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(Message started by: StegRock on May 21st, 2003, 7:22pm)
Title: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on May 21st, 2003, 7:22pm
Anybody check out that interesting piece currently second on "The REAL Feed"?  Give it up for the Pottsville Maroons, or should I say, don't give up on them! ;) They gonna' get themselves a long overdue Championship!  Where can I get some souvenirs, or should I say "memorabilia"? [smiley=laugh.gif] What is up with that team name, though? [smiley=hmmmm.gif]
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Philly on May 22nd, 2003, 9:10am
I guess it's not that much different than the Cincinnati Reds, or the St. Louis Blues, or the Syracuse Orangemen, or the Cleveland Browns...  or did you mean the Pottsville part?
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on May 22nd, 2003, 12:55pm
The colors red, blue, orange (basic spectral colors) and brown are in your basic Crayola crayons small set of like 10 colors.  To get maroon, I think you have to jump up to their 96-crayon box. ::) I suppose my (rhetorical) question was more just poking fun at the lack of creativity that went into team-naming back in the day, not that some of the old team names aren't cool.  It is just that this does seem to be an area where the evolution of the human mind is very well illustrated, uh, I think. [smiley=uh.gif] ;D
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on May 22nd, 2003, 1:10pm
What's a Supersonic?
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on May 22nd, 2003, 1:30pm
It is the short (slangish) term for a supersonic jet, one that can fly greater than the speed of sound.  "Supersonics" is actually the name for the science of that.
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by DirkDiggler on May 23rd, 2003, 4:05pm

on 05/22/03 at 13:30:12, StegRock wrote:
It is the short (slangish) term for a supersonic jet, one that can fly greater than the speed of sound.  "Supersonics" is actually the name for the science of that.



To elaborate further, Seattle got Supersonics as a name based on the huge aviation industry in the Seattle area.  (Namely Boeing).
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on May 23rd, 2003, 4:27pm
Thanks, now how about this?

Cleveland Cavaliers ?
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on May 23rd, 2003, 6:00pm
Come on, KJ 76, that's easy!  Open up your dictionary, kiddo!  I'm not going to do your homework for you on that one!
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by DirkDiggler on May 23rd, 2003, 8:23pm

on 05/23/03 at 18:00:44, StegRock wrote:
Come on, KJ 76, that's easy!  Open up your dictionary, kiddo!  I'm not going to do your homework for you on that one!

Gotta agree with Steg on that one.....

To head off any more questions...

76ers because the of the decaration of independence in 1776 was signed in Philly.

Rockets cause NASA is in Houston.

Heat because it is hot in Miami.

Pistons(a car part) cause they make cars in Detroit.

Lakers cause they are originally from Minnesota and it is "the land of 10,000 lakes.

Jazz cause they are originally from New Orleans and Jazz is very popular there.

Spurs cause they are in Texas. Cowboys wore spurs.  Cowboys lived in Texas.

Nuggets cause their is gold in 'dem 'dare mountains in  Denver area.

If you have any more, please feel free to ask.  But at least make them challenging.  [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]

TY
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by BarnabyWilde on May 23rd, 2003, 8:35pm
Wasn't Bugs Bunny the Maroons mascot?

You know Bugs's famous quote:

"What a Maroon!"
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on May 24th, 2003, 12:17am

on 05/23/03 at 20:23:12, DirkDiggler wrote:
Gotta agree with Steg on that one.....

To head off any more questions...

76ers because the of the decaration of independence in 1776 was signed in Philly.

Rockets cause NASA is in Houston.

Heat because it is hot in Miami.

Pistons(a car part) cause they make cars in Detroit.

Lakers cause they are originally from Minnesota and it is "the land of 10,000 lakes.

Jazz cause they are originally from New Orleans and Jazz is very popular there.

Spurs cause they are in Texas. Cowboys wore spurs.  Cowboys lived in Texas.

Nuggets cause their is gold in 'dem 'dare mountains in  Denver area.

If you have any more, please feel free to ask.  But at least make them challenging.  [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]

TY


I knew those, I asked for Cavaliers... not those... !!!!

Steg, dictionary? What's that?
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on May 24th, 2003, 12:40pm

on 05/24/03 at 00:17:50, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:
Steg, dictionary? What's that?


I'd say go look it up in the dictionary, but...  That sure is some conundrum your stuck in! [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif]

On a side note, you all should see how long of a definition the word "dictionary" has in the dictionary, at least Webster's!  Seems a little unnecessary, wouldn't ya' think? [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] It is almost like they should just tape a cyanide capsule to where the definition for "dictionary" should be and just say, "Look, if you're REALLY looking this word up,... good for you!  This "special" definition is found, or should we say revealed (nudge, nudge ;) ), by downing the adjacently-placed pill.  Not only will you be doing yourself a favor, but you will be doing us all one!  Enjoy the education and thanks for using Webster's!" [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif]
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by DirkDiggler on May 24th, 2003, 3:49pm

on 05/23/03 at 16:27:47, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:
Thanks, now how about this?

Cleveland Cavaliers ?



Maybe cause they all drive Chevys?  You know...the Cavalier?   [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Philly on May 24th, 2003, 7:25pm
I guess I'll ask...

What is a Knickerbocker?
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on May 24th, 2003, 7:44pm

on 05/24/03 at 19:25:51, Philly wrote:
I guess I'll ask...

What is a Knickerbocker?


That's a reasonable one to inquire about.  A "Knickerbocker" is a native (though not Native American) or resident of the State of New York.  Strictly used, it denotes a native or resident of New York with Dutch descent.  Also, knickerbockers, or knickers, are those short, loosely-fitted old-fashioned pants that men wore back in the teens through the 1930's, roughly.
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on May 25th, 2003, 12:28am
A-Ha I got a good one... New York Mets?
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Philly on May 25th, 2003, 11:24am
The Mets are short for the Metropolitans... and NY is the largest metropolitan area in the US.
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by BarnabyWilde on May 25th, 2003, 3:51pm
Here are  a few I never knew what they were:

What is a Canuck?

How about a Hoya?
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Cirrinone on May 25th, 2003, 4:02pm
A Canuck is a Canadian. Not sure about Hoya though...
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by WeinkeMaster on May 25th, 2003, 8:50pm
Hoyas were originally named The Stonewalls. I think Hoya means stone or rock in Latin. All students were required to study Latin, so they cheered in Latin. Hoya was yelled so much, they just took the name eventually. Not sure of the dates though.

Anybody remember the old riddle about naming all the NCAA team mascots that don't end with an
"S". There's only a few.

I'll provide the first one:

Orange men
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Philly on May 25th, 2003, 8:53pm
Stanford Cardinal
St. John's Red Storm
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Walker Boh on May 25th, 2003, 10:40pm
Massachusetts Minutemen  ;D

I'll be thinking about this all week....
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on May 26th, 2003, 1:08am
Walker, don't look at this if you want to keep pondering!! ;) You, living in Chicago, can definitely get ONE of these and probably both of the fairly obvious TWO!  Just think for a sec!



Notre Dame Fighting Irish
University of Illinois Fighting Illini

Well, I'll let you guys (try to) figure out the last answer(s)!   One is a major, well-known school that is usually part of this riddle (as long as the riddle teller remembers it), but is often never gotten; the other is a totally obscure one that is actually only partially a Division I-A school (only 1 or 2 or so of its athletic programs are Division I-A) and is usually not even included in this riddle.  If you want hints, feel free to ask! ;D
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Cirrinone on May 26th, 2003, 10:03am
Well... the University of Alabama Crimson Tide. Then there's the... Tulsa Golden Hurricane. And umm... Tulane Green Wave. That's about it for big schools I THINK, some smaller D-IAA, how about... Rhode Island Anchormen (I wouldn't have any idea what that was if I didn't drive through Providence a few times on the way to Maine), Dartmouth Big Green (I may even be off there... I know I heard somethin like that somewhere, it could be Big Blue or Big Red but for some reason Big Green is sticking), there's the Bucknell Bison, William & Mary Tribe (my UMAINE pounded them ;)), and there's the Hofstra Pride (who my Black Bears ALSO pounded...)

I think I got most of them... it's early though.. Bet I missed the "well-known school" Steg is talking of. Haha.
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on May 26th, 2003, 1:26pm
Okay, there is always the P. U. Golden Shower! [smiley=LMFAO.gif]

But, really, I must digress...  My good friend there, WeinkeMaster, misrepresented the riddle and when I read Cirrinone's answers, in particular, it dawned on me.  Actually, WM's very first answer was invalid according the what the riddle really is.  The riddle is...  What NCAA Division I-A team nicknames do not end in an "s" AND do not have a color in them?  The answers:  Syracuse Orangemen, St. John's Red Storm (formerly Redmen), University of Alabama Crimson Tide, et. al., are not valid answers as they all contain colors.

The correct list thus far is:

Stanford University Cardinal
University of Massachusetts Minutemen
University of Notre Dame Fighting Irish
University of Illinois Fighting Illini

Now, given this realization, I don't think my last answer (or two) is (are) the last answer(s).  If my memory serves me correctly, there are seven answers:  the four above, the one big one I am thinking of, and two others... I think.  I do not think, though they pass the test, that any of them are the ones Cirrinone brought up, Hofstra Pride, Bucknell Bison or William & Mary Tribe (or Rhode Island Anchormen, which is not URI, though, as I know they are the Rams), as (I think) they are all strictly D-IAA (But, are Hofstra and William & Mary D-IA basketball?  That would make them partially D-IA!), or for that matter, the other one I know, although it could be as I am fairly certain it is a partial D-IA school.  For argument's sake, let's say that both of the ones in my head are (as I stated, one I know is); I still think there is one more we would be missing. [smiley=wiseguy.gif]

Good luck in the search, men! [smiley=onit.gif]
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Cirrinone on May 26th, 2003, 3:41pm
OOPS!!... I didn't know it couldn't have a color in it and I didn't know it HAD to be D-IA.. Sorry!
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on May 26th, 2003, 4:15pm
Jon, please, nothing to be sorry about!  With the way the riddle was originally (mis)represented, your answers were right on and I still think Hofstra and William & Mary may be partial Division I-A schools and, thus, added to the answers list.  Can anybody confirm that?

Also, I will bring my post which explains the riddle correctly and where we are at in solving it over to this page...


on 05/26/03 at 13:26:55, StegRock wrote:
Okay, there is always the P. U. Golden Shower! [smiley=LMFAO.gif]

But, really, I must digress...  My good friend there, WeinkeMaster, misrepresented the riddle and when I read Cirrinone's answers, in particular, it dawned on me.  Actually, WM's very first answer was invalid according the what the riddle really is.  The riddle is...  What NCAA Division I-A team nicknames do not end in an "s" AND do not have a color in them?  The answers:  Syracuse Orangemen, St. John's Red Storm (formerly Redmen), University of Alabama Crimson Tide, et. al., are not valid answers as they all contain colors.

The correct list thus far is:

Stanford University Cardinal
University of Massachusetts Minutemen
University of Notre Dame Fighting Irish
University of Illinois Fighting Illini

Now, given this realization, I don't think my last answer (or two) is (are) the last answer(s).  If my memory serves me correctly, there are seven answers:  the four above, the one big one I am thinking of, and two others... I think.  I do not think, though they pass the test, that any of them are the ones Cirrinone brought up, Hofstra Pride, Bucknell Bison or William & Mary Tribe (or Rhode Island Anchormen, which is not URI, though, as I know they are the Rams), as (I think) they are all strictly D-IAA (But, are Hofstra and William & Mary D-IA basketball?  That would make them partially D-IA!), or for that matter, the other one I know, although it could be as I am fairly certain it is a partial D-IA school.  For argument's sake, let's say that both of the ones in my head are (as I stated, one I know is); I still think there is one more we would be missing. [smiley=wiseguy.gif]

Good luck in the search, men! [smiley=onit.gif]
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by DirkDiggler on May 26th, 2003, 4:58pm
Bill and Mary is a division I-A school.  They play in the CAA and are a rival to my school(which no one has probably heard of).....George Mason University.
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on May 26th, 2003, 5:02pm

on 05/26/03 at 16:58:52, DirkDiggler wrote:
UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI HURRICANE


Go CANES!

But, I guess we can add William & Mary to the fold! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Thanks, Dirk! [smiley=bow.gif]

How 'bout Hofstra, fellas?
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by DirkDiggler on May 26th, 2003, 5:02pm
Well...this one can be debated:

University of Miami Hurricane

(THis post was originally ABOVE Steg's post, but i went to modit instead removed it)
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on May 26th, 2003, 5:10pm
Double D, I am afraid to tell you it is not debatable at all.  Go to the official site:

http://hurricanesports.ocsn.com/.

It is Hurricanes!  At any rate, NONE of the teams on this list leave any room for doubt or debate!  They all clearly and indubitably meet the requirements of the riddle!

Continued good luck in your search, fellas! [smiley=borg.gif]
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on May 26th, 2003, 5:17pm
Yep, got to it before I did... It's Hurricanes...
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Philly on May 27th, 2003, 12:44pm
Marshall University - Thundering Herd

Naval Academy - Midshipmen

Georgia Tech - Ramblin' Wreck (the other official nickname is the Yellow Jackets)

North Carolina State - Wolfpack
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on May 27th, 2003, 12:45pm
[smiley=coach.gif]-"PHILLY, where did your first post here today go?  You had the one BIG one we are missing!  P-H-I-L-L-Y!  Damn it, that was it!" [smiley=drip.gif]
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on May 27th, 2003, 1:09pm
YES, okay (I see what you did, you consolidator you)!  Philly, not only did you get the one I was looking for, the Naval Academy Midshipmen, but you also got the one that bugged me all yesterday and today, the North Carolina State Wolfpack (fuck, that one is pretty obvious), AND you brought another fairly big one into the fold, the Marshall University Thundering Herd, which I do not think was in the riddle when it was told to me.  AWESOME! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] (As for Georgia Tech... :-/ ...their official team nickname on their site is the Yellow Jackets... including them would be like including the Fordham Flash while their official team nick is the Rams, I think... again, nothing on this list is debatable at all.)

Anyway, any word on Hofstra's Division IA status?  I believe they are D-IA at least for basketball, no?  That would put them on the list.

So, here is where we "officially" stand and I will now add in the other one I am thinking of...

Stanford University Cardinal
University of Massachusetts Minutemen
University of Notre Dame Fighting Irish
University of Illinois Fighting Illini
North Carolina State Wolfpack
Naval Academy Midshipmen
Marshall University Thundering Herd
College of William & Mary Tribe
University of Wisconsin at Green Bay Phoenix
??Hofstra University Pride??

THAT IS AN AWESOME LIST!  Final confirmation on Hofstra, which I don't know about, and I think we got ourselves SOME riddle to go away with... an even 10! [smiley=yes.gif]
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on May 27th, 2003, 1:30pm
O-k-a-y!  I went ahead and found out about Hofstra.  Yes, they are a partial D-IA school, which puts them on our list, giving us a nice and tidy even 10 as it stands: [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Stanford University Cardinal
University of Massachusetts Minutemen
University of Notre Dame Fighting Irish
University of Illinois Fighting Illini
North Carolina State Wolfpack
Naval Academy Midshipmen
Marshall University Thundering Herd
College of William & Mary Tribe
University of Wisconsin at Green Bay Phoenix
Hofstra University Pride

BOY, that makes for a GREAT riddle for gatherings of family, friends, co-workers, etc., etc.  Enjoy! [smiley=lickinmychops.gif] [smiley=havinablast.gif]
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on Oct 13th, 2003, 11:42pm
Man, back to the original topic hereof, the Pottsville Maroons are getting ALL KINDS of press on Monday Night Football tonight!  I still don't know the verdict on the original issue brought up herein, but I think I'm gonna' hit up their web site and find out... and get me some Maroons gear, too!
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Noey21 on Oct 14th, 2003, 1:01am
I just read through this post and there are two incorrect facts in here.

1.  The Georgetown Hoyas..Hoya I read somewhere a long time ago is an Egyptian Dog  (thus they have a dog as a mascot).

2. The Stanford Cardinal is the color.  That is why it is not the Cardinals.

Also, just a side note....in the begining the St. Louis Cardinals were also after the color but not any longer.
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by BarnabyWilde on Oct 14th, 2003, 1:15am

This is right off the GU website:

What is a Hoya?

Many years ago, when all Georgetown students were required to study Greek and Latin, the University's teams were nicknamed "The Stonewalls." It is suggested that a student, using Greek and Latin terms, started the cheer "Hoya Saxa!", which translates into "What Rocks!" The name proved popular and the term "Hoyas" was eventually adopted for all Georgetown teams.
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on Oct 14th, 2003, 1:48am
Anyway, this is a FUN thread overall.  The riddle is great, notwithstanding some dubious details.

As for the issue of the thread, I am guessing the Maroons were awarded with the Championship.  I think it was the 1925 Championship that was in question and, though their web site isn't opening, according to the Yahoo! search I did, it said that the Pottsville Maroons were the 1925 Champions.  GO MAROONS... even if it is a bit belated! ;D
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Philly on Oct 14th, 2003, 10:38am

on 10/13/03 at 23:42:46, StegRock wrote:
Man, back to the original topic hereof, the Pottsville Maroons are getting ALL KINDS of press on Monday Night Football tonight!  I still don't know the verdict on the original issue brought up herein, but I think I'm gonna' hit up their web site and find out... and get me some Maroons gear, too!


How silly did Madden and Michaels look during this issue?  They had never even heard of the Pottsville Maroons (despite the championship debate from last spring) and weren't even sure where Pottsville was.
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by StegRock on Oct 29th, 2003, 2:09pm
You guys get a load of all the press the "Pottsville Maroons" are getting these days.  They were hypin' them up on MNF yet again.  I don't know...  With Kanell at the helm of my Donkies right now, I'm startin' to take to these Maroons.  I think we got to get these guys reinstated.  Hell, if I ever become a billionaire (ain't happenin' [smiley=nono.gif] ) and was looking to blow a little cash (that probably wouldn't happen either, actually [smiley=angel.gif] ), I would look to bring the NFL Maroons back to Pottsville.
[offtopic]I would surely do that rather than some "gay fest" in Sardinia.  What a bunch of mid-life crisis homos!

By the way, Primer, Chump Z, you work for Tyco, no?  Were you guys invited?  I thought Primer was the guy with the wings!  Stacked, but queer as a three-dollar bill! [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] (The "Comedy Club Gang" shows up everywhere!  They're relentless!)[/offtopic]

P.S. (Sorry 'bout bustin' on you, PT.  It was you or CZ and I know you a little better.  I got one comin' from ya, though, I know! [smiley=nervous.gif] )
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by Noey21 on Nov 1st, 2003, 12:38am
[smiley=Imwithstupid.gif]

[offtopic]  My orignal post about a Hoya I must have posted that in my sleep...the definition i gave for for a Silluki (sp)  [/offtopic]
Title: Re: GO Maroons!
Post by DirkDiggler on Nov 2nd, 2003, 10:22am
AND THERE IS A CONCLUSION!!!  

So sad for Pottsville.  They were robbed!!  This was on ESPN on Halloween:


Friday, October 31, 2003

POTTSVILLE, Pa. -- They won the game, but the Pottsville Maroons still won't get the championship trophy.

People in Pottsville were disappointed to hear NFL owners voted 30-2 on Thursday against reopening the 1925 files and studying whether the NFL title should be awarded to the Maroons.

The Pottsville team beat the Chicago Cardinals that year in a game that was billed as the championship. But the Maroons later were disqualified by league president Joe Carr for playing an unauthorized exhibition game against a Notre Dame All-Star team.

Thursday's decision came despite a campaign by the city of Pottsville, a legion of supporters in Schuylkill County, and lobbying by Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell.

The NFL said it will award Pottsville the Daniel Reeves Pioneer Award in Canton, Ohio, in August in recognition of Pottsville's role as one of the NFL's pioneer communities.

``The award is just something to keep us quiet,'' said Nicholas A. Barbetta, chairman of the Pottsville Maroons Memorial Committee. ``It's like winning a brand new car, then they turn around and give you a broken down bicycle.''

A resolution issued by NFL owners stated that ``the membership recognizes that the 1925 Pottsville Maroons were a championship caliber NFL team, appreciates the city of Pottsville's pioneer support of the NFL since the earliest days of professional football, and understands the continuing belief of Pottsville's citizens that the city be recognized as the home of the 1925 champions.''

``It was a championship caliber team that ran into an unfortunate conflict with the league's rules,'' NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue said. ``At this late date, it was impossible to overturn.''

Pittsburgh Steelers owner Dan Rooney and Philadelphia Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie cast the lone votes in favor of the Maroons' request.

Pottsville leaders said they were disappointed.

``We thought the NFL would embrace the opportunity to right such a grievous injustice. It's a sad day for a community that has waited long enough to claim its place in the annals of football history,'' said Ian H. Lipton, chairman of the Pottsville Bicentennial Committee, which wanted to see the title awarded in time for the city's bicentennial in 2006.

Lipton has worked closely with Rendell in that quest.

The course of events that led to Thursday's action began in May when Rendell presented a proposal at the spring NFL meeting in Philadelphia. He suggested that the city pay a $10,000 fine in exchange for a share of the title.

Kate Phillips, Rendell's press secretary, said the governor had done some last-minute lobbying on behalf of the Maroons late Wednesday night.

``It was disheartening for the governor because he believed the Maroons deserve the recognition for their championship season,'' she said. ``He will do all he can to help any future action to get the title back to Pottsville.''



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