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(Message started by: StegRock on Jun 22nd, 2008, 4:28am)
Title: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comments
Post by StegRock on Jun 22nd, 2008, 4:28am
Okay, guys, here is the thread to put comments on.  This very first post is where I will maintain the cumulative running list of picks!  Enjoy, and let's have fun with it!

First "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08
1. RB Adrian Peterson - Vikings
2. RB LaDainain Tomlinson - Chargers
3. RB Steven Jackson - Rams
4. RB Joseph Addai - Colts
5. RB Brian Westbrook - Eagles
6. QB Tom Brady - Patriots
7. QB Peyton Manning - Colts
8. WR Randy Moss - Patriots
9. RB Frank Gore - 49ers
10. RB Marion Barber - Cowboys
11. RB Ryan Grant - Packers
12. RB Clinton Portis - Redskins
13.  RB Marshawn Lynch - Bills
14. QB Tony Romo -  Cowboys
15. WR Terrell Owens - Cowboys
16. RB Larry Johnson - Chiefs
17. WR Reggie Wayne - Colts
18. RB Willis McGahee - Ravens
19. WR T. J. Houshmandzadeh - Bengals
20. WR Braylon Edwards - Browns
21. RB Reggie Bush - Saints
22. RB Maurice Jones-Drew - Jaguars
23. WR Andre Johnson - Texans
24. WR Marques Colston - Saints
25. WR Larry Fitzgerald - Cardinals
26. RB Willie Parker - Steelers
27. RB Jamal Lewis - Browns
28. QB Drew Brees - Saints
29. QB Derek Anderson - Browns
30. RB Brandon Jacobs - Giants
31. QB Carson Palmer - Bengals
32. RB Laurence Maroney - Patriots
33. WR Steve Smith - Panthers
34. QB Ben Roethlisberger - Steelers
35. WR Chad Johnson - Bengals
36. WR Torry Holt - Rams
37. TE Antonio Gates - Chargers
38. RB Michael Turner - Falcons
39. RB Selvin Young - Broncos
40. TE Jason Witten - Cowboys
41. RB Ronnie Brown - Dolphins
42. WR Plaxico Burress - Giants
43. RB LenDale White - Titans
44. RB Rudi Johnson - Bengals
45. WR Wes Welker - Patriots
46. RB Thomas Jones - Jets
47. RB Darren McFadden - Raiders
48. WR Anquan Boldin - Cardinals
49. WR Roy Williams - Lions
50. TE Kellen Winslow - Browns
51. RB Julius Jones - Seahawks
52. RB Fred Taylor - Jaguars
53. WR Brandon Marshall - Broncos
54. RB Matt Forte - Bears
55. QB Marc Bulger - Rams
56. RB Earnest Graham - Buccaneers
57. WR Santonio Holmes - Steelers
58. TE Tony Gonzalez - Chiefs
59. QB Matt Hasselbeck - Seahawks
60. WR Calvin Johnson - Lions
61. QB Donovan McNabb - Eagles
62. RB Edgerrin James - Cardinals
63. WR Dwayne Bowe - Chiefs
64. WR Greg Jennings - Packers
65. RB Jonathan Stewart - Panthers
66. RB Deuce McAllister - Saints
67. WR Lee Evans - Bills
68. WR Donald Driver - Packers
69. QB Eli Manning - Giants
70. QB Jay Cutler - Broncos
71. TE Dallas Clark - Colts
72. WR Chris Chambers - Chargers
73. WR Kevin Curtis - Eagles
74. D/ST San Diego Chargers
75. WR Joey Gallloway - Buccaneers
76. RB Kevin Smith - Lions
77. WR Hines Ward - Steelers
78. WR Anthony Gonzalez - Colts
79. QB David Garrard - Jaguars
80. WR Laveranues Coles - Jets
81. RB Ahman Green - Texans
82. WR Donté Stallworth - Browns
83. WR Bernard Berrian - Vikings
84. QB Jake Delhomme - Panthers
85. WR Javon Walker - Raiders
86. D/ST Minnesota Vikings
87. TE Vernon Davis - 49ers
88. QB Vince Young - Titans
89. TE Chris Cooley - Redskins
90. D/ST Dallas Cowboys
91. RB Chris Brown - Texans
92. WR Isaac Bruce - 49ers
93. WR Bobby Engram - Seahawks
94. TE Heath Miller - Steelers
95. D/ST Jacksonville Jaguars
96. QB Matt Schaub - Texans
97. RB Chester Taylor - Vikings
98. WR Marvin Harrison - Colts
99. RB Felix Jones - Cowboys
100. WR Ted Ginn - Dolphins
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jun 22nd, 2008, 2:53pm
SJax at the 3 spot...toss up between him and Westbrook. Brady and Addai were thought of as well.
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2008, 4:38pm
Regarding this pick,...


on 06/23/08 at 14:58:28, StegRock wrote:
16. RB Larry Johnson - Chiefs


... I just couldn't see him dropping any farther, and, mind you, I'm not a Larry Johnson fan at all.  I just kind of reflected back on Curtis Martin's years under Herm Edwards.  It would look like Martin was done one year, and then he'd win the rushing title the next, and it cannot be said that Johnson's tread is more worn than Martin's was.

Incidentally, though, the guy I would have taken next would have been...


on 06/23/08 at 16:11:47, Larsen89 wrote:
17. WR Reggie Wayne - Colts


;D

...

Also, the master rankings list in the initial post of this thread has been brought up-to-date. [smiley=builder.gif]
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by Callie on Jun 23rd, 2008, 8:35pm
In terms of ADP, I probably took Reggie Bush a few slots earlier than I could have gotten him.  But by the time people start drafting more, he should go higher.  The O-Line is good, and he has hands in a passing game.

Edit to Add:  I see Double D took MJD next.  That's the guy I would have taken next.
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 23rd, 2008, 8:44pm
WOW, Reggie Bush already?  Over Maurice Jones Drew, Ernest Graham, Rudi Johnson, heck, even Ronnie Brown?

What does your crystal ball hold Callie?  You think the Saints are going to give him the ball more? I just do not know what the hell is going to happen in N.O. this year.  If I was to guess, think they are going to have a massive RBBC.  Sadly, Pierre Thomas is even going to take carries from Bush.

Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by Larsen89 on Jun 23rd, 2008, 9:24pm
I would have to agree, I've done about a half dozen mock drafts over on sportsline and Mr. Bush NEVER went before the 4th or 5th round.... Think people are a little leary of his durability issues.
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by Callie on Jun 23rd, 2008, 10:05pm

on 06/23/08 at 20:44:06, DirkDiggler wrote:
WOW, Reggie Bush already?  Over Maurice Jones Drew, Ernest Graham, Rudi Johnson, heck, even Ronnie Brown?

What does your crystal ball hold Callie?  You think the Saints are going to give him the ball more? I just do not know what the hell is going to happen in N.O. this year.  If I was to guess, think they are going to have a massive RBBC.  Sadly, Pierre Thomas is even going to take carries from Bush.


...or he could be a Westbrook.  Yeah, I think they are going to give him the ball more, ground and/or air.  He's slimmer and through his second year nonsense.  They have the line, they want to pass, and even if he is risk/reward he should be fine.  Buy low.
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Jun 24th, 2008, 4:06am
First off, the master rankings list in the initial post of this thread have been updated. [smiley=builder.gif]

Now, for some convo...

I think the following guys went too high:  Marion Barber by 2 to 10 spots, Marshawn Lynch by a bunch of spots (I don't know if I'd have taken him still; probably soon), Tony Romo by 3 to 7 spots, Reggie Bush by 3 to 5 spots.

I think the following guys went too low (thus far):  Reggie Wayne by maybe 2 to 4 spots, Andre Johnson, Marques Colston and Larry Fitzgerald by 2 or 3 spots.

I am surprised that no one commented on my pick of Houshmandzadeh... and LJ, the latter if for no other reason than just conversation. [smiley=shrug.gif]
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jun 24th, 2008, 2:02pm

on 06/24/08 at 04:06:10, StegRock wrote:
I think the following guys went too high:  Marion Barber by 2 to 10 spots,  


Comparison...you be the judge

Addai taken 4th...302 touches just over 1500 yards , 15 TD's

Gore taken 9th....313 touches just over 1500 yards , 6 TD's

Barber taken 10th....240 touches over 1200 yards , 12 TD's

With a departed Jones in Dallas..I would suspect MBIII to receive more touches and I think most analysts would agree with that, I assume you would agree too. Let's just say for arguements sake his total touches jump by 50 this season. His average total yards per game was around 80 I believe. 50 touches should equal to the equivalent of 2-3 games, give or take a few touches. That adds around 200 yards to his total and minimumally 2-4 TD's...we will split that and call it 3.

New math on MBII ..... 290 touches 1400 yards , 15 TD's....Yes I'd take him at 10th overall with those numbers!! Certainly before all the others who were picked after him.
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jun 24th, 2008, 3:41pm

on 06/24/08 at 04:06:10, StegRock wrote:
I am surprised that no one commented on my pick of Houshmandzadeh... and LJ, the latter if for no other reason than just conversation. [smiley=shrug.gif]


LJ at 16 is potentially the steal of the draft. If he can stay healthy and return to the LJ we all remember, then people will be wondering how he could have slipped past the Top 5!! As far as Housh goes, there are a few WR's that I would take over him that didn't go. Johnson, Fitzgerald, Edwards for sure...maybe even Colsten.
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by Larsen89 on Jun 24th, 2008, 9:13pm
Marshawn Lynch:

For the sake of convo, as mentioned above.... and all legal stuff thrown out and not taken into consideration which I believe will all be taken care of by the time the season starts, as of now he's not suspended for any games, herefore the rationale.....

IMO, #13 is to low for Lynch to go... in 13 games he accumlates 1,115 yds on the ground with 7 tds, now tack on 3 more games.  He was not a factor in the passing game w/only 18 catches for 184....  This WILL drastically change!!!!!  Marshawn is a bar none a Pick #6-#9... I am on the Lynch wagon.[smiley=broncofan.gif] and I am going to sit back and watch  [smiley=popcorn.gif] him carry my backfield. :)

True I did not take him at #6, this is a rankings mock, and it been a Mock for my team, I would have knocked on Lynch's door.
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by Larsen89 on Jun 24th, 2008, 9:16pm

on 06/24/08 at 14:02:42, MordecaiCourage wrote:
Comparison...you be the judge

Addai taken 4th...302 touches just over 1500 yards , 15 TD's

Gore taken 9th....313 touches just over 1500 yards , 6 TD's

Barber taken 10th....240 touches over 1200 yards , 12 TD's

With a departed Jones in Dallas..I would suspect MBIII to receive more touches and I think most analysts would agree with that, I assume you would agree too. Let's just say for arguements sake his total touches jump by 50 this season. His average total yards per game was around 80 I believe. 50 touches should equal to the equivalent of 2-3 games, give or take a few touches. That adds around 200 yards to his total and minimumally 2-4 TD's...we will split that and call it 3.

New math on MBII ..... 290 touches 1400 yards , 15 TD's....Yes I'd take him at 10th overall with those numbers!! Certainly before all the others who were picked after him.


You have to love those Minnesota boys, don't you Kenny??? [smiley=fireman.gif]
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jun 25th, 2008, 12:09am

on 06/24/08 at 21:16:48, Larsen89 wrote:
You have to love those Minnesota boys, don't you Kenny??? [smiley=fireman.gif]


Well I guess these last couple years in Texas has him finally going in the right direction. Once he was able to knock the "Loser" Minnesota mentality off of himself and figure out how things are done Tejas-style...he's allright now!!
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jun 25th, 2008, 12:35am

on 06/24/08 at 21:13:25, Larsen89 wrote:
Marshawn Lynch:


Marshawn is a bar none a Pick #6-#9...


Have to slightly disagree with my old work buddy here. Troubles aside, I think Lynch was taken about right. 6-8 is pushing it a little bit, 9 sounds better, 10-13 sounds correct to me. I think in a regular draft, if for some reason Brady, Manning, and/or Moss were not taken and the 1st round run was on RB's, then you'd have to take him top 10.
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jun 25th, 2008, 12:45am
Yuck!!!!!! So that's how it feels to be the first one in a draft to take a TE when there are still a few solid RB and WR picks left! Never in my life have I been that guy until now. I usually don't touch them until around the 6th round, well after the TE run is over. End up with a 3rd tier guy usually. It was terribly difficult chosing between Gates and Witten here. I actually had Witten typed in but re-thought the pick and changed it.
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Jun 25th, 2008, 4:11am
Master rankings list in initial posted updated... [smiley=steg.gif]
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Jun 25th, 2008, 10:28pm

on 06/23/08 at 10:03:31, Larsen89 wrote:
13.  RB Marshawn Lynch - Bills



on 06/25/08 at 21:30:46, StegRock wrote:
Oh, brother... [smiley=gimmeabreak.gif] Is Brandon Marshall self-destructing or what?  From "The REAL Feed":

NFL looking into Bronco's arrest in Atlanta (http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/NFL/2008/06/25/5985241-ap.html)
SLAM! Sports NFL (25.06.2008 20:55)
The NFL is looking into the March 6 arrest of Denver Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall on a misdemeanour battery charge for allegedly hitting his girlfriend.



on 06/25/08 at 21:44:09, Larsen89 wrote:
53. WR Brandon Marshall - Broncos


Larsman is drafting Team Thug here... ;)
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by Callie on Jun 26th, 2008, 12:01am

on 06/25/08 at 22:28:12, StegRock wrote:
Larsman is drafting Team Thug here... ;)


[smiley=policeman.gif]

[smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif]
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jun 26th, 2008, 4:59pm
Earnest Graham at 56th...I forgot about him as I suppose many have. I, for one, think he would be a steal here!!
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Jun 28th, 2008, 10:44pm
Could someone throw a friggin' pick up here already??? [smiley=impatient.gif]
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Jun 28th, 2008, 10:55pm
Thanks, MC.

[smiley=steg.gif] The Master rankings list in the initial post of this thread has been brought up-to-the-moment!!! [smiley=builder.gif]
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jun 28th, 2008, 10:58pm

on 06/28/08 at 22:55:30, StegRock wrote:
Thanks, MC.

[smiley=steg.gif] The Master rankings list in the initial post of this thread has been brought up-to-the-moment!!! [smiley=builder.gif]


I've been waiting too...I did not want to go so soon. I considered Deuce there instead of Stewart, so it was cool to see you place him there.
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Jun 28th, 2008, 11:03pm

on 06/28/08 at 22:58:29, MordecaiCourage wrote:
I've been waiting too...


I understand you were probably doing so to be polite to other participants... because you didn't need to.  I say, at this point, we just got to rip through this... so as it doesn't go on too long and become disjointed... and so we can get on with another one... or two... or three before the season starts.  That's the kind of energy this site is SO in NEED of! [smiley=yes.gif]
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Jun 30th, 2008, 4:39pm
A few quick hits...

First, our Master Rankings list in the initial post of this thread has been updated through the latest pick. [smiley=builder.gif]

Second, let's get this sucker to 100 without having to move away from the regular rule of waiting for two picks before picking again!!! [smiley=ontheclock.gif]

Third, I want to THANK everybody who's participated this year for being so good with the formatting; in my copying-and-pasting on over to the master list, it's been better than ever. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Jun 30th, 2008, 5:10pm
Let's let MC's pick #76 stand,... but what I said was...


on 06/30/08 at 16:39:18, StegRock wrote:
Second, let's get this sucker to 100 without having to move away from the regular rule of waiting for two picks before picking again!!! [smiley=ontheclock.gif]


... let's try NOT to break the rule while getting this thing to 100!!!
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Jun 30th, 2008, 5:45pm
MC, I've disallowed your last pick (of Garrard)...  You are NOW in a position to make a selection...
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jun 30th, 2008, 5:47pm

on 06/30/08 at 17:45:47, StegRock wrote:
MC, I've disallowed your last pick (of Garrard)...  You are NOW in a position to make a selection...



[smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Jun 30th, 2008, 6:23pm

on 06/30/08 at 17:44:03, StegRock wrote:
78. WR Anthony Gonzalez - Colts


Gonzalez before Harrison!!! :o And, with no second thoughts!!!

In fact, I would have selected Gonzalez over Ward, who was taken a slot before, and the rubber pretty much meets the road on that statement as I have them both on my GBRFL team, and, come cut-down time, I would... and may actually be in a position to have to keep Gonzalez (among others) over Ward,... :-/ a player I really love, mind you. [smiley=hearteyes.gif]
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jun 30th, 2008, 6:35pm

on 06/30/08 at 18:23:00, StegRock wrote:
Gonzalez before Harrison!!! :o And, with no second thoughts!!!

In fact, I would have selected Gonzalez over Ward, who was taken a slot before, and the rubber pretty much meets the road on that statement as I have them both on my GBRFL team, and, come cut-down time, I would... and may actually be in a position to have to keep Gonzalez (among others) over Ward,... :-/ a player I really love, mind you. [smiley=hearteyes.gif]


I actually like Dallas Clark's chances to improve on a great season even more than Gonzo having a breakout season. Actually, if Harrison ends up being done or "semi" done then I like both guys chances at having a fruitful year.
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by Larsen89 on Jul 1st, 2008, 8:45am
I believe we skipped a number, #82?  Therefore I edited my pick and made it number #83, philly or a moderator needs to change Philly's pick (Stallworth) to #82.
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by Larsen89 on Jul 1st, 2008, 11:39am
and,......Bowe was picked at #63, can't be picked at #84. :(
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Jul 1st, 2008, 4:59pm

on 07/01/08 at 11:39:57, Larsen89 wrote:
and,......Bowe was picked at #63, can't be picked at #84. :(


Second Bowe pick removed...
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by DirkDiggler on Jul 1st, 2008, 5:42pm

on 07/01/08 at 16:59:45, StegRock wrote:
Second Bowe pick removed...


Sorry about that.  I did a search and he did not come up.....  I liked his value at 84!!
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by Callie on Jul 1st, 2008, 10:08pm
Finally got back in here!

Vernon Davis could be amazing in PPR leagues and with a Martz offense.
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jul 2nd, 2008, 3:02pm
96 picks and counting...I'm thinking that Marvin Harrison should have been taken at least by the 80th pick or so....there is a chance at a super steal if he even plays half a season!
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by Tony_O on Jul 2nd, 2008, 7:37pm
Harrison at 98, you happy MC? ;D
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by Callie on Jul 2nd, 2008, 11:50pm

on 07/02/08 at 19:37:36, Tony_O wrote:
Harrison at 98, you happy MC? ;D


Wow.  Harrison at 98.  And it actually fits.
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Jul 3rd, 2008, 12:02am
I say we call it a day with this one,... and rev up for another.

Also, assuming it was intentional, thanks for letting the old captain have the last pick. :)
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jul 3rd, 2008, 11:59am
Overall I'd say that this thing was fairly accurate. There were a few stretches, including some from myself. Possible steals of the draft in my opinion......Larry Johnson at 16; Earnest Graham at 56; Marvin Harrison at 98!!!
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by Larsen89 on Jul 3rd, 2008, 5:42pm
My analysis (imo of course), now I am referring to Steg's rankings, and not going off of the draft format, I have no idea who picked who, I'll look back at that later, just so I don't offend anyone.  We'll break it down into rounds and try to keep it to 2-3 players per round.

Rd 1.
1. RB Adrian Peterson - Vikings
2. RB LaDainain Tomlinson - Chargers
3. RB Steven Jackson - Rams
4. RB Joseph Addai - Colts
5. RB Brian Westbrook - Eagles
6. QB Tom Brady - Patriots
7. QB Peyton Manning - Colts
8. WR Randy Moss - Patriots
9. RB Frank Gore - 49ers
10. RB Marion Barber - Cowboys
11. RB Ryan Grant - Packers
12. RB Clinton Portis - Redskins

[/i]Loved the first round, however I am not sold on Grant, I'd easily would have bounced him out of the 1st rd, easily could move Lynch into his spot, just don't believe Grant is worthy of a 1st round pick, late 2nd to me.  Otherwise I can't argue with the 1st round, even Westbroook at #5 I'd easily take Jackson-Addai over him.[i]

2nd Rd
13.  RB Marshawn Lynch - Bills
14. QB Tony Romo -  Cowboys
15. WR Terrell Owens - Cowboys
16. RB Larry Johnson - Chiefs
17. WR Reggie Wayne - Colts
18. RB Willis McGahee - Ravens
19. WR T. J. Houshmandzadeh - Bengals
20. WR Braylon Edwards - Browns
21. RB Reggie Bush - Saints
22. RB Maurice Jones-Drew - Jaguars
23. WR Andre Johnson - Texans
24. WR Marques Colston - Saints

[/i]Great 2nd round as well, the only reach I see is Bush, out of the dozen + mocks I've done, NEVER seen him go before the late 3rd, usually he's available 4th sometimes 5th rds.  Otherwise the only things I see is those last 4 WR's, I have them ranked Edwards, Colston, Housh, Johnson... but it's all personnal preference, this is mine.[i]

3rd Rd.
25. WR Larry Fitzgerald - Cardinals
26. RB Willie Parker - Steelers
27. RB Jamal Lewis - Browns
28. QB Drew Brees - Saints
29. QB Derek Anderson - Browns
30. RB Brandon Jacobs - Giants
31. QB Carson Palmer - Bengals
32. RB Laurence Maroney - Patriots
33. WR Steve Smith - Panthers
34. QB Ben Roethlisberger - Steelers
35. WR Chad Johnson - Bengals
36. WR Torry Holt - Rams

[/i]The 4 QB's selected here are all good choices, I've seen Brees sneak into the end of the 2nd, I liked the Palmer pick, alot of people are shying away from Parker so maybe a little early on him, seen him available in the 4th rd, and Jacobs, not a fan believe there are better options, easily could slide him into the bottom of the 3rd, but this not being teams, it's hard to know what that owner would be thinking, maybe he would need him, still would slide him down.[i]

4th Rd
37. TE Antonio Gates - Chargers
38. RB Michael Turner - Falcons
39. RB Selvin Young - Broncos
40. TE Jason Witten - Cowboys
41. RB Ronnie Brown - Dolphins
42. WR Plaxico Burress - Giants
43. RB LenDale White - Titans
44. RB Rudi Johnson - Bengals
45. WR Wes Welker - Patriots
46. RB Thomas Jones - Jets
47. RB Darren McFadden - Raiders
48. WR Anquan Boldin - Cardinals

[/i]Easily would have flip flopped Gates-Witten, I believe Witten will be the first TE off the board, he has a better QB.  Selvin Young pick, pretty early for the RBBC thing in Denver, who hell knows who'll be carrying the rock there, changes every year it seems.  Out of this group Rudi Johnson has my Comeback Player of the Year written on it, Ronnie Brown scares me at #41, if he's my 3rd RB, I'm all good.  I like Turner to turn some heads in Atlanta, and I don't like the White pick, how many RBs have they drafted in the last couple years, looks like a share the load there, slide him down.[i]

5th Rd
49. WR Roy Williams - Lions
50. TE Kellen Winslow - Browns
51. RB Julius Jones - Seahawks
52. RB Fred Taylor - Jaguars
53. WR Brandon Marshall - Broncos
54. RB Matt Forte - Bears
55. QB Marc Bulger - Rams
56. RB Earnest Graham - Buccaneers
57. WR Santonio Holmes - Steelers
58. TE Tony Gonzalez - Chiefs
59. QB Matt Hasselbeck - Seahawks
60. WR Calvin Johnson - Lions

[/i] Hasselbeck, loved the pick, personally I think he should slide up, he had a great year last year, easily slide him up before Bulger, has Bulger played a full season yet?????  I like J. Jones in Seattle, look for nice numbers, I may have reached for Marshall, I do like Holmes and Calvin Johnson, Marshall needs to get his act together, if he does, it's a good pick, and how long can Taylor play, I like him, but god he scares me, nice pick of Forte, could be a nice rookie.  Graham I'm not a big fan of either, it's hard telling who Gruden will have carrying the ball, anyone know how Cadillac is?[i]

6th Rd
61. QB Donavon McNabb - Eagles
62. RB Edgerrin James - Cardinals
63. WR Dwayne Bowe - Chiefs
64. WR Greg Jennings - Packers
65. RB Jonathon Stewart - Panthers
66. RB Deuce McAllister - Saints
67. WR Lee Evans - Bills
68. WR Donald Driver - Packers
69. QB Eli Manning - Giants
70. QB Jay Cutler - Broncos
71. TE Dallas Clark - Colts
72. WR Chris Chambers - Chargers

[/i]Getting down here in players, McAllister worries me, injuries... and Lee Evans, WOW did he burn me last year, I'd have a hard time drafting him this year again, even in the 6th round, give me him in the 8th, won't happen probably but you won't see me taking him.   Dallas Clark I probably would slide him up some, just because of who is QB is.[i]

Anyway, here's just my quick glance.  Looking forward to the season!!!!
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by StegRock on Jul 4th, 2008, 3:56pm
First off, VERY nice, well thought-out analysis, Larsman!  Good job! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Also, I've, alas, made the final update to our Top 100 Rankings list in the initial post of this thread. [smiley=steg.gif] Check it on out... [smiley=checkin.gif]
Title: Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
Post by T-Rave on Jul 14th, 2008, 12:01am
A few thoughts . . .

Jackson and Addai before Westbrook.  Hmmm.  Can't help thinking Westbrook is year-in and year-out still underrated, especially in PPR leagues.  The guy is a beast.  I'd pick him before Jackson; he and Addai are pretty close though.

I wouldn't pick Peyton Manning and Frank Gore before Marion Barber.  As for Manning, there are too many other good qbs you can get later to waste such an early pick on Manning: Romo for one, but also Brees.  As for Gore, . . . geez, do I need to say anything?  Pick Barber before Gore, please!

There's no way I take Selvin Young at 39 -- before Ronnie Brown, Rudi Johnson, etc.?!?  No way, not with Denver's impossible-to-predict rb situation.  Too much risk.

I understand the remarks that Earnest Graham was a steal at 56.  I agree, for now.  But I wouldn't be too terribly surprised if Tampa signs one of the (many) free agent running backs -- perhaps Kevin Jones?  This would really lessen Graham's value.

I'm a little surprised the Pats' D didn't get taken -- especially considering Jacksonville and Dallas got taken.  I know they lost some playmakers, but come on, it's New England -- they always find someone to more than adequately fill in the holes.  


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