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(Message started by: StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2003, 3:32am)

Title: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2003, 3:32am
In my ongoing effort to determine if/how I am going to eventually transform "the Bleachers" from a sticky thread into a board, I want to give these topical, "get to know each other better" threads a try.  I am really looking to observe the substantiveness of the exchanges, how well they stay on topic, as well as the digressions that take place.

And, please, guys, do not take this whole thing the wrong way.  I am not condescending to anyone here, although my didactic side as an educator is probably coming into play here in my taking this "organizing an activity-type" approach.  Again, my purpose here is to see how well we go about breaking down the inherent wall between us in this on-line environment with the establishment of "the Bleachers" in mind, not to see if I want to open up a new "movie ratings" web site and forum.  So, without further ado, let's see how this goes...

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Granted, I am not a huge movie buff, but when I am really floored by a cinematic experience, I REALLY appreciate it.  Below are my top-5 favorite movies of all-time.  I consider the choices quite personal and unique to me.  So, I would 1) like to know if any of you out there share my sentiments about any of these films because, if so, to me that is "connecting/making a real connection", and 2) like for you all to put some real thought into it and give your own top-whatever list, BUT I do NOT want this to become just a thread of "top-10" posts.  I mean if we are just going to post lists, then let's just head back to "the Red Zone" and post our lists of top receivers for '03 or whatever as this is not a movie-discussion site.  The point of this is to get to know each other better via a discussion about movies, NOT get to know movies better by discussing them!  What I really want to see is our reactions to each other's posts as that is how we will "come together" more substantively.  Let's "converse with" each other, not just "talk at" each other.  With that in mind, I look forward to seeing if anybody shares in my absolute enjoyment of the following flicks (I must admit, for better or for worse, all of these movies are "of my time")...

#5 - Lean On Me
This is the movie about a black high school principal, played by Morgan Freeman, who, by way of tough love and against all odds, turned around Patternson High School in New Jersey from a drug-infested, violent school to a quality educational environment.  This is a great "real-world", gritty story of triumph under adversity.  This movie held a great pace and had me in a puddle in the end.  For those of you who have really gotten to know me and my personality, my liking this movie should totally make sense.

#4 - The Matrix
Yea, Keanu Reeves notwithstanding.  Frankly speaking, special effects and action movies are not my thing, at least not at this level of consideration.  But, this is one of my favorites of all time because it really did have me going away thinking.  I really dug how it tied in eastern philosophy by way of the "Oracles".  Ultimately, overall, just a really wild concept that worked for me.  To me, it was like a more intelligent, even intellectual, version of "Terminator", a fine movie in its own right mind you, but nowhere near as cerebrally-stimulating as this movie.

#3 - Planes, Trains and Automobiles
Steve Martin and John Candy have never been better (The Jerk notwithstanding).  This movie had me bawling with laughter, but it wasn't those tears that put this movie on my all-time favorites list.  It was the box of Kleenex I needed during the end sequence that does.  My eyes are welling up and I am getting a lump in my throat right now just thinking about how the ending goes after Candy gets off the subway and Martin starts reflecting back on the silly and harrowing times they spent together and "putting it together".  One of the single most touching scenes in movie history, in my humble opinion.  After "driving" you to hysterics throughout, this gut-punch in the end leaves you emotionally spent, in a good way.

THE TOP TIER
#2 - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
This movie came out the same (Academy Awards calendar) year as The Matrix, actually.  It should have won the "Best Movie of the Year" award over the VERY pedestrian Gladiator and would have if $$$ were not in play and international films got more respect.  You could just chalk my appreciation of this movie up to my far-east Asian connection, but that would not be fair to this magnificent film.  This movie takes you on a wondrous journey that so unexpectedly comes full-circle.  You are moved both mentally and emotionally throughout despite the subtitles, which is a testament to its greatness, and the ending is absolutely magical and sheer brilliance.  I was left in awe.

#1 - Glory
This movie is really in a class by itself in my world.  Whenever anyone asks me the question, "What is your favorite movie?", the answer invariably and without even a moment's hesitation is Glory.  This was Matthew Broderick's first real dramatic role and best performance of his career and Denzel Washington's glorious big-budget movie debut; all backed up by the solid veteran Morgan Freeman.  No movie touches on the true American spirit (of compassion and heroism) more accurately and, moreover, with such a poignant backdrop, that of our darkest hour, the Civil War.  You are given no lull during this three-hour epic.  No words I will write here will do this film justice.  All I can say is be prepared for a good sinus clean-out and eye flush when you pop this one in.

SO, have any of you been "touched" by any of these movies like me?  Do any of you "relate to" any of these movies the way I do?

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Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by BarnabyWilde on Jun 23rd, 2003, 4:14am
I have 2 lists...one is my corny list:

1. Commando
2. Smokey and the Bandit
3. Vacation
4. Bachelor Party
5. Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure

Now, My REAL LIST

5. Saving Private Ryan: Great, great movie. I am a big Tom Hanks fan, and a WW2 history buff as well.

4. Batman: I am also a huge Superhero freak (as some of the QFLers can atest to) and Batman was a killer flick. Jack was fantastic as the Joker, as was Michael Keaton as Batman. So far, the only movie I ever stood in line early for.

3. Raiders of the Lost Ark:Greatest action/adventure movie of all time!! Can wait for it to come out on DVD later this year!

2. The Natural: My favorite sports movie ever! I absolutely love the ending scene when Roy Hobbs knocks the lights out with his game ending home run. To bad he struck out in the book...

1. Tombstone: Classic. I love westerns, and Tombstone had it all: Gunfighting, drinking, gambling, plus a romance to boot. Val Kilmer played a great Doc Holiday, and Kurt Russel was also very good as Wyatt Earp. Great cast, including Bill Paxton, Sam Elliott, Dana Delany, Powers Booth, Michael Biehemeny (sp?), Billy Zane and Jason Priestly.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by bgsgfan on Jun 23rd, 2003, 11:48am

on 06/23/03 at 03:32:04, StegRock wrote:
#4 - The Matrix
Yea, Keanu Reeves notwithstanding.  Frankly speaking, special effects and action movies are not my thing, at least not at this level of consideration.  But, this is one of my favorites of all time because it really did have me going away thinking.  I really dug how it tied in eastern philosophy by way of the "Oracles".  Ultimately, overall, just a really wild concept that worked for me.  To me, it was like a more intelligent, even intellectual, version of "Terminator", a fine movie in its own right mind you, but nowhere near as cerebrally-stimulating as this movie.



The Matrix was so good in so many ways.  The effects are still out of this workd.  The whole concept behind it is a great sci-fi concept and well depicted.  The action sequences were extremely well done as well.  From watching the DVD extras, the whole feel of the action sequences emulated many Eastern martial arts movies.  If you are looking for great dialogue, go somewhere else (but the Wachovski (sp?) brothers openly say they were not after that type of movie).

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2003, 11:59am
Well, I can comment a little bit here...


on 06/23/03 at 04:14:49, BarnabyWilde wrote:
5. Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure


Funny flick that I can appreciate, duuuude!  It got a serious cult following.  Nothing all time for me, but... neat choice!


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4. Batman: I am also a huge Superhero freak (as some of the QFLers can atest to) and Batman was a killer flick. Jack was fantastic as the Joker, as was Michael Keaton as Batman. So far, the only movie I ever stood in line early for.


Have to admit, I was REALLY disappointed by this movie overall.  I actually thought Jack Nicholson of Neptune, New Jersey, and my favorite actor, saved the flick.  In hindsight, it might have been all the over-hype beforehand that ruined it for me, but, whatever, I left the theater, well, under-impressed.


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3. Raiders of the Lost Ark:Greatest action/adventure movie of all time!! Can wait for it to come out on DVD later this year!

2. The Natural: My favorite sports movie ever! I absolutely love the ending scene when Roy Hobbs knocks the lights out with his game ending home run. To bad he struck out in the book


Regarding these two, I am going to just generally say that I too was very entertained by them both.  Wouldn't be on my personal all-time favorites list, but would get consideration if I ever compiled an objective-ish top-50 classics list.

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Finally, guys, PLEASE read my first post thoroughly, especially the first three paragraphs that come before my list, two of which are above the divide line, one of which is below it.  Thank you! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2003, 12:30pm
Guys, sloooow down!  Take your time!  I said above that I really am looking for the "substance" of what goes on on this thread and "substance" is not acheived without thought.  Do you know how much thought I put into my top-5?  Granted, I may have a looser schedule than most of you, but, make no mistakes, I am busy as shit.  But, I did put probably a good two weeks of "on-and-off" thought into this.  I want us to get to know each other, not wade through lists of movies that many people, perhaps even you yourself, just "generally" like, moreover without (somewhat extended) commentary that is specific to YOU.  PLEASE READ THOSE FIRST THREE PARAGRAPHS OF MY FIRST POST!  Anyway, if you are listing like 30 movies without pithy commentary on any of them, including movies you can't name AND in the process forgetting your FAVORITE movie, well,...  Sit back!  Ponder a moment!  Savor the moment!  I know when putting together my list I thought to myself if I can't even name the movie without looking it up, then it just ain't one of my favorites of all time.  And, as for forgetting a movie, you NEVER forget your favorite movie.  So, take it easy!  Enjoy the opportunity to think it through and share a piece of yourself with a group of guys eager to get to know you better.  I want people to "experience" each other on these threads, not just rush to post. :)

Title: Re: #Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2003, 12:45pm
(This is just hyperbole to exemplify my point so we can have the "productive" discussion I am hoping for.) [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif]

#5 Casablanca - Don't know it!

#4 Wizard of Oz - Kind of sucked!

#3 Gone with the Wind - Basically sucked!

#2 Beyond the Door - Really sucked!

#1 Ghandi - Don't know it!

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This is not what I had intended.  I don't want you to rate my movies or anybody's in some sort of "obligatory", "thumbs up/thumbs down" fashion.  Unless you were especially moved by a particular movie in one direction or another, positively or negatively, DON'T respond.  This was starting to become a movie/movie-rankings discussion rather than a "getting to know each other by way of talking about movies" discussion.  THAT IS NOT WHAT I WANT.  I am not looking to play "Siskel and Ebert"; I am looking for us to substantively share our thoughts in a considerate and thoughtful manner, not just obligatorily and triflingly point out, "I loved it," or, "I hated it," with regards to every movie on someone's list.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by Philly on Jun 23rd, 2003, 2:11pm
#5 - The Usual Suspects - A fantastic story that has you guessing right up until the very end.  Kevin Spacey was tremendous.  Benicio del Toro (as Fenster) was hilarious.

#4 - American Beauty - Kevin Spacey again.  Brilliantly acted.  One of the best performances I've seen.  Incredible writing.  Supporting cast was amazing.  Absolutely creepy story that, at times, seems so real.

#3B - Goodfellas - Ray Liotta walks you through the life of Henry Hill, whose character development is among the best I've ever seen.  There are so many unforgettable scenes.  The scene with Pesci and Liotta ("You think I'm a clown?") is both terrifying and hilarious.

#3A - Toy Story 2 - Even better than the first.  Pixar does a bang-up job with the animation (as usual).  The characters, who we already know, are even better the second time around.

#2B - To Have and Have Not - Most of you are probably unfamiliar with this movie.  Legendary director Howard Hawks bet Ernest Hemingway that he could make a great movie from one of Hemingway's worst novels.  Howard Hawks took Humphrey Bogart and resurrected/tweaked his Rick character from Casablanca and introduced the world to 19-year old Lauren Bacall.  The chemistry was outstanding (and led to the marriage of Bogie and Bacall).  The story is on par with Casablanca (IMHO), but the characters and the directing take it a step beyond.

#2A - The Breakfast Club - John Hughes at his finest.  This is the quintessential 80s flick.  Judd Nelson's performance as John Bender was magnificent.  Yeah, the movie was probably over-the-top at times, but at the core of the movie is what every Brat Pack movie was essentially about: recognizing that no matter how society may label people, there is a common thread (insecurity) within all of us.

#1 - Dead Poets Society - This is the former HS English teacher in me with this selection.  Robin Williams is able to deftly combine his comedic genius with a truly dramatic role.  The supporting cast (Ethan Hawke, Robert Sean Leonard, etc.) is brilliant.  This movie touched me on so many levels.  The cinematography and accompanying film score was tremendous.  I love the fact that a teacher was so able to inspire his students to greatness and the loyalty they show to him as a result is inspirational and tear-worthy.


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I tried to pare my list down as much as possible, but I am a huge movie buff and my top 5 list changes depending on the mood I'm in.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by bgsgfan on Jun 23rd, 2003, 4:38pm
Philly, 3 of these movies you stole right out of my heart.

American Beauty - I love the symbolism of the rose(s) (and petals).  The use of color in that movie is awesome - and very similar in that way to The Sixth Sense.  Generally, I like any movie with Spacey in it, but this may be his personal best.  The characters in American Beauty are out of this world: all of them are so beautifully alone and unique and identifiable.  I have watched this movie over 10 times and pick something else up each time.

The Usual Suspects - this too is an excellent movie with a wonderful twist.  Not as high on my list as American Beauty, but a wonderful film with (IMHO) the greatest modern day actor, Kevin Spacey.

Dead Poets Society - I cried.  I haven't seen this movie in years and remember little, except it touched me like few movies have.  A great movie and one of a handful of movies that show Robin Williams is more than a comic (Insomnia, One Hour Photo, and Good Will hunting are 3 others).

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 23rd, 2003, 5:32pm

on 06/23/03 at 16:38:10, bgsgfan wrote:
Philly, 3 of these movies you stole right out of my heart.

American Beauty - I love the symbolism of the rose(s) (and petals).  The use of color in that movie is awesome - and very similar in that way to The Sixth Sense.  Generally, I like any movie with Spacey in it, but this may be his personal best.  The characters in American Beauty are out of this world: all of them are so beautifully alone and unique and identifiable.  I have watched this movie over 10 times and pick something else up each time.
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I swear the wife (Annette Benning) was modeled after my mother -in -law.      This is the woman who told me I was STARTING  to become part of the family after being married 3 years.  This is the woman who told me my wife didn;t get a job because of her new hair cut, the same woman who told me I wasn't good enough for her daughter because of my job at the time, etc.....

It is a CLASSIC!!!!

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 23rd, 2003, 5:43pm
OK--

I am going to take some time on this one.  It is hard to define my absolute favorite, so I will have to just list 5.  I will list one  now.....

Sgt.  York--  Classic gray and white movie starring Gary Cooper based on the REAL Sgt.  York.  (yes, the man who the tanks are named after.)  It traces his roots from a wild hillbillian Tennesseean to a religous objector in World War I.   His petition was turned down and tells the story of how he single handily captured over 100 German soldiers and became famous.  

The movie examines religion vs patriotism and how becoming famous doesn't change a man.  Classic movie with a subtle sense of humor.  

The movie is out only in VHS and I believe will be released in DVD this fall.  It is one of the few movies I own.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2003, 6:05pm

on 06/23/03 at 14:11:35, Philly wrote:
#5 - The Usual Suspects - A fantastic story that has you guessing right up until the very end.  Kevin Spacey was tremendous.  Benicio del Toro (as Fenster) was hilarious.


This is evidently a movie I gotta' re-see.  I don't know where my head was when I saw it; I know I was in Korea with my wife and even remember the theater, but I remember leaving thinking it was just whatever.  It was VERY popular there as it evidently was here.  I must have missed something.  From what I hear about it, I will probably go away from a second viewing with a more enlightened take.  I will say this.  To me, it seemed like a less-hardcore Reservoir Dogs with a cult following along the lines of Fargo.  As I mentioned, I wasn't in the States at the time.  How off is that impression?


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#2A - The Breakfast Club

#1 - Dead Poets Society


These two are classics.  For me, these would get filed in that "big" group with The Natural and Raiders of the Lost Ark from BW's list above.

I will say this, though, regarding DPS, I totally get where you are coming from as a (former) teacher, BUT emotionally the suicide was, though appropriate to the story, over-the-top for me; I didn't shed much of a tear honestly and as you can infer from my write-ups above, I cry pretty easily if I am genuinely moved.  Also, based on my background, it was a little hard for me to identify with these twits in that cave doin' whatever it was they were doin'.  In hindsight, they kind of remind me of a more refined version of the "Harry Potter" disciples of today, who I also do not get (sorry! :-[ ).  Actually, Philly, if you really want to get into it and think it through, your picking this in your top group versus my having Lean on Me in mine provides for a fascinating juxtaposition.  If you saw Lean on Me, what were your takes regarding it?  I think this would be a very intriguing and revealing path to go down.

(Now we are starting to get "real" with it.  These are the kind of "connections" I want to be making and hashing out!)


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I tried to pare my list down as much as possible, but I am a huge movie buff and my top 5 list changes depending on the mood I'm in.


Don't worry about that!  There are no rules here as to how long one's list can be.  I would just say to everybody to not bite off more than you can chew, i.e. not list so many that you can't write something personally meaningful about each one.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by bgsgfan on Jun 23rd, 2003, 6:28pm

on 06/23/03 at 18:05:27, StegRock wrote:
This is evidently a movie I gotta' re-see.  I don't know where my head was when I saw it; I know I was in Korea with my wife and even remember the theater, but I remember leaving thinking it was just whatever.  It was VERY popular there as it evidently was here.  I must have missed something.  From what I hear about it, I will probably go away from a second viewing with a more enlightened take.  I will say this.  To me, it seemed like a less-hardcore Reservoir Dogs with a cult following along the lines of Fargo.  As I mentioned, I wasn't in the States at the time.  How off is that impression?


Reservoir Dogs and The Usual Suspects are very similar, and you could say that it is the more subtle of the two.  Although both films are different from one another, generally they are appreciated by the same people, i.e. you will find them on the same lists at Amazon.

I wouldn't necessarily say you must see it again.  Your tastes appear to move in different directions (you like Lean on Me better than Dead Poets Society).  I don't know how to explain this, but, well you may never understand the attraction of TUS.  Watch it again if you were left stunned at American Beauty, if you watched Pulp Fiction and thought the nonlinear plot was awesome, if you loved Natural Born Killers even though it just seemed to be gratuitous violence, if you found yourself thinking about Donnie Darko 3 days after you watched it.  If these movies left you empty inside, you are probably better off moving on without a second look.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by bgsgfan on Jun 23rd, 2003, 6:36pm
I wrote this when I was in a very depressed mood, but I think I'll go ahead and post it.

Do you really want to know me?  I am not pretty.  Your average puff brain out there won't like me.  My taste in movies, like my taste in music, to a large extent is a reflection of myself.  It is dark and it is ugly; it's me.

Good Will Hunting
Do you have any idea how lonely it is to be so freaking smart?  To be 3 steps beyond your teacher?  Every year I wasted 90% of my time because of the dumb asses sitting around me.  The same lessons, over and over.  Teachers teaching the same subjects, year in and year out.  The worst were the freaking geeks who always do their homework and stand in line just the way the teacher wants.  Their faces when I killed them on standardized tests were priceless.

Will Hunting is me from that age.  More glib.  Maybe a little more handsome.

Robin Williams is the mentor I never found.

The story reminds me that I wasn't doomed to my current depravity - it was a choice.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2003, 7:03pm
You are being tongue-in-cheek there, right, bg, at least basically, right?  Anyway, Good Will Hunting is a great one.  For myself, I would put it a notch above that "big" group I have alluded to now a couple times.

Regarding TUS, of the list of movies you mentioned, I have only seen two of them, Natural Born Killers, the "social commentary" of which I get, but still was turned off by due to the overly gratuitous violence, and Pulp Fiction, which to me had little in the way of a substantive point and was VERY gratuitously violent.  That having been said, I was entertained by both, like I was Reservoir Dogs, but also walked away from them all somewhat ill, in heart, mind and spirit.  So, maybe, TUS is not for me.

Anyway, it does ironically appear thus far that I am the guy whose list nobody relates to, outside of The Matrix, which is actually, objectively-speaking probably the most "average" or "common" of the ones on my list.  Oh well!

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by bgsgfan on Jun 23rd, 2003, 7:09pm

on 06/23/03 at 19:03:53, StegRock wrote:
You are being tongue-in-cheek there, right, bg, at least basically, right?  


No.  That is me (in a mood, but still me).  No sarcasm, no wit, tongue completely out of cheek.  

For example: I always had the highest test scores, even in auditorium filled classrooms at Ohio State, even in honors classes.  Every subject, every time.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2003, 7:22pm
Now, where did you go to school before or after Ohio State?  Or, am I confusing you with someone else?  I remember your telling me... [smiley=lost.gif] [smiley=whatever.gif]

Anyway, what do you mean by "in a mood"?  I want to follow, I think. [smiley=uh.gif] ???

Well, in any case, it is great to know we got some brains 'round these here parts. [smiley=smileytrash.gif]

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2003, 7:26pm
Oh, and by the way, bg, are you still going to use that post above that you modified down to nothing or can it be deleted?

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by bgsgfan on Jun 24th, 2003, 8:31am
You can delete posts?  [smiley=Imwithstupid.gif] [smiley=doh.gif]

I don't know how smart I am - I do know I am a conceited, egomaniacal [smiley=dick.bmp].

I went to Kent State for a year while living at home, Ohio State for a year, got married, after 2 years went back to school at Youngstown State University.

As for being "in a mood", the easiest non-verbose explanation is just to say depressed.  Sometimes when I am this way, it is much better to just ignore me - I have a tendency to try to drag everyone down into the bleak hopeless despair that surrounds me.  ;D

Its ironic that I used to get upset with my ex when she was depressed.  At that time in my life I felt like the purpose of life was happiness and nothing should stand in the way of achieving one's personal state of bliss.  I don't mean fleeting enjoyment that leaves you empty, I mean happiness in the way where your inner self seems to swell with a power and love and feels like it will make even the sun appear dim.

Now I know that no matter how powerful the sun appears, the moon can block its rays and turn the brightest day into night.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by Philly on Jun 24th, 2003, 9:24am

on 06/23/03 at 18:05:27, StegRock wrote:
I will say this, though, regarding DPS, I totally get where you are coming from as a (former) teacher, BUT emotionally the suicide was, though appropriate to the story, over-the-top for me; I didn't shed much of a tear honestly and as you can infer from my write-ups above, I cry pretty easily if I am genuinely moved.


I have to admit that the suicide didn't move me to tears either.  What did were his friends' reactions to the suicide and also the scene at the end.  As far as the suicide was handled, I love the way it was handled in the film.


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Actually, Philly, if you really want to get into it and think it through, your picking this in your top group versus my having Lean on Me in mine provides for a fascinating juxtaposition.  If you saw Lean on Me, what were your takes regarding it?  I think this would be a very intriguing and revealing path to go down.


I am reluctant to admit that I have never seen the movie (in its entirety).  I am aware of Joe Clark and his story, but missed the flick.



I agree with your pick of Glory as a masterpiece.  I have trouble with Matthew Broderick (who I respect greatly as an actor) in the lead role.  Something about him just didn't ring true to me.



Good Will Hunting was another great movie.  I just watched it again last week on the Bravo channel.  I'm still amazed that Matt Damon and Ben Affleck wrote the screenplay.  One of the scenes I love best is when Will confronts the history grad student in the bar (or 'bah', as it is said in Boston).  Then the line, a bit later, "Do you like apples?"... priceless.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jun 24th, 2003, 10:47am

on 06/24/03 at 09:24:35, Philly wrote:
...and also the scene at the end.


That moved me too!  Those kids were doing the right thing and, moreover, so dramatically, poignantly and effectively.


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I am reluctant to admit that I have never seen the movie (in its entirety).  I am aware of Joe Clark and his story, but missed the flick.


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I agree with your pick of Glory as a masterpiece.  I have trouble with Matthew Broderick (who I respect greatly as an actor) in the lead role.  Something about him just didn't ring true to me.


GET THIS...  I "felt" the same thing to a degree and have heard this from quite a few others, including movie critics.  Understand that I am a fairly big Broderick fan, but here is how I saw it.  I saw it as absolutely brilliant acting in that I think the man himself was "torn" from within, quite unsure of himself and what he was doing, especially given his youthful age, and probably came off "unbelievable" to his peers, as well.  So, I thought Broderick's "herky-jerky", if you will, performance REALLY captured the very "essence" of the "actual" circumstances even if it was accidental or coincidental on his part.  Do you kind of follow?


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Good Will Hunting was another great movie.  I just watched it again last week on the Bravo channel.  I'm still amazed that Matt Damon and Ben Affleck wrote the screenplay.  One of the scenes I love best is when Will confronts the history grad student in the bar (or 'bah', as it is said in Boston).  Then the line, a bit later, "Do you like apples?"... priceless.


I like the apples line, as well.  But, I love the closing scene when he goes up to the door and it starts clicking in that his lifelong pal has, the way he told him in the construction-site scene he wanted him to, "moved on" (to bigger and better things).


on 06/24/03 at 08:31:19, bgsgfan wrote:
Now I know that no matter how powerful the sun appears, the moon can block its rays and turn the brightest day into night.


bg, my man, you need to hang out with me more. ;D I don't know if I have the solutions, per se; I'm sure I don't, to your precise set of issues, but I just think I might be the kind of person who can "shed some light" on... "things". [smiley=zenmaster.gif]

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by DOLPHINDAN1 on Jun 24th, 2003, 11:38am
Dances with Wolves.....Is my masterpiece of choice......I think it really hit home to what the wild frontier was actually like......I also loved Robin Hood......I am a huge Kevin Costner fan......yes even Waterworld......Titanic was terrific.....Shrek was a instant classic......if you have never seen it take the time to it is hilarious......Both American Pie's........All time classic Fast Times at Ridgemont High.....

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by bgsgfan on Jun 24th, 2003, 12:18pm

on 06/24/03 at 11:38:09, DOLPHINDAN1 wrote:
Dances with Wolves.....Is my masterpiece of choice......I think it really hit home to what the wild frontier was actually like


What about DWW hit you as being more realistic than other frontier movies? (trying it this way so Steg doesn't pull his hair out)

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jun 24th, 2003, 5:52pm

on 06/24/03 at 12:18:26, bgsgfan wrote:
What about DWW hit you as being more realistic than other frontier movies? (tying it this way so Steg doesn't pull his hair out)


Nice approach! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Thanks!

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jun 29th, 2003, 3:23am
I was thinking about extending my all-time favorites list above from top 5 to top 10 and adding my #6 through #10 favorite movies.  I was having a tough time breaking it down just like when I first approached this.  I mean that is why I ended up only choosing five to begin with because those five stuck out, in particular.  Anyway, while pondering this for a second time and really reaching deep, something dawned on me.  Movies like the "Wizard of Oz", and even one step odder in that they are holiday movies, the 1951 classic rendition of "a Christmas Carol", the one with Alastair Sim, and "It's a Wonderful Life" were coming to mind.  If I were to count these movies, all of which I have seen on video, i.e. without breaks, not just on network TV, there is a good chance they would ALL make my top 10, quite frankly speaking.  What would you guys say here?  Do you think movies like those should be counted in this kind of thing?  Can they even be compared to contemporary movies fairly?  Are they just too "different", in genre and in the "experience" of them?  Should we just stay focused on movies "of our time" (at least as it applies to the vast majority of us)?  Or, does "all-time" mean "all-time"?  What do you all think? [smiley=whatever.gif]

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by bgsgfan on Jun 29th, 2003, 4:03am
All-Time means All-Time.  

Earlier today I asked my girlfriend to help me come up with some happy movies that are among my favorites.  We are still working on it.  For a couple minutes I pondered Remember the Titans, but then I considered what I would talk about - and the main reason it connects with me is that my cousin (who was a high school football god) died in a car wreck.

Anyways, maybe thinking about my favorite older movies will help me think of a favorite thats happy.   A Clockwork Orange ?  Taxi Driver?  Apocalypse Now?
[smiley=thinking.gif]   [smiley=Uwent2far.gif]

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 29th, 2003, 8:13am
OK--

After much thought and deliberation, I am finally ready to post my second movie.  While technically they are two seperate movies, I am counting them as one.   I couldn't come up with a deep meaning as to why I like them so much.  But I can tell you why I am adding them to my list.

I usually don't like watching a movie a second time.  But these two movies are movies I  watch pretty much every time TBS and TNN run them.  Something about them entrances me and I get sucked in to the "feel good" nature of the movie.

Enough waiting....my second movies are:

Dave   and   American President

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by Philly on Jun 29th, 2003, 10:57am

on 06/29/03 at 03:23:38, StegRock wrote:
What would you guys say here?  Do you think movies like those should be counted in this kind of thing?  Can they even be compared to contemporary movies fairly?  Are they just too "different", in genre and in the "experience" of them?  Should we just stay focused on movies "of our time" (at least as it applies to the vast majority of us)?  Or, does "all-time" mean "all-time"?  What do you all think? [smiley=whatever.gif]


I agree... there can't be any rules or limitations on what movies really connect with an individual...


One of the movies that is probably #6 or #7 on my list is Guys and Dolls (Frank Sinatra, Marlon Brando).  It is certainly of a different genre and it is not contemporary (nor are others on my top 5 list).  Guys and Dolls is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me.  I love the story, am a big Brando and Sinatra fan, and actually enjoy the musical pieces in the movie.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by bgsgfan on Jun 29th, 2003, 12:10pm

on 06/29/03 at 10:57:33, Philly wrote:
I agree... there can't be any rules or limitations on what movies really connect with an individual...

Great way to put it.


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One of the movies that is probably #6 or #7 on my list is Guys and Dolls (Frank Sinatra, Marlon Brando).  It is certainly of a different genre and it is not contemporary (nor are others on my top 5 list).  Guys and Dolls is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me.  I love the story, am a big Brando and Sinatra fan, and actually enjoy the musical pieces in the movie.


I loved Brando's performances in Apocalypse Now and The Godfather, but i haven't seen any of his earlier flicks.  Do any of his other movies show off his incredible presensce as well as those 2?  What would you consider the best places to continue a "Brando" collection?

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by Philly on Jun 29th, 2003, 2:58pm

on 06/29/03 at 12:10:52, bgsgfan wrote:
What would you consider the best places to continue a "Brando" collection?



I only saw it once, a long while ago, but I remember loving On the Waterfront.  I need to see that again.  And if you're bored, why not check out Brando singing "Luck Be a Lady" in Guys and Dolls  (even though it was Sinatra's song, Brando sung it in the movie).  It will definitely be another side of Brando you haven't seen - he does still play a tough guy though.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by BarnabyWilde on Jun 29th, 2003, 5:27pm
I really love both of these movies...I think it is because of the same reasons you mention DD...feel good and I too get sucked in every time they come on television


on 06/29/03 at 08:13:07, DirkDiggler wrote:
OK--

Enough waiting....my second movies are:

Dave   and   American President


Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jul 1st, 2003, 1:09am
Well, I'll give you guys what my "#10 through #6" list boiled down to.  This took some REAL soul-searching.  On this list, there will be new movies that are black-and-white and old movies that are color and everything in between (no Kate Hepburn [smiley=bow.gif] movies, though :-[ ).

An important note, first...  During my thought process, I found it VERY difficult to incorporate comedies and horror/thriller movies on my list.  I can only rationalize it that you can only laugh at the same joke so many times and you can only be scared or surprised at a scene so many times, so those genres of movies tend to be, well, less timeless.  It's tough, though, toeing the line between discerning the importance of timelessness versus the power of the experience of a single, initial viewing.  Of my original top-5 list, only two of those movies do I know I saw more than once, Glory and Planes, Trains and Automobiles!

So, [smiley=whatever.gif] , but without further ado, here are #'s 10 through 6 on my all-time favorites list:

#10 - Young Frankenstein
A black-and-white movie (done for affect) from the early 80's!  The one movie among plain-and-simple comedies (or horrors for that matter) that made my list.  It's ironic that it has a monster theme, actually.  Anyway, I have seen this movie a ton of times.  It has worn on me, to be quite honest, but, if there were ONE straight-up comedy and nothing else I had to recommend to somebody, this would be it.  Very creative!  Gene Wilder and the whole cast are absolutely in the comic "zone" in this flick.  The scene, deep into the movie, when Wilder (Dr. Frankenstein) is confiscating the dead body from the graveyard and the arm pops out and a police officer comes up to him and he has to make like the dead arm is his, is hysterical.  And, Igor (pronounced "I"-gor or "E"-gor) with his bulging eyes is an absolute crack-up!  I am chuckling right now just thinking about it all.

#9 - It's a Wonderful Life
Okay, the first sappy old movie, a Christmas one no less.  WHATEVER!  Jimmy Stewart is "the man" and Donna Reed is straight-up hot.  I remember someone mentioning non-linear storylines earlier on this thread.  Well, it wasn't taken to the non-linear extremes of today, but the story of this 1946 movie was WAY ahead of its time in that respect.  And, Clarence, if you ain't [smiley=bawling.gif] when that bell on the Christmas tree rings at the end of the movie, you had better head to the doctor, no, not a psychiatrist, an M.D., because you ain't got a heart.  I am getting teary right now!  I will watch this movie every year for the rest of my life and be entertained each and every time.

#8 - A Christmas Carol
I know... you're thinking YASCM (Yet Another Sappy Christmas Movie)!  But, whatever, it's "awe"some!  I am talking about the "original" one with Alastair Sim made in England in 1951, but looking like it was made in 1921 to be a silent movie.  But, the REALLY grainy quality actually ends up being a boon, adding to the affect of the movie.  Sim is the ULTIMATE Scrooge and they pushed the envelope of what limited technology they were obviously working with.  Even though the techniques were very simple, the scenes are still wondrous and, moreover, apropos for this Charles Dickens classic.  Again, you want "non-linear"...  In any event, this is another movie that I perennially watch and am perennially entertained by.  The George C. Scott version can't hold water to this one and the newest one with Patrick Stewart made for TV comes in a distant second.

#7 - The Wizard of Oz
THIS MOVIE WAS MADE IN 1939... "1939," I said!  Color movie... 1939... enough said, really!  Actually, black-and-white... color... this movie had it all!  Understand I hate musicals!  And, I am NOT an old movie buff.  BUT, this movie is flat-out incredible.  It is a "trip" that was WAAAAAAAAAAY ahead of its time.  The characters are absolutely endearing, right down to little Toto, the Tin Man being my favorite.  Judy Garland is NOT hard on the eyes.  The Wicked Witch of the West is actually a little scary.  The way all the characters "actually exist" in her "real" life is awesome.  They could have actually extended the black-and-white part of the movie in the beginning and spent a little more time developing those "real-world" characters more.  As for its being a musical, since the whole movie is, well, psychedelic, their breaking out into song and dance works.  And, the ultimate DOUBLE TWIST, one that the "wizard" of Oz is, well, you know, and two that it is "implied" that none of it actually took place, is a stroke of brilliance.  This movie is the ultimate ground-breaker of ALL time in MANY respects!

#6 - Big
Okay, I'll come on back to "our" time!  This was Tom Hanks's breakout movie and WHAT a role.  Once again, like those above, just a great idea, ultimately!  It is said that for a performance or show to truly be great, it has to have heart.  Well, that is the case and this movie has BIG-time heart.  This movie will bring you to tears, with laughter, sadness and joy.  The giant electric piano dance scene in FAO Schwartz in New York City is classic and it was done in like one cut.  The innocence of a child's mind in an adult body portrayed in this movie seems absolutely genuine and, moreover, accurate.  Over and above pureness of mind, it exemplified the mournful loss of creativity and open-mindedness that us adults "experience" as we "grow up", or should it be said, "grow down".  If you really appreciate Tom Hanks for ALL that he is, this is a MUST-SEE!  This part was written for Hanks, I think more than any of his others, Forrest Gump and Castaway notwithstanding!

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by Tony_O on Jul 1st, 2003, 2:10am
Well after much debate and soul searching I have whittled my list down to a few GREAT movies.......

#1. A FEW GOOD MEN - A classic movie that examines the true marine lifestyle and dedication with a tension filled courtroom drama. It also explores a father and son relationship and how hard it is to live in the shadow of a successful and famous father. Two great performances by "Jack" and Tom Cruise. The movie is also filled with many great actors playing supporting roles.  This movie grabs me because I am overwhelmed at the dedication and passion soldiers have for each other and OUR great country. I also love the witty courtroom banter.  I also like the fact that you see Tom Cruise's character develop and mature throughout the movie. Is he going to test himself and be more that what he has become?

#2 MY LIFE - A movie that explores many relationships(Husband /Wife, Father/Son Etc.) as well as death, mortality, and Eastern Asian Beliefs(thats for you Steg). This movies touches me in many ways. I lost my father at a young age and I can relate to the loss of a loved one. I also can relate to wanting to be more than what you where from. I was raised by only my mother and she worked exremely hard to provide me with what she could. I think sometimes you want to be more,  have more and provide more than what you were given as a child, and it's not regret or being unappreciative but you use your modest means to push you into being sucessful and having material things. Then you realize that having people you love just close to you and loving you is way more important than just HAVING things. This movie is a tear jerker and I cry everytime I watch it.

I think I will continue my list a little later.......

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jul 15th, 2003, 12:30am

on 07/01/03 at 02:10:32, Tony_O wrote:
#2 MY LIFE - A movie that explores many relationships(Husband /Wife, Father/Son Etc.) as well as death, mortality, and Eastern Asian Beliefs(thats for you Steg). This movies touches me in many ways. I lost my father at a young age and I can relate to the loss of a loved one. I also can relate to wanting to be more than what you where from. I was raised by only my mother and she worked exremely hard to provide me with what she could. I think sometimes you want to be more,  have more and provide more than what you were given as a child, and it's not regret or being unappreciative but you use your modest means to push you into being sucessful and having material things. Then you realize that having people you love just close to you and loving you is way more important than just HAVING things. This movie is a tear jerker and I cry everytime I watch it.


I have been meaning to respond to this for some time now.  Sorry for taking THIS long! :-[ I just wanted to say that I really agree with the spirit of what you wrote here, Tony!  In the effort (and with respect to and for the "point" of this thread) to get to know each other better by way of this discussion, I have to tell you that I too lost my father when I was young, a junior in high school; making it worse was that it was right before Christmas, December 10th.  I still remember that afternoon VIVIDLY!  My mother, who I almost lost, as well, earlier that same year from a kidney ailment, which cost her one of her kidneys in an emergency surgery, went on to work three jobs to provide for me and help get me through college (no, my dad was not Daddy Warbucks, he was a truck driver who unfortunately did not "plan" for this).  These kinds of experiences make you a certain kind of man and cause you to have a particular kind of worldview, and I definitely "see" whence you are coming, Tony. [smiley=zenmaster.gif]

...

Meanwhile, Eric Nies, who I personally know from high school, just flashed across my screen here on the "Jimmy Kimmel Show" because of the new show he is hosting, "Dance Fever".  He's a basically good, cool guy, a good friend of one of my best friends.  BUT, let's just say that he's lived a "different" life and been handed what he's gotten, rather than earned what he's achieved if you follow.  He does not have that "appreciation" that we are talking about above. [smiley=no.gif] Anyway, this is another topic for a different thread... place.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by Tony_O on Jul 21st, 2003, 3:31pm
WOW,  :o I was a junior in high school when I lost my father as well! What a small world. We will have to talk about it someday.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by Bob_Oswego on Jul 21st, 2003, 11:14pm
I have several favorite movies some happy some sad some just plain entertaining

Honourable Mention List....Follow Me Boys, Remember the Titans, Victory, Patton, Little Big Man, Slapshot, The French Connection, Thirteen Days, Pelican Brief and High Plains Drifter

5.  Mary Poppins ...a classic that gives you a real upbeat feeling and makes you forget about reality

4.  The Sting ...best clean cut gangster movie ever and how about that handle "Henry Gondorf"

3.  Moonraker James Bond at his best with Jaws to boot

2.  Raiders of the Lost Ark  around every corner a new twist for Indy Jones

1A The Dirty Dozen teamwork at its best and plenty of action too

1 Hoosiers maybe it is the small school thing, I am a teacher coach at a small high school and this idea of taking a group of kids and moulding them and building them and seeing it all work out is an indescribable feeling...it motivates me to keep going.  

Movies are good but I thing I prefer sports


Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jul 22nd, 2003, 12:30am
Bobby O, I'm with ya' on Hoosiers.  That was a movie that came to my mind while I was doing my brainstorming.  And, Raiders of the Lost Ark has come up a few times now!  Evidently, a real success (with our generation).  But, Mary Poppins,... [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] I gotta' haze you on that one! [smiley=takinyours.gif] I can't believe I am seeing this on "the Gridiron"!  You gotta' be kiddin'!  Whatever, though,... (keee, keee, snicker, snicker) You like what you like! (keee, keee, snicker, snicker) ... (keee, keee, snicker, snicker) ;) (keee, keee, snicker, snicker) :-X (blaaaa...) [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif]


on 07/15/03 at 00:30:19, StegRock wrote:
Eric Nies, who I personally know from high school, just flashed across my screen here on the "Jimmy Kimmel Show" because of the new show he is hosting, "Dance Fever".


"Dance Fever"... :-X [smiley=no.gif] :-[ ... Oh God in Heaven! [smiley=nono.gif]

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by Bob_Oswego on Jul 22nd, 2003, 4:56pm
Different stokes for Different folks.....remember variety is the spice of life

Anything goes when opinions are involved and you can't deny the guts it took to post that one.....but I stand by it

Chim chimney chim chim cherrie...

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)


Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jul 22nd, 2003, 7:26pm

on 07/22/03 at 16:56:53, Bob_Oswego wrote:
Anything goes when opinions are involved and you can't deny the guts it took to post that one.....


I'm with ya', brother! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] It did take guts, though, as you state, and you gotta' admit that it is, at least a little, funny! [smiley=LMFAO.gif] ;)

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by Bob_Oswego on Jul 22nd, 2003, 8:15pm
Yeah it is funny....Nuff said!!

How about ranking fave football movies

Let's see......

Rudy
Remember the Titans
Longest Yard
North Dallas Forty
Varsity Blues
Hometown Legend
The Replacements
The Program
Gus the Field Goal Kicking Donkey

Are there others I am forgetting about
Was the book Friday Night Lights made into a movie yet?

[smiley=footballsmiley.gif] [smiley=gotanidea.gif]

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by PrimeTime on Jul 22nd, 2003, 10:37pm
How can you forget Airbud, Little Giants, and some movie starring Tony Danza as a trash collector turned field goal kicker for the Eagles. - I can't remember the name.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jul 22nd, 2003, 10:49pm
Also, there is Any Given Sunday.

Anyway, PrimeTime, I got one for ya'.  I am safely supposing based on your avatar that you are an "X-phile" (coined right here, right now, I guess), i.e. a BIG fan of the "X-Files".  I am too.  I have never seen the "X-Files" movie, though.  I heard it was pretty good from one of my friends.  Did you see it?  How did you think it was?  Is it one of your all-time favorites?

Again, guys, a final important note here...  Remember that the point of this thread is for us "to get to know you better through movies, NOT get to know movies better through you", so to speak. [smiley=zenmaster.gif]

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by PrimeTime on Jul 23rd, 2003, 12:16am
How astute of you [smiley=bow.gif] [smiley=bow.gif]  I am a BIG x-files fan.  I was bummed when it went off the air.  I did see the movie and I thought it was pretty good.  

I'm not sure it will make my top 10 list.  (Which I am still working on)  [smiley=thinking.gif].  I worked in a movie theater for three years so I have seen many, many movies.  It will be hard for me to pick 10.  

I know one will be Arthur (with the late Dudley Moore).  That was in the movies when I started work and my friends and I saw it like 100 times and memorized all the lines  (one of my favorite:  "I wish I had a dime for every dime I have").  I'm still working on the other 9.  

I will need a couple of days to sort it out.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by junkyardjake on Jul 27th, 2003, 1:04pm
Hey guys,

Here's some more movie lists, separated by whether you are in a thinking mood or not.

JYJ :^)

Top 5 Movies You Can Watch With Your Brain Turned Off:

#5 Half-Baked/Office Space - Two light-weight but hysterical movies featuring two topics that deserve serious social attention:   1) Why doesn't Dave Chappelle make more movies ?  and 2) The absurdity of working in an office from 9-5 everyday.

#4  Meet the Parents - Finally a real depiction of what it's like to meet a finance's relatives.  So many classic lines ('So Greg, how's your portfolio?' -  'I'd say strong, ...to quite strong')

#3 Tin Cup - I don't even like golf, but this 'underdog takes on the prick' movie from Ron Shelton ('Bull Durham' and 'White Men Can't Jump') is one of Kevin Costner's best.

#2- Bull Durham - The quintessential baseball movie of perhaps all-time, maybe the best sports movie ever, also by Ron Shelton.

#1 Raising Arizona - The Cohen Brothers (The guys who did 'Fargo') outlandish comedy starring Nicholas Cage, John Goodman and Holly Hunter; just too wacky to even describe.  

Top 5 Movies That Require Some Thinking :

#5 JFK - Oliver Stone may be a mental case, but never has a movie raised so many questions about a turning point in American history.  The amazing detail of the loosely-based 'factual' material is enhanced by Stone's unique schizophrenic filming techniques and editing.

#4 Raging Bull - Classic Scorsese/DeNiro movie about the brutal world of professional boxing and the volatile personality of middle-weight champ Jake LaMotta.  Also features Joe Pesci as Lamotta's brother in his first major role.

#3 Remains of the Day - One of those Merchant/Ivory classics about unrequited love between two house servants (Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson) that uses such beautifully cinematography, you almost don't care what it's about.  At the very worst, your girlfriend will be very impressed if you have the patience to watch this.

#2 Miller Crossing - Not sure why I like this one so much, probably the quirky dialogue and unpredictable characters.  The other appealing aspect is that you are never really sure if you are watching a comedy or a gangster movie.  This is also a Cohen Brothers thang.

#1 Braveheart - This is an obvious modern classic, and really encompasses so many timeless themes such as love, betrayal, and valor into a thoroughly amazing and inspiring story.  Plus you get to see Mel Gibson kick some big-time a## with cool-looking medieval weapons!

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by FourTwoOh on Jul 27th, 2003, 2:44pm
Not a big movie fan by any means, but what I like tends to be lighter fair. I like a lot of them, but few really draw me in.

A few exceptions to the rule:

Dogma - Can't praise the movie's irreverance enough, but I thrive on that type of humor.

Con Air - Nichalaus Cage was again masterful, and so many of the prisoners on the plane were perfectly cast.

The Rock - Cage and Sean Connery need to team up more often, seemed a natural fit for both.

I'll add a few more as they come to me.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Oct 18th, 2003, 6:51pm
Bumpin' this one for the new guys 'round here!

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by bakes781 on Oct 22nd, 2003, 11:13am
[quote author=junkyardjake link=board=58;num=1056353524;start=25#42 date=07/27/03 at 13:04:02]

#5 Half-Baked/Office Space - Two light-weight but hysterical movies featuring two topics that deserve serious social attention:   1) Why doesn't Dave Chappelle make more movies ?  and 2) The absurdity of working in an office from 9-5 everyday.

Dave Chappelle is the funniest man on the planet.  Both of those movies are what I consider CULT classics.  I would also throw in Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket & A Clockwork Orange into that category.  BTW, I was at my local library over the weekend & would you believe they have A Clockwork Orange on a shelf specifically for "Halloween Movies."  Imagine being a child & seeing that sh!t. [smiley=ohshit.gif]

My top 5 consists of mostly older movies.  Some more recent movies that I would recommend are the Beach(very sexy), Kids(very real) & Nutty Professor(very funy).

As for sports movies I would put The Natural & The Longest Yard in a tie for 1st place.  

Here's my top 5 favorite movies:
     
#5~ RISKY BUSINESS
   Tom Cruise has been in some really good dramas.  Born on the 4th of July & Rain Man are right up there.  However, this rare comedy classic tops them all.  "Sometimes you just got a say, 'what the [smiley=flipoffangrily.gif]."  Rebecca Demorney was SO hot. [smiley=smitten.gif] When I was a teenager those scenes were the sexiest ever.  Plus you gotta admit Tom looked [smiley=toocool.gif] in those shades.

#4~ LITTLE BIG MAN
   Dustin Hoffman is one of my favorite actors.  This was one of his earliest films.  I originally watched this for a college film class.  I fell in love with it instantly.  It's a bit long for some people.  It's got everything from action  [smiley=broncofan.gif] to drama [smiley=violin.gif] to comedy [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif].  

#3~ I AM SAM
   This movie is the most recent of my list.   If you like  [smiley=bawling.gif] then this is THE film to see.  Starring Sean Penn another great actor.  I'm looking forward to seeing Mystic River which was filmed right here in Mass.

#2~ ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST
   Jack is the man.  He's my favorite actor.  From The Shining, Chinatown, Easy Rider, 5 Easy Pieces to more recent movies like [smiley=batman.gif] & As Good as it Gets he has done it all.  This film is the best of the best.  

Drum roll please.....

#1~ FORREST GUMP
   It's not the most quoted movie ever for nothing.  You may have noticed that I have a thing for movies with a slow witted man perservering through life.  It's funny b/c I love Good Will Hunting(beantown boys).  Which is about a man who's super intelligent.  As mentioned by others, it has sum very powerful scenes.  However, Forrest Gump is the most powerful movie I have ever seen.  The entire cast was amazing.  U know all the famous quotes.  The scene where Forrest is speaking to his dead mother is the most heart wrenching of all.  I don't know the exact quote, but it was very  :(.  
   
Sorry, but I'm not a big fan of action or sci-fi movies.  Robert Dinero movies like Goodfellas & Taxi Driver are cool though.  That reminds me.  Here's hoping for a speedy recovery from prostate cancer.   :)








Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by Philly on Oct 30th, 2003, 4:55pm

on 06/23/03 at 14:11:35, Philly wrote:
#1 - Dead Poets Society - This is the former HS English teacher in me with this selection.  Robin Williams is able to deftly combine his comedic genius with a truly dramatic role.  The supporting cast (Ethan Hawke, Robert Sean Leonard, etc.) is brilliant.  This movie touched me on so many levels.  The cinematography and accompanying film score was tremendous.  I love the fact that a teacher was so able to inspire his students to greatness and the loyalty they show to him as a result is inspirational and tear-worthy.


I just watched this movie again last night and it inspired me to revisit this thread.  I think this is my favorite thread on the Gridiron.  Sure, we're all here because of fantasy football, but I've learned so much about many of you from this one thread.  I hope some of the people who didn't post here will do so as time goes on...



I also realized I needed to add another movie to my list...

Pacific Heights
Matthew Modine and Melanie Griffith purchase an old Victorian house in San Francisco, but in order to afford it, they rent out two units downstairs.  One of the tenants, Michael Keaton, weasels his way into the apartment and never pays rent.  At every turn, he makes the owners' lives more and more miserable.  One of the best psychological thrillers I've ever seen.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by Noey21 on Nov 1st, 2003, 12:51am
Top five...granted it always seems to change but here it goes.


1. Breakfast Club...just good acting, writing and I could relate to it.

2. Shawshank Rdemption.........Morgan Freeman is incredible and it is a great story.

3 Se7en...makes you think.  Again Morgan Freeman is awesome

4. Sandlot ....i think that could be me and my friends as kids.....baseball 24/7


5.  Stand by Me....again could have been me and I can relate to it.


Honorable mentions....Witness, Crimson Tide, Rdy, Hoosiers, Field of Dreams, and Strang Brew...and of course the Green mile.



Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Mar 18th, 2004, 8:36pm
I just gotta ask given all the commotion...

Has anybody seen The Passion yet?  I have not.  Any thoughts?

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by Tony_O on Mar 20th, 2004, 1:00am
Yes I have! A very powerful film. The brutality is almost unbearable. It makes you realize what he actually went threw. I came away with two very powerful images. The first, for those of you who have kids, the unconditional love a parent has for their child, which makes you feel that you would suffer the most horrible death or torture to ensure the safety of your loved ones. Jesus felt this way about ALL mankind. Secondly, you walk away from the movie feeling that my life is very trivial. Take time to appreciate the people and freedoms you have in your life. It made me want to be a better person. That sounds cheesy, but I mean it.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by kidcrash on Mar 20th, 2004, 8:56am
I couldnt of said it better tony o. very moving and spiritual.I came out of the passion feeling very humbled.the movie also strentghened my faith,which I really needed.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Apr 5th, 2004, 12:31am
Gotta start this out with a little levity...


on 03/20/04 at 01:00:58, Tony_O wrote:
It made me want to be a better person.


So, you felt about The Passion of The Christ the way Jack Nicholson's character felt about Helen Hunt's character in As Good As It Gets, almost verbatim. [smiley=laugh.gif] ... ;)

...

Well, I finally "took it in" today, Palm Sunday,... somewhat ideal.  It was some of the fastest two hours and however many minutes I've ever spent.  For me, it finished before it began.  I also watched the special Dateline tonight broadcast from Jerusalem.  It conducted an "academic" (though not liberal) study of the history of Christ's last days.  In any case, here are just a few of the thoughts I had walking away from the movie and it all...

1)  I thought their choice to do the movie in the language(s) of the times, Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin, whatever, with English subtitles was a great move.  It made the whole experience (at least seem) more authentic to me.

2)  It stirred quite a bit of emotion up in me.  I did not cry very much, though.  I mostly just had my hands over my nose and mouth with my mouth agape.  The one part I did well up at was when Jesus was carrying the cross through the city and fell and Mary got close to him and told him, "I am here."  Even though it is not scripturally accurate, the parallel of her thinking back to when he was a little boy and falling worked for me.

3)  I now get the criticism from the Jewish perspective though I do not agree with the level to which they have heaped it on Mel Gibson.  The movie did not portray the Romans (Italians), in general, in any better light.  They were BARBARIC, in capitals!  Mostly, it reflected on Jews poorly, somewhat ironically because it did not more strictly stick to New Testament scripture AND specifically because it took the VERY soft approach to Pontius Pilate's complicity... used the VERY "forgiving" interpretation regarding the role of Pontius Pilate in the (putting to) death of Jesus Christ.  HOWEVER, regarding the contemporary debate, though they took the harsh, to say the least, approach to Caiphas and his crew, it must be mentioned that they did portray a couple dissenting Judaic high priests, which is NOWHERE to be found in scripture, and many Jewish "believers", and, on the other hand, they were not AT ALL really generous to Abenadar and Cassius, both who became Christians and in the case of the latter became who is better known in the Catholic Church as St. Longinus, a martyr of Christianity.  ...  Of course, it's ALL the fulfillment of prophecies, right?  So...? [smiley=shrug.gif] Anyway, the movie's scriptural innaccuracy and stepping on the toes of Jews are largely a function of its really being based on the stigmatic visions of the Augustinian nun Anne Catherine Emmerich (well-known among (Catholic) theological academics).  She was also considered an anti-Semite.  Here are some resources for those interested in digging:

http://www.emmerich1.com/DOLOROUS_PASSION_OF_OUR_LORD_JESUS_CHRIST.htm
(focus on chapters 40 through 49);

http://www.belief.net/boards/message_list.asp?boardID=9829&discussionID=333547;

http://www.thepassionforum.com/n/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=29;

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/140/story_14099.html.

4)  Most importantly, probably, and regarding a substantive, even if somewhat small, effect the movie has had on me, just out of sheer respect for what I now MUCH better understand Jesus endured for his beliefs, for what was right, for the good, for our good, for the greater good, for "something" greater (than himSELF),... for us, I am going to make a VERY CONCERTED effort from now on to rid my quite vast vocabulary of expletives of "J---- C-----"!  I'll stick with my f's, sh's, bs's, a-holes, etc., etc., for sure, ;) but no more taking His name in vein. [smiley=nono.gif] I even caught myself during the movie in reaction to the violence he was enduring going "J---- C-----!"  I was SO EMBARRASSED, an emotion I do NOT often feel, and no one probably even heard me.

5)  I learned A LOT through this all.

...

See it!  You won't regret it! [smiley=yes.gif]

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by The Juror on Apr 26th, 2004, 11:49am
I am a huge movie buff.

All time Favorites-

1) Its A Wonderful Life

2) 12 Angry Men (The original with Henry Fonda)

3) Shawshank Redemption

4) The Godfather

5) The Searchers (John Wayne)

As far as Sports Movies Go:

1) A Field of Dreams

2) The Natural

3) The Brian Piccolo Story

4) Pride of the Yankees

5) Rudy

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Apr 26th, 2004, 12:56pm

on 04/26/04 at 11:49:50, The Juror wrote:
1) Its A Wonderful Life



on 07/01/03 at 01:09:58, StegRock wrote:
#9 - It's a Wonderful Life
Okay, the first sappy old movie, a Christmas one no less.  WHATEVER!  Jimmy Stewart is "the man" and Donna Reed is straight-up hot.  I remember someone mentioning non-linear storylines earlier on this thread.  Well, it wasn't taken to the non-linear extremes of today, but the story of this 1946 movie was WAY ahead of its time in that respect.  And, Clarence, if you ain't [smiley=bawling.gif] when that bell on the Christmas tree rings at the end of the movie, you had better head to the doctor, no, not a psychiatrist, an M.D., because you ain't got a heart.  I am getting teary right now!  I will watch this movie every year for the rest of my life and be entertained each and every time.


WE've got a connection!  I was actually thinking that people were just daring to be different. ;) So, TJ, based on where you listed it, are we to understand that "It's a Wonderful Life" is in fact your #1 all-time favorite or did you just happen to think of it first (which would be telling too, actually)?

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by The Juror on Apr 26th, 2004, 4:54pm
Steg,

Its my ALL time favorite.  I like Capra's work and have always been a huge Jimmy Stewart Fan.    Donna Reed is such a babe in it, and a little did you know GBRFL style.

Did you know that Alfalfa, from the Little Rascals also was in Its a wonderful life.

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Apr 27th, 2004, 3:44am

on 04/26/04 at 16:54:16, The Juror wrote:
Did you know that Alfalfa, from the Little Rascals also was in Its a wonderful life.


Yes, I did!  He is one of George Bailey's (or his brother's) high school buds, right?  I remember him in the pool scene, for sure.

Title: Re: Get to know your Gridironers - Topic:  Movies
Post by Philly on Jun 17th, 2004, 11:59pm

on 06/23/03 at 18:28:18, bgsgfan wrote:
if you found yourself thinking about Donnie Darko 3 days after you watched it...


I just saw this movie for the first time.  I'm not quite sure how to react to it.  I imagine I'll be thinking about it for a while and deconstructing/reconstructing it.

It was an amazing movie, to say the least.

It's kind of weird, in some senses... it was a Gridironer here who, indirectly led me to this movie -- I happened to see it in Blockbuster tonight and vaguely remembered bgsgfan commenting on it and decided to give it a whirl.  Then as I'm watching it, the music really jumped out at me.  Two of the songs that were featured prominently in the movie are songs that are on my list of favorites (but not yet posted on the other thread) and another song in the movie is by a group which will also be represented on my list.

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Aug 16th, 2004, 3:00pm
Saw I, Robot last night.  Good, but no Matrix as it had been being compared.  Anybody else see it?

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jun 19th, 2005, 11:33pm
Saw The Longest Yard today.  It's the first movie I've seen since The Passion of the Christ or I-Robot; I can't remember which (edit:  oops... I should've looked right above :-[).  Anyway (italicized, but not the name of a movie ;),... I think), it was pretty good.  Very "split decision", though.  The first half rather stunk.  BUT, the second half, from the "wet field" scene on, it gained it's heart and really got good.  Adam Sandler and Chris Rock were great as was the rest of all-star (amateur-actor) cast, actually, which included the likes of Nelly, Chris Berman, Michael Irvin, Bob "The Beast" Sapp, whose character was particularly endearing, Kevin "Big Sexy" Nash, whose character was a hoot (quite literally in a way [smiley=boobies.gif]), etc., etc.  It's not going to go down as one of the best sports or, moreover, football movies of all time, but it's a goodie worth checking out. [smiley=yes.gif] I give it... [smiley=twothumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by Philly on Jun 20th, 2005, 9:35am
Being the father of a two-year old, I don't get to see many movies in the theatre.  However, over the past month I've managed to catch THREE movies.

1.  Madagascar (with the little guy) - It didn't hold my son's interest for more than 10 minutes (nothing much does - except when we got him the pretzel bites with cheese dip - he was quiet for a full 20 minutes there).  The movie was pretty good considering the target audience.  There was some good adult (not risque, just more advanced) humor to keep me interested.  The story was OK.  Some good characters (the chimps, for example) were under-utilized while other (less interesting) characters were overplayed.  All in all, I'll give this one a C+.

2. Star Wars 3 Revenge of the Sith - Saw this with a friend who really wanted to see it.  I'm not a big Star Wars guy, so much of it was lost on me.  The action was great.  Decent storyline that really leads the viewer into the first Star Wars movie from 30 years ago.  Acting was horrendous, although I'm told that is part of the schtick.  I'd give it a B-.

3. Batman Begins - I saw this one over the weekend.  This is a winner.  Fantastic acting and an amazing cast.  This is a darker film than many would expect.  Great story and great action.  I'd give it an A.

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jul 30th, 2005, 1:02am
Saw War of the Worlds today... [smiley=thumbsdown.gif] The story/plot/point was... [smiley=uh.gif] It was more of just a play-by-play.  I love Tom Cruise, but, whatever...  Do NOT waste your money on this flick.

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by LaHorace on Aug 1st, 2005, 12:25am
Cinema is a relatively new artform. There are, indeed, very few examples of art within it. As an artist, I briefly present five:

1.) Citizen Kane[i]-The greatest example in all of the medium of genius meeting form. Phenominal, unnecessarily contraversial, magnificent, and all the other jimmies on top.

2.) [i]The Godfather 1 & 2
-Since Aeschalus and Sophocles, never has a more horrific tragedy been wrought. Outstanding imagery of contrasts, superbly acted and directed.

3.) Pulp Fiction-Never before or since has such a disturbingly grotesque environment provided such a redemptive scenario. How does a grimy find redemption? Through traumatic chaos. These are questions and answers about the human condition that most artists are afraid to delve into--Tarantino does it with a sense of curious joy.

4.) Taxi Driver-In contrast to the lovable low-lifes of Pulp Fiction, Travis Bickle is the unpolished depiction of the true grimy. He's not witty, he's not intelligent, and he has no ambitions. He just wants to know somebody. In that the inability to do that combimes with a psychotic episode, the media's coverage of said episode is all telling.

5.) Unforgiven- Gene Hackman, Morgan Freeman, Clint Eastwood, and the whores are all the same people in this architypical account of the perfect infernal scene: they're not good, they're not doing the wrong thing, they're just...unforgiven.

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by Philly on Aug 1st, 2005, 10:10am
Got a chance to see Wedding Crashers last weekend.  I loved it.  I'm a big fan of Owen Wilson (although he seems to be playing the same exact character in every movie now -- it's OK though, because I like the character) and Vince Vaughn (underrated comedic actor).  This is the first time they've starred in a movie together and they are an incredible team - an intriguing study in contrasting comedic styles.  The movie was hilarious.  I'm looking forward to seeing it on DVD because there were times in the theatre where I couldn't hear dialogue because the audience was laughing too loud.  This is also the first movie I've seen with Rachel McAdams ... wow!

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 3rd, 2005, 3:57pm
Top 10 All time
That's really tough!!

10. Rocky
9. Glory
8. My Life As A House [smiley=bawling.gif]
7. Dead Poets Society
6. Saving Private Ryan
5. It's a Wonderful Life
4. The Passion [smiley=bawling.gif]
3. Tombstone
2. The Shawshank Redemption
1. Forrest Gump

This is impossible............
I'm spent just trying to come up with a list...forget trying to explain myself!!!!!!! If you'd like to know why and how...ask.

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Oct 3rd, 2005, 6:25pm
I'd like to know "why and how"...  MC, focus on the "substance"/"quality" (I know I'm departing from Aristotelian categories [smiley=wiseman.gif] AND a Chinese sensibility [smiley=zenmaster.gif] here; I think there is a fusion/sythesis to be performed) of life, not just the mundane littany of things/matters (there I go again) like we (unanimatedly) tend to do.  Share with us "you", NOT the movies!

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 4th, 2005, 2:38pm

on 10/03/05 at 18:25:40, StegRock wrote:
I'd like to know "why and how"...  MC, focus on the "substance"/"quality"


OK Steg, but briefly.....Rocky ....has to be on the list!! My life mirrored his a bit(Albeit a stretch). I found tons of inspiration from Rocky. I was an underdog because I was a hippie in a mostly redneck school. I had to pull out all kinds of inner strength just to go! I did and lettered in 4 sports. I showed MY naysayers that it was inner strength not appearance that made me!!

Glory ....Just an awesome story about conflict...both between a nation divided and race! Classic struggle to gain respect as men. Just the fact that African Americans even wanted to fight for a country that used them as they did, was inspiring to me.

My Life as a House ....Kevin Klein pulled this off to a "T"! A story about a dying father who is desperate to get his kid back from the brink!! Cried my eyes out.

Dead Poets Society ...."Captain, My Captain" ...excerpts from Whitman....Carpe Diem....poetry taught by living life not by the confines of 4 walls in a school!  C'mon, there is something to be said for that.

Saving Private Ryan.... So real...so sad. Gave me a sense of real loss after I watched that show. Our grandfather's were awesome soldiers!!

It's a Wonderful Life..... Capra's magic! Jimmy Stewart was one of only 3 actors whose death made me cry. I love the man. Not only for being endearing on screen, but for the way in which he lived his real life. Integrity is how I'd describe him in one word.

The Passion .....the world would never know of heaven had it not been for His gift. I wept as I envisioned myself as the reason He had to suffer so undeservably.

Tombstone ......Hands down the best western ever made! Not only did we get awesome portrayals of Doc and Wyatt, but we also caught a glimpse into their friendship. The history books do not acurately tell of this friendship despite what Earp's and Holiday's personal papers say about each other.

The Shawshank Redemption ......Never saw the prison break coming!!! Determination fueled by hope. The condition of the human spirit as seen through Andy Dufrain's positive outlook. The look on Red's (Morgan Freeman) face when he saw that Andy escaped was  priceless!! The classic "good guys win in the end" story

Forrest Gump...... This picture had everything. How true it is that our actions can shape the world even if it does so unknown to us. Who couldn't love a story about a simple minded hero!! Tom Hank's is da' man!

Honorable mention:  Here is a short list of other films that have left an immpression on me in one fashion or the other. The Polar Express; The Tuskeegee Airmen; The Family Man; Sgt. York; Endless Summer; Dances With Wolves; and E.T.

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 16th, 2005, 11:39pm

on 10/04/05 at 14:38:14, MordecaiCourage wrote:
Honorable mention:  Here is a short list of other films that have left an immpression on me in one fashion or the other. The Polar Express; The Tuskeegee Airmen; The Family Man; Sgt. York; Endless Summer; Dances With Wolves; and E.T.


I guess I'd be remiss not to add The Exorcist to my Honorable Mention list!! The single-most scariest movie ever made. This movie made such an impact on me as a young boy who snuck into the movie at the theatre!! I was sorry I did!
[smiley=scared.gif]

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jan 8th, 2006, 12:04pm
[offtopic]Gots a question for yous...  I like horror movies and all, but...  Recently I picked up the movie Saw on video (it was in a cheapy bin at Walmart).  In hindsight, I'm thinkin' maybe I shouldn't have...  Has anybody seen this thing or heard much about it?  Bottom line, is this shit gonna freak my ass out??? [smiley=scared.gif] Am I gonna come out of this, or should I say never come out of this, with the shakes, cryin' for momma...???[/offtopic]

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by KillerKingSting on Jan 8th, 2006, 12:51pm
hello Nancy Boy :D,

Yes I saw SAW. (had to say it like that).

GOOD MOVIE!

WATCH IT!

No, it shouldn't freak you out. Rather, its just a good movie but, not one of those brain stamping things that you never forget about - IMO.


Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by Philly on Jan 11th, 2006, 7:56am
Are there any really good horror flicks any more?  Ones that can really scare you and make you think about it for a long time afterward?  I love a good scare, but it seems like most of the horror movies any more are too formulaic and rely on blood and guts rather than truly messing with your head.

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by KillerKingSting on Jan 11th, 2006, 9:16am

on 01/11/06 at 07:56:10, Philly wrote:
Are there any really good horror flicks any more?  Ones that can really scare you and make you think about it for a long time afterward?  I love a good scare, but it seems like most of the horror movies any more are too formulaic and rely on blood and guts rather than truly messing with your head.


I agree. However, have you ever checked out the japanese-based ones and inparticular "The Grudge" and another moreso obvious one(s), the Hole - or ummmmmmmmm (can't remember the name of it - ironic ),....the one in which the girl comes outta the T.V. after watching a video.............I thought was a good series.
Proabably not up there with al-time classics but, good enough nonetheless.

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by KillerKingSting on Jan 11th, 2006, 10:10am

on 01/11/06 at 09:16:59, KillerKingSting wrote:
I agree. However, have you ever checked out the japanese-based ones and inparticular "The Grudge" and another moreso obvious one(s), the Hole - or ummmmmmmmm (can't remember the name of it - ironic ),....the one in which the girl comes outta the T.V. after watching a video.............I thought was a good series.
Proabably not up there with all-time classics but, good enough nonetheless.


The RING. I didn't care too much for the first one - just didn't give me enough of the ugly-dead-chick comin outta the T.V. but,

the 2nd one did and then some!

A very good 1-2 series!

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by Philly on Jan 11th, 2006, 4:04pm
I saw The Ring and liked it (not loved it).  It had its moments.  Never saw the second one because I figured it would just go downhill.

Haven't seen The Grudge because I heard a lot of bad reviews of it from critics and real people.  (Not to imply that critics aren't real people...)  ;)

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by KillerKingSting on Jan 11th, 2006, 4:55pm
I first saw the Grudge in it's japanese version. It kept me going! I loved it! When it came out as an american film - I also loved it though - knew what was basically going to happen the whole time since it was almost just a clone of the asian-made version.

However, with heightened special affects - it was still worth watching.


Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Jan 12th, 2006, 12:30am
Yea,... but,... (and I know this is kind of a late "yea, but..." [smiley=awwgee.gif]) even Japanese movies have gone the way of the gory as Philly mentions regarding American horror movies.  ...  I haven't seen it (yet), but I saw short flicks of it during Halloween on top horror movie countdown-type shows,... and F'N YIKES!!!  Need I say more than... "AUDITION"!!! [smiley=yikes.gif] Just shove that one in your search-engine and see what it says out there... :-X

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by Alexsan on Jan 16th, 2006, 8:58pm
My top five movies are:
5. Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle-- No i dont smoke weed or anything, but I find it facinating how the two characters can go through so much just to eat at a fast food restaurant.
4. Saving Private Ryan-- Directed so well and seems so realistic.
3. UnderWorld-- I think it's just the fact that for once a movie involved werewolves and vampires, and for that i love it.
2. Ferris Bueler's Day off-- A really stupid movie but altogether a classic.
1.  Memoirs of a Geisha-- I have no idea what got me to see this movie, but despite having almost an entire cast of chinese actors/actresses in a japanese based movie I loved it.

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by steelkings on Jan 17th, 2006, 7:11am

Quote:
It's a Wonderful Life..... Capra's magic! Jimmy Stewart was one of only 3 actors whose death made me cry. I love the man. Not only for being endearing on screen, but for the way in which he lived his real life. Integrity is how I'd describe him in one word.



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#9 - It's a Wonderful Life
Okay, the first sappy old movie, a Christmas one no less.  WHATEVER!  Jimmy Stewart is "the man" and Donna Reed is straight-up hot.  I remember someone mentioning non-linear storylines earlier on this thread.  Well, it wasn't taken to the non-linear extremes of today, but the story of this 1946 movie was WAY ahead of its time in that respect.  And, Clarence, if you ain't  when that bell on the Christmas tree rings at the end of the movie, you had better head to the doctor, no, not a psychiatrist, an M.D., because you ain't got a heart.  I am getting teary right now!  I will watch this movie every year for the rest of my life and be entertained each and every time.



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1) Its A Wonderful Life



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It's a Wonderful Life..... Capra's magic! Jimmy Stewart was one of only 3 actors whose death made me cry. I love the man. Not only for being endearing on screen, but for the way in which he lived his real life. Integrity is how I'd describe him in one word.


ITS NOT SO FRIGGIN WONDERFUL

Several years ago I worked for a company called Kartes video and communincations. They rereleased (sold)copies of old movies. My job was the master printer. I would load a film copy of an old movie onto the reel, load up about 500 VCR's and let er rip. The big draw back is that these VCR's as well as the reel needed monitoring. I.E. I had to watch the movies. From about the middle of October to the Middle of December we had to work 10 hr shifts. The most popular movie during that time of year is?? You guessed it. IT'S a fu*%ed up job. I mean ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE. 10 hrs a day for 2 months of ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE. I maybe saw it 12 times a day. The copy process ran a little faster than normal which gave Jimmy Stewart a chipmonk voice. At one point in time I new all the lines to all the actor parts.

I will tell you that at one time we processed an order of 25000 copies of Deep Throat. 3 weeks of that in chipmonk voices will screw you up!

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jan 19th, 2006, 2:39pm
Too funny sk!!! [smiley=LMFAO.gif]

I guess I've seen it about a dozen times but over the span of 42 years. ;)

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by Callie on Jan 19th, 2006, 7:09pm

on 01/19/06 at 14:39:13, MordecaiCourage wrote:
Too funny sk!!! [smiley=LMFAO.gif]

I guess I've seen it about a dozen times but over the span of 42 years. ;)


How many times did you watch Deep Throat?   ;D

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Post by MordecaiCourage on Jan 19th, 2006, 9:39pm

on 01/19/06 at 19:09:03, Callie wrote:
How many times did you watch Deep Throat?   ;D


[smiley=jawdroppin.gif]  Callie!?!?!?!               [smiley=blush.gif]


I don't recall ever watching Deep Throat!!





Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jan 19th, 2006, 9:41pm
                     [smiley=pinocchio.gif]     

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by Callie on Jan 19th, 2006, 9:42pm
(Read the post above the one of yours I quoted.  ;D)

Edit - I should have clarified:


on 01/17/06 at 07:11:24, steelkings wrote:
I will tell you that at one time we processed an order of 25000 copies of Deep Throat. 3 weeks of that in chipmonk voices will screw you up!


BTW - I've seen it.  ;)

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by Callie on Jan 19th, 2006, 11:06pm
You know, I just realized that I'm sitting here making jokes and having fun with you guys about movies, but I've never really told you what I really like.  Not fair on my part.  So....

5. Fred and Ginger movies, pick one

4. Marx Brothers movies, the one I saw last (I usually would say "A Night at the Opera" or "Horse Feathers.")

3. Action/Adventure, probably "ConAir."

2. Movies that show me how day-to-day life was for other people in other times.  If it's accurate, "Gangs of New York" would be a good choice.

1.  Always my top pick, the Allister Simms version, full version, of "A Christmas Carol."

Hope I've made it fair!

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Post by StegRock on Jan 20th, 2006, 12:26am

on 01/19/06 at 21:41:21, MordecaiCourage wrote:
                     [smiley=pinocchio.gif]     


Wasn't that supposed to be... [smiley=dick.jpg]

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by kidcrash on Jan 20th, 2006, 8:37pm

WOW,very funny SHIT.Atta girl Callie  [smiley=blush.gif]

Here is my favorite all time movies

1. High Plains Drifter-Clint Eastwood.IMHO one of the best western movies ever made.Im not a big western movie fan but i love this movie.If by chance you never saw this movie give it a shot.It was filmed in the 1970's
I will not tell you about it.



2.One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest-Jack Nicholson
A movie about patients at a state mental hospital.Another movie from the 70's 1975 to be exact.



3.The Birds-Alfred Hitchcock.Scared the SHIT out of me as a kid.It seemed like every time i went to my grandmothers house for any holiday that movie was on
when the grownups sent the kids to the bedroom when they were going to play cards and tell dirty jokes and have drinks.Sorry another oldie.


4.Seabiscuit-Great movie.Everyone knows about this New classic.



5.The Silence of the lambs.Need I say more.


Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jan 20th, 2006, 11:15pm

on 01/20/06 at 20:37:42, kidcrash wrote:
1. High Plains Drifter-Clint Eastwood.IMHO one of the best western movies ever made.Im not a big western movie fan but i love this movie.If by chance you never saw this movie give it a shot.It was filmed in the 1970's
I will not tell you about it.



2.One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest-Jack Nicholson
A movie about patients at a state mental hospital.Another movie from the 70's 1975 to be exact.


4.Seabiscuit-Great movie.Everyone knows about this New classic.


Yep all three of these were great! That's why in two earlier posts from Oct 3rd and 4th of '05 I said that I thought picking a top ten list was impossible...Well I did manage putting up a list, and even managed to explain why, but you just put 1 more title up I'd have to consider in my top 10..... Seabiscuit.

.....................and while you have me thinking, how about "Legends of the Fall". That would also rate up there for me (and like Seabiscuit) could knock around my "immpossible to rank" top 10 list.

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by steelkings on Jan 21st, 2006, 7:13am
In your video store lies a very good movie



                                                                             CRASH


AWESOME!

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by kidcrash on Jan 21st, 2006, 8:35am
Thanks for the movie tip Steelkings i am going to rent it today. ;D

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by steelkings on Jan 23rd, 2006, 4:33pm
What did you think of Crash?


I saw Lord of war yesterday. What a waste of time and 2.00 dollars. Horrible, horrible, movie!

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by Philly on Jan 24th, 2006, 10:17pm
Crash was an amazing movie.  Sure, it was entertaining and had the all-star cast, but it's quite a thought provoker.

From a critical standpoint, I really enjoy the process of taking multiple storylines and bringing them all together.  Maybe it was how Seinfeld did it or how it was done in Love Actually (another movie I'd highly recommend), but I find that process fascinating.

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on May 21st, 2006, 7:34am

on 01/08/06 at 12:04:08, StegRock wrote:
[offtopic]Gots a question for yous...  I like horror movies and all, but...  Recently I picked up the movie Saw on video (it was in a cheapy bin at Walmart).  In hindsight, I'm thinkin' maybe I shouldn't have...  Has anybody seen this thing or heard much about it?  Bottom line, is this shit gonna freak my ass out??? [smiley=scared.gif] Am I gonna come out of this, or should I say never come out of this, with the shakes, cryin' for momma...???[/offtopic]


I FINALLY got around to popping this in and was, alas, able to see Saw (see-saw... [smiley=goodrevil.gif]... I've been waiting to type that [smiley=awwgee.gif]).  It was okay.  It gets a little drab there for a while...  It's ALL ABOUT the ending...  Sweeeeet misdirection and twist...  But, still, overall,... eh...

I also watched, at the recommendation of one of my kid colleagues here at UH, Sin City.  Again, another "eh" flick...  It was creative,... but I found it rather shallow and, well, kiddish.  It is based on a comic book, so...  This, I think, is one of those generational things.  This colleague of mine, 22 years old, thinks this movie is the best thing since the invention of ice cream.  It's maybe how I felt back in the day about a movie like Escape From New York or something...

Anyway, I'm just happy that I have a bit of a life again (outside of Symbolic Logic)... :)

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on May 24th, 2006, 4:28pm
Well, over the last six or so months I had picked up two more videos and finally queued them up over the last few nights...  Friggin' HORENDOUS...

Looking to satisfy my hankering for horror (as Saw really didn't do it), I gave The Devil's Rejects a spin.  YIKES!  It's wasn't horror...  It was just horrible.  That's what the "horror/thriller" genre calls entertainment these days.  What happened to the good old SCARE... [smiley=scared.gif] Gore and graphic violence do not equal a scare.  Mind you, there are gory, graphically violent movies that can provide a good scare.  Just think back to The Exorcist.  But gore and graphic violence just for the sake of gore and graphic violence seems to me to only have an appeal to,... well,... sick minds.

Next, I tried out a movie that I actually had heard wasn't good, but it was only $1.99 and I like action, super hero stuff...  The X-men...  Holy, CRAP!  I mean really...  Holy, CRAP, Batman! [smiley=batman.gif] Can someone call up the Super Friends to save this thing?  ...  It was a smidgeon better than the former movie, but that's not really saying anything.

Of these four movies I've mentioned in my last couple posts that I happened to get my hands on, I've seen nothing but a bunch of "'eh' crap". :P I got to stay away from the $1.99-$5.99 bins at Walmart... [smiley=dunce.gif] ... [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif]

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by BarnabyWilde on May 24th, 2006, 4:45pm
Being a big fan of super hero movies, I thought the X-Men movies were pretty good. Not great, but good. Looking forward to seeing X-Men 3 in the theaters.

Steg-, was it the 1st or 2nd X-Men movie you purchased? I liked the 2nd one a bit better than the 1st.

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on May 24th, 2006, 5:04pm
The first...

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by Callie on May 24th, 2006, 5:25pm
I like the X-Men, and I liked the first movie a lot.  It's based on a comic book series.  Think of it as a comic book thing and try it again.  :D

Did you ever watch the X-Men cartoon series?  I think they captured the characters from the comic books and the cartoon series very well!

(PS - I want to be Storm  ;D)

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on May 24th, 2006, 5:47pm

on 05/24/06 at 17:25:06, Callie wrote:
I like the X-Men, and I liked the first movie a lot.  It's based on a comic book series.  Think of it as a comic book thing and try it again.  :D


That's funny...  That's EXACTLY what my friend who lent me Sin City said...  I've never been into comic books, so that's not likely to help (me see it in a different light)... :-/


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Did you ever watch the X-Men cartoon series?  I think they captured the characters from the comic books and the cartoon series very well!

(PS - I want to be Storm  ;D)


I think so,... but not religiously, so,... again,... I am at a loss.

Storm, by the way, is... [smiley=lickinmychops.gif] But,... not as much as Calleigh from CSI, for me at least (as per the other thread).  However,... throw her in there with my Asian cutie and Ms. Procter,... ... I can't control my drool... ;)

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by steelkings on May 25th, 2006, 7:05am
They are making a brand new X Men Feature Film


These dudes
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:ble5Al2wA6yKSM:www.merrittsbakery.com/party/IMAGES/eimages/X-Men.jpg Team up with
These dudes
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:c_Xkf0CjWVWNfM:jimjacobson.com/images/stooges.gif
To take on this horrible creature
http://www.rotten.com/library/culture/godzilla/godzilla2.jpg
In turn saving these scared citizens who paused momentarily for a happy snap shot before returning to a state of panic
http://www.southofboston.net/specialreports/chinatown/images/asians-dt-062903-8.jpgSpecial mattinee pricing will apply.

A Gridiron/ Steelkings/la-choi filmway production

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jul 21st, 2006, 4:39pm
Took my boys to see the 3-D  [smiley=threed.gif] version of Monster House today. If you are a fan of animation and of 3-D, you'd be happy with this one! Several small children there to see it too, and many screamed and cried. For small kids (under 6) it was pretty frightening I guess. My boys and I loved it (youngest is 6). This was worth the money just for the 3-D for me.

http://mud.mm-da.yimg.com/image/1624066630

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by MordecaiCourage on Nov 28th, 2006, 11:09pm
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/samuel_goldwyn_films/facing_the_giants/facingthegiants_bigposter.jpg  


[smiley=twothumbsup.gif] This movie was GREAT!!!!  [smiley=twothumbsup.gif]

If you want to see a movie that has great family value...this is it! There are no-name actors in this film and initially it seems like a B movie. Despite the slow start, you'll quickly get into the story line and it will grab ya' !! Great David and Goliath story. This movie was only in 5 theatres in all of Houston so if you are in a small town you probably didn't get it, you'll have to rent it when it comes out. Great football setting but the movie is MORE than that.

Wholesome = Awesome

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by Drew Rosenhaus on Dec 11th, 2006, 3:53pm
BORAT

If you like his humor, the movie is fantastic. I know I missed all sorts of jokes the first go-through because I was laughing so much.



http://www.borat.tv/images/pop_up_01.jpg


Very nice.

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jul 30th, 2007, 11:51pm
Transformers was great! My boys loved it, non-stop action. I'm not sure if the storyline followed the toy's storyline or not. But it was really good. I'm not into these types of movies at all normally. I'd give it two thumbs up. Had some cussing and sexual references in it that bothered me >:(, but all in all, a fun movie.

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Aug 3rd, 2007, 6:14pm
Well, I got my first dose of reality [smiley=doseofreality.gif] that I am getting "old". [smiley=wiseman.gif] I am no longer in sync with what's entertaining and funny for the youth of America.  The Mrs. and I, in highly anticipated fashion, took the rare opportunity last night to take in a dinner and a movie, I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry.  I'm so disappointed in Adam Sandler and Kevin James.  I got more liberal politics out of it than laughs.  I didn't even come close to a hearty belly laugh, no less tearing up with laughter.  As regards their message, understanding, acceptance and softening language is one thing, but mainstreaming is another.   I mean the ambiance in the theater became so full of politically correct hot air, that the youngins in the theater with us couldn't even bring themselves to laugh at the funny lines of the villian of the movie played by Steve Buscemi.  During the climactic scene of the movie, I found myself, somewhat embarrassingly, all alone laughing out loud [smiley=LMFAO.gif] at one of his lines. :-[ And, the left accuses the right of demonizing people.  Gimme a break! [smiley=gimmeabreak.gif] THIS was supposed to be a comedy, for goodness sake.  The irony is that the very political correctness of their political message is what restricted their comedic liberties.  Here we go with that "meta-level" stuff again...  They couldn't do the things that would have made the story funny.  I expected the movie to play off of the awkward situations that two very straight guys pretending to be in a gay marriage would find themselves in.  I thought there would be scenes where James and Sandler, two "guys guys", would have to deal with the "funny" situation of acting obviously effeminate, i.e. like total flamers, in public or something and more scenes where their gay charade, so to speak, would be put "comedically" to the test.  Political correctness precluded virtually all of the former and much of the latter.  I also thought that with Sandler, whose perhaps greatest skill is to infuse his work with heart, there would be that climactic kleenex moment that pulls at your heart strings.  The story was totally set up that way as they had rigged this marriage precisely for Larry's children, i.e. so as to avoid a loveless (heterosexual) marriage, which could jeopardize Larry's children's claims to his pension.  But, the moviemakers got too caught up in making their political point, that that got lost.  They even went as far as to make Larry's son queer.  That kid just became annoying.  I even thought ahead at what the heart-tugging moment could have been, but also thought to myself that there was no way I would be able to generate any emotion for this kid.  Though not as explicitly, in their gender-bending agenda, they even made his daughter a bit of a tomboy, although I could have generated some tears for her.  This movie was total garbage... [smiley=thumbsdown.gif]

Bring back on [smiley=gladiator.gif] 300,... plEEEEEase!!! [smiley=yes.gif]

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on Feb 3rd, 2008, 11:04pm
Well, with the Super Bowl now over, I want to pass this goodie I just saw on DVD on to yous...  It's a German film called Der Tunnel, The Tunnel.  East-West Germany movie...  You can guess the theme.  It isn't something I would ever watch on my own, other than by chance if it ever made it's way onto a cable channel I happened to tune to.  One of my students at Kaplan is a film student.  He passed it on to me.  Big thumbs up!  Make that two... [smiley=twothumbsup.gif] You won't be disappointed, I think...  Just set aside enough time.  It's a bit lengthy, 2 hours 40 minutes.  Definitely check it out, though! [smiley=yes.gif]

Title: Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Movies
Post by StegRock on May 16th, 2008, 2:44am
Holy CRAP...  I just saw No Country For Old Men tonight (with my students as my classes begin to wind down)...  My gawd...  The only good thing that came out of it is that I finally came up with a philosophical definition for "in style" or "in fashion"...  The definition of "in style" or "in fashion" is, whether it's good or bad, it's good (at least, to the media-driven masses).  That'll be in my book of aphorisms someday. [smiley=yes.gif]



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