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(Message started by: Philly on Oct 31^st, 2002, 6:37am)

Title: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by Philly on Oct 31^st, 2002, 6:37am

The preliminary list of potential nominees has been released. Each year 4-7 of them make the final cut so to speak and are elected to the Hall of Fame.

Who do you think is most worthy? Who do you think we get to wear the yellow jacket next summer?

QBs:
Ken Anderson
Boomer Esiason
Jim Hart
Jim McMahon
Jim Plunkett
Phil Simms
Ken Stabler

RBs
Marcus Allen
Ottis Anderson
Roger Craig
Chuck Foreman
Herschel Walker

WRs:
Cliff Branch
Isaac Curtis
James Lofton
Art Monk
Drew Pearson
Sterling Sharpe
Steve Tasker (also Special teams player)
Wesley Walker

TEs
Raymond Chester
Todd Christensen
Brent Jones

Centers:
Ray Donaldson
Jay Hilgenberg
Rich Saul
Jeff Van Note

Guards:
Joe DeLamielleure
Russ Grimm
Bob Kuechenberg

Tackles:
Jim Covert
Joe Jacoby
Mike Kenn
Jim Lachey
Gary Zimmerman

Defensive Linemen:
Elvin Bethea (DE)
Dave Butz (DT)
Ray Childress (DE/DT)
Fred Dean (DE)
Richard Dent (DE)
L.C. Greenwood (DE)
Claude Humphrey (DE)
Ed "Too Tall" Jones (DE)
Sean Jones (DE)
Joe Klecko (DT/DE/NT)
Harvey Martin (DE)

Linebackers:
Harry Carson
Randy Gradishar
Wilber Marshall
Clay Matthews
Karl Mecklenburg
Matt Millen
Sam Mills
Jerry Robinson
Al Smith

Defensive Backs:
Lester Hayes (CB)
Ken Riley (CB)
Donnie Shell (S)
Jack Tatum (S)
Roger Wehrli (CB)

Punter:
Ray Guy

Coaches:
Don Coryell
Tom Flores
Jimmy Johnson
Chuck Knox
Bill Parcells

Contributors:
Ed DeBartolo, Jr.
Ben Dreith
Art Modell
Art Rooney, Jr.
Paul Tagliabue
Ralph Wilson, Jr.
Ron Wolf
George Young

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by FourTwoOh on Oct 31^st, 2002, 11:07am

Marcus Allen {any opinions of his going in as a Chief?}
James Lofton
Art Monk
Lester Hayes
Hank Starm*

I'm only aware of this because I'm a KC local, but Stram was nominated by the Seniors Comitee. He automatically joins the 15 selected finalists, and then has to get the same 80% of the votes as the regular nominess.

Just for fun, here's my fantasy team off the list

QB - Jim McMahon
RB - Marcus Allen
RB - Roger Craig
WR- James Lofton
WR - Sterling Sharpe
TE - Todd Christiansen

not all of these guys are actuall HOF material in my book, but I'd love to field this team.

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by Philly on Oct 31^st, 2002, 12:42pm

I didn't know the Srs. Committee already nominated someone...

Anyway, here are my probables:

Phil Simms
Marcus Allen (as a Raider, hate to break it to you 420)
James Lofton
Matt Millen
Richard Dent
George Young

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by FourTwoOh on Oct 31^st, 2002, 9:41pm

Has Allen said anything lately? My info is several seasons old. At one point during his time here he was publicly saying he'd go in as a Chief. He easily, and to be honest, imo, could have changed his mind. A part of me would enjoy having another Chief in the hall, but this one would seem kind of hollow.

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by Philly on Nov 1^st, 2002, 6:33am

Haven't heard a thing. Just speculation on my part...

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by Barnaby_Wilde on Nov 6^th, 2002, 4:05pm

The CBS guys (Deion, Marino, Boomer) put him on the spot last week, and he said he'd let his momma decide.

Takes the pressure off him! :)

Seriously, I think he'll choose to go in as a Raider,he had his best years with them, plus his Superbowl win as well.

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by ugley on Nov 9^th, 2002, 6:26pm

If I could pick two they would be Boomer, an artist at the play action fake. Tasker, always gave 110%. I know neither is likely but I did enjoy their games. [smiley=cheers.gif]

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by DirkDiggler on Nov 10^th, 2002, 10:15am

OKay--

I finally have a chance to go through this list and tell you who is going to make it.

I think 5 have to get in every year, so I am gonna go with that number.

Marcus Allen--as a raider
Art Monk-- arguably in the top 3 WRs of all time with Largent and Rice.
Richard Dent-- NO BRAINER
Joe Jacoby
Ed "too tall" Jones

I would like to see some of my favorite players growing up make it, but alas:
Karl Mecklenburg
Zimmerman
Hilenburg--maybe in a few years.

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by FourTwoOh on Nov 10^th, 2002, 11:33am

on 11/10/02 at 10:15:43, DirkDiggler wrote:

I would like to see some of my favorite players growing up make it, but alas:
Karl Mecklenburg

Mecklenburg is defenently worthy. He was a force to be dealt with.

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by Barnaby_Wilde on Nov 10^th, 2002, 11:55am

Here is my list:

Who do you think is most worthy? Who do you think we get to wear the yellow jacket next summer?[/b]

QBs:
Jim Plunkett

RBs
Marcus Allen

WRs:
James Lofton
Art Monk

Centers:
Jeff Van Note

Guards:
Russ Grimm

Tackles:
Joe Jacoby

Defensive Linemen:
Richard Dent (DE)

Linebackers:
Harry Carson

Defensive Backs:
Lester Hayes (CB)

Contributors:
George Young

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by Philly on Jan 26^th, 2003, 3:40pm

And here are the official "winners"...

Marcus Allen
Elvin Bethea
Joe DeLamielleure
James Lofton
Hank Stram

A couple surprises there in my opinion.

Here's the story...

http://www.superbowl.com/news/story/6149084

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by FourTwoOh on Jan 26^th, 2003, 4:03pm

Thanks for the link. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Seeing that they have the video of Stram's super bowl game wher they "had him miked", I was instantly [smiley=hooters.gif] and the it popped up that they don't "do" video on game days. [smiley=doh.gif] >:(

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by StegRock on Jan 26^th, 2003, 4:22pm

From more of a modern-day perspective, which is mine, I really like the selections of Marcus Allen going in as a first-balloter and James Lofton, who I have always had admiration for even though I can't stand his fantasy football advice on that FOX Sports Net fantasy football show he is/was on. ;D Though I hate to say it as a Broncos fan, I do think Marcus should go in as a Raider. Sorry FourTwoOh! :-[ From a historical perspective, of which, granted, I am less knowledgeable, I really like seeing Hank Stram finally get in. He seemed to be the quintessential coach, at least of the times, and a successful one at that. I also don't know how much longer a guy like that, who arguably should be inducted, has a chance to get in, so I am happy he got in now. Congrats, FourTwoOh! [smiley=letsmakeup.gif]

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by FourTwoOh on Jan 26^th, 2003, 4:31pm

on 01/26/03 at 16:22:05, StegRock wrote:

I almost literally "cut my baby teeth" on Hank Stram coaching pro football, so I'm as biased as they come. Very likely I'll be making my initial pilmgramige to Canton this summer. Stram and Allen, Chiefs - Packers HOF game. Road trip! [smiley=dancin.gif]

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by DirkDiggler on Jan 28^th, 2003, 5:03pm

How the HELL did Art Monk NOT make the Hall of Fame? Top 5 receiver of all time.......

Dam it!!!

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by StegRock on Jan 28^th, 2003, 7:43pm

on 01/28/03 at 17:03:27, DirkDiggler wrote:

How the HELL did Art Monk NOT make the Hall of Fame? Top 5 receiver of all time.......

I tend to agree with you, Dirk. I think Monk should eventually be in the Hall. But, I did remember reading something about six months ago regarding why Monk should not be inducted into the Hall... ever, and I found it! ;D It is actually Peter King, whose opinion I typically respect, who makes this assertion! :o Here is the quote:

Memo to Mel Kiper: You say Art Monk should be a lock for the Hall of Fame, and you say you can't figure a single reason why he hasn't been voted in. I'm a voter. Here's why: Monk played 16 NFL seasons. He was All-Pro twice. He led his team in receiving six times in 16 seasons. I covered the Giants in the mid-'80s, and they respected Gary Clark and feared Clark far more than Monk. Yes, he caught more than 900 balls. In 10 years, he'll be about 15th on the all-time receptions list. Classy guy, wonderful person off the field -- but neither of those things can be factored in when we consider qualification for induction. Monk belongs in the Hall of Very Good, not the Hall of Fame.

Here is a link to the whole article, but I have to admit that the excerpt above is all that is stated regarding the issue at hand:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/peter_king/news/2002/08/05/mmqb/.

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by FourTwoOh on Aug 3^rd, 2003, 4:37pm

Should be a smiling cry, but tears none the less during Hank Stram's induction. Shame he had to wait this long. If some of you missed it, he was rolled out in a wheelchair and instead of making an actual speech, he had taped a acceptance speech that they had edited in with some of classic sideline animations. Quite touching.

Lofton's speech was very nice as well. Marcus is two away at this point.

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by Philly on Aug 4^th, 2003, 11:49am

I caught the end of Lofton's speech and the beginning of Elvin Bethea's speech. I wish I caught the Stram speech - sounds pretty intense.

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by Bob_Oswego on Aug 15^th, 2003, 11:00am

Stram was not only a great coach, motivator and teacher he was a terrific analyst from the point of view of explaining in lay man's terms what was going on.

Even at the induction he was still innovative with the speech being taped and all etc.

I'm really glad he made it in while living

Title: Re: NFL Hall of Fame, Class of 2003
Post by StegRock on Jul 5^th, 2005, 1:16am

Thought this old thread should be bumped up given today's somber news. From "The REAL Feed":

Hall of Fame coach Stram dead (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2100419&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233)
ESPN: NFL (04.07.2005 16:59)
Stram still Chiefs' all-time winningest coach by Associated PressNEW ORLEANS -- Hall of Fame coach Hank Stram, who took the Kansas City Chiefs to two Super Bowls and was known for his inventive game plans and exuberance on the sideline, died Monday,
his family said. He was 82. Stram had been in ...

Feel free to add any thoughts/memories you have of Coach Stram...