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(Message started by: StegRock on Oct 24^th, 2005, 5:27pm)

Title: "between the 20's Weekly Bitchin' - Week 7"
Post by StegRock on Oct 24^th, 2005, 5:27pm

Here is another one of our fun participatory threads here "between the 20's". It is called "between the 20's Weekly Bitchin'". Here, you are to list the player(s) for the week, the one or ones who particularly dicked [smiley=dick.jpg] you in the ass [smiley=moon.gif] and were the key(s) to your loss(es). I really think we can have some fun venting our frustrations [smiley=frustrated.gif] here together! You can expect this to be up every Monday or Tuesday from here on out! HAVE FUN gettin' it ALL out, fellas!!!

Remember the complementary weekly thread to this one for the opposite circumstance: "between the 20's Fantasy MVP's of the Week"!!! Make sure to check it out!!!

Title: Re: "between the 20's Weekly Bitchin' - Week 7"
Post by BarnabyWilde on Oct 24^th, 2005, 8:50pm

In the GBRFL2, where basically my whole team is a bunch of underachieving pukes, I'd like to thank David Carr for sucking so consistently. Jamal Lewis too. Fags.

Title: Re: "between the 20's Weekly Bitchin' - Week 7"
Post by Callie on Oct 24^th, 2005, 10:55pm

All my leagues here and there: Thanks for nothing McCown, ARI WRs, and Antowain Smith. In the end, not a good FF week. You guys were supposed to be my FALL BACKS!

Title: Re: "between the 20's Weekly Bitchin' - Week 7"
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 26^th, 2005, 4:25pm

Hey McGahee, next time you put the league on notice about being the "best RB" in the league..........you'd better show them!!! Talk is cheap. >:( No really...I didn't want to be undefeated anymore!! [smiley=fireman.gif]

Title: Re: "between the 20's Weekly Bitchin' - Week 7"
Post by StegRock on Oct 26^th, 2005, 6:18pm

Yet another 0-3 week... :P So, I'll give some middle fingers up [smiley=flipoffangrily.gif] to, in the GBRFL, RB Cedric Benson, again, nice on the holdout, guy, and D/ST Green Bay Packers, nice fourth quarter, homos, and, in JYJ's "experts" league, RB Ricky Williams, I'm so glad I decided to roll my dice on you, WR Antonio Bryant and D/ST Miami Dolphins, I didn't think you guys let things like that happen in your backyard. [smiley=flipoffangrily.gif] Just God-awful!!! [smiley=nono.gif]

Title: Re: "between the 20's Weekly Bitchin' - Week 7"
Post by lumber2121 on Oct 27^th, 2005, 9:51am

When is Horn going to be healthy again? I cannot wait for him to be back. It will be nice to finally start Horn and Harrison each week.

How is my team 2-5? Look at my roster in my signature. Granted I made some trades to strengthen my team, but I did not pull off any huge deals that dramatically altered my squad.

I cannot complain too much. Last year I won the championship on the strength several lucky wins. It all balances out I guess. Hopefully the scales of luck will tip back in my favor during the second half of the season.

Title: Re: "between the 20's Weekly Bitchin' - Week 7"
Post by StegRock on Oct 27^th, 2005, 12:20pm

on 10/27/05 at 09:51:27, lumber2121 wrote:

I cannot complain too much. Last year I won the championship on the strength several lucky wins. It all balances out I guess. Hopefully the scales of luck will tip back in my favor during the second half of the season.

[offtopic]Goin' WAAAAAY off-topic here... But, based on what I quoted of lumberdude's post above, a quote within which is hidden a great fantasy football insight, I just can't help myself...

The key to fantasy football "greatness" is in sustained success. Yea, any given week, it cannot be denied that a certain (uncalculable) amount of luck is involved. Some fantasy footballers chalk it ALL up to that. That's WAAAAAY off, though (at least as much as I am off-topic here ;D). The idea behind fantasy football, that many too many miss, is to put yourself in the best position as possible week in and week out, i.e. constantly (look to) maximize your team's fantasy "value", so as to reduce the chances of being "UNlucky" vis-a-vis trying to maximize your chances of being "lucky", which is really "oxymoronic" if you think it through (you don't (actively try to) "maximize luck"; you maximize "your influence" and, thus, as a matter of fact, i.e. not intentionally, "minimize the factor of luck"). Fantasy footballers who chalk too much (or ALL) of it on luck are playing under a fatally flawed paradigm, which, above and beyond just the hapless "philosophy of (somehow relying on) luck", causes guys to be stubborn about their players, wanting to let things "run their course", and, consequently, not being active in free-agency or trading. If you've played fantasy football long enough, I know that you know at least one of these types of people, and they ALWAYS, INVARIABLY break out the "luck" card. ::) The thing, though, is that it is a cycle of madness: it is that "philosophy" that justifies their (in)action and then that (in)action justifies their "philosophy of (bad) luck", which in turn... yadda, yadda, yadda... and back again... and so on... One successful season here or there in a competitive league, mind you, doesn't necessarily indicate anything. BUT, a string of successful campaigns over a five or ten year period is truly illustrative of fantasy football savvy/skill, acquired through experience or somehow nature (which I don't dismiss as a possibility), (raw) effort, and passion for the hobby. Mind you, by "successful campaigns" I don't mean championships every year over the span. If that's the case, the league is likely not really competitive. Over a ten-year period, two or three championships along with four to six second-place finishes and nothing less than a fourth- or fifth-place finish or no final losing records during that time would be rockin' and it is in that light that "less than championship seasons", such as solid second- or third-place finishes in highly competitive leagues can be truly appreciated. Case in point, in the GBRFL I had a six-year run where I strung together four solid second-place finishes (1995-1998) between two championship bookends (1994-1999). I take pride (within myself) in those second-place finishes almost as much as the championships. What an enjoyable run it was! That's how you can come to appreciate the bigger picture... and not be consumed by the "small" (in both senses of the word) stuff. Interestingly enough, it is typical of "luck-driven" guys to appreciate "nothing less than a championship." Who'd a thunk it?[/offtopic]

Title: Re: "between the 20's Weekly Bitchin' - Week 7"
Post by Callie on Oct 27^th, 2005, 1:51pm

Or, in 5 words, "Chance favors the prepared mind." ;D

(Please note emoticon indicating "All in good fun.")

Title: Re: "between the 20's Weekly Bitchin' - Week 7"
Post by StegRock on Oct 27^th, 2005, 2:10pm

on 10/27/05 at 13:51:39, Callie wrote:

Or, in 5 words, "Chance favors the prepared mind."

[offtopic]Right... That's the essence of my point (but not at all the totality). The deeper, real psychological effect (on one's life approach) that remains unbeknownst is what takes further explication (above and beyond that which can be provided by a clever saying). The little ditty sayings like "Luck is the point at which hard work meets opportunity," don't really get people making the connections and understanding and realizing the real destructive nature such a paradigm has when applied to living life (or playing fantasy football, as a microcosmic example thereof). That amount of depth, consideration, understanding and realization doesn't come about by way of a (strung-together) saying (or two). So, while Callie's 5-word saying gets you off the right path, further analysis, like is explicated in my more lengthy post, is still required and will reveal the further depth of the matter.[/offtopic]

Title: Re: "between the 20's Weekly Bitchin' - Week 7"
Post by lumber2121 on Oct 28^th, 2005, 11:00am

[offtopic]Steg, I agree that luck is a small component of fantasy football, but it is definitely a part of it. Just as playing a poker hand very well increases your chances of winning, there always a chance the guy across the table will get a lucky card.

Anyone who says that they are not going to pay attention to what is going on and rely on luck will finish poorly almost every time. Those who prepare (like those who take time to write on this site) reduce the risk and take luck out of play as much as they can. You cannot eliminate chance.

This said, long run preformance is a great indicator of preparedness and prowess. This is why I am not giving up on this season, even at 2-5. My team is solid and I think I am more prepared that most of the owners in my league. I may be misguided. Time will tell.

In short, if I thought fantasy football was mostly luck, I would not be on this site.

Thanks for your response. It was very well thought out and it gave me an opportunity for me to clarify. It was a great digression.[/offtopic]