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(Message started by: Callie on Sep 7^th, 2003, 11:50pm)

Title: Refs Against the Raiders Yet Again
Post by Callie on Sep 7^th, 2003, 11:50pm

Who watched this game?
Hate the Raiders or love the Raiders, you've gotta see it.
What do you think?

Title: Re: Refs Against the Raiders Yet Again
Post by Referee on Sep 8^th, 2003, 12:30am

Definitely some questionable officiating in the game tonight, Callie! They were without a doubt flag-happy. Good post! However, based on our message-board descriptions here on "the Gridiron", the topic of this thread is indubitably more appropriate on "the Sidelines" than it is here in "the Red Zone". As such, it will be moved there for continued discussion. Thank you for your anticipated understanding and future compliance. [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: Refs Against the Raiders Yet Again
Post by Philly on Sep 8^th, 2003, 7:02am

on 09/07/03 at 23:50:52, Callie wrote:

Who watched this game?
Hate the Raiders or love the Raiders, you've gotta see it.
What do you think?

Those refs were a bit picky about not letting the Raiders O-linemen get a head start by moving before the ball was snapped.

Let's not let our loyalties get the best of us here. As an impartial observer, I thought the refs were a bit overzealous about throwing the flag, but they did it both ways. Tennessee also had 11 penalties for more than 110 yards. The real difference between the two teams were all those false-starts by the Raiders, which is not a subjective call by the refs.

Title: Re: Refs Against the Raiders Yet Again
Post by StegRock on Sep 8^th, 2003, 11:39am

Not to mention, the Raiders benefited HUGELY from two of the "bigger" calls of the night, that Robaire Smith "unsportsmanlike conduct" episode, which was the (long e) most punishing penalty of the night occuring on what amounted to 4th-and-22 and after which the Raiders went on to score a TD, and that ticky-tacky "late hit" call on Samari Rolle, which kept that Raider drive alive and led to a field goal. I don't know... That's 10 Raider points right there very much so "assisted" by the zebras. On top of that, though I think the "tuck" rule needs amending, the Raiders also benefited BIG-time from that "incorrect, according to the rules," call on Steve McNair's fumble. Didn't the Raiders get a field goal after that as well? That's 13 of their points partially attributable to zebra assistance. But, I digress, back to the penalties, this is nothing new for the Raider Nation. Isn't gettin' penalties the Raider m.o. or at least signature? [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: Refs Against the Raiders Yet Again
Post by Callie on Sep 8^th, 2003, 6:31pm

The call that bothered me the most was the touchdown that wasn't. Couldn't have stayed in the end zone, got pushed, got the TD. The strip before the whistle that became the strip after the whistle was also very important in how the game came out in the end. If you watched, like many other games for all sorts of teams, the announcers were very clear about what they saw and how bad the calls were. Hey, we saw the replays over and over again. I think it applies to fantasy a lot if you own one of the players who lost those fantasy points. (I didn't, but I feel your pain.) Beyond that, I feel it's long past the time when we should have full time professional refs who get paid for good expertise. Not part timers. But maybe that should be another thread....

Title: Re: Refs Against the Raiders Yet Again
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Sep 8^th, 2003, 6:38pm

That Superbowl fiasco was the ref's fault too! [smiley=tonguin.gif]

Title: Re: Refs Against the Raiders Yet Again
Post by Callie on Sep 8^th, 2003, 7:20pm

Chucky had the Raiders' playbook and beat em fair and square.

Title: Re: Refs Against the Raiders Yet Again
Post by StegRock on Sep 8^th, 2003, 7:54pm

on 09/08/03 at 00:30:10, Referee wrote:

Guess it's the ref's fault here too. ;) Ref's everywhere and of all kinds just hate the Raiders and their fans. It's a conspiracy. [smiley=gonecrazy.gif]

Title: Re: Refs Against the Raiders Yet Again
Post by Callie on Sep 8^th, 2003, 8:19pm

Naah. Jealousy!

Title: Re: Refs Against the Raiders Yet Again
Post by Noey21 on Sep 10^th, 2003, 9:24am

I would say HORRIBLE officials. But not biased one way or the other. I was listening to the game on the Raiders broadcast (Ticket 1050) and they were sure that McNair's fumble would be reversed even the Raiders bench was. But, it wasn't. So don't think that POOR Raiders stuff again.

Learn to not start early and keep the kickoffs inbounds.

Oh well it will be another long season.
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