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(Message started by: StegRock on Aug 20th, 2006, 6:33pm)
Title: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comments
Post by StegRock on Aug 20th, 2006, 6:33pm
Okay, guys, here is the thread to put comments on.  This very first post is where I will maintain the cumulative running list of picks!  Enjoy, and let's have fun with it!

Second "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06
1. RB LaDainian Tomlinson - Chargers
2. RB Shaun Alexander - Seahawks
3. RB Larry Johnson - Chiefs
4. RB Clinton Portis - Redskins
5. RB Rudi Johnson - Bengals
6. RB Steven Jackson - Rams
7. RB Tiki Barber - Giants
8. RB Ronnie Brown - Dolphins
9. QB Peyton Manning - Colts
10. RB Edgerrin James - Cardinals
11. RB LaMont Jordan - Raiders
12. RB Carnell Williams - Buccaneers
13. WR Steve Smith - Panthers
14. WR Chad Johnson - Bengals
15. RB Willie Parker - Steelers
16. RB Willis McGahee - Bills
17. WR Terrell Owens - Cowboys
18. RB Brian Westbrook - Eagles
19. WR Larry Fitzgerald - Cardinals
20. WR Torry Holt - Rams
21. RB Chester Taylor - Vikings
22. RB Kevin Jones - Lions
23. RB Julius Jones - Cowboys
24. WR Marvin Harrison - Colts
25. WR Randy Moss - Raiders
26. TE Antonio Gates - Chargers
27. WR Chris Chambers - Dolphins
28. RB Cedric Benson - Bears
29. RB Reuben Droughns - Browns
30. RB Domanick Davis - Texans
31. RB DeShaun Foster - Panthers
32. QB Carson Palmer - Bengals
33. WR Anquan Boldin - Cardinals
34. RB Warrick Dunn - Falcons
35. RB Jamal Lewis - Ravens
36. QB Matt Hasselbeck - Seahawks
37. WR Hines Ward - Steelers
38. WR Plaxico Burress - Giants
39. QB Tom Brady - Patriots
40. WR Reggie Wayne - Colts
41. QB Jake Delhomme - Panthers
42. RB Corey Dillon - Patriots
43. WR Roy Williams - Lions
44. RB Frank Gore - 49ers
45. RB Fred Taylor - Jaguars
46. QB Eli Manning - Giants
47. QB Daunte Culpepper - Dolphins
48. QB Drew Bledsoe - Cowboys
49. QB Marc Bulger - Rams
50. RB Reggie Bush - Saints
51. WR Andre Johnson - Texans
52. QB Donovan McNabb - Eagles
53. WR Santana Moss - Redskins
54. WR Joey Galloway - Buccaneers
55. QB Kurt Warner - Cardinals
56. WR Derrick Mason - Titans
57. TE Tony Gonzalez - Chiefs
58. QB Jake Plummer - Broncos
59. RB Tatum Bell - Broncos
60. TE Jeremy Shockey - Giants
61. WR Donald Driver - Packers
62. RB Mike Bell - Broncos
63. WR Darrell Jackson - Seahawks
64. RB Ahman Green - Packers
65. TE Todd Heap - Ravens
66. WR Lee Evans - Bills
67. WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh - Bengals
68. QB Trent Green - Chiefs
69. WR Terry Glenn - Cowboys
70. WR Joe Horn - Saints
71. WR Javon Walker - Broncos
72. QB Michael Vick - Falcons
73. RB Thomas Jones - Bears
74. RB Dominic Rhodes - Colts
75. RB Deuce McAllister - Saints
76. WR Matt Jones - Jaguars
77. WR Rod Smith - Broncos
78. WR Drew Bennett - Titans
79. TE Alge Crumpler - Falcons
80. WR Laveranues Coles - Jets
81. WR Reggie Brown - Eagles
82. QB Ben Roethlisberger - Steelers
83. QB Steve McNair - Ravens
84. TE Chris Cooley - Redskins
85. QB Byron Leftwich - Jaguars
86. TE Jason Witten - Cowboys
87. RB Chris Brown - Titans
88. WR Eddie Kennison - Chiefs
89. QB Chris Simms - Buccaneers
90. WR Ernest Wilford - Jaguars
91. WR Keyshawn Johnson - Panthers
92. TE Randy McMichael - Dolphins
93. WR Donte Stallworth - Eagles
94. QB Brad Johnson - Vikings
95. TE Dallas Clark - Colts
96. QB David Carr - Texans
97. QB Aaron Brooks - Raiders
98. WR Nate Burleson - Seahawks
99. WR Mark Clayton - Ravens
100. TE Ben Watson - Patriots
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by DirkDiggler on Aug 20th, 2006, 7:56pm
Clearly no surprise with the first 3 picks.   Those 3 could go in any order!!!

With #4 I know the trendy pick is to NOT take Clinton Portis.  However, word is that he should be back by the season start with his shoulder being ok.  There is no longer as much panic in the DC area.  Besides, he is too good with Saunders at the helm not to take.  (and besides, I just can't take Tiki for some unknown personal bias)
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Aug 20th, 2006, 8:26pm
I don't like the Portis pick, Stevo, not at #4...  I don't care what the "current hype" is...  He's too risky and it's too early.  But,... hey,... that's what you think, and you are NOT a fantasy football ignoramus.  Let's press on kiddies... [smiley=dancin.gif]
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by Callie on Aug 20th, 2006, 8:35pm
Al Saunders did a lot with Holmes (and Johnson).  Aside from the injury, I think Portis is better than good here.  So far, everything we hear is that Portis will be good for Week 1.
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by Takamine305 on Aug 20th, 2006, 10:22pm
I think the Portis was early as well.  There are some backs that will put up Portis numbers that didn't have a dislocated shoulder in the preseason.  Those things "can" be a problem forever.....much less an entire season.  It's tough to ignore that risk with that high of a pick.

I'm putting up S. Jackson at #6.  What can I say, I think he is going to be a Fantasy Football Stud this year.  
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by Philly on Aug 21st, 2006, 12:08am
I have no problem with the Portis pick. A separated shoulder is pretty low on the list of scary injuries. I remember Emmitt Smith separating his shoulder during a game against the Eagles earlyish in his career. He not only continued playing with the injury, he played very well, and there were no lingering effects from that injury (obviously).

As for my pick at #11... I don't know why everyone is so down on Jordan. He's a workhorse back who also catches the ball very well. He'll get lots of work in this offensive system and, with the receivers the Raiders have, the DBs can't cheat the box as much. I think he's primed for a very big season.
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by Callie on Aug 21st, 2006, 12:10am

on 08/21/06 at 00:08:24, Philly wrote:
As for my pick at #11... I don't know why everyone is so down on Jordan. He's a workhorse back who also catches the ball very well. He'll get lots of work in this offensive system and, with the receivers the Raiders have, the DBs can't cheat the box as much. I think he's primed for a very big season.


The Raiders have also made it very clear that they are going to pump up the running game this season.  And the O-line is going to improve and give him holes.
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Aug 21st, 2006, 12:20am

on 08/21/06 at 00:08:24, Philly wrote:
I have no problem with the Portis pick. A separated shoulder is pretty low on the list of scary injuries. I remember Emmitt Smith separating his shoulder during a game against the Eagles earlyish in his career. He not only continued playing with the injury, he played very well, and there were no lingering effects from that injury (obviously).


For every Emmitt Smith, there are probably at least a half dozen guys who, I think, would beg to differ.  As an Eagle's fan, I suppose Emmitt's injury there comes to mind first.  But, for me, I immediately think of Charles Rogers and Curtis Conway, two guys who (have) had their careers ruined by separated shoulders.  Ultimately, though, I'm not going to go that far.  Clinton Portis is still in my Top 12-15.  I'm just taking the middle road.  I'm not going to be "Emmitt Smith" optimistic nor "Curtis Conway/Charles Rogers" pessimistic.
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by DirkDiggler on Aug 21st, 2006, 5:05pm

on 08/21/06 at 00:20:42, StegRock wrote:
For every Emmitt Smith, there are probably at least a half dozen guys who, I think, would beg to differ.  As an Eagle's fan, I suppose Emmitt's injury there comes to mind first.  But, for me, I immediately think of Charles Rogers and Curtis Conway, two guys who (have) had their careers ruined by separated shoulders.  Ultimately, though, I'm not going to go that far.  Clinton Portis is still in my Top 12-15.  I'm just taking the middle road.  I'm not going to be "Emmitt Smith" optimistic nor "Curtis Conway/Charles Rogers" pessimistic.


WOW....you dropped what was clearly the #4 back before a minor injury all the way down to 12-15?  It is interesting that people vary so much on him.....  I STILL have him #4.

Alas, I remember people last year dropped Shaun Alexander on their lists.......they lived to regret that decision......
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by Larsen89 on Aug 21st, 2006, 6:55pm
I think Portis has taken a tremendous hit (fantasy wise) with his injury.  I had him at #4 , I'm in the agreement that it is WAY to risky now for Portis at #4 overall,  I have him slid all the way down to 8th or 9th overall RB now.  :-/
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by Philly on Aug 21st, 2006, 9:54pm
I'm OK with Portis at #4.  But if I was picking #4, I might go with a Jordan or Jackson instead. If I had the #6 or #7 pick and Jordan/Jackson were gone, then I would not hesitate to grab Portis.  So he's slipped very slightly in my book, although it has as much to do with my love of Jackson and Jordan as anything else.
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by Philly on Aug 21st, 2006, 9:55pm
Antonio Gates already!  I love playing FF with people who draft a TE before the 4th or 5th round because they tend to screw up their entire drafts taking a TE so early.
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Aug 21st, 2006, 10:43pm
Regarding Portis,... all I'm sayin' is this is where I am...  From "The REAL Feed":

Fantasy update: Hedge your Betts (http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/2006/08/ladell-betts-fantasy210806.html)
NFL News: RealFootball365.com (21.08.2006 13:30)
Despite suffering a partially dislocated shoulder last weekend, Washington Redskins running back Clinton Portis is still on most folks' fantasy football top 10 list. The topic of Portis' draft value has already been pondered countless times. However, what hasn't received a lot of attention is th...
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Aug 21st, 2006, 11:10pm
Master list up in the initial post of this thread has been updated through the Top 30.
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by MordecaiCourage on Aug 21st, 2006, 11:21pm
Philly..I like your Benson pick there but I'd still like to hear your take on him over Jones
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by Philly on Aug 21st, 2006, 11:37pm

on 08/21/06 at 23:21:34, MordecaiCourage wrote:
Philly..I like your Benson pick there but I'd still like to hear your take on him over Jones


I think Benson will be the starter (he was an early first rounder, and THAT does carry weight, especially with the front office) and he's a workhorse type of back - the type that fits the Bears to a tee. Teams with strong defenses excel when they have a ground control (clock-eating) offense. Thomas Jones is certainly capable (last year proved that) and can succeed in this offense, but he's not endearing himself to the right people and I think, ultimately, Lovie will be a one-back kinda guy as much as he can be.
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Aug 23rd, 2006, 7:54pm
What's up with some of you guys here?  What are yous afraid to show your cards here as draft times roll around?  Do only a couple of us have balls [smiley=dick.jpg] here???  I show my cards and whip ass... [smiley=bawling.gif][smiley=mywhippinboy.gif] Tony and Jeff are religiously participating...  That's the real deal... [smiley=yes.gif]
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by Takamine305 on Aug 23rd, 2006, 9:39pm

on 08/21/06 at 21:55:54, Philly wrote:
Antonio Gates already!  I love playing FF with people who draft a TE before the 4th or 5th round because they tend to screw up their entire drafts taking a TE so early.


Are you kdding me.  Gates will NOT screw up an entire draft by any means.
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by Tony_O on Aug 23rd, 2006, 11:30pm
Jeff, is not saying Gates isn't any good.....He is saying that typically when owners draft a tight end that early, they tend to let the draft "get away from them" and  they draft a weaker team overall. (*DISCLAIMER* this is my opinion, anything I said doesn't actually represent what Jeff thinks) ;)
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by cwhams on Aug 24th, 2006, 8:14am
If you think (Gates) has a similar season to last year...it is a very good pick...if you think he will be like 100% of all other TE's then it was not so great a pick.

Last years #'s placed him probably in or near the top 10 receiving category: 1,101 yards and 10 TD's is very good for any receiver and great for a TE.
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Aug 24th, 2006, 10:05am
Master list in initial post updated through current pick #58. [smiley=tired.gif]
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by Philly on Aug 24th, 2006, 10:07am

on 08/23/06 at 23:30:41, Tony_O wrote:
Jeff, is not saying Gates isn't any good.....He is saying that typically when owners draft a tight end that early, they tend to let the draft "get away from them" and  they draft a weaker team overall. (*DISCLAIMER* this is my opinion, anything I said doesn't actually represent what Jeff thinks) ;)



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Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by Callie on Aug 25th, 2006, 12:49pm
Sorry I wasn't around for a bit there, guys.  Couldn't be helped.

(Things get even worse in the first half of September!)
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by cwhams on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:13pm

on 08/23/06 at 23:30:41, Tony_O wrote:
typically when owners draft a tight end that early, they tend to let the draft "get away from them"  ;)


What Tack is saying is that Gates is not a typical TE, therefore the analogy does not hold true for this atypical TE.  Depending on how long he was going to have to wait for his next pick, probably a good pick.
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by Takamine305 on Aug 30th, 2006, 10:29pm
Morency could be a good pick.  From what I have read and seen around the news is that Wali Lundy has already been named the starter should DD be unable to go.  

Anyone else able to back this up?!?!?
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by Callie on Aug 30th, 2006, 10:51pm
Well, Steg had a good thought over in the Red Zone/Broncos Off-Season Report:


on 08/30/06 at 05:25:58, StegRock wrote:
 But, with Domanick Davis's injury sitch, don't be surprised if whoever it is that gets cut ends up being the man in Houston, and, actually, don't be totally surprised if that ends up being Tatum Bell by way of a trade.


Or Staley, or whoever else.....

Edit:  Sorry, I should have added that Davis can't go on the PUP list, may go on IR, and the team now says he will not be cut.  So why not grab a good RB and cut someone else?
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by Oakland4life on Aug 30th, 2006, 11:59pm

Quote:
So why not grab a good RB and cut someone else?


Because they really have two GOOD backs in W. Lundi and V. Morency.  I picked up Lundi off the wire two weeks ago after I saw the performance he gave against Kansas City (perks of covering a team on the gridiron ;D )  Dominick isn't done for the season.  He may be out for 8-12 weeks or so, (pending the outcome of the surgery) but he is still a good back.

Lundi and Morency have showed that they BOTH can step up and make big plays. And, once Dominick gets healthy again, THEN they will use him as trade bait.

It makes no sense to cut him, they have invested a lot in Davis.  And the reason for not picking Reggie Bush goes a lot deeper than just needing a DE really really bad.  They have great running backs, and hello?? they now have Gary Kubiak, so why screw up a good thing by bringing in somebody else (like what they are doing in New York right now)

Just my 2 bits.

O4L
Title: Re: 2nd "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '06 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Sep 1st, 2006, 4:07am
Master list in initial post of this thread has been updated through the "Top 100".  (Note:  We did have a mistake in the numbering.  The last pick posted by O4l was actually pick 101.)  I'm guessing we're done with this...  It was getting late in the "offseason"...  I think a "Top 100" is all we had in us this time around...  Anyway, enjoy this extra rankings tool!!!


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