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Title: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jan 19th, 2003, 12:51am Hey, gang! I have received more than a few e-mails/IM's regarding ideas for the offseason on "the Gridiron". For that, I am VERY grateful! [smiley=bow.gif] It shows me that you guys really care about this place of ours! :'( Anyway, I wanted to address this publicly so as to expedite the process and let everyone know where I am coming from in a forthright manner. Many of the ideas were not related to football (discussion or activity). They were related to fantasy sports, such as NASCAR or baseball, that pick up when the football season ends. First off, I have to admit, though I am a sports fan in general, but not one of NASCAR, I am only into fantasy football when it comes to fantasy sports. As a matter of fact, frankly speaking, it is the evenly-distributed, one-game-per-week, not exceedingly long 17-week schedule of the NFL that puts football over the top for me as the sport most conducive to fantasy enjoyment and fulfillment and makes me a proponent of fantasy football versus other fantasy games. As such, it is my vision that "the Gridiron" remain a purely football environment. Even "the Sidelines" is not supposed to be a completely free-for-all board. Again, this is also fairly consistent with my bigger objective of daring to be different. I want us to be "specialists" rather than general practitioners. Next, most of the proposals I received made the pitch that what was being suggested would bring in new blood. (FourTwoOh, don't take this personally, but I have to make reference to the otherwise AWESOME contest you are running.) FourTwoOh made the same claim regarding the aforesaid contest, which is completely football-related. The fact is the contest has only brought in two more members and only one who participates on "the Gridiron" outside of the contest. Now, do not get me wrong. I am not saying that that is a flaw of FourTwoOh's contest. His contest has been GREAT and I hope it becomes a tradition here on "the Gridiron" (I was actually wondering if it could be continued through the Pro Bowl under the same premises [smiley=hmmmm.gif] [smiley=yes.gif] ). Anyway, I am just saying that I would like to do things around here because they (their means) fit "the Gridiron" mission, not just for the sake of drawing attention (their ends). The ends don't justify the means here on "the Gridiron"! At any rate, more pragmatically put, might some of these ideas bring in new members? Maybe! Will those new members really end up participating the way I would hope, i.e. in the football discussions of the forum? Probably not! Maybe X Probably not = :P Finally, the bottom line, with the addition of "the Gridiron" to Fantasyfootballer.com, I am exceeding server quotas on a regular basis. Thus far, I have avoided incurring any extra expense/fees, but... I have been over-limit, significantly in some cases, in August, September, November and January, i.e. this month. Whatever... We won't have any problems! Don't worry about that! Honestly, it is not that expensive to run a web site (as long as you know what you're doin' [smiley=swollenhead.gif] [smiley=yes.gif] )! That having been said, a couple "semi-" down/slow months would not be the worst thing. Things'll really pick up when WE do OUR FIRST-EVER Mock Draft #1, on which next year's CBFL will be based, around the end of May, and the GBRFL and QFL guys will be around off-and-on year-round; there's the NFL Draft in April, as well. Besides that, I think we have enough regulars to pull this thing through what will probably be the most difficult offseason we will ever have to endure. We don't need to unnecessarily adulterate our forum just to keep things lively during the offseason. I mean... Isn't how things go during the "slow months" around here just up to YOU? Come June-ish, will I be thanking you or welcoming you back? [smiley=hmmmm.gif] So, in conclusion, are these all dead issues? No! But, that is my inclination. I will mull things over. [smiley=thinking.gif] I would say this. If I did ever happen to decide to permit say a NASCAR league to run on "the Gridiron", it would require, at least based on the way I want to go about things here, my opening another board for such activities. Off the top of my head, I suppose I'd call such a board "the Bleachers" and I guess it would be our "free-for-all" board. I don't know. We'll see. I know the Daytona 500 is on February 16th (someone's birthday around here ;D ). I'll come to a final determination at least the week prior. And, of course, you are all welcome to express your thoughts, either way, on this thread. One last thing, don't just tacitly dismiss the fact that Steggie here might just have some tricks up his sleeve that would encourage offseason participation! ! ! ! ! [smiley=wiseguy.gif] Well, again, thank you all for helping get "the Gridiron" off the ground! You guys are the lifeblood around here, and I am well aware of that fact! [smiley=bow.gif] I am... ...Your Friend in Fantasy Football, Steve Stegeman a.k.a. StegRock |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Jan 19th, 2003, 1:07am My thoughts on this matter: I think the creation of a "free-for-all" board has it's benefits and of course it's negatives.Though, I think it would be a good thing to have, maybe just not to talk about other sports, but, maybe to get to know everyone a little bit better. See where everyone is coming from. Anyways, my vote goes to having a free-for-all board. I don't think it'll hurt to have one, though, that decision is up to you, Steg. =) |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jan 19th, 2003, 1:25am on 01/19/03 at 01:07:03, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:
I am ALL FOR everybody here getting to know one another better/on a more personal level. I don't like the impersonal feel of some other forums out there. That is one of the reasons I built "the Gridiron". As such, it is an important part of my/"the Gridiron" mission and inherently part of things. As such, the board description for "the Sidelines" states: If you are neither of the above, but are a fan of football who wants to chat about general NFL issues, the CFL, College or High School ball, Arena League Football, cheerleaders, how good the bratwurst is at your local stadium, the political correctness of team names such as the Redskins, how your draft day went, "the Gridiron" (and how much you like it) and its members, etc., etc., this board is for you! Have at it! Getting to know your fellow members falls under the category "'the Gridiron' and its members"! It is worded the way it is because I would still like "personal" conversations to spring from football-oriented talks rather than actually having threads start with "The Yankees: Capitalist Pigs or Capitalist Icons" or "What... or who did you have for dinner last night?" [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] ! I want dudes in here to be "football guys" first. Then, the "football guys" can get to know one another more deeply. A "free-for-all" board, theoretically/potentially, makes the forum, as a whole, "more" vulnerable to "undesirables." That having been said, I am not totally averse to the idea and the concept of "the Bleachers" is kind of growing on me. It fits the pattern of board categorization that I have set up, so... Let's continue the discussion! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Walker_Boh on Jan 19th, 2003, 2:25am Fantasy Football is like falling in love.:-* At first it's the greatest thing in the world and you can't keep your mind off it.[smiley=hooters.gif] It's so new and exciting and you toss and turn at night just thinking about it.[smiley=gettinridden.gif] But the longer it goes, the more you know it has to end. And eventually it does, leaving you feeling lost and empty inside.:'( [smiley=bawling.gif] But deep down you know that it'll be back some day and you do things in the meantime to keep your mind off it. [smiley=alcoholic.gif][smiley=rasta.gif] I don't know where that came from but I guess what I'm trying to say is, I love you guys... No wait, that's not at all what I'm trying to say.[smiley=doh.gif] This is a great Fantasy Football site and I think it should stay that way. I'm a big fan of fantasy baseball and basketball, but I come to "the Gridiron" for football.[smiley=footballsmiley.gif] If another forum was created, I would defiantly check it out and do my best to contribute. [smiley=yes.gif] Don't mess with a good thing.[smiley=no.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Philly on Jan 19th, 2003, 9:07am I also participate in fantasy football only. I'm also a big fan of basketball and hockey, and now that the Phillies seem to show some interest in competing, baseball too. I don't think we really need to add additional sports to this site. If one of you is a NASCAR fan (*gasp*) then it might be a good idea for you to strike off on your own (much as Steg did) and get your own site going. I don't think anyone would mind if you did and even put a post here stating your intents and inviting others to check it out. I also think that, much like the pro players themselves, it's necessary to take a step back and regroup in the January, February, and March months. Regroup; regain some of those lost moments from real life before diving back into things again with the draft. That being said, I imagine things will slow down a bit over the next few months, but there will always be those news nuggets that appear and I will be there to read the other opinions here regarding such. So I'm here for the long haul - but only if that long haul is football-focused. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Drugrunner on Jan 19th, 2003, 9:44am Slow down is what I need. The choice on Nascar and such is yours Steg, but I don't think it would make you happy. Come NFL Draft time, this place will be hopping. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Bootlegger on Jan 19th, 2003, 9:51am I myself only participate in Fantasyfootball, I di watch other sprts of course, but I don't have any high interest in getting involved fantasy wise. However it's not like we don't have alot to talk about, we still have a couple of weeks of football to go, plus with all the coaching moves and the draft, combine ETC. There is no shortage of topics. I have a few hobbies outside of fantasyfootball that keep me quite busy in the off season, landscaping my yard, but best of all, I belong to a Bassmasters club, I fish from April-October. But there is no ultimate better than having fun each sunday during FB Season, except maybe snagging a five pound bass on a nice summer day. Carry on, Ron |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jan 19th, 2003, 1:30pm on 01/19/03 at 09:07:29, Philly wrote:
Philly, we are definitely NSync! [smiley=soapbox.gif] [smiley=soapbox.gif] [smiley=soapbox.gif] [smiley=soapbox.gif] [smiley=soapbox.gif] Wait, I mean in sync! [smiley=zenmaster.gif] [smiley=zenmaster.gif] What Philly states is much more what I would be supportive of. Heck, if we had some guys strike out on their own and create a "Fantasyfootballer.com's Gridiron" forum-like forum, for baseball, basketball, hockey, NASCAR, golf or whatever, I would be VERY willing to publicize said sites here on "the Gridiron" and, moreover, I would be EXTREMELY interested in substantively coming together and networking the sites. That's more what I am all about... bringing people, who have different passions and, thus, will probably do a great job for their respective passions, together. I could totally see a substantive and truly connected network of fantasy sites, innovatively and uniquely built around a forum, i.e. featuring the forum, like "Fantasyfootballer.com's Gridiron", being much more successful than some of these watered-down, do-it-all fantasy sites. A coordinated group of individual passionate specialists coming together rather than a bunch of hired general practitioners. Along these lines, the web site for YaBB forum, which powers "the Gridiron", is located at http://www.yabbforum.com/. I do think that the forums part of such an aforementioned network would have to bear some resemblance. [smiley=wiseguy.gif] :nudge: [smiley=wiseguy.gif] :nudge: |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jan 19th, 2003, 2:49pm Just a quick heads up here for interested parties! Along the lines of my message directly above, the domain names, fantasybaseballer.com, fantasybasketballer.com and fantasydriver.com, are all AVAILABLE. [smiley=wiseguy.gif] :nudge: [smiley=wiseguy.gif] :nudge: One would have to be a bit more creative with hockey ??? and fantasygolfer.com is not available :( ! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by BarnabyWilde on Jan 19th, 2003, 8:37pm I have, being the avid sports fan that I am, participated in fantasy leagues in other sports. I still play fantasy baseball, but stopped doing other sports like basketball and hockey. I think this should be a football site only. I think the idea of a Bleechers board (I prefer calling it the Cheap Seats ;D ) is okay, but I wouldn't want it to go the way the Geek board over at FFToday has gone, where we would get "unwanted or unattractive" members here that really wouldn't contribute in a positive way to the other, more football oriented boards. I admit I read some of the posts over there, and some are humorous, but I normally stick to this site because the information and the people providing it are much more intelligent. Just my take on the matter... |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by paulinstl on Jan 20th, 2003, 8:01am I have participated in a mock draft for the NFL the last couple of years. If we can get enough guys willing to participate and do some in depth analysis on their teams, it can be alot of fun and provide some great info. Makes the real NFL draft much more entertaining, knowing about each player a little more than you would have. We could also consider doing a draft contest, something which rewards points on the accuracy of our picking prognostication skills for all the teams. Everything looks good so far this year Steg, a real nice start for your rookie year. I understand your stated desire to make this place a different environment for football people like you have here so far, but you may also want to consider that every place has turnover. Not all of us will return next year or maybe not to the status as we had this year. Any way you can attract more members is worthy of an effort. Quality will out....cream always rises, right? [smiley=sunny.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by paulinstl on Jan 20th, 2003, 8:31am I have a couple of more suggestions for the off-season. We could have some guys write up a "State of the Team" report during the off-season. Keep us all up on free agent moves, draft needs, injuries, coaching changes and other team info. Similar to the hometown team reports, but with a little more depth. Player rankings is always interesting and one way to make it somewhat different than most, and possibly more accurate is to do it a few diferent times. Do the first one after the draft, the second one early in Training Camp and then one late in Training Camp. I know every site does player rankings, but with the small core of guys who participated here, we can manage some semblence of quality control and maybe wind up with a consensus that has some teeth to it. Certainly, we can come up with something that has more depth than just a numerical ranking for players. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Jetdoc on Jan 20th, 2003, 9:50am on 01/19/03 at 01:07:03, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:
Are you hitting on me? [smiley=takinyours.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Jan 20th, 2003, 10:13am on 01/20/03 at 09:50:11, Jetdoc wrote:
Was hoping you wouldn't notice... [smiley=lickinmychops.gif] :-* |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by ugley on Jan 20th, 2003, 10:29am on 01/20/03 at 09:50:11, Jetdoc wrote:
I like fire places,long walks,little furry animals(beavers that is. [smiley=shiteatingrin.gif] [smiley=sneaky.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by ugley on Jan 20th, 2003, 10:38am on 01/20/03 at 08:31:26, paulinstl wrote:
Great ideas Paul. I could scout the Bangals. [smiley=dejected.gif] [smiley=dejected.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by ugley on Jan 20th, 2003, 10:46am A free for all board might be a good start to networking and Cheap Seats gets my vote for the title. [smiley=threed.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jan 20th, 2003, 2:26pm on 01/20/03 at 08:31:26, paulinstl wrote:
The occassional "Huddle Up" (we really are getting intimate around here) threads would be one unique way player rankings would manifest on "the Gridiron". If you don't remember what I am talking about, here is the link to the one we did this past September right before the season: http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=56;action=display;num=1030919485. And, here is the link to the thread that contains the final results of the "Huddle Up" thread: http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=55;action=display;num=1031291519. I, at least, plan on doing a few of these this offseason. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jan 20th, 2003, 11:49pm on 01/20/03 at 08:01:16, paulinstl wrote:
Well, I agree... with work, paulinstl. But, you can see what the bad apples do to a forum by visiting some of the others out there. They can end up ruling the roost if the admin does not put a stop to it, which, I am sure, can be exhausting. Don't get me wrong! My staffers and I will do exactly that. However, I like to be proactive and try to foster an environment where the mean-spirited creeps more often than not decide to stay away. As to the issue of attrition, I am also trying to be proactive. I am really trying hard to give "the Gridiron" a personal, friendly feel. I respond to queries and deal with things quickly and with a personal touch. With the e-mails I send out to members, I make it a personal message/heads-up from me to each of you rather than yet another sterile, in many cases redundant, fantasy football newsletter. I also therein give kudos to those "run of the mill" members, i.e. the lifeblood, who contribute over and above the call of duty (no, not just to "Mr. Greatness," who is blah-blah-blah NFL Grand Poo-bah of whatever yankity-yank magazine, site or whatever, strictly for marketing purposes). I have even gone about hosting some of our members' personalized profile pics if they were experiencing problems with the ones they were linking to. Regardless of how big we get, I will always do things this way. Why? Because that is the kind of guy I am... that is what is important to me. I also do not and will never make it a point to continuously remind you all to click my advertisements with the threat that that possibly is the only way I will be able to continue to provide you this forum for free. And, I will never tell anyone else to do my dirty work with regards to such matters. I have marketing strategies in mind that hopefully will allow me to avoid such desperate behavior. Again, I treat you all as "contributors" instead of "users." You should know that well by now and, moreover, feel that way. I think this kind of treatment engenders more of a genuine commitment to the project rather than a "minionship" for the provider and, as such, I believe that turnover can be, though not eliminated, minimized. All of that having been said, I will keep what you say in mind, pauly, as it does contain truth. As things grow, I will continue to provide an environment where the cream should be able to rise and the bad apples rot. At the appropriate time, I will recall your words. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by BarnabyWilde on Jan 21st, 2003, 5:36pm I'll take care of the Giants off season report! I'd also be willing to run the NFL draft contest where we predict the first round of the draft come April... Love to do a first round NFL mock where we all take turns selecting, starting with Cincinnati, then Detroit etc...all the way down the Oakland, like the huddle up from last year. on 01/20/03 at 08:31:26, paulinstl wrote:
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Feb 1st, 2003, 12:04am Well, with the NASCAR season here revving up within the next week or so, I thought I should address the main issue hereof now... I have decided against opening a new fourth board on "the Gridiron", our main forum. There are many reasons, some mentioned above, that factored into my decision, but there was one that was really the key. Right now, I am VERY pleased with the post ratios on the three main boards of our forum. The way things are, based on our thorough and fairly logical board descriptions and encouragement of "downstream posting," the main board, "the Red Zone", gets the lion's share of the attention while the lesser two boards, "between the 20's" and "the Sidelines", still get their share, moreover, actually splitting the remainder of the posts right down the middle. This is exactly what I was shooting for. All the boards are frequented to a reasonable degree. I did not want to have the kind of forum where everything goes on one main board whether it should or shouldn't; maybe there is a second board that gets a little attention, and then there are a litany of other generally applicable, i.e. not league-specific, boards that are barely ever even looked at. Bottom line, the addition of any other board, "free-for-all" or otherwise, would definitely disrupt those aforementioned proportions to some degree. In any event, will this be revisited someday? Perhaps, but for now, know that I have A LOT coming at you this offseason. I have big plans that will begin materializing here in a couple months. So, please rest assured that though "the Gridiron" is not going in the direction herein discussed, it is going in a direction, one that is going to be very fun and exciting for all who are a part of it! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 9th, 2003, 6:03pm Anyone interested in doing a mock NFL draft, huddle up style yet? I'm ready!!!! [smiley=gunsablazin.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Philly on Feb 9th, 2003, 9:48pm I think it's time... [smiley=ontheclock.gif] I'm definitely up for one. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by FourTwoOh on Feb 12th, 2003, 8:16pm on 02/09/03 at 18:03:06, BarnabyWilde wrote:
I'll pitch in where I can, but college talent, I just know very little about. Steg, very nice change on the "quoted text" look. Didn't even know I didb't like the old way until seeing this new way. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Feb 12th, 2003, 8:54pm I'm up for it. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by DirkDiggler on Feb 13th, 2003, 4:43pm I am up for it as well. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Feb 14th, 2003, 12:30am on 02/12/03 at 20:16:22, FourTwoOh wrote:
Why thank you very much there, 420! It is comments like those that make taking on this venture worth it. You know... I aim to please you guys [smiley=bow.gif] ... but not pleasure you guys [smiley=gettinridden.gif] ! [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Mar 26th, 2003, 6:46pm SOMETHING BIG IS IN THE WORKS ON "THE GRIDIRON"! [smiley=ontheclock.gif] [smiley=wiseguy.gif] [smiley=gotanidea.gif] [smiley=havinablast.gif] [smiley=ohshit.gif] [smiley=hooters.gif] [smiley=titflash.gif] [smiley=jawdroppin.gif] IT WILL BE BIG "NEWS"! [smiley=yes.gif] WE WILL BE LEAVING OTHERS IN THE DUST! [smiley=shiteatingrin.gif] GET READY FOR THE TAKEOVER! [smiley=commander.gif] [smiley=borg.gif] YOU GUYS WILL BE [smiley=gettinridden.gif] (gettin' serviced, that is) ON "THE GRIDIRON" LIKE NO OTHER FF SITE! AND THEN YOU WILL FINALLY START TO GET A TASTE OF WHAT THE ROCK [smiley=spchef.gif] HAS BEEN COOKIN' FOR ALL YA'LL ALL THIS TIME! [smiley=lickinmychops.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Mar 26th, 2003, 9:20pm You're going to pay us 75 cents for each post that we make?? ;D |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by bgsgfan on Mar 26th, 2003, 10:42pm Quote:
Now that sounds like a great idea!! That would get me out of "troll" status during the offseason fer sure. Seriously though - I am dying to see how you service everyone Steggy. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 26th, 2003, 11:06pm A little birdie [smiley=chicken.gif] told me some "inside information". I think I know!!!! But I can't say.... :-X But if the birdie is correct, it's BIG NEWS!!! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Walker Boh on Mar 27th, 2003, 8:00am Great, now my mind is going crazy! [smiley=annoyed.gif] A new league? A new format? What could it be? |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Mar 27th, 2003, 12:00pm on 03/27/03 at 08:00:41, Walker Boh wrote:
You know that's comin'! That ain't THIS... although that is another thing the Rock is cookin' up for ya's! [smiley=wiseguy.gif] Quote:
If you mean color scheme or something regarding the interface of the forum, [smiley=nono.gif] uh-uh (sp. ?)! The color scheme and usage of the YaBB forum program ain't changin' ever (or, at least not foreseeably)! ... Mu-ah-ha-ha! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Mar 27th, 2003, 3:20pm How suspicious that Steggy failed to remark on the 75cent idea I had... hmm... interesting.... [smiley=hmmmm.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Philly on Mar 27th, 2003, 4:59pm on 03/26/03 at 18:46:30, StegRock wrote:
If this is what I think it is, it's going to be H U G E I'm stoked!!! [smiley=drummer.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Walker Boh on Mar 27th, 2003, 8:47pm You guys are killin' me... [smiley=furious.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Mar 27th, 2003, 9:18pm Well, the CONTRACT has been SIGNED... [smiley=ohshit.gif] [smiley=hmmmm.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Mar 28th, 2003, 11:16am SHOCK :o and AWE [smiley=ohshit.gif] ! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Philly on Mar 28th, 2003, 12:21pm on 03/28/03 at 11:16:37, StegRock wrote:
A player in my fantasy league has already informed the rest of the teams that he has dibs on the name Shock and Awe for this coming season. (Maybe I'll beat him to the punch and draft Jeremy Shockey and name my team Shock and All.) [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Mar 28th, 2003, 12:43pm on 03/27/03 at 21:18:41, StegRock wrote:
...and now faxed off! [smiley=hmmmm.gif] :o IT'S IMMINENT! SOON, THERE WILL BE "SHOCK AND AWE"! [smiley=ohshit.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Mar 28th, 2003, 3:19pm Ok, I'm going crazy with curiosity.... [smiley=gonecrazy.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Mar 29th, 2003, 9:16pm Oh, oh... we are SO, SO close! Get ready for your fantasy football worlds to get ROCKED [smiley=drummer.gif] [smiley=guitarist.gif] [smiley=headbanger.gif] and your fantasy football lives made MUCH EASIER [smiley=hippy.gif] [smiley=rasta.gif] [smiley=pimpin.gif] [smiley=beatnik.gif] ! [smiley=yes.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Mar 30th, 2003, 1:37am Only ONE step left... It is just a matter of... [smiley=evil.gif] "Mu-ah-ha-ha!" |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Apr 11th, 2003, 10:32pm 'Nother piece of BIG news gonna' be comin' atchya's! Just gotta' let it "go through" first; then, I will apprise ya'll! OHHHHHH, YEAAAAAA! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Philly on Apr 12th, 2003, 10:22am You know what this website could really use, Steg? A LITTLE MORE SUSPENSE! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Apr 12th, 2003, 12:41pm on 04/11/03 at 22:32:22, StegRock wrote:
Well, you might have just read about it in the e-mail I just sent out to the gang! I just yesterday snatched up another SWEET domain name that I CAN'T BELIEVE was still laying out there exposed... FFPlayers.com! I don't know, but that shit is SWEEEEEET... and will soon be linkin' directly to... [smiley=awwgee.gif] ;D ;) |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron": FFPlayers.com Post by StegRock on Apr 15th, 2003, 6:18pm We NOW OFFICIALLY exist at... FFPlayers.com (http://www.ffplayers.com/) Go on over and check it out! Just click on the link above! "Ceeeee-le-brate good [smiley=drummer.gif] [smiley=guitarist.gif] [smiley=singin.gif] [smiley=guitarist.gif] times! Come on!" [smiley=alcoholic.gif] [smiley=cheers.gif] [smiley=hooters.gif] [smiley=toocool.gif] [smiley=hippy.gif] [smiley=pimpin.gif] [smiley=titflash.gif] [smiley=rasta.gif] [smiley=texan.gif] [smiley=bonghit.gif] (NOTE: This is how we will eventually exist via the index page at FantasyFootballer.com.) |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron": FFPlayers.com Post by Walker Boh on Apr 16th, 2003, 7:52pm Very catchy Steg, I like it! Fantasyfootballer.com is cool enough, but it's a mouthful. [smiley=singin.gif] I think this will work out much better. [smiley=yes.gif] Keep up the good work! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron": FFPlayers.com Post by StegRock on Apr 16th, 2003, 8:20pm on 04/16/03 at 19:52:42, Walker Boh wrote:
Do remember, Walker, we ain't goin' anywhere. We exist at both "FFPlayers.com" and "FantasyFootballer.com". It is just that we do not exist at the "FantasyFootballer.com" index/home page as of yet. As stated, that is in the works! [smiley=borg.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on May 23rd, 2003, 2:50pm Just bumpin' this IMPORTANT thread so the information herein is more readily available to everyone! [smiley=borg.gif] [smiley=bow.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on May 28th, 2003, 10:05pm Fellas, as per the e-mail I just sent out to you all, I am on the brink of implementing a significant change that I actually have alluded to in the past. It may seem somewhat small right now, but actually it will probably be the biggest factor to our growth and gaining popularity. Well, stay tuned! I'll have it done and announced in a jiffy here! [smiley=ontheclock.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by DirkDiggler on May 28th, 2003, 10:22pm Waiting for the e-mail with my pants on... Don't want Steg to whip his dick out again....... Seriously, I am looking forward to see what the hell you are doing now. I am sure it will be good.. Everything else has been!!! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on May 28th, 2003, 10:22pm Guys, update your bookmarks and spread the word... WE now exist simply at... FantasyFootballer.com (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/)! Check it out! [smiley=checkin.gif] [smiley=bow.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by PA Outlaws on May 28th, 2003, 10:23pm Damn I hate the tidbits of info you give! [smiley=checkin.gif] Come out with it boy! I'm guessin' your uploading to the new server! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by PA Outlaws on May 28th, 2003, 10:24pm oops. Guess I was a minute late! [smiley=Imwithstupid.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by DirkDiggler on May 28th, 2003, 10:28pm VERY NICE!!!! You know this makes me VERY VERY Happy. I think it will REALLY REALLY help bring in more traffic. THANK YOU!!!!! (where the hell GBRFL go?) [smiley=dancin.gif] [smiley=dancin.gif] [smiley=dancin.gif] [smiley=dancin.gif] [smiley=dancin.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on May 28th, 2003, 10:32pm Link on the main forum page where the GBRFL board is has been updated. Further notices are forthcoming... |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by PA Outlaws on May 28th, 2003, 10:33pm Great Work Steg! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] What's up with the all the other domain names? ??? |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on May 28th, 2003, 10:38pm Stegster is da man. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on May 28th, 2003, 10:45pm on 05/28/03 at 22:33:15, PA Outlaws wrote:
It's all about spreadin' the word, PA! All of those automatic re-direct pages have "keywords" embedded in them. These will eventually, probably in about 6 to 18 months, get picked up by search-engine web crawlers and, well, we'll be lookin' PHAT! Also, ultimately, the value of existing at multiple domains, especially the pretty darn good ones I have gone about acquiring, is inherent, right? Think it through! Anyway, woooo, hoooo! [smiley=havinablast.gif] I'm pumped! [smiley=sumo.gif] (That's the closest dude we got to a body-builder!) |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by BarnabyWilde on May 28th, 2003, 11:22pm Nice!! Thanks for all of your hard work Stegg-o! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jun 13th, 2003, 5:03pm Fellas, The site move is upon us, upgradin' servers. I am going to work on it hardcore starting RIGHT NOW. Expect somewhat of a rocky road this weekend. I may even have to close shop for a bit from time to time over the next 24 to 72 hours. Thank you for your patience, understanding and cooperation! Soon, no more "Internal Server Errors"! [smiley=havinablast.gif] Peace out, Steve Steg [smiley=smileytrash.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jun 14th, 2003, 2:00am Okay, guys, Here is how things are going to transpire with the "big move". We are still on the old server and will be until sometime between tomorrow afternoon and Monday afternoon. When the new account becomes able to go live, I will switch what is called the DNS. We will still be on the old server at that point. When the DNS pointer switches from the old server to the new server, "the Gridiron" will go DOWN [smiley=gettinridden.gif] (no, not like that... sheesh... these smilies have "minds" of their own); no error messages, it will just be DOWN. I will then furiously go about downloading the rest of the forum that I could not beforehand as some files are subject to change, like, e.g., thread- and member-related files. After the download is complete, I will upload it all to the NEW server. How long the downtime will actually last is contingent on what time of day the DNS pointer switches. The "download-and-upload" process in and of itself will probably take about six hours. I have done a dry-run with this on the FFInsiders.com domain and it went smoothly and I was able to acquaint myself with those little unexpected things, so I do not expect to incur any problems or glitches during the "big move". It is just a matter of doing it all and then it'll be smoooooooth sailin' into a brighter, "error"-free future for all Gridironers. Our new server should make for an even MORE PLEASURABLE surfing experience here on "the Gridiron". [smiley=bow.gif] Between now and then, by all means, feel free to keep beating up our old server on the way out. No reason to stop now! :D Over annnnnnnnd Out, [smiley=tired.gif] Steg [smiley=sleepers.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jun 16th, 2003, 8:39pm Well, we're in our new ride! Hope ya'll like it! It sure is smooth! Enjoy! [smiley=havinablast.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Walker Boh on Jun 19th, 2003, 9:05pm Nice work on the server migration Steg. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Big improvement [smiley=yes.gif] [smiley=cheers.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Jun 19th, 2003, 11:06pm Yep, though, I still get the error message about 50 times a day... grr... >:( j/k [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Philly on Jun 20th, 2003, 8:55am Kudos from the southern end of your state too... I'm glad it's working great now because I was getting perturbed Monday when I was jonesing for the mock to start and the whole site was down. [smiley=bow.gif] [smiley=bow.gif] [smiley=bow.gif] [smiley=bow.gif] [smiley=bow.gif] [smiley=havinablast.gif] [smiley=bow.gif] [smiley=bow.gif] [smiley=bow.gif] [smiley=bow.gif] [smiley=bow.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by bgsgfan on Jun 29th, 2003, 12:50pm Steg - One idea I have been thinking about would be a real chat room (vs message boards). A lot of times I see a lot of the other guys in here and it would be fun and informative to be able to all get together in informal chats. We could even set up regular get togethers (weekly?) that could be more topical. Some ideas for this time of year could be : draft strategies, sleepers, position discussions, team reports, etc.. For during the season: start or bench, weekly best performers, trade advice, etc.. I realize we cover all of those things on these boards, but in a chat environment the responses are immediate, allowing more dialogue and potentially more synergy to develope. Not better or worse than a message board, just different. I don't know how hard that would be to incorporate - or even if it would be worthwhile, but I do believe it has potential. In the meantime, if anyone would like to "chat" with me, between about 3 PM and 5 PM EST on weekdays I hang out with some friends (including my gf) at Yahoo 30s room 8 under the ID "jacktatang" or "bgsgfan". |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Philly on Jun 29th, 2003, 2:55pm on 06/29/03 at 12:50:42, bgsgfan wrote:
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jun 29th, 2003, 5:30pm Interesting you bring that up about a chat room! I've weighed it in my head a few times now and I am leaning in that direction, even maybe in lieu of converting "the Bleachers" section to a message board. I mean a chat room in combination with "the Bleachers" sticky thread and the occasional "Get to know your Gridironers" threads on "the Sidelines" may actually be exactly what the doctor ordered for "the Gridiron". And, it ALL would be quite unique. There is a chat room mod for the YaBB forum... [smiley=thinking.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by KillerKingSting on Jul 29th, 2003, 5:01pm Just read this whole thread (3 pages). You guys are the best thats out there , hands down. And this web site is the best thats out there as well. I've been searching for a place like this. Respectful, creative people that are into fantasy football! Someone pinch me. Oh, watch out for my stinger there! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by DirkDiggler on Jul 30th, 2003, 2:57am on 07/29/03 at 17:01:16, KillerKingSting wrote:
Wow.....I think you are gonna fit in well here. You were actually smart enough to read a thread before posting...... Welcome!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Philly on Jul 30th, 2003, 5:41am Heya... I know I've responded to some of your threads here, but never gave you an official hello KKS. There's not a whole lotta BS here. We're all FF fans/players and, for the most part, are straight-shooters. People here will take the time to actually read your posts and respond thoughtfully to them, unlike some other sites where everyone is looking for the next flame opportunity. Enjoy! ;D |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 1st, 2005, 5:28pm I'm upchucking this old thread to make a special request of you all... [smiley=loudnclear.gif]LET'S GET THE WORD OUT IN CYBERSPACE ABOUT THESE "Team-by-team Fantasy-specific Individual Player Rankings" we got goin' on here at FantasyFootballer.com. Here's the Eagles': http://www.ffpro.com/teamreports/eagles/eagles-footballinfoframes.htm. Now, go hit up some other message-board forums... [smiley=onit.gif] This great stuff is original, exclusive content of the FantasyFootballer.com network!!! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Nov 29th, 2005, 8:20pm Well, fellow Gridironers, I am at one of these junctures where I'd like to (in the spirit of slow, but steady progress) garner some input from you all regarding (reasonable/small) upgrades/modifications to be considered for the offseason. At this time, I would like input on the following... 1) Our "FF-specific Team Reports" section, which is featured at the top of the pages of the forum has, thankfully, grown by leaps and bounds this year. That section along with the other "added" (non-forum) related links in that area above the forum is really pushing the forum itself down, however, necessitating quite a bit of (extra) scrolling. How would you guys like to see the stuff up there reorganized/consolidated? The "Donations" link ain't going anywhere. But, besides that, the rest could be consolidated under two headings: "FF-specific Team Reports" and "Other Featured Content". I mean, one quick case in point, as things stand right now "the Newsstand" and "The REAL Feed" links are in fact redundant. Also, do you guys like that stuff up there where it is or would you prefer those links to be off to the left? Or, what other ideas do you have regarding this? 2) This is a very small one... Is it time to remove the "smiley memorial" to 9/11 up at the top center? Do NOT get me wrong. I like it. I like those who like it. And, I like that it in its small way helps us not forget that event. BUT,...??? :-/ ... ?.?.? Finally, please understand that at this time I am asking about these two issues in particular as I am, given what I perceive to be their particular importance at this time, willing to add getting them done to my already full plate. So, I want input about what I can (make the time to) do. What I don't need is a deluge of unfocused recommendations. So, please limit your suggestions to these areas of inquiry. And, ON THE OTHER HAND, if you kind of like things as they are, please let me know that too (though I don't think this is totally going to be or even should be the case as I myself think something, even if just something small, needs to be done, at least with respect to #1 above). The point being, if you guys think things are fine as they are with respect to these issues, I can consider directing my energies to other "projects". Please do feel free to chime in here. Just do so thoughtfully. There are few, if any, sites out there where your input on such developmental matters matters. Here I ask for it. I implore you all to take advantage of this unique opportunity to "make a difference". Thank you for your anticipated thoughtful input! I am... ...Sincerely, Steve Stegeman [smiley=builder.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by MordecaiCourage on Nov 30th, 2005, 12:50am on 11/29/05 at 20:20:14, StegRock wrote:
Steg...I have only been here for a short while so I don't feel I can speak with much authority on site layout or content. However, I will try to provide some insight to how I see it. I personally like the layout you have, but I can see where you may want to reorganize things a bit. The Team Reports section is what pulled me to the site in the first place and is one of my favorite things about the Gridiron. I would like to see that stay at the top in the same or similiar layout. I'm not sure how the heading "Other Featured Content" would look, but yes I agree it could be consolidated in some fashion. Quote:
On this subject I can speak with authority. Being a firefighter [smiley=fireman.gif] myself, I've got to say that the memorial means something to me. Alot in fact, but I do think it is time to remove it completely or replace it with something more site specific. I think that most Americans will never forget 9/11. Those that have forgotten will not be stirred by a memorial anyway...even if pictures of the Towers themselves were staring them in the face every day! It's just "not" in them. For those of us who do remember, well hey, we don't need a reminder now do we? That's because it "is" forever in us. Bottom line as I see it is that you should consolidate and refresh the site as you see fit. You are putting in the time in the trenches and if you need or just want to tone things down a bit then you should go for it!! I for one am not going anywhere...I'm here for the long haul. Thanks for asking for our opinions, it shows your willingness to improve this for all of us. Let me know if you need any kind of help. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Nov 30th, 2005, 1:49am Thanks for the fair-minded input, MC! [smiley=bow.gif] I hope others follow in suit and express their "thoughtful" takes. ... Also, I did not realize that my post was going to be the last post on the prior page and, thus, get quickly buried. So, I am going to quote it here so it appears in full, the way I wrote it on page 4 here... on 11/29/05 at 20:20:14, StegRock wrote:
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by BarnabyWilde on Nov 30th, 2005, 7:21pm on 11/29/05 at 20:20:14, StegRock wrote:
I like where the team reports are, easily accessible right there on the front page. If there was a way to keep them there and make them smaller, but still recognizable, then by all means, shrink them down! As long as the site still looks professional (like it does now) I am all for it! Quote:
Since I too work in the [smiley=policeman.gif] and [smiley=fireman.gif] as a 911 dispatcher, I like seeing the 911 smiley. Please keep it there!! [smiley=proudAmerican.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by steelkings on Dec 1st, 2005, 9:51am Steg, For the most part I like the site the way it is. Ive been around for a while and have kinda gotten used to it. You are right however that the Newsstand and the Real Feed are redundent. Also, If I were to change the smiley memorial at the top, I would change it to a memorial of the New England Patriots. ;D Oh wait, sorry , Thats Jakes site! ::) Anyway, I know you didn't ask for it but..... I think it would be wise to include a Site rules or etiquitte link. It seems to me that alot of time is spent (rightfully) on moving things or explaining things to the newbies. I.E. it took me forever to figure out that I could search [smiley=graduate.gif] for archived info before starting a new redundent thread. I had to be slapped around by the moderator a few times before I got it. [smiley=spank.gif] Being slapped by the moderator did 3 things. It helped to keep the site clean yes, but it made me originally feel that the site ownership was being overly pretencious and insulting. I didnt see the ultimate goal and I just wasnt used to this style of forums. It also took time away from the moderators who otherwise could have used said time for their own enjoyment.[smiley=pudwhacker.gif] This site operates differently from any other. [smiley=twothumbsup.gif] I was insulted because I didnt understand what better actually was. It would be nice to point people to a front page Etiquitte and rules area instead of refering to posted threads that newbies wont pursue by themselves anyway. I was close to leaving and never coming back. Fortunatly I had the patients to sit back and see the big picture. I wonder how many people we have lost who could share valuble insite because of their own lack of patients. You have to raise your children [smiley=newbie.gif] slowly. Sorry for offering what you didn't ask for. Just trying to shed some light my brother. [smiley=twocents.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Philly on Dec 1st, 2005, 12:52pm Maybe the Reports could be indicated with a header and a team helmet or logo indicating each team. I too think that they take up a bit too much space. They're getting the prime real estate, above the fold, as it were, when the message board is the heart and soul of the site. I'd also remove the borders from the table. Some of the links up top would better be represented by a rectangular button to draw more attention to them - as it is, I often don't even see them any more when on the site - they've just become more "text". I have to admit, however, that this site is primarily text-driven and I'm more of a graphical kind of guy... As for the 9/11 smiley. I don't need a reminder to remember it. I think it's time to take it down. 9/11 is but one of a number of tragic events that have taken place in the world in recent years. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by DirkDiggler on Dec 1st, 2005, 1:36pm I would generally agree with Jeff. When you log on to the page, it seems that the team links are what the site is about. While they are VERY important and add a LOT of value, the forums are what is the critical meat of the site. (in my opinion) Granted, there is a HUGE link to the forums, but my attention is drawn to all the team reports because they are so colorful. So I would recommend either consolidating them, or maybe moving them. However, either way, I do not think they should get too buried cause they do provide a lot of value. As far as the 9/11 smiley, I believe you know my opinion. I think it should be removed. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Philly on Dec 1st, 2005, 1:39pm I've also discussed this with you before to some extent, but in case you've forgotten my thoughts... I believe that the Gridiron should have an "Index" or "Home" page, with links to everything else that exists on other pages. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Dec 1st, 2005, 10:48pm Thanks for the thought-filled responses, fellas! [smiley=bow.gif] on 12/01/05 at 09:51:04, steelkings wrote:
sk, I think you are still not quite there (in grokking my modus operandi)... "How" we go about this, not just the "what", is fundamental to the "effort". Your proposal rests upon a couple, I firmly believe to be, faulty presuppositions and one incorrect assumption... First, if dudes aren't reading the message-board descriptions with due diligence, who is to say that they are going to read some generalized, likely VERY long-winded preface explaining the rules of etiquette of the forum?!?! I just don't see it happening. The problem dudes, the ones who don't pay attention to the message-board descriptions, will be the same ones who won't read that either, and meanwhile I've just given the "good ones" more (unnecessary) shit to sift through. Secondly, this all presupposes that etiquette on "the Gridiron" is black-and-white enough that it can even be explained, moreover, in less than 10 pages. I knew it never could; hence, the tack we take. Lastly, dudes who are turned off by and run away because of their threads' being moved or locked, mind you, usually with very gracious messages appended by the moderators explaining why, and, in the case of moved threads, with automatic move notices, are NOT dudes I want to be part of the foundation of "the Gridiron". If you (not you, sk,... the generalized "you") can't handle your thread's being moved along with a kind message explaining why and an automatically provided move notice linking to its new location, you need to get a grip. If you can't, there are any of a multitude of lawless FF forums out there for you to inhabit. Ultimately, the effect of this process is that I know pretty much without doubt the dudes who do stay on a) "get it" (like you finally did) and b) are stable, healthy-minded people. The forum is just a little over three-years-old. I'm fine with the number of members we have and, furthermore, I love the across-the-board quality of person we attract. That reality will pay off HUGE dividends in the long-run. on 12/01/05 at 12:52:08, Philly wrote:
A couple notes here... The table just doesn't look good without the borders. I tried it. It just looked terrible,... like the links were floating out there disorganizedly. Regarding the helmet/logo suggestion, you have to know what my response is there. I'm always VERY sensitive to infringing on NFL-licensed stuff. I don't like sites that do it (and I think they end up paying the price for it). A javacscript-driven header from which a drop-down menu of links appears is what I am thinking... both for the "FF-specific Team Reports" AND for our "Other Featured Content". But, that definitely takes us down the path of concealment of the extras for the sake of what really amounts to about two-and-a-half inches (a key two-and-a-half inches, mind you; that's why this is even being discussed, but two-and-a-half inches, nevertheless). on 12/01/05 at 13:39:42, Philly wrote:
NO, I have NOT! I still have the old graphic you sent me and am starting to really give it a "hard look". ... This is ultimately the direction I see us going in, BUT this move is going to have to be VERY well-thought-through and I do not think we are quite there yet. ... At this very moment, I tend to be most agreeable with Jim's "conservative" take. But, I still want to hear people out. CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION... |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Walker Boh on Dec 1st, 2005, 10:48pm 1. The team reports are a great feature, one that definitely catches the attention of new visitors, but things are getting congested up there and they can be a lot to digest when bunched together with all the other information. I would suggest a link that takes you to a page that specifically showcases the team report feature that the site offers. I think it's big enough to stand on its own. 2. Keep the smiley. If it was important enough to put it there, then it's important enough to leave it. I feel something every time I see it, and it reminds me of what's important. Plus, it just looks cool. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by MordecaiCourage on Dec 2nd, 2005, 12:05am on 12/01/05 at 22:48:44, Walker Boh wrote:
The team reports are what initially attracted me to this site. It gives the site a more "professional" feel. To my knowledge the Gridiron is the only site that has this, and that's a plus in my book. Let me explain what I mean. For instance...every forum you log onto, you generally are going there to get opinions on who to start, who to trade for, etc. etc. The new user may see it as any old "Joe" could be answering their question. The team report section gives them that info and more and the sense that a pro is working on it. It also (I guess I can generally speak here) shows that the particular team had been studied by the correspondent and cuts to the chase of those questions that a user was signing on for. It just seems like the info. involved is less guessing and more educated...if that makes sense. I don't think that it detracts from or keeps newbies or anyone else from still posting questions as originally designed, but it adds a sense of professionalism in my opinion. Could it be polished up some? or moved? I'm sure it could and will keep evolving, but I do like it and it is what my co-workers are always reading when I see them logged on to the Gridiron. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by steelkings on Dec 2nd, 2005, 8:35am Quote:
I usually don't involve myself with this kind of thread for obvious reasons. I really wasn't sure about posting the original reply to your initial question. After furthar review, I went back through the registration process and everything I asked about was there. Its basically all written in plain english. I didn't even need my Stegeman decoder Thesaurus and Dictionary to understand it. Well anyway, I'll try and not let anymore University of Illinois moments happen again. STEELKINGS [smiley=Imwithstupid.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by rickgpin on Dec 2nd, 2005, 9:53pm i think that all in all it looks good. the forums are what got me here! if there was a way to reduce the size of the team previews and a way to determine which were for the current week, i would be all for it. with all respect to 9/11, i will not forget and think we can move on. looking good and thanks for asking for input! rickgpin |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Callie on Dec 5th, 2005, 7:12pm As Steg can confirm, I'm not the Gridironer to comment on how to set up anything in web-speak. I'm not a linear person. I'm a concept person. And I do love to see the newbies. So.... I'd like to see the search feature as a more prominent thing - just to get people into the info they want so they will learn how much we have for them. As for the 9/11 smiley, we've seen how many first responders we have around here ( [smiley=sunny.gif] THANK YOU!!!! [smiley=sunny.gif]), and I always want to honor all of the honorable. What do you guys think about revolving smileys that honor the many branches of service and all of those who do the generous tasks who take the risks and do the work that keeps us safe? Just a thought. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by MordecaiCourage on Dec 5th, 2005, 10:08pm on 12/05/05 at 19:12:20, Callie wrote:
I think that's a great idea!!! Don't know how easy it would be on Steg [smiley=steg.gif] to rotate something like that in, but it is an HONORABLE thing to do! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jan 2nd, 2006, 7:44am Hey, all! Any (quick) thoughts about the teeny-tiny little tweak (relatively speaking) that I made to the stuff at the top of the page, most notably the "Fantasy Football-specific Team Reports" section of links and the "featured" links? I changed the font size, and the font in the case of the reports links. Is everything "acceptably readable"? On my screen, it's totally good to go, but... what about on yours??? |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by junkyardjake on Jan 2nd, 2006, 9:44am Quote:
The team names look kind of small and scrunchy on my screen, maybe if you turned off the bold attribute ? [smiley=stilldunno.gif] (I don't have a fancy monitor however, I believe it's a 15") |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jan 2nd, 2006, 5:05pm on 01/02/06 at 09:44:11, junkyardjake wrote:
Good comment... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] That is exactly my greatest area of concern. They do look a bit scrunched together, and I am DEFINITELY willing to turn off the "bold" attribute. The damnedest thing is... I like the (scrunched) look (that bolding "Arial Black" produces). I think it looks cool. 8-) When I turn off the bold attribute, it looks less scrunched, BUT to my eye it looks less cool. Also,... and this is of a bit more substance,... the thickness of the letters allows some of the finely-tuned colors I'm trying to work with there against the black background to come through better. When bold is removed, it, of course, looks less scrunched, but then the team names themselves that are in colors, like dark gray or blue, for which the tight-rope walk is quite thin, aren't nearly as clear. It's the thickness of the letters that seems to give them a (fighting) chance of still jumping off the screen. That said, anybody else have a problem, objectively or subjectively speaking, with the scrunched look of the team-report links? |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by DirkDiggler on Jan 2nd, 2006, 7:05pm I can defintely read the team reports, however, they look kind of blurry to me. The letter 'O' is a big round solid circle. 'V' is an upside down solid triangle, etc.... |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jan 2nd, 2006, 7:19pm Okay,... I am going to quickly change it (DD). Tell me if it's better... |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jan 2nd, 2006, 7:22pm on 01/02/06 at 19:19:30, StegRock wrote:
Better? ... Or, better, but now worse in a different way? |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by DirkDiggler on Jan 2nd, 2006, 7:43pm on 01/02/06 at 19:22:26, StegRock wrote:
BETTER!!!! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jan 2nd, 2006, 7:50pm on 01/02/06 at 19:43:41, DirkDiggler wrote:
[smiley=thumbsup.gif] Thanks, DD, JYJ! [smiley=bow.gif] Where else can you see your input make such an immediate impact??? See or should I say "don't see" what happens after you put a crinkled customer opinion form in the "suggestion box" with all the gum wrappers in it at your local Walmart!!! :-/ |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by DirkDiggler on Jan 2nd, 2006, 7:52pm I do have a suggestion....why not eliminate the section that states junior correspondents and senior correspondents? Then you will have more room for the team names. OR, make the font small on junior and senior correspondents? OR wrap text and make the box smaller for correspondents? I personnally think the more important information is the reports, and not the correspondent info. Again, this is only my opinion....... |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jan 2nd, 2006, 8:24pm Putting the old guy to work here today, huh??? ;) Anyway, [smiley=wizard.gif]Voila!!! Your wish is my command!!! :) The bottom line is that it was a good, thoughtful suggestion... Thank you, DD! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] BUT this is work for me... You want to help keep it going... http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/donate.htm. That said, do NOT hold back any other (reasonable) suggestions. I'm just, yet again, making sure that the bigger picture doesn't get lost in the shuffle... :-/ I'm doing a constant "cost-benefit" juggling act here... that I explain vividly on the "Site Donors" thread, which every good, well-intentioned Gridironer should visit on a semi-regular basis... http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=58;action=display;num=1068780634;start=25. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by DirkDiggler on Jan 2nd, 2006, 9:04pm Quote:
LOOKS GREAT!!!! Thanks Steg!! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jan 5th, 2006, 7:18pm on 12/01/05 at 12:52:08, Philly wrote:
Okay,... in hindsight,... and based on the subsequent changes, to save even more room at the top of "the Gridiron" pages, I've decided to take Jeff's advice here and remove the borders that were around the "FF-specific Team Reports" section of links (also, I set the "spacing" setting to "0" for all the tables up there). How do yous think it looks??? [smiley=thumbsup.gif] or [smiley=thumbsdown.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Callie on Jan 5th, 2006, 8:32pm [smiley=twothumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by BarnabyWilde on Jan 5th, 2006, 8:48pm I like it! [smiley=yes.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Walker Boh on Jan 5th, 2006, 10:02pm It's much better. [smiley=twothumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by DirkDiggler on Jan 6th, 2006, 10:29am on 01/05/06 at 22:02:07, Walker Boh wrote:
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by MordecaiCourage on Jan 6th, 2006, 11:20am Looks STEGariffic! ;) |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Apr 15th, 2006, 5:15am Well, I ain't got time for anything big for yous this offseason, at least not yet. :-/ But, chance circumstance led me to a little somethin'-somethin'... If you have "the Gridiron" index page (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi) bookmarked in your "Favorites" folder/menu (or any page(s) for that matter), go there/to one of them now and see what happens in your "Address" bar and then on your Favorites menu. If nothing, delete your old bookmark and re-bookmark it and check things out. If you have not yet bookmarked "the Gridiron", shame on you, [smiley=nownow.gif] ... ;) but do so NOW!!! You can even drag this sucker off your Favorites menu or out of your Address bar and have a fat and PHAT one for your desktop that will automatically open up the Grid in your browser. [smiley=havinablast.gif] That way you will always be just one click away from your fantasy football home!!! ;D ENJOY, guys!!! [smiley=lickinmychops.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by DirkDiggler on Apr 15th, 2006, 5:07pm on 04/15/06 at 05:15:55, StegRock wrote:
[smiley=thumbsup.gif] I like the icon!! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Apr 15th, 2006, 6:24pm Stevo, thanks for the kudos! [smiley=bow.gif] Did you happen to drag it off your "Favorites" menu or out of your "Address" bar and onto your desktop??? Having a FantasyFootballer.com/"the Gridiron" desktop icon on people's computers out there seems to give us "another level of existence". We become able to be opened like any other program on your computer. Furthermore, it gives you Gridironers out there a way of avoiding having to set your browser's home page on the Grid and making your families, wives and children have to go through "the Gridiron" everytime they want to get to their Avon or Tupperware web sites or Nickelodeon or The Cartoon Network web sites (although they should be going through "the Gridiron Store (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/store.htm)" for Amazon.com and Overstock.com visits [smiley=whistle.gif]). When the wife [smiley=cheerleader.gif] and kids [smiley=newbie.gif] come in, they can click on Internet Explorer, Netscape Navigator or whatever, BUT when PAPPA [smiley=tough.gif] comes in to use the computer, he can just click on his desktop icon for "the Gridiron"!!! [smiley=twothumbsup.gif] Really, when you drag this sucker onto your desktop, the big one looks SWEEEEET alongside all the rest of your computer's icons. [smiley=yes.gif] Anyway,... |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by rickgpin on Apr 15th, 2006, 10:51pm i like that icon! great job! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Apr 16th, 2006, 4:12am Mr. Rickman, sir... [smiley=bow.gif] Thank you! Still wondering... Have any of you dragged the icon onto your desktops? If so, if you did so before midnightish (EST) tonight/last night/Easter eve, you got an old, faulty icon. Mind you, the change to/problem with the icon is not even noticable unless you put the icon into a folder like "My Documents" and your display setting for the folder is set to "Tiles". In a folder set to "Tiles", you'd notice that the graphic would be just a tad stretched. Icon thingies come in three graphical flavors (as it turns out): 16x16 (for browsers and the "List" and "Details" display settings for folders), 32x32 (for desktops and the "Icons" setting) and 48x48 (for folders with the display setting set to "Tiles"). When you are not "really" a computer guy, you learn all this stuff on the fly. At first, actually, I did not even know about the desktop-compatible size and just made the ".ico" so that it would display neatly in 16x16. I did not even know these things could display variably, period. Then, tonight I stumbled on this 48x48 variation, not a biggie at all, mind you, but it's the anally-retentive perfectionist in me that won't let it slip. ... Anyway, point is, if you want the most up-to-date and, in all likelihood, final, non-faulty version of the icon, you would want to drag it from your Address bar or Favorites menu to your desktop once again. Sorry, dudes. [smiley=doh.gif] ... :-[ |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by rickgpin on Apr 17th, 2006, 11:07pm that icon is really slick! i thought there would be some complex programming, but did some research and added an icon for my web page too. thanks for the inspiration steg! [smiley=worship.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Apr 18th, 2006, 2:54am on 04/17/06 at 23:07:21, rickgpin wrote:
[offtopic]I checked your profile and no-go... What's the URL for your site, rick? Wouldn't mind checking it out! [smiley=checkin.gif][/offtopic] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 1st, 2006, 4:32pm Somethin's brewin', boyz and girlz... [smiley=builder.gif] ... [smiley=wiseguy.gif] ... [smiley=whistle.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Philly on Aug 4th, 2006, 9:35am [smiley=havinablast.gif] [smiley=havinablast.gif] [smiley=havinablast.gif] [smiley=havinablast.gif] [smiley=havinablast.gif] [smiley=havinablast.gif] [smiley=havinablast.gif] [smiley=havinablast.gif] [smiley=havinablast.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 6th, 2006, 8:14am BIG SHIT'S COMIN'... [smiley=shitfan.gif] ... [smiley=shiteatingrin.gif] ... [smiley=wiseguy.gif] Steg -> [smiley=getoff.gif] <-You guys It's gonna be CRAZY!!! [smiley=gonecrazy.gif] It's goin' to be a BIG step for the site!!! [smiley=strollin.gif] ... [smiley=yes.gif] You will notice "things" starting to happen sometime tomorrow... today... Sunday... whatever... whenever... It's goin' to be BIG!!! However you look at it... [smiley=pumpedup.gif] ... [smiley=pumped.gif] I'm pumped!!! For now,... the [smiley=builder.gif] ... [smiley=steg.gif] needs his [smiley=sleepers.gif] ... [smiley=tired.gif] ... [smiley=yawn.gif] See yous on the morrow... for me... [smiley=wavinbye.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by DirkDiggler on Aug 6th, 2006, 9:16am on 08/06/06 at 08:14:53, StegRock wrote:
Can you give us a hint?????????? PLease!! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 6th, 2006, 10:37pm on 08/06/06 at 09:16:51, DirkDiggler wrote:
Nope... [smiley=idontwanna.gif] ... [smiley=zipit.gif] BUT, within about 15 minutes, if you check out [smiley=checkin.gif] the index page of "the Gridiron (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi)", you will notice an EXTRA board category and a "special" NEW board... [smiley=hmmmm.gif] That'll be hint enough for yous... ;) The REST will follow fairly shortly thereafter... [smiley=wiseguy.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 7th, 2006, 12:19am Eh-hem... [smiley=awwgee.gif] Well,... it took more than 15 minutes... EVERYTHING with this stuff takes WAY LOOOOONGER than I anticipate... [smiley=builder.gif] Enjoy pokin' around... I should have it all set up soon... [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Tony_O on Aug 7th, 2006, 12:36am It's a locked site......what can we look at? |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 7th, 2006, 1:40am Well,... Toneman,... you were probably just one click away from putting 2 and 2 together and not needing to ask that... http://www.stegslist.com. I'm still plowin' [smiley=builder.gif] here... :) Gonna be a late night... [smiley=tired.gif] again,... [smiley=yawn.gif] but, with the mag tankin' this year :'( (which, by the way, as I will eventually explain, this is tied to in a particular way), I needed to regroup, (re)collect my thoughts, and find a path on which to take this year's BIG step. This is it (and it will hopefully (begin to) pave the way to the mag next year)... [smiley=strollin.gif] ... [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] Anyway,... it's comin'... |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Tony_O on Aug 7th, 2006, 7:48am I'll had clicked all the links and got to a hostica password screen and then a steglist password screen. I noticed that there seemed to be posts already but I couldn't access the page, so I thought I might have been doing something wrong. I'll keep my eyes open for more to come! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 7th, 2006, 2:25pm on 08/07/06 at 07:48:06, Tony_O wrote:
Just a note so dudes aren't confused... [smiley=uh.gif] That page is down... There has been just a plain "coming soon" page up at http://www.stegslist.com for hours now. Tony just got in there quickly before I switched it out. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by MordecaiCourage on Aug 7th, 2006, 4:27pm [smiley=pig.gif] [smiley=pig.gif] [smiley=pig.gif] Little pig, little pig, let me in..... Or I'll huff and I'll puff and I'l blow that locked site in!!! http://mud.mm-a7.yimg.com/image/2581134232 |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 7th, 2006, 5:49pm I digress... just briefly... on 04/15/06 at 05:15:55, StegRock wrote:
Just checkin',... [smiley=checkin.gif] Do all you guys have your "the Gridiron/FantasyFootballer.com" icon on your desktops??? (Mine is the third one down in the far-right column...) http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/images/gcon.gif To get it, all you have to do is bookmark whatever page you want @ FantasyFootballer.com, FFPro.com, FFPlayers.com or any of our domains, StegsList.com, ;) and when it appears in your browser's address bar, drag it off onto your desktop... Do remember, though, that whatever page it is that you bookmarked will be the one that your desktop icon will link to! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by MordecaiCourage on Aug 7th, 2006, 6:35pm on 08/07/06 at 17:49:43, StegRock wrote:
I set mine up a little while back...it looks great. |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 7th, 2006, 10:48pm First of all,... just bringin' this over here so people know what you're talkin' about, MC, and I can get the word out more and garner more feedback... on 08/07/06 at 17:49:43, StegRock wrote:
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 7th, 2006, 10:51pm Next,... on 08/07/06 at 16:27:23, MordecaiCourage wrote:
...you won't have to huff and puff to get in. You'll be able to let yourself in... ;) ...soon, might I add! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 8th, 2006, 6:04am Well, these projects (which involve all kinds of technical computer work) ALWAYS take longer than can be anticipated (by a self-made web-developer hack)... One little technical snafu with a project of THIS magnitude, and what I thought would take 30 or so minutes ends up taking 3 HOURS. :'( Needless to say, in my effort to get every little detail in order, which needs to be done when you take it up to "this notch" [smiley=wiseguy.gif] as those of you who partake in the fruits of StegsList.com (http://www.stegslist.com) will understand, I ran into numerous tiny snafus that needed to be dealt with and not ignored. This project could not be gone about in an "unprofessional" and "insecure" manner. Anyway, it WILL debut sometime today, Tuesday, August 8th. I'm basically done. About an hour more of work left, [smiley=builder.gif] so, worse case scenario, three hours. Most importantly, all the hairy technical stuff is behind me. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Brace yourselves! [smiley=getoff.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Takamine305 on Aug 8th, 2006, 9:13am Hold on to your butts!!! http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/1187/jurparkke2.gif (http://imageshack.us) |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by rickgpin on Aug 8th, 2006, 12:12pm had it on my desktop for awhile. looking good! [smiley=booya.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 8th, 2006, 2:54pm on 08/08/06 at 12:12:24, rickgpin wrote:
I did fix and replace the original-original icon... If you downloaded the VERY first one I uploaded, you got a flawed one. You may want to "re-place"... ... The arrival of Steg's List (http://www.stegslist.com) will be VERY SOON upon us, boyz and girlz... :o |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 8th, 2006, 11:38pm Well,... it's been a looooong, five-day-long "day" for the old Stegger here... [smiley=peedog.gif] But, I just went through it all and "beta-tested" it tooth-and-comb, and, after just one last snafu,... IT ALL works!!! [smiley=dodged.gif] Guys,... the countdown is upon us... To be honest,... right now, I just look forward to going to bed... [smiley=tired.gif] ... [smiley=yawn.gif] ... [smiley=sleepers.gif] But, I do look forward to waking up to some,... well,... "love"... (Actually, I am too [smiley=pumpedup.gif] to fall asleep right away, and I have to go out and pick up Gino soon, anyway, so... I'll be up for a little while longer. [smiley=awwgee.gif]) |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 8th, 2006, 11:41pm StegsList.com (http://www.stegslist.com) is LIVE!!! [smiley=hungry.gif] ENJOY!!! [smiley=lickinmychops.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 9th, 2006, 12:13am SO,... who's gonna be the first in...??? I wonder... [smiley=thinking.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 19th, 2006, 6:04pm I'm brewin' up just a little something else, one last thing for yous right before fall semester begins for me here on Monday... [smiley=yikes.gif] It'll be launched here today. I've always felt, after seeing a (floundering) site that provides such a service (at DOUBLE the price I'll be asking), that, as far as providing pay services to my fellow fantasy footballers goes, I was cut out for THIS more than anything else... [smiley=wiseguy.gif] ... [smiley=zenmaster.gif] and I believe that's saying A LOT! Anyway, once that is up, I'll get our second "Huddle" rollin' "between the 20's". It should all be comin' at yous no later than midnight tonight EST. [smiley=wave.gif] ... [smiley=onit.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 20th, 2006, 8:23am Famous last words... The key word in my post above was "should"... :P Over EIGHT hours later... [smiley=tired.gif] and... IT'S UP,... my last "BIG" addition for the '06 offseason... as I head back to the classroom [smiley=graduate.gif] and back to hittin' the books [smiley=RIF.gif] full-time. Here I am in Hawaii and wifey-poo and I didn't hit the beach all damn summer. It's a great place to read, so... [smiley=palmtree.gif] Anyway, enjoy having "Stegmissioner" :D at your service [smiley=bow.gif] this season! Check it out [smiley=checkin.gif] at: http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/stegmissioner.htm. The link up in the header area is over to the right right next to the "Add 'the Gridiron' to your site" link! 8-) Enjoy, boyz and girlz! [smiley=lickinmychops.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 8th, 2007, 9:07pm [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] Well, fellas, I got great news. You may remember that last year we were getting BOMBARDED with spam. Around the end of last season, when I had the time to deal with it, I made a move that stemmed spammers' posting on the boards. (Yeah, Steg! Thank you!) However, preventing spambots from registering is quite another task. Implementing CAPTCHA registration protection (you know, the method that uses images of squirrely letters and numbers you have to type in to be passed on) is VERY DIFFICULT [I'm still working on that, this current band-aid solution notwithstanding, and it seems like the only CAPTCHA program I may end up being able to implement all by my lonesome is far from the strongest as it seems like the stronger they are the harder they are to install/the more they cost; I'm trying to do all this stuff with available FREEBIES when really at this point, I probably need to be hiring a computer programmer :-/ (yea, right... as if...)], and digging through code for a non-computer scientist is, well, digging through code for a non-computer scientist, which is what I am. It is TIME-CONSUMING, hair-pulling nightmare. BUT, ALL of that having been said, it appears that I've been successful implementing a VERY behind-the-scenes method to stem the influx of spambots joining "the Gridiron", a modification to the code. [smiley=booya.gif] We should be back to a "normal" registration rate of "real" members as of 6:15 this evening (EST), member #9042, JustCheckin, which is me doing testing (actually, so is member #9040, Testman; one last spambot slid in there during my working on this today, member #9041). So, as long as things return to "normal" here, I think I've got them beaten, at least for now. The next 24 or so hours will be crucial. JustCheckin has been our newest member for almost THREE HOURS now,... so it's lookin' good... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Also, one of the great residual effects of this will be on member numbers. Day in and day out I am going to whittle our member count back down, and when I've got it back down roughly to our real members, I'm going to reset the member numbers! So, many of you will inherit (MUCH) better member numbers because of this, and, once again, we will have a member count that is more truly reflective of our community. Again, though, in terms of WORK on Steggie, whittling this back down from 9042 to roughly about 550, when the spambots began to come in droves, is going to take A LOT of TIME,... just to make it clear,... "MY" TIME. :'( NOTE, to the immediate skeptics out there,... there is NO quick, painless way to do this. I don't quite have to delete them one-by-one, but I will have to "tick" them one-by-one and in the process be making sure I don't delete any real accounts, and the batches really can't be done for much more than 25 or so accounts in a batch for fear of the system's becoming too busy and timing out and my efforts' being lost and, perhaps, even screwing things up because of partial deletions of account files because of the system's timing out. :-/ If my efforts here to stem the flow of spambot registrations are successful, I'll start the deletions of bogus accounts soon. So,... moving right along,... frankly speaking,... if you want to show your generosity and appreciation of my efforts (again), NOW would surely be a good time,... especially since the donations rate this year has been pretty lackluster as have the sign-ups over at StegsList.com (http://www.stegslist.com)!!! It's when I put HOURS,... nay,... DAYS into something like this behind the scenes when my skin gets really thin and hypersensivity toward appreciation and cheapness really kicks in,... especially when I'm DEFINITELY workin' yet again in the RED here this year. :-/ Again, NOW would be a great time to give just a little bit (more) back by either "Making a Donation (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/donate.htm)" or signing up over at "Steg's List (http://www.stegslist.com)". Don't look over your shoulders to see who's going to step up... Just look straight ahead in the mirror and you will clearly see a person in a position to step up and lend "the Gridiron" and the old Stegger a hand... [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 11th, 2007, 12:21am [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] Well, guys and gals, as of late last night [smiley=tired.gif] registration on "the Gridiron" is also protected by CAPTCHA spambot protection. You know... the squiggly alphanumeric image code thingamajig so prevelant these days. If you want to see it in action, go check out our registration page: http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=;action=register. (If you are wondering,... yes,... there are more difficult-to-read images that can be implemented... if need be. Right now, given our current "fame", I think the default images that came with the initial download were sufficient.) If you are interested in the technical and logistical details and, in general, just giving yourself greater perspective on (and, perhaps, a greater, more "substantive" :-/ appreciation of) it all, [smiley=steg.gif] visit here: http://www.boardmod.org/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=new_mods_beta;action=display;num=1186784585. I just can't wait to start whittling away those bogus spam accounts. I'm think I'm going to delete some tonight, in fact. Se la vie, spam losers!!! [smiley=wave.gif] Seriously, on the technical side of things, ridding ourselves of these some 8,500 accounts will REALLY cut down on the resources we're using. [smiley=yes.gif] on 08/08/07 at 21:07:21, StegRock wrote:
:-/ This is a BIG job done! [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] [smiley=shovel.gif] [smiley=builder.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 11th, 2007, 10:39pm Well, this is going to take forever,... but we're back down below 9,000 members... It's such a rush pushing that "Delete" button... BUT, this is going to take quite some time... :-/ |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 12th, 2007, 6:00pm What a GREAT feeling it was to see a REAL member join today!!! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Oct 21st, 2007, 6:30pm Offseason,... in-season,... the behind-the-scenes work on "the Gridiron", especially anymore, is constantly ongoing. We finally are back to a member count more reflective of the number of people who "truly" joined the site: 638. This is, of course, not our "active" member count, and I'm sure it's probably not absolutely precise. Those who made the cut were those that "looked", at a glance, albeit a somewhat circumspect one, "real". But, I had to bring it down from some roughly 9,500. It was a nightmare... But, that's how it broke down according to my eyeballing it. In any event, at this point everything is in sync, and member numbers have been reset according to the new "more correct" count. Check yours out,... [smiley=checkin.gif] especially you relative late-comers. It may have, probably has if you are the latter, changed. In any case, the next member to join will be member #638. Bottom line, it all has a more "real" feel to it, which makes me feel better (about the appearance of the site). [smiley=thumbsup.gif] ... [smiley=yes.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Feb 16th, 2008, 11:19pm Whew... :P Well, the '08 offseason on "the Gridiron" has, alas, officially commenced in earnest. All has officially been wrapped up for the '07 campaign. What a season it's been. The last two have been rough on me, I cannot tell a lie. I sincerely hope that things make a turn for the better this year. [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] [There will be more to come on that front on the "WHERE'S THE LIFE" thread when I can get around to it as well as relevant news on the personal front [smiley=cruisin.gif] (or should I say... [smiley=sailin.gif] then [smiley=cruisin.gif]) on the "Steegie-san" thread.] In any case, if any of yous notice any cliffhangers, things that I missed updating, mainly as regards listing the champions of the various leagues where I typically do so, PLEASE LET ME KNOW (right here). Thank you for another year on "the Gridiron". Here's [smiley=cheers.gif] to a smoother, more pain-free and progressive 2008. [smiley=pray.gif] |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jun 11th, 2008, 6:24am "the Gridiron" is about to get a facelift, quite literally, here very soon... |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by Philly on Jun 11th, 2008, 10:33am on 06/11/08 at 06:24:02, StegRock wrote:
Is that a good thing or a bad thing? |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jun 11th, 2008, 5:23pm We shall see... (Of course, I think it is... At least, I think it is very necessary.) |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Jun 12th, 2008, 5:51am This post is actually a continuation of sorts of a post I just made on the "Interested in becoming a Junior Correspondent" thread. If you haven't yet read that post, you probably want to do so so as to situate yourself. Here is a direct link to that page: http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=58;action=display;num=1091218912;start=125. All,... the scale-backs going on on "the Gridiron" are occurring for a variety of reasons, some specific as is partially the case with, say, the FF-specific team reports, some general and more philosophical as will be elaborated on here. It is time for us to go "back to the future", to recover the original, I like to think, brilliant "inside-out" idea of building a web site around a message-board forum instead of the bass-ackwards way it has evolved... as the free appendage which almost inevitably ends up taking over for the extant information web site for which it was just supposed to drive up traffic. The first step in accomplishing this, we got to get back to the old-school basics. We have got to focus our energies back on the boards, especially the big three, "the Red Zone", "between the 20's" and "the Sidelines". So, as this scale-back takes place in some areas of the site, there are aspects I hope we scale back up, old staples such as our "Red Zone PRIMED Players for the Week" and "Mirages of the Week" threads and "between the 20's MVP" and "Bitchin'" threads. More importantly, philosophically, the reality is that the message board fosters a sense of team and facilitates a team effort that, let's face it, a lot of the rest of the stuff does NOT. We need to get back to the stuff that was making us so successful, not necessarily in a numbersy way, WHICH IS JUST FINE, but rather in more substantive ways like in terms of camaraderie, commitment and loyalty, back during our first couple years of existence here on "the Gridiron". Additionally, the time is right for this scale-back, not just from the perspective of (the health of) the site as a whole, but also, I think, on a personal level for a lot of us. This will allow US ALL, and especially the old Stegger, doctor-and-daddy-to-be, to breath just a little easier this season. We need it! I DEFINITELY DO! That having been said, the phrase "throw in the towel" is not in my vocabulary. My coursework will, alas, be all done, anticipatively, in just two years, four semesters... At that point, I hope to start ratcheting things back UP!!! Having learned from experience, though, I would suspect, windfall aside, I will go about turning back up the volume more mindfully and slowly. I will only move the site as far ahead as finances permit, and I do not mean this just on a coarse level. I mean this more subtly, for example, better considering the proverbial "bigger picture" ramifications, both direct and indirect, of relying on a staff of volunteer writers. Another more concrete way of stating things, the steps will be very small until the MAGAZINE and my marketing plan can get off the ground. Don't worry... I'm not going to get back on that http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/YaBBImages/soapboxnew.gif box. But, again, windfall or, I suppose, my biting the bullet aside, the latter of which with a... [smiley=newbie.gif] on the way and full-time... [smiley=RIF.gif] & [smiley=howtoput.gif] for two more years is unlikely anytime soon, the core members of "the Gridiron" are going to need to buy into, so to speak, the power of pooling financial resources and step up financially if this thing is going to be taken to the next level... all aboard. If yous just wait for me to do it, it, frankly speaking, is probably not going to happen the way you "hope"/might "expect". (Okay, note to self,... step down... This is a waste of time. It's the past. It's why we are here,... explaining the scale-back.) In the meantime, thanks to the scale-backs, let's get back to the basics [smiley=wiseman.gif] and have some fun again... [smiley=booya.gif] ON THE BOARDS!!! |
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Title: Re: Offseason on "the Gridiron" Post by StegRock on Aug 20th, 2008, 9:35pm Guys and gals, just to clarify... in light of this offseason's "going-on"... I'm BURNT! AND, to make things worse, I'm presently hoeing a tough row in my personal life. At least for the time being, I simply just can't handle and shoulder the burden of all the extra free stuff... or "pay" stuff for that matter (i.e. StegsList.com),... that is beyond the three main boards and the regular features that take place on them like the "Red Zone PRIMED Players of the Week" threads. I just hope that you all are understanding me and "are understanding" of me and don't really think abandoning the site here when the going has gotten a little tough is a good option. :-/ I'm just tired... and have a tough nut to crack in my personal life. |
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