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(Message started by: BarnabyWilde on Jul 16^th, 2006, 3:16pm)

Title: 1st Let's get defensive "Huddle" Rankings thread
Post by BarnabyWilde on Jul 16^th, 2006, 3:16pm

Okay, guys, here is the thread to put comments on. This very first post is where I will maintain the cumulative running list of picks! Enjoy, and let's have fun with it!

IDP Let's Get Defensive Overall Mock List:
1. LB Jonathan Vilma - Jets
2. DE Julius Peppers - Panthers
3. SS Ed Reed - Ravens
4. LB Keith Bullock - Titans
5. LB Brian Urlacher - Bears
6. LB Mike Peterson - Jaguars
7. LB Terrell Suggs - Ravens
8. DE Jason Taylor - Dolphins
9. DE Michael Strahan - Giants
10. DE Osi Umenyiora - Giants
11. SS Adrian Wilson - Cardinals
12. LB Zach Thomas - Dolphins
13. LB London Fletcher - Bills
14. LB Donnie Edwards - Chargers
15. LB Lofa Tatupu - Seahawks
16. SS Roy Williams - Cowboys
17. SS Troy polamalu - Steelers
18. LB Will Witherspoon - Rams
19. LB Andra Davis - Browns
20. LB Ray Lewis - Ravens
21. SS Gabril wilson - Giants
22. LB Antonio Pierce - Giants
23. LB Demorrio Williams - Falcons
24. CB Ronde Barber - Buccaneers
25. LB Karlos Dansby - Cardinals
26. LB Shawn Merriman - Chargers
27. LB Lance Briggs - Bears
28. LB Shelton Quarles - Buccaneers
29. LB Derrick Johnson - Chiefs
30. SS Michael Lewis - Eagles
31. LB Nick Barnett - Packers
32. SS Erik Coleman - Jets
33. LB Jeremiah Trotter - Eagles
34. LB Odell Thurman - Bengals
35. LB Marcus Washington - Redskins
36. LB Lemar Marshall - Redskins
37. DE John Abraham - Falcons
38. LB Keith Brooking - Falcons
39. DE Robert Mathis - Colts
40. DE Dwight Freeney - Colts
41. SS Sean Taylor - Redskins
42. DE Aaron Schobel - Bills
43. LB Angelo Crowell - Bills
44. LB Dan Morgan - Panthers
45. LB Takeo Spikes - Bills
46. FS Jason Allen - Dolphins
47. SS Mike Brown - Bears
48. LB Cato June - Colts
49. DB Charles Tillman - Bears
50. LB Kirk Morrison - Raiders
51. LB Kawika Mitchell - Chiefs
52. LB James Farrior - Steelers
53. LB Ernie Sims - Lions
54. DE Mario Williams - Texans
55. LB AJ Hawk - Packers
56. DB Michael Bouleware - Seahawks
57. DE Will Smith - Saints
58. SS Madieu Williams - Bengals
59. DT Charles Grant - Saints
60. DB Bob Sanders - Colts
61. LB Tedy Bruschi - Patriots
62. LB Gary Brackett - Colts
63. LB Derrick Brooks - Buccaneers
64. DB Kerry Rhodes - Jets
65. DB Nate Clements - Bills
66. DB Brian Dawkins - Eagles

Title: Re: 1st Let's get defensive "Huddle" Rankings thre
Post by BarnabyWilde on Jul 16^th, 2006, 8:24pm

Umenyiora should be the 1st DE off the boards this year ahead of team mate Strahan, Peppers and Taylor.

Title: Re: 1st Let's get defensive "Huddle" Rankings thre
Post by BarnabyWilde on Jul 16^th, 2006, 9:05pm

Master list updated through pick 13!

Title: Re: 1st Let's get defensive "Huddle" Rankings thre
Post by junkyardjake on Jul 16^th, 2006, 9:38pm

Ooh, awesome idea Barnaby. [smiley=twothumbsup.gif]

btw, You may be right about Umenyiora being more valuable, but he will most likely be picked after Peppers and Taylor.

Title: Re: 1st Let's get defensive "Huddle" Rankings thre
Post by BarnabyWilde on Jul 17^th, 2006, 8:08am

on 07/16/06 at 21:38:36, junkyardjake wrote:

Ooh, awesome idea Barnaby. [smiley=twothumbsup.gif]

btw, You may be right about Umenyiora being more valuable, but he will most likely be picked after Peppers and Taylor.

Thanks JYJ! I thought you might like the idea of a top 100 defensive player list.

I think after this year Umenyiora will be the premiere defensive end in football. He is on the upside while Taylor and Strahan are winding down. Peppers is a close 2nd in my book. I guess we shall see!

Title: Re: 1st Let's get defensive "Huddle" Rankings thre
Post by Philly on Jul 17^th, 2006, 10:24am

Thanks for starting this BW. Sorry I jumped in late -- wasn't online at all on Sunday.

Anyway, I wonder how many people are considering the scoring system???

Based on 2005 stats, all but 3 of the top 25 IDP scorers (based on PPG to account for injuries) were LBs. Those three were safeties Adrian Wilson and Gibril Wilson, and a still-available corner. The best defensive lineman was the 35th highest scorer (and is still available), while guys like Strahan (#46), Taylor (#48), and Umenyiora (#52) are already selected.

Title: Re: 1st Let's get defensive "Huddle" Rankings thre
Post by junkyardjake on Jul 17^th, 2006, 10:48am

on 07/17/06 at 08:08:18, BarnabyWilde wrote:

I think after this year Umenyiora will be the premiere defensive end in football. He is on the upside while Taylor and Strahan are winding down. Peppers is a close 2nd in my book. I guess we shall see!

I can't disagree with that, he certainly has shown steady improvement, and now is entering what should be his most productive years. In any event, what a terrific 2nd round pick by the Giants.

Title: Re: 1st Let's get defensive "Huddle" Rankings thre
Post by junkyardjake on Jul 17^th, 2006, 10:54am

on 07/17/06 at 10:24:06, Philly wrote:

That's a great point, typically DE's and especially DT's are not worth as much as LB's and Safties in a conventional scoring system.

A conventional scoring system probably looks like:

Tackle - 2 points
Assist - 1 point
Sack - 4 points
INT - 4 points
FumRec - 2-4 points
TD - of course 6
Safety - whatever, as these are just fluke events

Arguably, forced fumbles should be accounted for, that will bump some of the better DEs.

Title: Re: 1st Let's get defensive "Huddle" Rankings thre
Post by junkyardjake on Jul 17^th, 2006, 1:07pm

Hey Philly,

I just noticed that Barnaby delineated the suggested scoring system on the other thread:

Tackle Solo (2)
Tackle Assist (0.5)
Sack (5)
Interception (5)
Fumble Force (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Pass Defended (0)
Block Kick (2)

Title: Re: 1st Let's get defensive "Huddle" Rankings thre
Post by BarnabyWilde on Jul 17^th, 2006, 1:08pm

Picks updated through #31!

Title: Re: 1st Let's get defensive "Huddle" Rankings thre
Post by BarnabyWilde on Jul 19^th, 2006, 5:25pm

Picks updated through #66!!

Title: Re: 1st Let's get defensive "Huddle" Rankings thre
Post by Tony_O on Jul 21^st, 2006, 12:12am

ed reed was already drafted

Title: Re: 1st Let's get defensive "Huddle" Rankings thre
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jul 21^st, 2006, 10:10am

I see that......I was wondering how he could've still been there. I looked like 3 times and never saw him. Gettin' old or blind, maybe even both! [smiley=gonecrazy.gif]

Title: Re: 1st Let's get defensive "Huddle" Rankings thre
Post by Callie on Jul 23^rd, 2006, 12:53pm

Quarles went at 28 and again at 94.