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Title: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Nov 6th, 2003, 6:55am the Bleachers If you want to chat about anything under the sun besides football and without its having to be intertwined in a football-related conversation, such as other sports, baby announcements, cooking, pets, politics, economics, religion, philosophy, sex, chicks, books, whatever, etc., etc., as long as it is not covered by one of our other "thematic" threads like the "Happy Birthdays to our fellow Gridironers" thread or the "Get to know your Gridironers" threads, this "STICKY THREAD" is for you! Enjoy! Link to the prior (in this case, the original) "the Bleachers" sticky thread: http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=58;action=display;num=1051295537. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Nov 7th, 2003, 2:55pm Okay, I'm going to kick this "the Bleachers" sticky thread off with something that has been having me shaking my head in puzzlement for quite some time. Do any of you watch any 24-hour news channels? If so, maybe even if not, you know that FOX News and CNN are basically "bitter" rivals. The former is considered the (first-ever) conservative news channel; whereas, the latter is the well-known historically liberal news channel (although they have somewhat come back to center post 9/11... but are starting to drift back way left). Anyway, I have NEVER in my life seen a show from one channel/network be advertised on another one, at least not a rivaling network of the same genre. So then, how is it that Anderson Cooper's show 360 on CNN has a commercial running on FOX? [smiley=uh.gif] Has anybody else out there noticed this? It runs a lot during the Hannity & Colmes show. I don't get it! [smiley=lost.gif] It's like CBS's having advertisements for Monday Night Football. It just "don't" make sense! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Nov 7th, 2003, 3:19pm CBS and ABC don't make money when someone watches the other channel, hence no MNF ads on CBS. Maybe the reason you see a CNN commercial on Fox News is because your local cable company sells the spots, not Fox News? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Nov 7th, 2003, 6:03pm Well, you'd think FOX (and any channel/network) would make sure to have a clause in their contracts with cable companies to avoid such a situation. I mean I've NEVER seen such a thing. You don't see CNN/SI getting plugged on ESPN. I mean I get what you're sayin', but it doesn't totally make sense. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Nov 7th, 2003, 8:06pm on 11/07/03 at 18:03:40, StegRock wrote:
I am not proud, but I am a frequent TV watcher. You see this all the time now. They are all owned by the same company. Viacom owns MTV, Cartoon Channel, CBS, VH1, etc..... You now see VH1 Commercials on MTV. MTV does the superbowl half time show for CBS. The big conspiracy is that they are all owned by the German banks. [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Nov 7th, 2003, 8:09pm Changing the topic... My wife and I don't get out much. With three kids under six, my work schedule and her being exhausted watching daycare kids all day along with ours, we just end up staying home, or have Noey21 and his wife over to play cards. Tonight, we got a sitter to watch the kids so we can go to a movie. Problem is, we can't agree on what to see!! She wants either Runaway Jury or Texas Chain Saw Masacre. I want Mystic River or Elf. The one movie we agree on, Scary Movie 3, starts too late for her. So, to compromise, we are going bowling... ;D |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Nov 7th, 2003, 8:18pm on 11/07/03 at 20:09:58, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Enjoy bowling!! Hope you have fun! And there is nothing better than a good card game. However, I recommend Mystic River. It is a GREAT movie!!! As much as I hate Tim Robbins as a person, he was excellent in the movie. And for some unknown reason, I really like Kevin Bacon in movies. But, most importantly, it is a great story with a great ending. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Nov 7th, 2003, 8:23pm Enjoy rollin' tonight, BW! Bowling is a great sport, really. Big-time bowler here! :D I've gotta' hammer this other issue out here, though... on 11/07/03 at 20:06:51, DirkDiggler wrote:
But, DD, I am almost certain that CNN and FOX are NOT owned by the same company. Correct me if I'm wrong. It's one thing with "music television" stations, but with news networks SO PITTED AGAINST ONE ANOTHER, it's whack! [smiley=whatever.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by steelkings on Nov 7th, 2003, 10:17pm A commercial ? Was it a beer commercial? Im with ya? I love beer? [smiley=ragin.gif] Was it a German Beer? [smiley=cheers.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Tony_O on Nov 8th, 2003, 10:50am on 11/07/03 at 20:23:51, StegRock wrote:
Somehow I'm not surprised your an avid bowler! ;D Pictures say a thousand words! [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=cantcatch.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Nov 8th, 2003, 12:01pm Man, we pulled up to the bowling alley at 7 pm, and there was not a parking space in the lot! We ended up going over Noey21's house for some foosball, ping-pong and poker. Had a nice time too! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Noey21 on Nov 8th, 2003, 7:58pm Bowling sucks it is bad for the knees..............stick with TV and gambling. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Nov 10th, 2003, 9:22am I think enough people were let-down with Matrix Reloaded that the latest installment didn't do too well this weekend. It was still the #1 movie in the box office, but it did so much less than Reloaded did in its first weekend. Anyway, I managed to get out to see a movie this weekend (with our 5 1/2 month old - though he slept through most of the movie). We saw "Love Actually" and it was really good. I wasn't expecting much and was pleasantly surprised. It was very funny and well-acted. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Nov 10th, 2003, 1:18pm on 11/10/03 at 09:22:09, Philly wrote:
Dude-- VERY VERY brave of you to take a child to the movie. I have not been daring enough to do that. At least you had a good time. Love Actually is one of those movies on our list for rental when it comes out on DVD. My wife and I are going to the Matrix tomorrow. Despite all the bad reviews, I look forward to it. My son will be in day care. WHew hoo!! Parents day out!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Nov 10th, 2003, 1:32pm on 11/10/03 at 13:18:36, DirkDiggler wrote:
Love Actually might be a better DVD movie than a big-screen movie. There are 10 different stories occurring simultaneously, so repeated viewings may help to sort out the characters a bit better. I'm also looking forward to the DVD to see what was edited out of the movie. Anyway, my wife takes Darren (our son) to the movies every week when a local theatre has a "Reel Moms" promotion. They open the theatre at 10:00 AM and show a different movie each week (last week Mystic River, this week Elf...) and the entire theatre is filled with parents and their infants. Pretty good idea because everyone is in the same boat and is more tolerant (though etiquette still insists that criers need to leave until they are happy again). So she is familiar with how he reacts to movies... when he begins to fuss even a little bit, she feeds him and he generally falls asleep. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Nov 10th, 2003, 4:55pm on 11/10/03 at 13:32:06, Philly wrote:
:o [smiley=lickinmychops.gif] ... [smiley=titflash.gif] [smiley=newbie.gif] ... Where's this theater? I'm VERY fussy! [smiley=yes.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Nov 14th, 2003, 9:41pm I've got a good one for yous... The New York City school system just passed a school "law" prohibiting cell phones in school, period and across the board because they are considered a distraction and an obstacle to the educational environment. I can "appreciate" that. Whether they are on or off, they are to be confiscated. How they will precisely go about that, I don't know, and though I am not sure where I stand on the issue (actually, more accurately put, I'm not sure if I even care to have a stance on the issue), the flaws in logic and common sense of those, the students and parents, fighting it is laughable and, well, indicative of a, well, very American brand of rationalization. Those fighting it claim that the policy is not good because parents and their children lose their ability to contact each other (24-7, I guess ::) ), and they, moreover, argue that point in light of tragedies like 9/11 and the big '03 blackout. Well, the report(er) ignores the glaring question that is begged: What did we (all) used to do before cell phones, which was NOT long ago? So, we will too! Still, though, come on, kids and parents who are suckers for their kids, these kids ain't carrying around their cell phones so mommy and daddy can monitor them, quite the contrary. I would confidently venture that 90+% of the usage of kids' cell phones is to chat with their friends. Let's get real! Well, actually, that point was never made during the report, either. Of course, all the parents, like marionettes of their kids, pointed out the importance of their kids having their cell phones during tragedies, a premise that is flawed twofold. For one, so typical and yet so childish, these folks are arguing a day-to-day issue in terms of extremes. Come on, my kid needs his/her cell phone 365 days a year just in case another 9/11 happens. [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] Have you also equipped them with their terrorist survival pack? ::) Of course, this is ignoring the fact that during tragedies, especially like 9/11, but also the '03 blackout, cell phones were not working (at least not reliably). This, too, was completely ignored in the report. So, it's a pretty convincing case when only one side is broadcast... reported. [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] Whatever, I just get a laugh how people can convince themselves of the most silly of shit! :-/ |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Noey21 on Nov 16th, 2003, 3:26am I think this is awesome. Maybe I should have my wife bring this up at the next school board meeting. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Nov 16th, 2003, 11:39am Yea, Noey, and the arguments against it that you guys would experience out in Cali, just given the locale, should be A LOT less, well, poingnant... weighty. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Nov 18th, 2003, 1:38am I can't stand the liberal media. It will be that which destroys our country if it is left unfettered... On Nightline tonight, they reported on our (military's) efforts to quell renegade attacks on our soldiers in Iraq. First, they visit Tikrit, Sadam's hometown. Gee, that'll give us both sides of the coin. NOT! But, okay, this segment is about the casualties we're sustaining and you can't go to the "peaceful" areas (which do exist, though... up in the north and in the far south, but are rarely reported about). Those aren't the places we are sustaining casualties in. But, then, they go to a neighborhood in Baghdad where one of the residents "admits" that most of his neighbors are "Sadam loyalists" and that the Americans are being shot at "from all sides". As such, to fight back without just blowing shit up, our military performed a night house raid in the neighborhood. They claim it was a success, ferreting out dozens of anti-American renegade soldiers and their weapons. The following day they interview one of the residents of the neighborhood, remember an admittedly Sadam loyalist neighborhood, who tells them how, because of the raids, the Americans are now "more" hated in the neighborhood. Uh, duh! Sadam loyalists who we are pushing around. They are NOT going to "like" us, but that's not the point. The point is have they been diffused! Whatever, if they didn't do the raids and our boys were shot down in that neighborhood on that day, instead of ABC's being able to do interviews with the locals, they'd be reporting that. ... Then, they went on with a report on collateral damage, "innocent" Iraqi citizens who die in the crossfire. They close the show with a report about the soldiers from Fort Campbell who died in the blackhawk helicopter accident. ... Listen, you can hate the "stuffy" attitudes of many "conservatives" and you can hate FOX News, BUT at least their reports are cogent. On the other hand, the pervasive liberal media is all over the place (literally and figuratively); whatever subjectively makes sense at whatever given moment and fits their liberal agenda dictates what gets reported and how it gets reported. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by steelkings on Nov 18th, 2003, 9:23am I know what you mean. I saw the real report by Fox news detailing how we got the information about Saddam and the Evil do'ers to begin with. You see, Condellesa told George W. that she herd from Bill Bob at the trailer park, who talked with cleedus, who herd from Lola who saw Saddam holding a Weapon of mass destruction at the 7/11 Super Mart. Nothing Liberal or conservitive about it , our nations economy is crumbling at our feet. We close schools at an alarming rate. This is a sports site. check the fiscal strenth of your Physical Ed programs. Here in Indy they have cut the I.T programs in 1/2. Schools are dropping programs such as FOOTBALL, BASEBALL to save money. We have a friend that lives inner city. Thier son go's to IPS.(Indianapolis Public Schools) There is 32 kids in his home room class. IPS will close 2 more schools next year. 700 people lost there jobs here when small town plant closed. It will kill the whole town. Our leadership needs to worry about those issues. Somebody remind me again why americans and Iraqies are dying. Somebody remind me again why we are spending billions of dollars to maintain a presents in Iraq. I dont feel that the current leadership has been real clear on it to begin with. First it was WOMD. Now its tied to 9-11 and Bin Laden. I have an Idea of what to do with Bin Laden , Saddom and the middle East. Kill those rat bastards, quit spending my money on war maintance and spend more time finding a way to blame this on Clinton. Quote:
Im kinda concerned about that whole freedom of speech thing. All though I almost said the same thing. My quote was.... I cant stand reality TV. It will be that which destroys our country if left unfettered.... |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Nov 18th, 2003, 9:52am Sometimes I think that a nationalist policy would be best. Let's not worry about other countries. Screw France, Israel, Palestine, Iraq, China, North Korea, Fiji, Florida (oops, that's one of ours)... whoever. Let them fend for themselves. All of the money that we send to (spend on) other countries could be better spent if it was put into our own infrastructure. Unfortunately, that's not a realistic idea. The Middle East, left unchecked, is a pot boiling over. Saddam Hussein is not a reasonable person. He killed his own country's citizens if they so much as sneezed the wrong way. The treatment of women is disgraceful. Even if he didn't help to fund terrorism (which is still to be determined), he did nothing to discourage it. Does Saddam have ties to Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin-Laden? No one has proved that he hasn't. Bush receives a great deal of criticism for his military action against Iraq without it being approved by the UN. Those critics will tell you that the main reason he put the focus on Iraq was to take the focus off the US economy and the Enron fiasco. But those same critics seem to have forgotten that Bill Clinton sent military forces into Bosnia without UN approval right around the time that his self-created scandals were heating up. I think the original point here was that the media tends to be a bit too ambitious to find fault with the current administration's decisions and not to laud their good ones. What happened to the idea that the media was supposed to present an unbiased report of the events? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Nov 18th, 2003, 1:26pm Along the lines of what Philly says, the REAL goal with and the ULTIMATE determinations of the success of all our efforts these days are long-term and won't even be realized/known for at least 10 to 15 years and probably not REALLY for 25 to 50 years. History will be the judge... as it always is (as most of this kind of stuff is done by looking far down the road, lifetimes down the road, which your average people just looking around themselves can't comprehend). If in 20 to 50 years we have succeeded with building a "South Korea" out of the rubble that is Iraq and Afganistan, we will have succeeded BIG-TIME. Two muslim nations basically on either side of the middle east joining modernity and becoming part of the rest of the modern world. HUGE SUCCESS! If it can be done in South Korea, it can be done in those places. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Nov 21st, 2003, 1:08pm Well, I started vacation this past Sunday. Three weeks off! Nice! Started off with a little cleaning of the garage and getting all of the Christmas decorations out of the shed so the wife can go through them. Last night, went to the Simon and GArfunkle concert (my late father was a big fan, so I grew up on their music) It was a great show, they brought out the Everly Brothers for about four numbers, which was cool. Now, I am going to [smiley=mickey.gif] for five days with the family. It will be Mason (5) and Brady's (almost 4) second trip, and Emmas (14 months) first. Should be a blast! Then, it's Thanksgiving, and then the Christmas decorations go up the following weekend. So, I will be off the board for a few days. Everyone have a great Thanksgiving!!! BW |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by steelkings on Nov 28th, 2003, 10:29pm Just in case the Philly football heads were not paying attention. The Pacers just kicked your ass |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Nov 29th, 2003, 9:04am on 11/28/03 at 22:29:15, steelkings wrote:
I think you're smoking some crack there steelkings... The Eagles don't play the Pacers, they play the Panthers this week. I don't think they have the Pacers on their schedule at all this year. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by steelkings on Nov 29th, 2003, 5:48pm oh yeah! The next thing you will be tellin me is that Iversons not the quarterback of the flyers either. Duh! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Mr. Milloy on Dec 5th, 2003, 2:31pm HOLY YIT... It is snowin' fat! [smiley=jawdroppin.gif] Let the inches pile! [smiley=snowman.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Dec 8th, 2003, 5:54pm So, do any of you guys have a take on this "week-long state-sanctioned bear hunt" in New Jersey? My gut tells me it ain't right. Fuel my fire or convince me otherwise. I'm pretty open on this one [smiley=shrug.gif] though it just don't seem like the right way to be going about reducing/stabilizing the bear population. What do you all think? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by PrimeTime on Dec 8th, 2003, 8:20pm I'm not up on the NJ rules, but in PA they do a good job of managing the population. (Deer and Bear) I'm not a hunter, but I support their "sport". (Although I must say it is the only sport I know of where one side doesn't know they are playing!) As far as the bears go....Every dead one is one less that can take a bite out of me. Go Hunters!! [smiley=firinback.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Dec 9th, 2003, 8:49am I'm also not a hunter and want nothing to do with guns, but I agree that hunting has its place. Being from the good end of Jersey (the southern end), we don't have a black bear issue, so I don't really know how bad a problem it is. But if the population is growing too quickly, then I don't have a real problem with it as long as it is "supervised" (i.e., the population is not too thinned, hunting takes place in safe areas, etc.). Where I work in Princeton, there is an annual deer hunt that attracts a similar amount of attention. The deer population is much too big and needs to be curbed. I think in recent years, instead of a hunt, they've looked to use deer birth control to limit the population. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by CoachH on Dec 9th, 2003, 3:11pm dsgggyy |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Dec 9th, 2003, 4:21pm on 12/09/03 at 15:11:52, CoachH wrote:
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Mr. Malloy on Dec 9th, 2003, 4:41pm And that's how he makes it to "Assistant Coach"!?!? [smiley=nono.gif] ... There must be some kind of message there, perhaps in the form of an acronym... Maybe it's a crytoquote... [smiley=shrug.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Mr. Malloy on Dec 9th, 2003, 8:50pm Many of you know that I have been without my better half (well, all of you know that there must be a better half to Steggie ;) ) for going on a year now and a few of you are aware of her coming here soon and our "renewal of vows/stateside wedding" ceremony that is planned for the 20th of the month. Well, she was originally scheduled to arrive on the 18th, BUT NOW SHE IS ARRIVING EARLIER!!! The plane-ticket procurement system over there is quite a bit different than it is here and she was confirmed for the 18th, but also on a waiting list for THIS SATURDAY, THE 13th, and she just got word that a seat for her for the 13th JUST OPENED UP!!! Woo-hoo!!! [smiley=woohoo.gif][smiley=hooters.gif] Steggie will definitely be on a bit of a hiatus come the 21st when we leave for a "honeymoon" of sorts, but he may be a bit "busy" and out of the loop here a little earlier than that now. [smiley=whistle.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Dec 10th, 2003, 9:41am Congrats! Enjoy your time together. How long is she sticking around before heading back to her side of the world? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Mr. Malloy on Dec 10th, 2003, 2:06pm Two weeks, a week of which we will be going down on some Bahama mamas... I mean, we will be down in the Bahamas. ;) [smiley=whistle.gif] But, a month after, I'll be seeing her for a month on that side of the rock (as an extra last leg of my ? ? ? tour). [smiley=dancin.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by steelkings on Dec 11th, 2003, 11:16am Quote:
I dont own a gun either, However ;D a. The number of physicians in the US is 700,000. b. Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year is 120,000. c. Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171. (US Dept. of Health & Human Services) Then Think About This: a. The number of gun owners in the US is 80,000,000. b. The number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups) is 1,500. c. The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .0000188. Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners. FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Dec 11th, 2003, 12:33pm So you're saying that the next time I'm walking around in Philly late at night I should be more worried about a thug jumping out of the shadows and pointing a doctor at me than a gun? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Mr. Malloy on Dec 11th, 2003, 2:10pm on 12/11/03 at 12:33:37, Philly wrote:
[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] ... I actually don't own a gun, either. We're 0-for-3! Maybe we can ferret out this 80,000,000, roughly 30% of our total population. Anyway,... I'm guessing steelkings's post is at least somewhat tongue-in-cheek. The scary thing is that I could see the NRA present such statistics with straight faces. [smiley=silence.gif] Comparing "doctors" and "guns" in the manner above is illogical and ludicrous. In any event, deaths caused accidentally is at best not even half the issue, at worst not the issue at all. The concern is more for deaths caused PURPOSEFULLY! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by steelkings on Dec 11th, 2003, 10:29pm on 12/11/03 at 12:33:37, Philly wrote:
Only if its a fully loaded kavorkian. :) :D ;D 8-) ;D ;) :) ;D |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by captainpurple on Dec 12th, 2003, 9:54am Gun ownership is a meaningless stat anyway. The guns we don't know about are the ones causing deaths in most cases. I'm from the midwest, and our house, as well as most of my friends houses as I was growing up had guns. Much of the time they stood in the back corner of the closet, unloaded. I suspect the huge gun ownership base stats are counting those unloaded .22s that haven't been shot for 3 years. As far as hunting, I loved it when I lived in ND. Something about being out with your Dad and brothers, on your family's own land, in the fresh air. It was some of the best bonding time our family ever spent together, I'll always cherish those memories. There's no way to explain hunting to a non-hunter who doesn't like it. My wife hates hunting, abhores guns and feels the "killers" must get some sick pleasure out of it. I've tried many times to explain to her the killing is a) out of necessity to keep the deer population from eating every crop you plant, b) out of necessity to keep the deer from starving, c) completely about family bonding time for us, d) etc. etc. etc. She just doesn't like guns, and I think that's where a lot of the anomosity toward hunting comes from. I finally found the ticket though! Fishing! She loves fishing! What's the difference!!?? ..... I'll let you know how it turns out! :-/ |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Dec 13th, 2003, 6:39pm on 12/09/03 at 20:50:32, Mr. Malloy wrote:
Headed to Newark International [smiley=cruisin.gif] right now to get the wife! [smiley=pimpin.gif] [smiley=titflash.gif] See yous later, fellas, way later! ;) [smiley=wave.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Dec 14th, 2003, 3:09pm HEY, we got that bastard Saddam today! My gal brought (the) US some good luck! [smiley=shamrock.gif] [smiley=bow.gif] ... The good outcome that will be realized eventually and can be perceived by those who are not looking at things so short-sightedly is now much more effable. [smiley=yes.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Dec 15th, 2003, 10:29pm So I assume the wifey arrived ? Did she have a good flight over? As far as the capture of Saddam, I am glad they got the bastard. But, I am having a hard time getting excited. He basically has been a non factor for a while now. IMO, I actually think their will be a short term gain in Iraq with his capture. But in the long run I think it may be worse. Why you ask? I lot of current Iraqi's have been hesitant to be against the US with violence because it is deemed pro-Hussain. But once he his out of the way, I think more Iraqis will become anti-US because it will not be viewed as pro-Hussain. Just my 2 |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Noey21 on Dec 21st, 2003, 6:14pm Haven't been on in forever. But my two sense. Saying we are doing something for the population is B.S. We say that here in California also...but the truth is we have invaded on the animals lands. I myself am no hunter nor a gun owner...which is a good thing....I say protect the animals and kill the stupid people. [smiley=cheers.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Dec 21st, 2003, 11:37pm Look out! Bob's back with a vengence!!! What, no disc golf tourney this weekend? ;) And it's cents, like money, not sense, what Vinny doesn't have! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by captainpurple on Dec 23rd, 2003, 9:08am on 12/21/03 at 18:14:58, Noey21 wrote:
You state this straw-man argument, and follow it with an admission that you have no idea what you're talking about: on 12/21/03 at 18:14:58, Noey21 wrote:
on 12/21/03 at 18:14:58, Noey21 wrote:
I sure can't argue with the fact that we humans refuse to stem the encroachment on wildlife habitat. But every time we in AZ try to pass a suburban sprawl limit, it gets shot down. How about in Cali? If we aren't willing to limit our sprawl and continued glutony of nature's resources, the least we can do is help minimize the disease and starvation that will...YES, WILL... result if we were to stop hunting. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Dec 25th, 2003, 9:08am Total change of subject-- My wife loves me, she really loves me. For Christmas she got me a signed authentic throwback Philly Eagles player jersey personally signed by my favorite Eagle, Harold Carmichael. He was the man when I was a kid growing up. How the hell she even knew I liked Carmichael is really beyond me!! But, apparently she asked me a few years ago and remembered. Hope everyone else has a great holiday!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Dec 25th, 2003, 10:29pm on 12/25/03 at 09:08:18, DirkDiggler wrote:
#17 was the best. I remember meeting him a few times as a kid. He was like 6'8" or something ... you can imagine how tall he looked to me when I was 8 years old. Harold still works for the Eagles and you can frequently see him on the sidelines of the games (he's still hard to miss). |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Dec 25th, 2003, 11:03pm on 12/25/03 at 22:29:28, Philly wrote:
Yes, he is still affiliated with the Eagles. He also has a business where he arranges player appearances. My wife has gotten to know his business partner quite well in the process of getting my gift. It apparently took a few months to get the jersey. She tried to get a 1980 Jersey but they are not made. I am very impressed with my wife! It is funny when I tell people what I got. Half of them have never even heard of him. He was the man when I was a kid!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Dec 30th, 2003, 1:04pm Just a heads-up to you guys and a thumbs-up to Hooters [smiley=hooters.gif] Air. That's what wifey-poo and I flew on down to the Bahamas (for that second honeymoon) last week. The service was excellent and it was very professional. Yes, there were one or two Hooters [smiley=titflash.gif] [smiley=hooters.gif] girls on each of the flights (four in all as you have to go through their "hub" Myrtle Beach), but whatever... That was not what impressed me. They were very on schedule, no mechanical delays, and provided very clean cabins (unlike, e.g., MarkAir, a budget airline which I had flown back in the day). There was actually only a total of four passengers on the flight back from Nassau to Myrtle Beach on Christmas day and it impressed me/made a HUGE, positive impression on me that they honored their commitment and did not cancel the flight. That's taking the high road, especially on Christmas when loved ones are trying to get to one another, and considering the long-term over the short-term, which seems to happen less and less in our capitalist society. If you are golfing or just need to get around the east spanning from Newark/Columbus to the Bahamas, I would highly recommend Hooters [smiley=titflash.gif] Air: http://www.hootersair.com! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by steelkings on Jan 4th, 2004, 11:45am Howdy all, This holiday I recieved a palm pilot pda. Ive been wanting such a device however I was considering a pocket PC instead. Does anyone have experiance with these items. I would consider taking the palm back and putting the cash towards a pocket. Maybe I could even get one at the Grid shop. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 4th, 2004, 2:34pm Nice seeing 'round, sk. Don't know squat about those items, but as to your suggestion... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Hell, I would advise all of you to return all of your holiday gifts and re-buy them via "the Gridiron Store (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/store.htm)". It is a great way to fund the site, if it's done en masse. It did not turn out to be an "It's a Wonderful Life" scenario this year like I had hoped. Oh well! [smiley=shrug.gif] Including two substantial orders by MOM, ::) I just broke the minimums at Amazon and Overstock for them to cut checks for me at the end of the cycle (minimums = $10). :-[ :-/ |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Jan 5th, 2004, 1:49pm on 01/04/04 at 11:45:38, steelkings wrote:
Is there really a difference between a Palm Pilot and a Pocket PC other than running on different operating platforms (Palm OS vs. Microsoft)? I currently use a Handspring Visor (an older one a friend gave me when he upgraded to a newer PDA). I think it runs Palm OS, but it still has no problems linking to my computer to download my calendar from MS Outlook. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 5th, 2004, 3:24pm Since many of you have gone through this saga (U. of H. - see the old "the Bleachers" thread) with me and perhaps care about me as a person and my "situation" and may still be interested in where things are and, who knows, may even be interested in the topic I wrote about, I am going to throw this out there, but a simple "good luck" will suffice. Anyway, as you may recall, I had to come up with a new sample of "academic writing". I finished that earlier today. It may never end up getting read in its entirety as one of the other schools I am now applying to indicates a 15-page maximum and I have sent it to my mentor at DU to be cut down. Double-spaced, in standard 12-point Times New Roman font with standard 1.25" left and right margins, it's 21+ pages. I adjusted it to 10-point Arial font with 1" margins all around, bringing it down to 15 and a half pages. Anyway, it is likely to get chopped down by at least a page or two if not more by my prof at DU. HOWEVER, as is, honestly, I think it is a downright smooth and enjoyable read (especially vis-a-vis the old one from my undergrad that ruffled a few feathers and even made me cringe with respect to my vocabulary skills at the time) and, in any event, most importantly, it is surely absolutely INNOCUOUS. Anyway, if you happen to be a thinking man or budding or backyard philosopher interested in the philosophical issue of Nature and/or human nature, the paper may be of interest to you. Its tentative title is "Varying Treatments of Nature in Philosophy". If anyone were actually to read it and give me some (intelligent) feedback over the next seven or so days, it could influence the paper (within context, of course). That's not what the point is, though (for reasons that should be fairly obvious). I'm really just wanting to share this as a piece of myself with you guys, who have been "with me" (I guess,... at least around here) from the get-go. If you might be interested in taking a look-see, let me know and I will put it on the net and post a link or send you the paper by e-mail. [smiley=shrug.gif] Anyway, [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] ... |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Jan 5th, 2004, 4:56pm I'd definitely be interested in a perusal. I've never read much in the Philosophy department, so I might not be able to comment on it too, well, philosophically. But from the literary, Emersonian, angle you mentioned to me, I might be able to lend some insight (provided RW remains in the paper after all is said and done). Anyway, feel free to email it to me as I should have a little time this week to check it out. And, by the way... good luck! ;D |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Jan 5th, 2004, 5:04pm on 01/05/04 at 16:56:11, Philly wrote:
I wish you luck!! I would be interested in trying to read it too. I sometimes have a hard time reading philosphy and actually understanding it. I was a history major in college and enjoy that kind of read. Philosophical reading often gets me kind of confused with all the commas and semi-colons and words that I don't understand. (I am just being honest.) However, I always enjoy trying to see if I can understand. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 7th, 2004, 12:00am Holy Hell... I spoke to Double D, Steve, earlier tonight. I haven't been able to fill the order here until now with all the unexpected landmines that came up as I went to start filling out the applications, the on-line ones especially. Word to the wise, even though there may be a version of an application you can submit on-line, there still may be other shit you didn't necessarily think about that needs to be done "longhand", so to speak, like via snail-mail, that you wouldn't necessarily expect, but that still needs to be completed by the deadline. [smiley=scared.gif] Anyway, it's all good to go now, but it did fuckin' lay waste to the last 36 or so hours of my life, both in terms of stress and time. Anyway, check your PM's, DD and Phil. Links for the paper are there. Enjoy, I guess... hope. :-[ ... On to more serious issues,... man, have the networks fucked me up on Tuesday nights! >:( We ain't got Tivo or digital cable or IO or whatever the fuck; we're living prehistory; we only got two TV's and VCR's here, but the lineup at 10:00 on Tuesday night is just PHAT: NBC, Law & Order SVU, ABC, Line of Fire, and, yes, I am "in touch" with my feminine side and do really like the CBS show Judging Amy. What to do? Well, you guys would be proud. Yes, I still do have a [smiley=dick.jpg] , Amy got cut. Sorry, honey! :-[ I'll catchya on re-runs. I taped Mr. Malloy and crew. Now, regarding our sex crimes show, let me just say for the record that that show tonight is NOT at all indicative of average fraternity life. At first, as an ATO, I was hyped up when I saw they used "Tau Omega" as their fictitious fraternity (I was sure the producer or whatever must have been an ATO). It soon became apparent why they had to use a fake fraternity. That shit was brutal (not the tapin' chicks gettin' nailed, though; that was hot) and unlike ANYTHING I went through as a pledge. I do have to admit, though, though I did not tape it, as a junior I did nail, and go on to nail for many weeks, one of our little freshman pledge's freshman girlfriends. She was a TOTAL skank (I hope neither of my two ATO bros who are in the GBRFL happen to see this as they will surely attest to that... I actually fucked this chick with one of them in the room (IbdFunk - Feder)... crazy story... we should've just DP'ed 'er, but we were too childish at the time [smiley=no.gif] ), but this kid, though he accepted it like a man, was freakin' out about it. He ended up gettin' blackballed, i.e. gettin' the boot, in any event. Anyway, don't go by that fuckin' episode (which, nevertheless, was totally entertaining) with regards to fraternity life. It's about push-ups, keg races, chores, cleaning, gettin' yelled at, not entering the house through doors, scavenger hunts, purple nurples (titty twisters), takin' just enough shit to make some cool, unique memories and encourage male bonding, [smiley=ragin.gif] not bondage... [smiley=bawling.gif][smiley=mywhippinboy.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Jan 7th, 2004, 9:20am on 01/07/04 at 00:00:38, StegRock wrote:
He got blackballed because he "freaked out" about you nailing his girlfriend? And the part you seem most upset about is that you and your friend didn't gangbang her when you had the chance. You sound very proud of this whole event. Why would you even post something like this? Are you trying to lose the respect of everyone on this board? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 7th, 2004, 1:55pm on 01/07/04 at 09:20:21, Philly wrote:
Actually, the kid's being blackballed had absolutely NOTHING to do with my bangin' his "girl toy" although, granted, the way I told the story, I guess it sounded that way. He was just a tweak. And, yes, I am disappointed that we did not go for the double-team with this chick (read, NOT gang-rape her; bring it up and see where it goes, which I think would have been down... and up on both of us ;) ). It was an opportunity (lost) for a unique life experience that my buddy and I could have looked back on and got at least a chuckle out of for the rest of our days. As it is, the real story behind it is classic enough, for those who can appreciate it. If you can't, :-X ! What, you want to quash reality,... no less suppress opinion(s) (something I, ironically, am always accused of around here)!? Funny thing, though, is opinion(s) can be changed; reality can't. I'm just being honest and not hiding in a closet/behind a computer screen. You want me to stop being honest or do you want to know me, the real person!? "Lose the respect of everyone on this board," you say. [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] A little projecting there!? By "everyone", you mean "you", you do know? I, for a FACT, know that I would not lose the respect of "everyone" here. Also, as you state, it's an on-line message board, one that I make exist no less. Most people on these things don't know a damn thing about each other and actually don't even "care" to, so substantive, "moral" judgments made here are suspect at best. Anyway, if I would lose respect from someone for something like this [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] , moreover, small detail, I was 20 at the time [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] , that is someone whose respect I really, substantively don't care about. Get a scrotum, man! I also don't like to feel like I have to play goosey around someone, worrying about his/"her" sensibilities, and mince words. Enough of that bullshit goes on at church, in meetings, with family, etc., etc., and, of course, rightfully so,... but behind closed doors, even office doors, it's a different story. This is "the Bleachers" sticky thread... Bottom line, I bring it to the table; you either take off the pontiff's hat and sit at it with me and we share "war stories" or you get up and move to another more suitable table. [smiley=shrug.gif] Absolute truth be said, this story is JUST the tip of the iceberg, man. So, be prepared to brace yourself in the years to come if this one shocked/offended you! [smiley=shrug.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by PrimeTime on Jan 7th, 2004, 3:54pm Steg, First off -- Good Luck. I will be happy to read your "paper". I will give you my opinion, however, it may not be worth that much to you since I am not that "up on" philosophy. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 7th, 2004, 4:06pm Check your IM's, Gene! I hope you enjoy it! [smiley=bow.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Jan 7th, 2004, 4:07pm First off, I'm not trying to approach this from any sort of "moral high ground." I admit I may seem a bit prudential to many people here because I'm careful not to use obscene language or direct sexual references. Whatever... I don't try to impose my values on anyone. Does it bother me that you would take advantage of a position of authority (perceived or real) to take advantage of a person sexually? Yes, to be honest, it does. But that is water under the bridge. Like you said, you were "20 at the time." I could have probably let it go at that. By no means would I fare well with moralists if my social vitae from college became known. And had you told me this story 15 years ago, I' sure I would have reacted much differently to it. What ultimately provoked me is the fact that there seems to be no remorse from you whatsoever. I did things in college that were out and out stupid and mean and people got hurt because of it. I certainly am not proud of that, and I could probably write it off as typical college behavior. But the point is, now I feel genuinely bad about those things I did. But when you take the role of braggadocio, and only appear to rue the fact that you were not able to take even more advantage of this guy's girlfriend (just for a chuckle later in life), it makes me wonder about your current state of mind. Let's face it, you can't write it off to youthful ignorance now. Quote:
I wasn't trying to keep you from telling your story or expressing an opinion. I certainly didn't hesitate to give mine. I was merely trying to understand why you would feel the need to tell this (sordid) story. Furthermore, I was trying to let you know that I found the whole incident, and today's recount of it, disturbing. Quote:
Maybe I'm alone on this one, as no one else has stepped to the plate to proffer an opinion. But, yes, I did mean "me" when I said "everyone". I did lose some respect for you when I read the story for the first time. And that respect was not gained back with your response to my criticism. It is certainly a shame since I held you in much higher esteem having had the opportunity to spend some time getting to know you in person this past weekend. Quote:
You don't know how much that scares me. Ultimately, I came to this site originally for conversation about football and fantasy football with intelligent people. If that means I need to brace myself to hear even more disturbing stories, then maybe I do need to find a more suitable table. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 7th, 2004, 5:31pm on 01/07/04 at 16:07:41, Philly wrote:
"Take advantage of a position of authority"... [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] I hooked up with a ho who was hangin' around the house... ::) Were these two gettin' married, or even serious for that matter? Hell fuckin' no! He got over it and probably learned something in the process. Quote:
I don't know what to say. We evidently live in different worlds and have different lifestyles. ... I'll be traveling A TON come next weekend (as many of you know). I have a married friend who lives in one of the places I will be visiting and with whom... and his wife "interesting activities" could go on. That would be our choice! (This is more of a hypothetical for the purposes hereof, but one that does have a "real" basis! Point being, I don't want to start a discussion on marriage issues, which are way too deep and complex for this kind of venue of communication, or give you more fodder about my life to put under your microscope.) Anyway, NO, ALL CIRCUMSTANCES CONSIDERED (which I know and you cannot), I "feel" no "remorse" about this and, yes, I think it has been more of a good memory for my buddy and me than it has been a "traumatic experience" for the guy or the chick; hell, she loved takin' the Steggie night in and night out that whole semester. [smiley=whistle.gif] Brass tax, she was a ho, alright? And, he was spaz, with whom I was not particularly close! Point being, I wouldn't (wouldn't have had) knowingly fuck(ed) a real friend's girl. In any event, your rhetoric aside, you are, IN FACT, putting me on trial here... no less regarding a situation you really have little clue about, except the 12-year-removed, SHORT version you are getting here. You don't know the guy; you don't know the chick; you don't know the circumstances; you don't even know me that well (as indicated by this whole thing). You are doing like all moralists do, which is apply your "general" set of standards to specific situations you know nothing about. If you think I fucked her because she was "dating" one of our pledges, you are WRONG. I fucked her because she was ready and willing... and there and she just happened to be the piece of one of our (lowlier) pledges. Look, if you are accusing me of having pre-marital sex, I plead guilty; if you are against one-night stands, I plead guilty; if you are against group sex, I plead guilty; if you are accusing me of objectifying women, I plead guilty (and actually would feel bad about it if I ever thought that I did so too often and/or in a serious circumstance); if you don't like the occasional use of obscene language or sexual references, you're gonna hang me in your mind. But, if you are trying me for something else, something more specific, something that pretentiously assumes knowledge you do not/can not have, I am surely innocent. Quote:
You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time. [smiley=shrug.gif] I like you, Jeff, but if you think your telling me that I lost some respect in your mind/world means anything to me and is going to have any efficacy, you're kiddin' yourself. Trust me, there are probably a few more rungs I'll drop before it's all said and done. The point in life is, though, to not hang that over the head of the person. I "see" things, too, and have "thoughts", but they are mine, my interpretations, based on my limited knowledge of this or that, and ultimately VERY subjective so I keep them to myself. I don't hang people IN PUBLIC with my "subjective judgments" about their "personal" lives. I am not God... though I may be as dashing. [smiley=awwgee.gif] ... ;) Quote:
You are not forced to click on or read anything, especially on this thread, which contains non-football-related content, which is what you say you did NOT come here for. As for finding a new "table", that's ultimately for you to decide. But, especially in CYBER SPACE, you ain't gonna find any place as "REAL" as here nor any person as "REAL" as me, including in REAL LIFE for that matter. There ain't no one who lays it on the line the way I do and did just above in this post. How 'bout laying out your skeletons? BOTTOM, BOTTOM line, this is shit my (good) friends and I can and do jest about, so I am just being me with you all, showing you a different, perhaps more real, even laid-back (ironically), side of me. We're just bein' "guys" and it's done light-heartedly, anyway. They're just "war stories". ... That's what I am guilty of the most here... being me, an interesting revelation for those of you prone to a more abstract and deep perception of life and reality. It's just one "part" of my character, a part you evidently don't like. You either got to live with it along with all the other parts, many of which you evidently like, or... [smiley=shrug.gif] ... You know what I wrote to you in the chatroom about my valuing your frankness and caring. I meant that, but there is a limit. [smiley=hippy.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 7th, 2004, 7:23pm In your words, what exactly is it that you want me to feel remorse for, anyway? [smiley=shrug.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Jan 7th, 2004, 8:12pm Well...not sure where to respond on this one. I guess I am most concerned that KJ 76 had to read this. This poor young man whose morals were tested when he hit a car and decided to tell his parents is now subjected to read about sex. ;D So KJ, please cover your eyes and do not expose yourself to this nastiness. [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 7th, 2004, 8:35pm Well, more precisely, DD, his morals were illustrated when he hit a car and decided to take off. Then, he was tested when trying to do the right thing after the fact and tell his parents. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Jan 7th, 2004, 8:42pm on 01/07/04 at 20:12:10, DirkDiggler wrote:
I actually never did tell my parents, I think it was you yourself DD who advised me otherwise not to do it. We agreed on most things, so I took your advice on it, and never got caught for it. (Thank God I no longer have to drive that piece of crap Jeep anyways.) ;D I've been exposed to to much already, DD, I don't find this nasty, instead focking hilarious. ;D Especially having my post so hastily deleted. Big Stegster can't take a little joke. Atleast DD got to see it. Laughs. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Jan 7th, 2004, 8:53pm on 01/07/04 at 20:35:56, StegRock wrote:
Ah...touche. Very true. Morals can certainly suck sometimes because they kick in after the fact. Sometimes it is ten minutes after the situation or sometimes it is days after the situation. OR...maybe I am confusing morals with guilt? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Jan 7th, 2004, 8:56pm on 01/07/04 at 20:42:19, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:
I thought you told your parents and they were relatively cool with it??? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Jan 7th, 2004, 9:29pm on 01/07/04 at 20:56:33, DirkDiggler wrote:
Yeah, I told everyone that on here because the consensus on the whole thing was for me to tell my parents, that and the fact that BW is or has some type of connections with the po po(and nowadays you can track anyone down throught the internet, unlikely though for my situation but that's beside the point), made me just say what everyone wanted to hear. Yeah I know, I'm sounding like an idiot, but honestly that's the truth. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 7th, 2004, 9:43pm on 01/07/04 at 20:42:19, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:
So, Steve, did you get a lot of laughs from KJ's post? Was it really that cool? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Jan 7th, 2004, 10:15pm on 01/07/04 at 21:43:58, StegRock wrote:
Cool? Impossible man, your the coolest thing around here!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 7th, 2004, 10:33pm For the record, KJ 76's post here was deleted because, joke or not (we now know based on these last couple posts above that KJ's story may change based on what suits the moment... he says joke "now"... it didn't sound like a joke "then", at least not to me... to me it was hurtful and not (just) because of the spewage it contained): 1) It was needlessly mean-spirited and without any rationale. He didn't really agree with Jeff, but he was going to take the opportunity to vent at me/make me the butt of his "joke". His kind of post does not contribute anything to the discussion; it infuses the board with genuinely bad energy; it may actually even incite some other immature shmuck to make another retarded post, and ultimately it detracts from the progress of understanding being made. Yes, the discussion above is a bit heated, but, like men, Jeff and I are "responding" to each other's posts and making positive (no, not as in what "ya like, or want to hear", as in coming to real understandings, "like 'em or lump 'em") progress, albeit the hard way, which actually is really the only way to make "real" progress. We are not making posts ignorant of the other's; we are intently reading what the other is writing and "moving forward". It will come to a head where we will both have learned more about one another and can move on accordingly. Anyway, KJ's kind of post is what ruins (the spirit of) other places and is exactly what I don't want here, that mindless, mean, childish bullshit. 2) He called me a liar. I can handle being called an asshole, ugly (which is just childish and foolish on a number of counts), a homo, whatever, but not a liar, especially here. It fundamentally undercuts ALL I am trying to achieve here. I am ALL about our trying to be "REAL" with each other and get out from behind the computer screen as best as possible. That requires trust, and planting the seed that I, the creator of the site, am a liar totally undermines ALL I am trying to achieve with this place, and if that goes out the window, I surely pack it in. I can't wait to see what kind of inane bullshit KJ posts now. :rolleyes: |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by bakes781 on Jan 8th, 2004, 10:09am Here's my view on this whole frat story. Philly you said "I held you(Steg) in much higher esteem having had the opportunity to spend some time getting to know you in person this past weekend." Now maybe it's b/c I'm new here & haven't spent time with any of you personally, but I don't look up to or admire anyone on here. I respect ALL of your view points & take them for what they are worth. As far as I know Steg hasn't told us anything that would be considered illegal though I'm sure there's a tale to be told perhaps in a more private setting. Therefor I don't see anything wrong with him sharing his "war stories." I haven't lowered my view of you Steg b/c I never had it all that high up there to begin with. Does that make any sense? lol Maybe I should get into that philosophy class. Then again maybe not. [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Jan 8th, 2004, 10:18am I didn't find the frat story as disturbing as Jeff, but I did find it inappropriate for a football website that does not have it's own "geek board". I do not think the Bleachers is the nessassary avenue, but I do not run the site, so it's Steve's perogative. Would I like to hear more of Steve's stories? Maybe, but not here. Maybe over a beer or two somewhere, but not here. Do I hold Steve is any lesser light? No. Most of the time, I get lost halfway through his long winded posts and stop reading them and blow the whole thing off, since his posts are so fricking hard to follow. ;) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Jan 8th, 2004, 1:44pm This will be my last response to this as it seems to be causing more animosity than understanding. Quote:
Maybe the part of all of this that upsets me the most (now that we've hashed this through a bit and more details were made known) is the feeling that I was set up and hung out to dry here. Was this another of your little "tests" Steg? Apparently I didn't pass this one. You tell half of a story and expect people to fill in the blanks on their own? If there is one thing I've learned about you, Steg, in my time here, is that you don't make posts haphazardly. The words you post here are chosen VERY carefully. Am I going to have to analyze every one of your posts to try to find the "subtle techniques" you're using in your grand experiment? Why does your explanation from the chatroom make it sound like we're all just your subjects, lab rats if you will? Lets move on to the issue of getting to know each other well enough so that we can try to avoid these types of situations altogether. It seemed that as soon as it was evident that I was uncomfortable with your first post, you threw that right in my face by announcing that was merely the tip of the iceberg and there were plenty more stories from where that came from, and then told me about your upcoming weekend plans. Just a little background that most of you don't know about me. I'm a certified trainer for "Character Counts!" through the Josephson Institute for Ethics. I've spent the past six years of my life working extensively (now as a volunteer) with character education. Through collaboration with the local judicial system, I developed a program to help teach decision-making skills (through character education) to first-time juvenile offenders in the court system. (Regardless of anyone's feelings about character education, it works. Since its inception in 1999, the teens who have gone through the program have had a ZERO rate of recidivism.) So maybe my sensitivities and realities are a bit different than others here. I'm not trying to say that my character is flawless either. But it is something that I think about in the decisions I make every day. Quote:
Because, after all, I am the one known for rhetoric here... Quote:
Of course I am. Don't act so surprised. You've already been tried and convicted in my mind. It's what's called making a subjective judgment about a situation (using the evidence provided). Did you honestly expect that you could post something like that without anyone forming an opinion (positive or negative) about it? C'mon Steg, you're not that naive, are you? Quote:
See, there's an immediate difference between the two of us. Earning, and subsequently keeping the respect of people I consider friends does mean something to me. I've made an effort to establish relationships with a number of people on this site and, while I cannot begin to imagine that I know everything (much of anything?) about them, their friendship and respect is important to me. Ultimately, I came to this website in order to further my understanding and appreciation of fantasy football. I'll go out on a limb and presume that is the primary reason everyone is here. But in the process, I've developed friendships. I don't just consider these "cyber" relationships because on the other end is a REAL person. Quote:
So that is what life is all about, eh? Thanks for clearing it up for me. Quote:
What good would that do? You want to just compare "war stories" to see whose are worse? Anyway, (to quell the fears of those who have asked me if I'm leaving)... I'm sticking around, although I probably won't be frequenting the Bleachers any more. How about that LeBron James, is he amazing or what? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 8th, 2004, 1:46pm Jim/BW (this is a long one that is probably worth struggling through), I grok what you are getting at generally and can appreciate it though I am not in agreement. However, specifically regarding your point about the "inappropriateness of the story for this venue, but that it would be okay if we had a 'geek board' here", I do not follow. Here is "the Bleachers" thread description from the initial post of the thread: on 11/06/03 at 06:55:52, StegRock wrote:
I.e., ANYTHING goes; I even mention "sex" and "chicks" as two of the things. [smiley=uh.gif] [smiley=shrug.gif] Anyway, the one thing I have somewhat learned from this experience, made more poignant by the fact that this was initially stirred up by someone with whom I have spoken quite a bit and even met and then somewhat concurred with by the other guy who I've spent a few dimes on calling, is that I should not totally be myself here. [smiley=nono.gif] This is quite an ironic epiphany, actually, since the thing I mainly detest at other sites, which most of you know/knew coming in, is that sterile, transparently fake environment (at least to me) where everybody stays at arm's length, has the (dysfunctional) desire to remain faceless and nameless and not show others who they really are and, thus, can so easily treat others meanly on the turn of a dime. It's dehumanizing to me. Actually, as I have stated again and again, what I am trying to do here is all about being "REAL" and making "SUBSTANTIVE" strides in getting to know one another. Hell, I don't want to be running leagues that take significant time out of my life for a bunch of (ungrateful) strangers (who somehow have misconstrued that it is their right to be here and that somehow I am their personal fantasy football slave). I digress... Yea, I get the occasional thank you for something specific I've done, but I rarely if ever get the feeling that you guys think/remember to think, "Who (else) does this shit? Over and above ALL the basics, I mean in his good efforts here, Steg has even made overseas phone calls (to me personally), probably at about $20 a pop. I mean... Who else does this shit? Who else cares this much?", and then show me the according... "leeway" back. I guess what I am saying here is I am not really doing this for the money. THAT SHOULD BE OBVIOUS (although there are times over the last year where I've been made to feel like I'm being a shicer)! ::) I've even told some of you guys about my "5-year Plan". Anyway, rather than timed thank yous or even money at this point I would rather just be shown the according respect, appreciation and at least leeway for ALL that I do do for you guys, who, really, I barely know, BUT WANT TO COME TO KNOW, and all of this can be simply shown by way of respectful, appreciative silence and tolerance (of how I deem to run my house and, moreover, who I am). It seems like I at least earned that, no? (At a time) I was working under the impression that I'll do ALL this for you guys for free if you all just work with me and don't give me a hard time when the going gets tough even if I am the one who made it that way (while I work on my "5-year Plan", figuring out ways to generate revenue WITHOUT making this a pay site or deluged with annoying, unwanted blinking and pop-up ads), ultimately there is always a method to the "mad"ness here. ;) Fair enough, right? A couple punk-asses later... and because of ALL the shit that I went through in '03 with people's intolerance OF ME and putting me under the microscope IN MY OWN HOUSE, in which ALL I ULTIMATELY do is give of my time and money, I actually started feeling the need to push the envelope with the Donations and the Gridiron Store (neither of which worked out really well anyway, as it really is still too soon to be going in that direction, which I knew and had stated before, but I felt the compulsion to try to get some bucks, i.e. try to cover some costs, because it just wasn't seeming/feeling "worth it"). At any rate, what I am learning is that maybe getting to really know people and caring is just not the way of the internet, which is largely about escapism. I mean the "Mugsy" story from the other thread was okay because it was sentimental and didn't affect anybody's sensibilities. That's just one REAL side of me, though. Now, you've seen another REAL side of me. So, now you have a more complete picture of who I REALLY am, the good and the bad, for better or for worse; there's still a lot in between. It's REAL, though! BUT, I guess you guys don't want me to be "me" in here, at least not to the degree that I infringe on your sensibilities, not that this story of mine here is this big of a deal. I've never seen so much hubbub in my life AMONG A BUNCH OF GUYS [smiley=dick.jpg] [smiley=dick.jpg] [smiley=dick.jpg] regarding a story like this. ::) BOTTOM, BOTTOM line I can't win comin' or goin'. If someone else told the story and I scolded him for it, I'd have the cavalry led by KJ 76 and ZAGS on my back and then my right-hand men, thinking they are helping me by playing the middle, telling me to lighten up. Instead, in this case, I let my hair down and lighten up and tell an old "guys" tale (no, not an old "wives" tale ;) ), and I am being crucified or at least questioned because of it... And, I run, pay for and built the damn place. Again, YOU THINK THAT WOULD BUY ME A LITTLE LEEWAY! I don't think there is anybody on the planet who provides a better FREE product than this and, moreover, remains involved as much as I do and takes as much shit as I do. It's almost like you guys get off on it, another thing that goes on at other sites, which I hate, but which, again, is attributable to that dehumanizing environment. Ultimately, and I got to get this through my thick skull, PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET DO NOT REALLY/NECESSARILY WANT TO BE THEMSELVES NOR FORGE "REAL", "SUBSTANTIVE" RELATIONSHIPS (unless they are desparate and on a dating site, and even then...). And, if that is the case, I gotta reevaluate what I'm doing here because, that, I am not into. This place is not just going to become just another message board. There are enough of those out there, no reason for me to saturate the field any more. (Indemnification clause: when bringing up the reality of ALL my efforts here, I am NOT bragging. I am just stating fact relevant to my point. This is being made explicit for those prone to getting their backs up about this kind of stuff.) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Jan 8th, 2004, 2:29pm My point was, with an entire geek board, you can make specific post WITH titles, like: Baseball Question My Frat Sex Story Did you see Arnold's Speech last night? As opposed to it all being grouped under ONE specific Bleacher thread. That was if there is a topic that did not interest someone, the can choose not to read it. I don't judge you by your tale Steve, I have a few myself, some I am proud of, others not so much. I would not share them here, but possibly in a different format. Out of respect for poeple (like Jeff) who did not want to read them. This is also my last post in reference to this issue. I won't be reading or responding to anymore post here on the Bleachers. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 8th, 2004, 2:30pm on 01/08/04 at 13:44:45, Philly wrote:
No, not at all. It's that you jumped to a conclusion. Do you know how many pages I would have had to write to tell that "whole" story? That "fact" too could have been taken into consideration, at least just as much as anything else you "read into" it, and a more "generous" conclusion, which I reasonably thought I had earned a right to, but evidently not with you of all people, could have been drawn instead of jumping to a conclusion. Quote:
Oh, [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] , I came at you just as hard as you came at me. Give me a break! You started this, for goodness sake. What's good for the goose is not good for the gander? Quote:
Who's whose lab rat, man? ::) Quote:
I only addressed that because in your previous post you wrote, "First off, I'm not trying to approach this from any sort of 'moral high ground.' ... Whatever... I don't try to impose my values on anyone." Seems like double-talk to me. Quote:
No, I did not think this would go like this. Sure, I thought some would like it and some would not, like everything in life. But, I did NOT think it deserved a response like yours; I did NOT think I deserved a response like yours. Quote:
I meant as it relates to this. Quote:
How poignant, yet consistent? In closing, you harken back to this. Whenever things go this way, it's like a broken record. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Jan 8th, 2004, 3:13pm on 01/07/04 at 22:33:06, StegRock wrote:
Yeah, it was childish bullshit Bullshit you spew constantly and think otherwise. I took a shot at you, the same way you take shots at me. Yeah, it was harsh, yeah label it "chilidsh", but do I care no? For a man who can't take a little joke by a 18 year old, really is the funny thing. Don't compare me to ZAGS, he and I have totally different problems with you. I'm having a good time here poking fun at you anyways. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 8th, 2004, 3:27pm on 01/08/04 at 15:13:41, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:
Again, it's not that it really bothers me or has any real long-lasting effect on me personally; it's how such posts affect the site and its maturation. That's what I am mainly concerned about. I, personally, can take it, though, given the context, that this is my site, it still stings. Anyway, find me one instance where I have ever spewed out that kind of nonsensical, overtly mean-spirited bullshit. You can't! It's because it's in your head. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by PrimeTime on Jan 8th, 2004, 4:47pm Since I have been reading all these posts (and I "hang out" here on a regular basis), it is only fair that I state my opinion on the "sex tales" saga. It did not bother me when I read Stegs' original post. I also must admit that I enjoy reading that kind of "stuff" now and then. I too was in college and in a fraternity (pi kappa alpha or Pika). That kind of talk/discussion does not bother me at all. On the other hand, I can also see the other point of view and see where some may be offended by it. I guess I didn't really add too much to the discussion, but I thought I would at least make my opinion known. I have not had a problem with anyone on this site. I think it is a great collection of people. I enjoy reading everyone's posts. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Jan 8th, 2004, 5:49pm on 01/07/04 at 21:43:58, StegRock wrote:
Nope. Did not think it was that funny or that cool. To be honest, I really did not totally understand it. It was bashing Steve, but with no real jump in logic. (that I saw.) Instead, I was reminded of KJ's age. So in my warped humor and sarcasm, I rather took the response of thinking of this young upstanding young man having to read about s-e-x. Abstinence is the best policy young man!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on Jan 8th, 2004, 6:50pm Fellas, This is a Fantasy football site, but also a forum where guys seem to wax poetic on a multitude of topics. I unfortuately do not get a chance that much to log on and BS as much as I would like to, but this place is a zone where guys are just being guys. I think Steg, while talking about the TV show and Frat letters, made him reminisce about the Ole College life and one of his conquests. I didn't think he meant any harm by it. D-Soup for all!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Jan 8th, 2004, 6:57pm on 01/08/04 at 18:50:30, The Juror wrote:
NO Soup for YOU!! <--- only soup reference I know. Anyways, I personnally am really looking forward to this weekend. Why? Cause the Eagles are in the playoffs and are going to be in a GREAT game. Now, my fear in life. The Eagles make the Super Bowl and my wife goes into labor!! Our due date for our second child is two days AFTER the Superbowl. The possibility is there. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on Jan 8th, 2004, 7:00pm Any thoughts about Pete Rose?? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by PrimeTime on Jan 8th, 2004, 9:57pm My view on Pete Rose is that he should be eligible for the Hall of Fame. The Hall of Fame is for the fans. It is a place to celebrate the great players and moments in baseball history. Anyone who does not think of Pete Rose as one of the "greats" either never saw him play or simply has an axe to grind. His career is worthy of the Hall. To keep him out for something he did as a manager is wrong. From what I have heard, some of his "stuff" is currently being displayed in the Hall. If that is the case then baseball is being hypocritical in not letting him be eligible for election. I say let him be eligible for election to the Hall. I am not, however, as adament about him being allowed to work in MLB. The rule is you cannot bet on baseball and, bottom line, he did. A ban from being a manager, coach, front office executive, or GM is fair and I have no problem with it. In my mind I make a distinction between the Hall and MLB, the business. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 9th, 2004, 2:50am on 01/08/04 at 18:50:30, The Juror wrote:
[smiley=lickinmychops.gif] ... [smiley=eatme.gif] [smiley=hooters.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 9th, 2004, 9:32am Before we get back to all the funnin' around and this is behind us, let me make something clear... My feelings were VERY hurt by what happened here (and I am not just talking about the post that was deleted, which was just over-the-top). This one's not getting digested easily. I am not going to be the "doormat of my own web site". I may not earn any money here, but I, with my "generous" efforts (for strangers), (should have) at least earned some "generous" tolerance and leeway in return (from those strangers). My indicating "strangers" there is just indicative of how this go-around REALLY wore me down. Lost in the ("academic") shuffle of putting my character on trial here and my being put in a position of having to defend myself are, gasp, my "judgments", more precisely "feelings" (as "judgments" are really just "opinions"), moreover, about those who saw the need to play judge, jury and executioner with me here and quite equivocally so. This one's taken/taking its toll! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Jan 9th, 2004, 3:40pm on 01/09/04 at 09:32:40, StegRock wrote:
Just so that it's known to you and to all. I love what you have done with the website. I love the effort and passion you put into this. Though, nobody is perfect, nor you nor I. I hate the way you make snide comments and try to put people down.(Whether intentionally or unintenionally.) You try to run everything TO STRICTLY. You need to lighten up a bit, and need to STOP worrying about this site turning into FFToday, because obviously the way you are CURRENTLY running it, is not working. I may be the harshest(and maybe most honest) with my comments directed to you, but obviously I'm not the only one who's had something negative to say about how you run things here. My point is, just lighten up a bit. Trust me, things will be running a little bit more smoother around here and will be a better place for ALL of us to converge and discuss as fantasy football fans, not as frickin' dogs bickering back and forth. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 9th, 2004, 4:58pm Reasonable enough, KJ. What I've left in the quote below is where we FUNDAMENTALLY diverge, though. Actually, if you would have stayed in the chatroom that day instead of deciding to leave saying, "na, I'd rather not (hear what you have to say, Steg)", you would know (better) what I am talking about. Instead, you left and here we are. You make a good post that contains some good points, certainly. [smiley=bow.gif] But, you do miss one BIG point (which I explained that day in the chatroom), which you could have adjusted to herein (if you knew) and made your point more pointed and persuasive (not that your point is not "well" taken as it is). on 01/09/04 at 15:40:41, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:
For one, I see an inherent contradiction in what is quoted above. I totally disagree that the site is not "working". The site is working just fine. I don't necessarily want it to be any busier or bigger at this point in time than it is right now. I was actually just hoping to just make it to 250 members after my second season with a core of about 20 to 30. That's basically what we got goin' on. If you (the general "you") want it to be 500 or 1,000 members at this point, that it isn't is your (the general "your") problem, not mine. Follow? If you (the general "you") want that, then go find it because it surely exists somewhere out there. Actually, in any event, we are doing slightly better than what my goal was. Secondly, ultimately, I am doing things in a certain very subtle, although at times very NOT subtle though still not obvious, and calculating way that I will NOT change, THOUGH TIME AND SLOW AND STEADY GROWTH OF THE SITE "NATURALLY" WILL (therein lies the key - patience). At any rate, though, it's my baby; it's my dream that I have for this place, which is only really known/understood by a couple guys with whom I've talked about it; it's my time being consumed, 1,000's of hours; it's my money that has been being spent here by everybody, so to speak (except for a handful of donors), and I can run it however I like. KJ, whoever, if you ultimately can't handle the way I run the site or just don't like it or me, you always have the option to leave. If I were begging you (or anybody) to stay, your point would be more convincing. BUT, I am not! Actually, I am a firm believer in "addition by subtraction", especially when it comes to the formative stages of a "project". I don't believe an inch can be given, especially early-on, because a mile will surely end up being taken. People, paradoxically actually, forget so quickly the DIRECT RELATIONSHIP between the environment here generally, almost always actually, except when I am going about "my business of cracking down" and the peanut gallery opens up, being very friendly, intelligent and cool and the way it is run. And, because it's so cool and people are feeling comfy and forgetting about that relationship, some start thinking that the reigns can be loosened, which is a total illusion. It's just a mental cycle (oh, boy, here goes the philosopher [smiley=zenmaster.gif] ... ::) ). At FFToday, they go through the opposite "mental cycle" so to speak. Anyway, in this cycle here, people also forget ALL the praise and THANKS I, the guy running the place, dole out as well as all the self-deprecating humor I employ. That is also part of my strategy. ... Anyway, I don't really want money now. All I REALLY want during these early years/stages is for dudes who "generally" like what's goin' on here to just LET ME BE ME AND LET ME DO MY THING as I see fit (if for no other reason than out of respect for the fact that this is a TOTAL FREEBIE and I even things out with A LOT of thanks and praise and self-deprecating humor) and then, ULTIMATELY, as I state above, the reigns will loosen NATURALLY and IN DUE TIME. Those "in the know" get that. Actually, it only takes some due diligence to figure out, though, or humility to go along with. And, I am not as sarcastic as you might perceive, KJ; I'm actually just a straightforward, straight-up [smiley=dick.jpg] ! [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] In any event, I wasn't even the [smiley=dick.jpg] who started this mess, for Christ's sake. ::) It was sumo [smiley=sumo.gif] boy! ;) ... "'the Gridiron' Staff Team" - [smiley=flipoffangrily.gif] [smiley=dick.jpg] [smiley=sumo.gif] ... Guess who's who? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by PrimeTime on Jan 10th, 2004, 2:17pm Here's my guess: [smiley=flipoffangrily.gif] = Jim [smiley=dick.jpg] = Steve [smiley=sumo.gif] = Jeff |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by steelkings on Jan 11th, 2004, 11:18am Because of my rough beginnings at this site. I for one am glad I did not get involved with the whole TV , Gangbang frat thing. Tho Im only slightly turned on by the story ,I couldnt help thinking what could have happend if the frat boys would have mixed in a bottle of viagra. I dug the story Steve. As I told you before. Enjoy your own site. any as prince said ...Party like its 1999....or what ever year that was. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 12th, 2004, 2:58pm APPLICATIONS AND EVERYTHING ALL DONE!!!!! :P [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=havinablast.gif] ... [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by PrimeTime on Jan 12th, 2004, 5:21pm SWEET! Now on to more important things.... |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 16th, 2004, 4:35pm Well, amidst ALL the other preparations for the journey, I did fit in just one more ap. [smiley=whistle.gif] ... Any and all good will in my direction will be MUCH appreciated! [smiley=nervous.gif] [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] Anyway, I am PUMPED! [smiley=pumped.gif] T-minus 23 and a half hours until departure (from home)! [smiley=ontheclock.gif] ... [smiley=wave.gif] I am sure you guys will here from me at some point(s) from each of the destinations! 8-) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on Jan 16th, 2004, 4:44pm Have a safe trip Steve and please rememeber the Penicillin. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 17th, 2004, 2:49pm on 01/16/04 at 16:44:04, The Juror wrote:
Alrighty, boyz, Steggie here is out and about until at least February 28th! Keith, thanks for the well wishes and, yes, I will take all measures necessary so as to avoid the kudies (sp. ? [smiley=shrug.gif] )... well, maybe not ALL measures. [smiley=whistle.gif] ... ;) Watch over my baby well, fellas! [smiley=bow.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 19th, 2004, 11:49pm Just checkin' in! UM tomorrow morn! [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] Keep the good vibrators... um, I mean, vibrations cummin'... um, I mean, comin'! ;) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 24th, 2004, 5:51pm TAMU [smiley=cowboy.gif] out of the way... Two down, one to go (on this initial run at least). Keep them [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] ! Over and out! [smiley=wave.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Jan 26th, 2004, 10:19pm Anyone into basketball? Possibly fantasy? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jan 27th, 2004, 1:24am On the island, fellas, the key place to this whole equation! [smiley=woohoo.gif] ... [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] Let's pump up those prayers and good vibrations,... PLEASE! [smiley=bow.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by steelkings on Feb 15th, 2004, 9:52pm The Pittsburgh Pirates signed Raul Mondesi and Orlando Merced. Combined average age of 97. Fortunatly they also signed Randall Simon just in case the geasers get out of line. BORING! THE OFF SEASON IS BORING |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Feb 29th, 2004, 5:31pm The boredom is over, my friends... STEGGIE'S BAAHAAACK!!!!! [smiley=woohoo.gif] ... ;) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 29th, 2004, 7:51pm Anybody up for a March Madness pool? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 1st, 2004, 1:07pm WOO-HOO! First mail day back and the good news starts a rollin' in... Ole' perseverin' Steggie's battin' 1-for-1 as it stands now! And, I ultimately at least needed one to let me in. Hint: [smiley=priest.gif] U. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 1st, 2004, 1:57pm on 03/01/04 at 13:07:52, StegRock wrote:
Congrats. Is this school located in the District of Columbia? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 3rd, 2004, 6:01pm Jumpin' from joy! Still battin' a thousand... 2-for-2! This time: U. of... "Holy ______" [smiley=cold.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:08pm Congrats Steg!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 4th, 2004, 2:53pm Thanks for the congrats, DD and TJ! [smiley=awwgee.gif] Waitin' on #3... [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] ... [smiley=nervous.gif] (But, not as nervous/pressured anymore) Keep the good vibes directed this way, fellas! [smiley=zenmaster.gif] I could sure use all I can get and it's workin'! [smiley=dancin.gif] P.S. (Yes, DD, the first one is the one in D.C.) ;D |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on Mar 4th, 2004, 4:29pm Steg-I was wondering your thoughts on Portis? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 4th, 2004, 4:50pm That stuff is being discussed in "the Red Zone (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=55)", TJ. Sheesh! :P ... ;) Let's keep Steggie's grad-school good vibes goin' on in here! ;D |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 4th, 2004, 5:00pm So, are they Marymount and Holy Cross? ?.?.? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 4th, 2004, 5:16pm I answered that in the chatroom, Jim. [smiley=shrug.gif] Thanks for caring enough to ask, though, friend. [smiley=bow.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 4th, 2004, 5:59pm Yes, I saw that, but I thought you were kidding... And you are welcome! on 03/04/04 at 17:16:44, StegRock wrote:
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 4th, 2004, 6:02pm on 03/04/04 at 17:59:31, BarnabyWilde wrote:
I just have to ask, Jim... Why would you think I was kidding (about that)? ?.?.? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 4th, 2004, 6:10pm Because I have never heard of Catholic U, and when you said Holy ______ I figured it was Holy Cross. When you said [smiley=priest.gif] school in the DC area, I figured it was Marymount (where my wife graduated from) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 4th, 2004, 6:16pm Never heard of The Catholic University of America. Wow. To put those of you who are following this and curious out of your respective miseries, the other school is the University of Toledo. Holy Toledo! In any event, let's keep sending those good grad-school vibrations Steggie's way, folks! [smiley=zenmaster.gif] ... [smiley=hippy.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on Mar 4th, 2004, 6:20pm Steg, I think Liz Cho went to Toledo. [smiley=gettinridden.gif] [smiley=gettinridden.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 4th, 2004, 6:23pm Holy Toledo! Are you for real? Don't tease me like that! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on Mar 4th, 2004, 6:28pm Just yankin' it Steg. She is actually a graduate of Boston U. [smiley=dog.gif] Go Terriers!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 4th, 2004, 9:26pm on 03/04/04 at 18:10:21, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Barnaby-- I am taking my niece (who I love dearly) to look at Marymount in April. (I live close by.) Did your wife like it there? Is there a alumni support group? Has it served her well? She is interested in Marymount and Mary Washington along with a ton of other schools. She would like to go to school in the DC area. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 4th, 2004, 9:27pm on 03/04/04 at 18:10:21, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Yea, I thought it was Holy Cross too. (I really have no idea where this school is located.) However, being in the DC area, I am very familar with Catholic. THey actually have won the D-3 basketball championship a few times. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by PrimeTime on Mar 4th, 2004, 10:30pm Steve, Congratulations dude! [smiley=woohoo.gif] Lets strike up the band and have a party [smiley=guitar.gif] [smiley=guitar.gif] [smiley=drummer.gif] [smiley=rguitar.gif] [smiley=rguitar.gif] [smiley=cheers.gif] [smiley=ragin.gif] [smiley=rasta.gif] [smiley=hooters.gif] [smiley=smitten.gif] [smiley=hooters.gif] [smiley=alcoholic.gif] [smiley=alcoholic.gif] [smiley=alcoholic.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by PrimeTime on Mar 4th, 2004, 10:31pm By the way, I didn't know there were schools outside the Big Ten? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DOLFAN on Mar 6th, 2004, 11:35am Congrats Stegey! I knew you would get into many of the schools that you applied to. Let's hope you get the 1 you really want. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 6th, 2004, 12:21pm on 03/06/04 at 11:35:33, DOLFAN wrote:
Thanks for the well wishes, Gene, Joe. [smiley=bow.gif] Joe, you now know from our conversation late last night/this morning that that school is no longer the (long "e") school anymore. It's a real crapshoot at this point! I could see myself choosing any one of the schools I applied to. It's going to boil down to "the specifics of the offer/situation" after being respectively (and respectfully ;) ) accepted, so to speak. Anyway,... [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by steelkings on Mar 8th, 2004, 7:11am Quote:
"Joe peshi voice" OK,OK,OK......Why was Micheal Jackson in Walmart? He herd that little boys underwear was 1/2 off. Get it . huh.Ok, ok,ok.....I got more! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DOLFAN on Mar 9th, 2004, 7:24am Steelking, based on your picture, I'm guessing that you were there at the time and got Michael's autograph too i bet huh? [smiley=doh.gif] J/K.. [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 12th, 2004, 12:32am A few things... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NCAA Hoops on 02/29/04 at 19:51:47, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Yes, I might be up for that, especially if someone sets it up over at Yahoo! (I'm going to speak to someone right now who might be interested as I know you have your hands full, Jim)! Also, by the way, I feel bad about St. Joe's losing. All I know (Catholic at heart), I am pulling big-time for St. Joe's and Gonzaga! It will almost definitely affect my picks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hockey and Bertuzzi Ya know, for me, this Bertuzzi incident comes VERY timely. Before this happened, I had definitely been noticing in ESPN's "Ultimate Highlights" that amidst all the slam dunks and buzzer-beaters in basketball, the great golf shots, the awesome rodeo rides, homers in baseball's grapefruit leagues, all the cool header and bender goals in soccer, it seemed like 75% of hockey's "ultimate highlights" were what? FIGHTS! I even remarked about it. I like hockey, but, in (very) short, that's beat if that's all hockey can come up with. [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] Don't get me wrong! I am not one of these fools who is going to complain, "That's what hockey's come to. It's such ashame!" Whatever! It's pretty much been like that forever. It's just that it's time for "out with the old and in with the new!" [smiley=yes.gif] I.e., keep the skating in the rinks and the fighting in the rings! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Tragic Attacks in Spain Last, but surely not at all least, especially in consideration of our member KJ 76, I would like to express my condolences and support to the people of Spain, who have been hit by a terrible terrorist attack. I saw the images and was saddened, approximately 200 dead and over 1,000 wounded. The Spanish have been great supporters of the U.S. in our time of need(ing support), and it seems like it is possible that their supporting us may have been the catalyst of this attack. I hope not. But, whatever the case, I betchya they continue to stand strong alongside us. In any event, I am sorry to those who are suffering because of this tragic event. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Crash on Mar 12th, 2004, 2:02am Just got off the phone with Steg (I'm the guy he was referring to above). I usually set-up a NCAA tourney pool every year, and this year won't be exception. What will be different, though, is that this time I'd like all you footballers to jump in. I'm guessing (hoping) that you guys are so ass-deep in gridiron goings on that you know as little about college basketball as me! I will set it up on Yahoo, and post the info here (and perhaps elsewhere on the site) regarding how to sign up. I'll do that as soon as the conference tourneys are over, and the brackets are set, i.e. Monday. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Mar 12th, 2004, 8:46am on 03/12/04 at 00:32:51, StegRock wrote:
As a Philadelphia sports fan, I've been pulling big time for St. Joe's. Jameer Nelson is one of the class acts in college basketball and Phil Martelli is a very generous person in terms of the time he gives to the fans and the media. The only thing that Martelli can come up with as an excuse (not that he is looking to make any) is the fact that they had more than a week off between their final reg. season game and the one in the A-10 tourney. Now they get another week off before the NCAA tourney begins. Quote:
Interestingly... Philadelphia and Ottawa played a game last Friday night that was marked by an NHL record 419 penalty minutes and non-stop brawls for the last 10 minutes of the game. Comcast SportsNet (Philadelphia) chose to replay the game this past Wednesday night. They never replay games. But the hockey fans really enjoy the "old time hockey" and the fighting. I too enjoy a good fight in a hockey game, but apparently there are enough people who are potential hockey fans who don't understand why there are fights and get turned off by it. Quote:
I hope people realize that the battle against terrorism needs to continue. Some people would cut funding to the homeland security budgets (etc.) given an opportunity, but things like this will continue if no one does anything about them. I heard (second-hand) from someone who spent some time with Tom Ridge. During fairly casual conversation (most of it discussing football), Ridge mentioned that there have been a number of events (many of them which would have been much more destructive than the 9/11 attacks) that have been prevented since 9/11 because of the increased attention to homeland security. And until other countries (not pointing at Spain by any means) begin to realize that they too need to play a part, these tragic events will continue. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 12th, 2004, 12:25pm on 03/12/04 at 08:46:56, Philly wrote:
A-greed! [smiley=yes.gif] on 03/12/04 at 02:02:38, Crash wrote:
EXCELLENT! I'm so glad I thought to invite you over, Crash (Dave), to run this. The background on this... At Hoseo University, a handful of guys enjoyed some golden years in Korea. Typically over there, it is hard to find anybody (among the foreigners, that is... the Koreans are just a whole nother ball of wax) mainstreamish, no less downright normal (with regards to having a reasonably balanced perspective on things and, moreover, enjoying some of the usual things American guys like... a lot of overly free-spirited FLOTSAM over there). There we amazingly had a group of guys who liked to play basketball and sports in general. We even put together a team of foreign instructors (and grad students) at the school (the translation of the team name of which was "the old and the weak" [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] ) and barnstormed the campus courts, where we had LOTS of success, losing only once or twice, I think, during my time there at least, and even were allowed to enter the school's IM tournament, where we did not fair as well, finishing about .500 as I recall, but not even coming close to winning anything. Anyway, back around to the NCAA hoops brackets tournament. That first year, which I guess was 1998, Dave, a.k.a. Crash, here ran our first-ever NCAA brackets tournament. It was a blast! So, since things have quieted down with that over the last couple years since that core group is so divided by geography anymore, I thought asking him to bring his show over here would be awesome. He's also a football fan though it is VERY difficult to follow American football avidly from over there. Maybe we can help him out with that. ;) Also of note, Dave is one of "the good guys" and one of my best buds. One other note, especially for you sticklers around here that want to make sure Steggie remains consistent in how he runs things, as for this not being football-related, I think this is a widely-popular and, more importantly perhaps, "concentrated" enough event for us to do. I actually think this will work as a great way for us to test the waters of this kind of non-football-related, moreover other-sports-related, stuff. And, in any event, it will be the "First Annual Gridiron NCAA Hoops Brackets Tourney", which makes it "Sidelines-safe". ;) Quote:
Dave, guys, I will set up a "First Annual Gridiron NCAA Hoops Brackets Tourney" thread here on "the Sidelines" within a couple days. Until then, keep posts about this here in "the Bleachers" sticky thread. Thank you! [smiley=bow.gif] ... And, finally, most importantly,... WELCOME TO "the Gridiron @ FantasyFootballer.com", CRASH! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 12th, 2004, 1:03pm Well Steggie's grad-school batting average just fell by 500 points AND one big question mark has now been eliminated... I am now batting .500. I don't know what it is with these "eastern philosophy" schools. That is one of my particular passions and they are just not going to let me in. [smiley=no.gif] Oh well! [smiley=whatever.gif] The bottom line is that Steggie's got options. [smiley=hippy.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 13th, 2004, 11:44pm on 03/12/04 at 00:32:51, StegRock wrote:
Now, the convoluted bullshit starts! In (very) short,... The government of Spain supports us post 9-11 and in our decision to attack Iraq (who, by the way, somewhat ironically, opposers of the war claim was not connected with al-Qaeda); these terrible attacks occur in Spain; people then march in the streets protesting al-Qaida,... NO, not really as they did not formally take "credit" yet, so what they do instead is protest their government for playing down the al-Qaida connection to the attacks because, as per the protesters, the government would then have to admit they were wrong in supporting the U.S. because, of course, that's why this happened (dubious position because, of course, on the other hand, the Spanish government could have immediately attributed the attacks to al-Qaida and road the spin that this is case in point that they took the right side, but, of course, the Spanish government is caught in a Catch-22, on yet another hand, because if they did rush to judgment and blame al-Qaida, yet another group of protesters would have had a problem with that); al-Qaida finally does take "credit". Bottom line, these assholes directly attack you and kill 200 of your people and injure over 1,000 others... Please don't tell me it's better to "passively" support al-Qaeda (out of cowardice, which would be the case here) than to "actively" support the U.S. ... And, a question... A day or two before this happened, did anybody else remember hearing about a similar threat in France? The next thing I know what was threatened there happened in Spain. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 14th, 2004, 2:48pm Well, early exit polls in Spain are indicating that the opposition Socialist party is coming away the winner in their elections. It is said that the big shift occured after the train bombings. I surely hope we are not going to let al-Qaida and their terror tactics now "dictate" politics in the West. [smiley=no.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 14th, 2004, 5:20pm Great... :-/ It's all but in the books in Spain. Now al-Qaida knows and, moreover, can be invigorated by knowing they can affect western politics by blowing people up! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 14th, 2004, 5:36pm on 03/14/04 at 17:20:32, StegRock wrote:
What if they were going to vote against them against anyway? Hell, I know lots of people who are going to vote against Bush because of Iraq. So if a bomb goes off in the US, do we say those people are voting against Bush because of the bomb? That logic does not make sense.... Now, in Spain, the media is making it out that the bomb made all the people change their vote. That is not necessarily the case. The Socialist Party that won only got 43% of the vote. The current ruling party managed 37% of the vote. In polls last week, the ruling conservative party was leading and predicted to win with a REDUCED MAJORITY. So we are talking about MAYBE a 3% swing in the vote. Considering the accuracy of polling and probably a +/- margin of 3%, I would not say the bomb had a huge impact. To have a huge impact, they would have gotten 70% of the vote instead 43% I think the biggest factor is that the Media loves a story. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 14th, 2004, 7:36pm on 03/14/04 at 17:36:44, DirkDiggler wrote:
This may be true. I tend to agree. Quote:
What if elephants flew out of my asshole... Anybody can make that argument. That's the anti-argument. We can "what if" until the cows come home. Quote:
"That logic does not make sense." Yes, that "blanket reasoning" above does not make sense. We are not talking about the people who were going to vote against Bush (or the current ruling party in Spain) and still voted against him; we ARE precisely talking about the people who were going to vote for Bush (or the current ruling party in Spain) and voted against him, or, perhaps, the "swing" voters who may not have voted at all, but did and voted against Bush (or the ruling party in Spain),... hypothetically speaking, of course. "Blanket reasoning" may not make sense overall (hence, the danger of "blanket reasoning", "blanket stereotypes" and "blanket statements"), but it surely could be the case for this or that individual or situation. Quote:
Well, I heard that the swing was more like 5 to 7%. I think that is all one can expect. From what I have heard on the news, it was the estimated 2 to 3 million (undecided) votes, which probably represent 3 or 5 or 7% or whatever percent, that were affected. I mean the bombings happened only one or two days prior, not much is going to change. ... In any event, my, and perhaps the media's as well, at least Fox News's, point is not (just) one of the "fact(s) of the matter". It is more about "perception". If al-Qaida "perceives"/"believes" that their bombings (can) have an effect on this or that, they will proceed to bomb accordingly. They may now perceive/believe that their bombings can sway close political elections in the West. ... We may have one coming up in November ourselves... We just cannot ignore these potential events of cause-and-effect. We have to be aware of them and think them through. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 14th, 2004, 8:57pm Quote:
Yes, 5 to 7%. That makes sense. If three percent of the people change their vote, that would total a 5-7% swing. IE...50 people vote for A and 50 people for B. 3 people change their vote. Now 53-47. 6 % change based on 3 people. Quote:
Fox News is so friggin right wing. Of course they are bummed conservatives lost. I don't think Al-Qaida is motivated by elections per sae. They do have a political agenda....but I think ultimately they got revenge. ASSUMING OF COURSE, IT IS NOT ETA. They too have a political agenda. Quote:
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 14th, 2004, 10:18pm on 03/14/04 at 20:57:03, DirkDiggler wrote:
DD, you're the one who said "3% swing". I get the math. Quote:
Do I sense a convert here? ;) Quote:
Well, we just diagree here. I don't think al-Qaida is that dumb. They don't act just out of revenge. Hell, in the least, why not kill two birds (revenge and political realignment) with one stone. Quote:
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 14th, 2004, 11:24pm on 03/12/04 at 02:02:38, Crash wrote:
The thread for announcements and discussion/trash talking about the "First Annual Gridiron NCAA Hoops Brackets Tourney" here on "the Gridiron" has been set up: http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=58;action=display;num=1079324381. Have at it, Boyz-not-Men! [smiley=afro.gif] ... ;) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 15th, 2004, 3:09pm Anybody else watchin' ESPN's Dream Job? I gotta be honest. From my subjective perspective, I think they've done a good job. I don't know if I agree with LaVar Arrington and Kim "Cold Pizza" being on the panel of judges. But, whatever, somehow they've come down the same final six that I would have chosen. The only switch I might have made was last night I might have kept Nick over Maggie, but that was close call (which it was for them, as well, Maggie had two votes against her). I think Casey/Kasey/the short guy and Aaron are the best two when it comes VERY specifically to anchoring at the anchor desk and they are pretty good field reporters as well. I see it coming down to them. They just "fit the newsy (ESPN) mold". Kelly's got "it", too, but given his advanced age and his very "professional" demeanor (they go hand-in-hand, I suppose), I see him better utilized as a Chris Mortensen-type specialist. Mike's got the perfect young anchor-desk reporter look, beyond that he's very good, but not great. The x-factor is Zacharius (sp. ?). This guy is talented, hands-down. He may be the most all-around talented "speaker" of them all and he knows his shit. He's definitely of the Kevin Mayne mold, though. That may be his Achilles heel. On the other hand, he may just be too good for just reporting. He may be better suited to a more relaxed environment like that of "The Best Damn Sports Show" or something. Maggie was probably kept (for one more week) in part due to the fact that, PC-wise, it probably wouldn't have been looked upon by the "public" as too cool if they cut a black guy and a chick two weeks in a row. She just does not have "it", bottom line (neither did Chet, Chris or Quigs). I think the show is panning out "as it should". Any other thoughts? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Mar 15th, 2004, 3:33pm I've only watched one reality show in my whole life and that is one that is currently running: The Apprentice. I missed out on Dream Job at the beginning, so I never bothered to check it out later. The ads promoting the show seemed to lampoon sports broadcasting quite a bit, so I was probably turned off to it before really giving it a chance. Anyway, the way I see it, ESPN sports anchoring has never been the same since Stuart Scott joined the ranks. Bring back a duo like Charlie Steiner and Keith Olbermann and I'll be very happy. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 15th, 2004, 11:35pm WOW! How about this news from "The REAL Feed"? ... U.S. Denies Suggestion of its Potential Boycott LA Times: Sports (15.03.2004 23:26) In an incident that spotlights the intensity of security concerns about the 2004 Athens Olympics as well as the amplifying power of one of American television's most influential programs, NBC News' "Today" show aired a report Monday suggesting that the U.S. might be weighing a boycott of the Summ... This is not football news, but it is sports news worth leaving up on "The REAL Feed" and that is what I am going to do. [smiley=yes.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 17th, 2004, 10:10pm Random rant about (international) politics of the day... [smiley=soapboxer.gif] When are we going to learn that we are the big boys on the block, the jocks of the high school; we're #1. We are NOT the underdogs, and we all know everyone, including ourselves, loves the underdog, which is actually the contemporary fundamental contradiction of American society that we are working through. Much of what "the world" thinks about us is very akin to (granted, stereotypically) what the nerds feel about the cool kids in high school or, for that matter, how I want Gonzaga or St. Joe's to win the NCAA Championship and not Duke, UConn, Kentucky, etc., etc. Don't kid yourself! Generally speaking, this is simply, exactly what's up, to a degree at least, a degree much greater than anyone admits/wants to admit. They'd love to see us toppled or at least humbled, but with just as unhealthy of a mindset as those two kids from Columbine, a great microcosmic analogy to al-Qaeda, actually. HOWEVER, some actually look to the world's opinion of us when assessing our politics. Kerry's... the Democrats' international approval rating/appeal is looked upon by many, too many, as proof/an endorsement of the legitimacy of his candidacy. On the other hand, Bush's... the Republicans' unpopularity internationally is interpretted as a negative. When, in fact, it is at best a moot point, at worst convoluted delusion. Among the plethora of countries that support a Kerry victory in November is NORTH KOREA, who, by the way, believe that the only way to free the world is to KILL ALL AMERICANS, period. Of course, in some (more liberal) reports, Kerry's being supported by North Korea is spun as a positive. Don't you get it! They don't have OUR best interest at heart. They want us eliminated,... and they support Kerry and the Democratic party. Put it together! These other places don't have OUR best interest at heart, perhaps even the precise opposite in some cases. Just ask yourself this question. So, what does that say about who they support? Quite frankly speaking, this line of realization... understanding is attributable to my being an American resident of South Korea, moreover one who learned the language to a high degree of fluency, for an extensive period of time, seven years. Living among and speaking with the commoners, you see the real deal, not the PC BS, not what's on the news, not what's in (our) books, magazines or newspapers, not what's in museums. It's way more than what can be captured by such mediums. It's like anything... It's life! Okay, step down... :whew: :P ... :) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Mar 18th, 2004, 8:28am on 03/17/04 at 22:10:08, StegRock wrote:
I do hope Kerry spends his time gaining the approvals of the North Koreas, Frances, and Germanies of the world and less time worrying about gaining the approvals of the only ones who can elect him - the Americans. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by kidcrash on Mar 18th, 2004, 12:13pm WOW,that was something steg.could'nt agree more with you and philly.Dont know alot about kerry but the more I find out the less I like him. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Mar 18th, 2004, 12:56pm on 03/18/04 at 12:13:58, kidcrash wrote:
In order to understand Kerry, you only need to know two things... His favorite breakfast: WAFFLES His favorite footwear: FLIP-FLOPS This is an article I particulary enjoyed: http://slate.msn.com/id/2096540/ |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by kidcrash on Mar 18th, 2004, 2:07pm typical democrat |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 18th, 2004, 3:47pm on 03/18/04 at 14:07:21, kidcrash wrote:
oh yea, maybe we should keep this guy in charge of our military planning...... he is scarey! http://www.moveon.org/censure/caughtonvideo/ |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 18th, 2004, 4:59pm on 03/18/04 at 15:47:07, DirkDiggler wrote:
You are getting your info from and citing those lowlifes over at MoveOn.org! [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] This is the same site that about six months ago sanctioned and sponsored a contest for the best anti-Bush commercial. Among the submissions that were inspired was one that compared Bush to Hitler. They threw that one out of the contest. BUT, even just inciting such (erroneous) vitriol and hatred, now THAT'S SCAREY! [smiley=scared.gif] What's on that clip there,... no one remembers exactly what they say all the time... You can nit-pick anyone's words when equivocally presenting them in a vacuum and OUT OF CONTEXT and come up with at least a few inconsistencies and even contradictions. What's better? Saying, "I didn't inhale!" Or, maybe it's better to just matter-of-factly support Saddam Hussein like they in essence do in the clip (at least by way of including the first of the two quotes in their argument). ::) Anyway, that first quote in the clip is semantically up for debate. What is meant by "immediate threat"? Tomorrow, next week, next month, next year, 2 years from now, 3 years from now, 4 years and 364 days from now? He's not really inconsistent there. He's just toeing the VERY fine line of reality, relativity, uncertainty and confidentiality. As for the second quote, since we're nit-picking (and I mentioned relativity and uncertainty), he actually said, "...greater or more immediate threat..." That, logically speaking, IS different than just "immediate threat", moreover, used as a phrase/platform/catch phrase, which is the obvious insinuation of the clip, and that one quote from SEPTEMBER 18, 2002 is the best they could come up with (you know if they had more ammo, they would have used it and SURELY MoveOn.org would have included it in the clip). [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] Don't like FOX News... fine! But, don't go to another extreme and delude yourself with BS from MoveOn.org. ... Although, I am much more of a wag-the-dog-type guy, anyway, I've been told. [smiley=whatever.gif] Case in point,... on 11/18/03 at 13:26:39, StegRock wrote:
Look how I broadly refer to time above: 10 to 15 years or maybe 20 to 50 years! Pretty big window(s), huh? That's just the nature of the beast and the reality of the uncertainty of the circumstances! Bottom, bottom line, are we going to be smallminded about this and "not move on" (ironically) and leave a job half-done, or are we going to see the bigger picture and "move on" and press forth and finish the job? One of the problems with Afganistan back after the thwarted Soviet invasion was that we pulled out too quickly and left them in the lurch. That's according to them. We stayed in South Korea... And, what's going on in Iraq is NOTHING compared to the loss of (American) life during the Korean War. ... They have cell phones and department stores now. ... Whoever's mailing list your on that's forwarding you this stuff, you need to get off it, DD! It's garbage. If you want variety, just stick to CNN, FOX News and MSNBC and think it through for yourself. Don't think MoveOn.org or such similar sources are capturing the pith of an issue by way of out-of-context, 50-second soundbites. ::) ... Meanwhile, we are on the brink of capturing bin-Laden's right-hand man al-Zawahiri... :-X |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 18th, 2004, 5:30pm Quote:
PLEASE DON'T assume that because I post something from a website that I am not able to think things through for myself. You are making a HUGE jump in conclussions. I am very much a self thinker and able to form my own opinions. I don't need rush limbaugh or any other political commentator to tell me how to think. As far as taking things out of context, it was a little political clip. If you think my whole opinion is based on 50 seconds worth of propaganda you are mistaken. I personally think it is funny. He challenged them and they produced. He lost. And, finally, I agree with your assesment of moveon.org. Bunch of fanatics. However, they happened to have a clip that I thought was funny. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 18th, 2004, 6:08pm on 03/18/04 at 17:30:37, DirkDiggler wrote:
DD, funny, you are twisting my words not too unlike how they in the clip did Rumsfeld's. I NEVER said you are unable to think for yourself. Quite the contrary, I proposed "If you want variety, just stick to CNN, FOX News and MSNBC and think it through for yourself." If I did not think you could do so, I would not have made the proposition, or I would have stated it differently, more harshly, I suppose. :-X In your defense, though, I was kind of insinuating that you were not thinking it through for yourself in this instance, which, as you in essence state, you weren't. You were just posting something that struck you as intriguing. I'm proposing that under further review, it may not be as clear cut as MoveOn.org would like you... us to believe. [smiley=shrug.gif] [smiley=letsmakeup.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 18th, 2004, 10:34pm On a lighter note,... Ya know... I'm gonna start performing same-sex marriages here in "the Gridiron Chatroom" just as a publicity stunt! [smiley=wiseguy.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 19th, 2004, 12:15pm Back to the issue of Iraq,... let's cut to the quick here... We did discover weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, namely Saddam Hussein, the (long "e") weapon of mass destruction! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 20th, 2004, 3:31pm Wow! I just saw an excerpt of Bush's recent campaign speech in Florida. He pointed out how the Kerry campaign has been pumping up their endorsements abroad. He then said how he will keep the focus of his campaign where it matters, right here in America (as Philly indicated in his response to my rant). It's like George must have been perusing "the Gridiron" and saw my (related) rant from last week... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] on 03/17/04 at 22:10:08, StegRock wrote:
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 20th, 2004, 5:35pm I am done with politics. SO I am just going to bite my tounge and cut off my fingers when the topic arises....... :-X |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 21st, 2004, 11:58pm StegRant on the way... [smiley=soapboxer.gif] Our media is going to make sure they do their part to contribute to our downfall, whether or not we do in fact fall like the Romans. They've got to ask the tough questions and not just the PC fluff and they can't let people get away making fairly patently false statements without question and they can't just tell "the story" from the PC point of view. I got news for ya, the American public is not that smart. People buy into quick quips and soundbites if it sounds like something they agree with, and then spread "the news" to others who may not have time to think it through and then generalizations get perpetuated. And, people cannot necessarily think/see through PC fluff to the truth. Just a few examples from this weekend (since I watched even more news than usual after f'n Gonzaga lost ::) ... ;) )... On Saturday, I listened to a guy say that we are less safe now than we were on 9/11. The reporter did not even ask, "What do you mean by that?" I mean, logically, that statement is questionable, not to mention actually. When is "now"? Today, yesterday... Is it me or were we not attacked today, yesterday? ... Another generalization that will become fact for some people and then reiterated. Of course, that is without even addressing the actual/factual truth of the statement, which is VERY dubious. ... Today, I watched a bit of 60 Minutes and their interview with this guy Richard Clarke, ex-White House anti-terror advisor. I mean he said a lot of things I don't see eye-to-eye with, but, whatever, he knows more of the facts than I do, FOR SURE, even though he may be presenting things equivocally. Anyway, I am not going to try (as a reporter, no less a mere observer) to debate the facts with him. That would be a losing approach. But, when he says, "Our attacking Iraq is analagous to if we attacked Mexico after Japan attacked Pearl Harbor," Leslie Stahl's gotta stop and say, "Wait a minute," and call him on it. I mean, first of all, that is logically inaccurate. We did in fact attack Afganistan, the country that harbored al-Qaeda. So, it wouldn't have been like if we attacked Mexico after being attacked by Japan. Just within his own reasoning and premises (which themselves are questionable), it would be analogous to if we attacked Japan and then Mexico. But, come on... Let's not suggest that Mexico circa 1941 in "relation" (or lack thereof ;) ) to Japan is analogous to Iraq and their "relation" to Afganistan now. Whether or not there was any direct, provable connection between Saddam or Saddam's Iraq and the Taliban, which ruled Afganistan, al-Qaeda or Muslim extremists organizations in general, these are dudes on the same side, as a matter of fact. They are both in the same region of the same continent, the middle east, which is defined by a certain (anti-American) "air", are VERY hostile to Israel and openly support Palestine and the PLO. It would have just been a matter of time after 9/11 before they would have been on the same exact page. ... Anyway, he can say whatever he wants. He's trying to make himself feel better as it was under his specific watch that 9/11 occurred (and ALL the major terrorist attacks against our country over the past 11 years starting from the bombing of the Twin Towers in '93, the U.S.S. Cole, etc., etc.), moron. Not to mention, his writing his book now is all about the almighty [smiley=money.gif] and maximizing the marketablility of the book, greedy bast. ... So, Dateline does a story about this she-male, who was beaten to death in Newark, California. Terrible story! No one deserves to die like that. That having been said, the story is presented in a way that only empowers these gay and transgender people while not at all encouraging much-needed proactive critical reflection on the whole event. What is reporting about? Empowering one side or getting at the core of the matter. The short of "the story", this male starts living as a female, named Gwen, sometime in his/her late childhood/early teens. Her mother and family accept this and support it. Fine, whatever! More pussy left for us (real) men! Anyway, as she grows up, she gets into a pretty hardcore party scene. She starts hanging out with a VERY shady crowd of YOUNG GUYS in this house where these dudes get together to drink, do drugs, party. This is a dangerous situation, period, not to mention if you are a hidden gender-bender flirting with the boyz. So, he-she "posing" as a girl ;) has anal sex with two of these guys. In the story, it comes out that she pulled her pants down just enough and lets them in the back door. Young, wasted horny guys partying will do anything; not to mention he made a pretty good-looking chick. After some time, they start wondering about Lila as she called herself with them. The sex was always the same and she acted odd when they went for the [smiley=titflash.gif] and the real goods. Eventually, as one could only expect, the truth comes out. They beat her to death, mainly one of the dudes that tagged her (gee, big surprise... he's wasted and pissed that he's just learned he fucked a guy in the ass [smiley=lickmyass.gif] ). These guys are tried for a hate crime; I guess they are in jail. I don't know. They skirted over that part. Anyway, they next show all the transgenders and gays coming out and marching. The reporter then asks Gwen's mother the "hard" question. Do you wish Gwen just stayed a boy as none of this would have happened if he did, as if there was ANY chance on the planet that she was going to answer "yes"? FLUFF! Of course, she says no! Lying about your sexual orientation with sexual partners was was NEVER asked about or addressed in the piece. Her putting herself in such dangerous circumstances and her mother's ignorance of her partying lifestyle and not broaching that subject with her and warning her were NEVER questioned. In the end, the show host says it's a story "we can learn a lot from". Learn a lot of what? That we, alcohol- and drug-infested partyers, should watch out for gender-benders when having sex and then not kill them if we've found out that we have been deceived and gone ahead and had anal sex with them!?!? Or, we, the average general public, should yet again feel bad for the homosexual and gender-bender community and support them!?!? Of course, it was quickly pointed out that the gay and transgender marchers are for their right to present themselves to society as they so choose. So, again, if you are a horny liquored- and drugged-up partyer, remember it is your job to, in your haze, make sure to grab around and check for a cock before plowin' anally! Again, for the rest of us regular folk, we learn a lot of what? The group who could REALLY learn a VERY valuable lesson from this report is the gay and transgender community. Instead, they're just emboldened by this kind of reporting, rather than encouraged to perhaps act a little more prudently, wisely and responsibly, especially given their (surely admittedly, no?) unique circumstances. Once again, an issue of responsibility (moreover, as a proactive solution) takes a backseat to rights-based reasoning and reporting. I mean in this story quite clearly 2 + 2 = 4. The result here, though very sad, was not at all surprising. The report does not get at the "REAL" core of the issue and is just American-style PC fluff/spin that encourages the wrong people the wrong way and potentially makes us weaker as a whole as we continue to feel sorry for someone and lean on our rights instead of taking responsibility for the circumstances we put ourselves in. Self-absorbedly focusing on "our (individual) choice, opinion(s), rights and freedom(s)" just for themselves have surely started to trump "(reflection on) what we do with our choice, opinion, rights and freedoms", the more insightful and virtuous line of thought and action. Step down, but not off... ?.?.? ... [smiley=boxer.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 23rd, 2004, 4:53pm I'm confused (nothing new [smiley=awwgee.gif] ). Is there a war on terrorism or is there not? Israel assassinates Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin. I understand that the immediate, and possibly even not-so-immediate, ramifications of this may not be good, moreover for us in the U.S. So, I "get" the general (PC, I guess) politics behind the backlash by the international community. I also wonder sometimes about why we stick by Israel so closely. It sometimes seems like we should cut our losses when it comes to Israel. [smiley=whatever.gif] All of that having been said, a WELL-KNOWN backer of Islamic-fundamentalist terrorism has been eliminated. That seems like a fairly consistent move in the war against terrorism (and, let's make no mistake, the war on terrorism is a war on Islamic-fundamentalist terrorism regardless of all the broad-sweeping rhetoric); actually, it would seem to be progress in the war against terrorists. I digress... If we assassinated bin-Laden, folks, that's going to piss off a whole lot of Muslim extremists. There will probably be a "backlash" at first, a bad one at that. Does this mean we puss-out and don't do it if the opportunity presents itself and capture is not a reasonable option? Anyway, my ultimate point here... If Pope John Paul II, a great man and religious leader of his time, who only professes peace (and was against us in our war against Iraq, but a man I still respect very highly), were assassinated (like he almost was back in the 80's at the end of the barrel of a gun of a Muslim extremist), yes, there would be great sadness the world over, BUT there would also be A LOT of "BUTS" too! It's a terrible tragedy, BUT it was under his watch that priests were molesting little boys and sweeping it under the carpets. It's a terrible tragedy, BUT he is the head of the Catholic Church, which spearheaded the Crusades (a whole world ago). It's a terrible tragedy, BUT he was an outdated, unprogressive conservative who the Catholic Church is better without. We'd surely be hearing all of these "BUTS" in the background. So, WHERE ARE ALL THESE "BUTS" CONCERNING A REAL SCUMBAG LIKE Sheik Ahmed Yassin? Fine, we can play goosey-goosey politics "in general". BUT, there are A WHOLE LOT OF "BUTS" here I ain't hearin' that should be being spoken about or at least acknowledged more! There is a fight against terrorism going on and this guy was a terrorist! This deserves a good ole valley-girl, "HELLOOOOO!!!!!" ?.?.? Not to mention, along the lines of my previous post, it's funny (or, I guess, not funny) how reporters are not, when interviewing a Palestinian(-American), asking the hard questions about the Sheik's connections to terrorism? On the news, it's just Muslims and Jews spouting off... of course, in opposite directions and without resolution! Thanks for performing your duty of acting as mediators and seekers/revealers of truth, Mr. and Mrs. reporter, anchor and journalist! [smiley=nono.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 25th, 2004, 12:06pm Anybody else here watching Stephen King's Kingdom Hospital? You've got to like it if for nothing more than it's pioneering spirit... a straight-up "horror" TV series. I personally enjoy the horror genre. Anyway, for you guys watching it, you guys must be eating it up when it comes to the character Dr. Stegeman?!?! [smiley=nono.gif] "You're going to have a heart-attack, Steg!" ::) ... [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] They actually call him "Steg", and he is a very uptight [smiley=dick.jpg] . [smiley=nono.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 26th, 2004, 3:11pm Well, Steg's grad-school batting average continues to plummet. Down to .400... This, I must admit, comes as a surprise and a half. [smiley=shrug.gif] Whatever, though. It was very unlikely that I would have chosen them over Catholic U., anyway. There are three more responses I am still waiting on. Two of those three would give CUA a run for its money (literally speaking, ;) so to speak), one of them especially. The third I am pretty sure I would not choose over CUA. We'll see, though! [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] What I gotta ask is... Where did those good vibrations you all were sending me go, fellas? [smiley=uh.gif] ... [smiley=whatever.gif] Let's crank 'em up again! [smiley=zenmaster.gif] ... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on Mar 26th, 2004, 4:31pm 8-) Good Luck with the other schools, but maybe its a sign for "The Gridiron Fantasty Football Show." I hear Liz Cho is a big Pats fan....and like small units, so you're in!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 26th, 2004, 5:27pm It's funny. I was going to put a little message in there specifically to you, TJ, saying how "the Gridiron Factor" (or whatever) just got another "backhanded shot in the arm". ;) ... :D ... [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] Regarding the comment about MY Liz Cho, [smiley=flipoffangrily.gif] sit on it and rotate! She likes to, too, actually! Well, not on that... little finger-sized things like what you sport don't satisfy MY Liz, spal... on THIS Steggie special... [smiley=dick.jpg] ... [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] [smiley=tonguin.gif] ... [smiley=wave.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on Mar 26th, 2004, 5:40pm If by Finger size you mean 10', than ok [smiley=flamewar.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 26th, 2004, 5:51pm on 03/26/04 at 17:40:39, The Juror wrote:
Though she does have a "foot" fetish, a.k.a. a "feetish" [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] , and being amidst TEN FEET would surely get her all juicy,... my friend, I must tell you, you have some strange fingers. [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] ... [smiley=cantcatch.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 28th, 2004, 12:23pm on 03/25/04 at 12:06:42, StegRock wrote:
Well, as it turns out, it is actually spelled "Stegman", not "Stegeman". That was revealed in the last episode. ... In other "Bleachers-worthy" news, my alma mater, the University of Denver Pioneers, yesterday upset the No. 1 college hockey team in America in a 1-to-0 nail-biter to advance to the "Frozen Four", the NCAA Division I hockey championship tournament's version of the final four. GO DU!! GO DU!! GO DU!! Article about the game: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=1770116. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by bgsgfan on Mar 28th, 2004, 11:02pm I cannot believe someone as effeminine as Mike Hall won the Dream Job... that America voted for someone that, ummmm, swishy. Bottom line is that he did much better with the very last situation where the prompters went out and new situations came up, so he deserves his props. I really think Stuart Scott was surprised as well. Still, the dude has Keri Strugg as his favorite sports moment and AGREED with Kornheiser when Kornheiser said figure skating wasn't a sport during the PTI segment. It has to be one way or the other (either judged competitions are sports or they aren't), and that bothered me from a credibility standpoint. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 30th, 2004, 12:50am bg, I am with ya. I didn't watch it because I was afraid that the result might nauseate me. I thought that they might just let the chick win, which would have been a travesty. She was not very good at all. I thought Aaron, Casey, Zacherius and Kelly were all natural and naturals. Mike was okay. As I stated in my post earlier here on "the Bleachers", he did have the look. And, they say looks mean nothing. Casey, though I thought he had the facial look, was too short; Zacherius was too hippy; Kelly was too old, and Aaron, though I thought he too had the look, was too mixed and didn't have it as good as Mike did. Their choosing Mike is all about the look. ... on 03/04/04 at 18:10:21, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Details, details... The telephone game persists throughout the ages, among all ages, and came back to whack me right in the head tonight. I still have three other schools I am awating word from, but I am starting to settle into the idea of going to CUA. As such, while just putzing around tonight, I was looking into schools in D.C. I know D.C. is a fairly big college town (especially vis-a-vis Denver, CO where I did my undergrad) and I kind of wanted to see what the scene is like and who my "neighbors" would be. Eventually, I recalled Jim's post here about Marymount University. So, I look for it. No dice. I try list after list of colleges in D.C., and I still couldn't find it. I'm like, "What the f...?" ?.?.? Finally, and shamefully not sooner, I just do a search on Marymount University. I find out that it is not in D.C.; it is in Arlington, Virginia. But, I, and DD in his question, clearly had stated "in D.C.", not " ... Well, I started out this post a "Beatnik", now I am [smiley=gonecrazy.gif] . Get the padded ambulance and straightjacket. ;) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 30th, 2004, 6:06am I dated my wife for 2 years before she knew I was from New Jersey, and not Philadelphia. I was born in West Jersey Hospital, lived in Camden for 2 years, then moved to a suburb. It was a pretty funny moment as she got to rag on me from being from Jersey. Marymount U is in Arlington, VA. It is less than 1.5 miles away from DC. In case you are wondering, I am not 32. I am 32 years, 10 months, 6 days, 10 hours, and 43 minutes. :P |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Mar 30th, 2004, 8:58am I was looking at home prices in the DC area because I saw an interesting job opportunity in DC. How does anyone afford to live anywhere near DC? If someone has insights on real estate in the area, preferably close to a Metro stop, that is not outrageously priced and would be a good area for a person to live with a family, let me know... |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 30th, 2004, 10:18am on 03/30/04 at 08:58:15, Philly wrote:
[smiley=laugh.gif] Actually, the homes are way over priced, but, when you sell them you make money. You have to remember, the cost of living is high, BUT, they salaries are higher too. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 30th, 2004, 1:57pm on 03/30/04 at 06:06:41, DirkDiggler wrote:
You're missing the point. [smiley=shrug.gif] Or, you're making a joke. [smiley=joker.gif] Or, both. [smiley=uh.gif] on 03/30/04 at 08:58:15, Philly wrote:
on 03/30/04 at 10:18:02, DirkDiggler wrote:
The age old problem of the theory of relativity, financial relativity that is. [smiley=money.gif] My kingdom to live in (the mountains of) Colorado (Silverthorne, [smiley=smitten.gif] perhaps) on a New York salary. [smiley=greedy.gif] ... Ain't happenin', at least no way "conventionally". Anyway, as one who is looking to attend grad school in the D.C. area (land mine), this is good info to know, at any rate. A student's financial world, moreover, a married grad student's,... the financial bubble students exist in is a rather fixed thing, not very much affected by the local economy (except, perhaps, in the area of tuition, but which is ultimately offset by proportional financial aid and a better-paying part-time job, so...; but, actually, tuition is not necessarily a reflection of local economy, anyway). Bottom line, I have "x" (low) amount of cash to work with wherever I go. Cost of living should be a factor I should at least consider... that I was, but wasn't. I kind of knew, but did not know precisely (and, I guess, still don't) that it was as expensive as it is being described/intimated to live in and around D.C. On the other hand, there are always deals for students, so... [smiley=whatever.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Mar 30th, 2004, 2:29pm on 03/30/04 at 13:57:33, StegRock wrote:
I'm sure your [smiley=priest.gif] university has housing options? Also (though I'm sure I don't need to say this as you're already doing it), do a ton of research on grants for continuing education. There is a LOT of money out there - you just have to find it. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 30th, 2004, 2:40pm on 03/30/04 at 14:29:59, Philly wrote:
How did you make out when you went to grad school? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Mar 30th, 2004, 2:50pm on 03/30/04 at 14:40:49, StegRock wrote:
I was young and stupid and didn't look for money as much as I should have. I worked full-time through grad school and commuted while living with the parents, so that helped. Unfortunately I put most of my tuition into loans which I'm still paying off. [smiley=shootmyself.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 30th, 2004, 3:28pm Jeff, I asked that because it is quite a bit of a misnomer, especially at the Master's level. As I have been advised by Dr. Seeburger (who you might recall my bringing up before) at my alma mater, DU, if you get any money at the Master's level, consider yourself very lucky. (Terminal/Undecided) Master's students are stuck in the middle and typically looked upon as cash cows. As we try to educate our society, there is a lot of (scholarship and grant) money for undergrads. There is also huge fundage for Ph.D. students, which, depending on the program I go to, I may or may not be considered as from the get-go, probably not though. It is also VERY discipline-contingent. In the field of education, which, if my mammory,... [smiley=doh.gif] I mean memory ;) serves me correctly, is the area in which you received your higher degree, and which is an area of HIGH NEED, there are very substantial monies, e.g., to get teachers and school counselors properly educated (including with Ed.D.'s or Master's in Education) and certified. There is also quite a bit of available monies in the natural sciences and computer science. I have Peterson's Getting Money for Graduate School. Money for Master's students in the field of philosophy is almost non-existent. Ultimately, as Dr. Seeburger suggested, do a reasonable amount of research, but not too much, and do not expect much, proportionate to your efforts. Also, I would venture to say that 75+% of funding (not loans) for graduate students comes directly from the attending institution, anyway. In any event, you do the basics. You fill out your FAFSA. The school gets it and based on a combination of your ranking in the program and your financial need, the school and department put together a package of (school, partner and departmental) fellowships, (school, partner, departmental and federal) grants, (teaching, research, etc.) assistantships, any other stipends, work-study and, of course, student loans. The other side of the "coin" (no pun intended), at least in the case of philosophy, is that for some programs, particularly those on the "VERY high end", either academically or financially, getting accepted MEANS receiving a FULL tuition waiver AND an assistantship; so, you are totally covered and actually earn a little. That is actually the case with one of the schools (for which I am awaiting a response) and could be(come) the case with CUA. [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on Mar 30th, 2004, 3:38pm Steg, Just charge the users to this site a few schillings to help defer the cost to Catholic U and with the money you make as a male prostitute you should be ok. Plus the FF Factor show will be rolling in the green as well!! Just stirring the pot my friend!! [smiley=downthetubes.gif] [smiley=coach.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 30th, 2004, 3:51pm [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=sinister.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] "The [smiley=policeman.gif]" Sting: "StegRooooooocks-ann, you don't have turn on the red light." [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=sinister.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] Isn't that what I have a wife for, though? [smiley=hooters.gif] ... [smiley=pimpin.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=sinister.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] Moreover, an exotic one... [smiley=bow.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=sinister.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] My ribs are killin' me! [smiley=spchef.gif] ... [smiley=lickinmychops.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=sinister.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on Mar 30th, 2004, 4:10pm Or you can publish a recipe book "1000 ways to make D-Soup!!" Mmmm Mmmm Good Vibrations!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 30th, 2004, 5:27pm Yea, good vibrators... I mean vibrations... Vibratin' D Soup! ;) [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=sinister.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Mar 31st, 2004, 12:27pm Well, snap back to reality... This is the school that I alluded to in my long post above and was the school that had become my #1 choice, even over Hawaii. This is disappointing, but, again, I am not under the gun like I was back in the fall. CUA and "the Gridiron Factor" (or whatever) have surely gotten a HUGE shot in the arm (Keith). A visit down to D.C. will now definitely be in the works. Of the two schools I have yet to hear from, one could beat out CUA; it would be a close call; the other probably would not. Batting average... .333. [smiley=no.gif] ... [smiley=whatever.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 1st, 2004, 6:56pm Regarding all this business with the 9-11 commission, let me say this in defense of both Bush AND Clinton... I just watched a reporter from liberally-predisposed ABC News inquire about the "military", NOT diplomatic, options we had prior to and (the implication of his question quite obviously was) to prevent 9-11. For goodness sake, how tenditious of a question! Look at the opposition we met when we (de facto, folks, whether you like it or not) freed an invaded Kuwait from the clutches of Sadam Hussein's Iraq. And, we all know the opposition we met and that has swelled up regarding our invading Iraq for the purposes of enforcing the U.N. mandate and deposing Saddam Hussein. Hell, there are even some far-lefties and internationals who even think we were wrong going into Afganistan POST 9-11. ... So, yea, Mr. Reporter, who is asking this question now, there were "military" options and you and all of your fellow liberal journalists and readers would have been real down with a PRE-EMPTIVE strike in Afganistan or elsewhere in the Middle East,... which could have prevented 9-11 from happening,... but then, ironically, there would have been no 9-11 to "justify" it (in the first place)... for all you (circular-reasoning know-it-alls). [smiley=nono.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 2nd, 2004, 9:46pm WOW! I just found a new show that ROCKS, the "Dennis Miller Show" on CNBC. [smiley=havinablast.gif] I am smitten BIG-time [smiley=smitten.gif] and will definitely be becoming a HUGE fan of this show over the ensuing weeks. I am also just happy for Dennis Miller. This guy is REALLY, GENUINELY intelligent,... intellectual, but has had the roughest of times finding his niche. Also, he is conservative, but NOT AT ALL religious or Christian. Two thumbs up [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif] to CNBC for giving this guy a chance and a forum. ... First edit: He just used the word "substantive"!!! I'm in love!!! [smiley=smitten.gif] ... I digress... Also, tonight, on The O'Reilly Factor, I learned that Bill Bennett, an OUTSTANDING and absolutely logical and sensible political commentator, has a Ph.D. in Philosophy! [smiley=yinandyang.gif] ... [smiley=thinking.gif] ... [smiley=zenmaster.gif] ... [smiley=bow.gif] ... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Apr 2nd, 2004, 10:46pm on 04/02/04 at 21:46:52, StegRock wrote:
I've seen the show a few times and enjoyed it. Can you believe that Miller used to be one of those Hollywood Liberals? Guess he saw the error of his ways. Actually I like the show because he seems to be just a bit right of middle (same place I am) and isn't an extremist in any way. He is more than willing to throw a barb at the Bush Administration when it is warranted, but he isn't a knee-jerk reactor like so many other media types. Anyway, I'm a big fan of Dennis Miller as long as he isn't doing Monday Night Football. [smiley=thumbsdown.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 2nd, 2004, 11:52pm on 04/02/04 at 22:46:02, Philly wrote:
Just based on his areligious approach alone, he surely is not far right. But, I would say that he is farther right than just a bit right of middle. I, for one, would put him smack-dab between far right and middle. For one, he does openly support Bush. That's surely the very "right" thing to do (double-entendre intended). ;) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 3rd, 2004, 7:22pm Come on... Admit it now! Don't be embarrassed! Who else thinks the Coors Light [smiley=alcoholic.gif] "Wing-dog [smiley=dog.gif] " commercial is just a touch touching? :'( |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 5th, 2004, 10:21pm I posted the (ABC-only version of the) following over at ABCNews.com on their message board regarding the Jennings special tonight "Jesus and Paul" and I am sure it is going to get lost in the shuffle and never get responded to. I also posted it (without the commentary on the music) at Beliefnet.com and am awaiting a response. I want to just save it here and perhaps let anybody respond who can do so intelligently: Look... I'm no Pontius Pilate apologist and I am certainly NOT an anti-Semite, but why did the Peter Jennings show TOTALLY ignore and Dateline last night skirt over the issue of (the group of Jews, whatever the size, opting for the release of) Barabbas (over Jesus)? Is this just the (liberal) backlash for the apologetic view of Pilate that "The Passion of The Christ" took? TOTALLY IGNORING or even just skirting over the issue seems to be just a bit disingenuous, though, especially for a "news" program. Also, a side note, I tend to agree with those who are, let's say, "unentertained" by the music. It may not be "insulting", but it is somewhere between corny and tacky, for sure, and that is not to say that it is not music of my time. I'm 33 and love all kinds of varieties of rock n' roll and pop (though I do not have much of a taste for gospel music). ... By the way, as per my last post, I am still awaiting some wing-dog closet weepers to crawl out! [smiley=annoyed.gif] ... ;) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 6th, 2004, 3:21pm on 04/05/04 at 22:21:59, StegRock wrote:
Oh, come on... No one else gets just a little teary from the Coors Light wing-doggy [smiley=dog.gif] commercial!? ... Moving right along, some random thoughts on the day, or should I say, last night... Since I am well known for being rather republican, I wanted tell you all this. Late last night I was watching Hannity & Colmes, which I have on now and then, in the background or late night about one to three times a week. Anyway, I tuned in late last night while trying to go to sleep. The show was terrible, especially on the part of Hannity (who I like (more of the two)). First, they had this kid on who is now known for his yawning and acting stupid while standing right in camera view behind President Bush while he was making a recent speech. They, mainly Hannity, doted over this 13-year-old teenager (read, not little kid) like he had comported himself properly and "did a good job". The kid was "acting" dumb during the interview as well. The father said that when he went to give him a talking-to and show him the video (I wish you guys could hear my voice as I speak this aloud while writing it), "He (his son) just thought it was the funniest thing. Uh, ha, ha." And...? ... Look, the kid behaved terribly. He was "acting" retarded like the fat kid, Andy Melanakaus (sp. ?), who they send out to do stupid shit on "The Jimmy Kimmel Show". That doesn't mean he needs a public flogging, but don't go putting him on national TV and, de facto, encouraging his behavior, with dickless daddy sitting there knodding his head while his son continued to do (a toned-down version of) his little retarded attention-getting Andy Melanakaus act. No sense of pride or self-respect at all in this kid. Next, they have a Vietnam War veteran on and were "addressing" the issue of Kerry's public condemnations of atrocities committed by American troops during the Vietnam War, going as far as saying they were war crimes to which he himself was complicit. First of all, it was funny watching Hannity try to figure out which way to go with it. You can see that in one breath he wants to blame Kerry for his admitted "war crimes", but, in the next, he DEFINITELY doesn't because of where he stands on our military. It takes him awhile to finally stammer into a pithy question to the vet about what he thinks about Kerry's openly discussing specific "atrocities" committed by American troops in Vietnam. At this point, though, time had run out and we didn't even get to hear out the vet's answer to this fairly substantive question. Lastly, they had on this middle-school teacher who was fired from the parochial school he worked at allegedly because he gave an extra-credit assignment to his 7th-grade class involving their having to see "The Passion of The Christ". I don't know if he deserved to lose his job or not, but he was surely equivocating during the early part of the interview (i.e. until I shut it off). Yet, Hannity just got his back saying that he did "nothing wrong". Look, I like the movie A LOT, but it is "Rated-R" and it is definitely within reason for parents not to want to (have to) take their 7th-grade-age children to see it; not that that was the issue, but his even assigning it presupposes a pretentious belief and assertion, which is not his to make. There was quite clearly more to the story, but Hannity had made up his mind, which involves his oversimplified, chauvinistic support of the movie and his defense of it because of all the flak it is catching. This, for him, became another case of that and he, as such, knee-jerk wanted to defend the movie and, thus, this guy, who in fact may be in the wrong, in the process. It was just a TERRIBLE show, illogical, nonsensical, "unpithy", etc. ... I also have a question that perhaps someone can answer... Especially in light of the FCC crackdown as of late, could someone explain to me how NYPD Blue, a show I enjoy, gets away with using banned words (last week it was dickhead and bullshit) on network television? How does that work? [smiley=shrug.gif] ... ?.?.? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Apr 6th, 2004, 5:13pm on 04/06/04 at 15:21:01, StegRock wrote:
Not at all. I got a little chuckle out of it the first time I saw it (mainly because of the term wing-dog in light of the previous wing-man commercials). Quote:
I think that there are less-stringent FCC rules concerning late-night (beginning at 10:00 PM eastern, apparently) television. That's why they are able to show nudity and use banned words. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 6th, 2004, 7:59pm on 04/06/04 at 17:13:37, Philly wrote:
Alright, let me ask this then,... especially since I seem to often think/see things quite differently than the usual... Do you "get" at what point I am just slightly touched (I am actually "slightly touched", period [smiley=gonecrazy.gif] ... ;) ... [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] ) by the commercial and why, kind of? ... Also, anybody else care to respond? Also, Jeff, I know you've specifically divulged to me that you are not much of a dog person. You are a cat person. If you don't "get" me/"feel" it, that could surely be part of it. Quote:
Interesting. That is late night here and on the west coast where they delay stuff, but in the Mountain Time Zone, where they do not delay viewing, that's just 8:00 p.m. Does anybody else have any more specific knowledge (of the "law of the land"/rationale) on this? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Apr 6th, 2004, 9:38pm on 04/06/04 at 19:59:04, StegRock wrote:
I'm not sure that had anything to do with it. I can honestly say I find there are much better commercials with dogs than with cats. I am more of a cat person because I prefer low-maintenance pets. Dogs are much more needy - although I have a dog that I love dearly. I guess I didn't really delve too deeply into the commercial. It was just a "dogs are a good way for a guy to pick up chicks" type of deal. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 7th, 2004, 11:51pm on 03/28/04 at 12:23:54, StegRock wrote:
The "madness" of the final four of college hockey "faces off" tomorrow at high noon. First game: DU versus UMD on ESPN2. For those interested in getting up to speed: [smiley=whatever.gif] http://espn.go.com/ncaa/2004frozenfour.html; http://denverpioneers.ocsn.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/040504aaa.html. GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 8th, 2004, 2:26pm GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] THIS GAME HAS BEEN CRAZY, ONE OF THE BEST HOCKEY GAMES I'VE EVER WATCHED!!! UMD went up early, 2 - 0 in the first five or so minutes of the first period. That's how it stood through the first. DU was ON THE ATTACK in the second, getting a great pressure goal in about the 10th minute. They got a terrible penalty, a good call though, and UMD went back up two, 3 - 1, with a power-play goal at around the 15th minute. That's how it stood at the end of the second. THEN THE THIRD BEGAN... I was actually in the bathroom. ::) I hear cheering. I run out. DU scored about two and half minutes in. I go back in and seconds later hear more cheering. I just thought they were replaying the goal or the DU fans were just picking it up. NOT! They scored AGAIN WITHIN LIKE 30 seconds. IT WAS NUTS!!! DU just scored AGAIN about three minutes ago to take the lead for the first time 4 - 3. That's how it stands now with five minutes left in the final period! GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] Side note, fast-paced hockey without ALL the fighting... AWESOME! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Apr 8th, 2004, 3:14pm on 04/08/04 at 14:26:40, StegRock wrote:
That's why NHL play-off hockey is so exciting. There is much less fighting and the officials call far fewer penalties. Although I still think it is good fun to see a couple goons go at it once in a while. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 8th, 2004, 3:43pm Okay, off the horn, finally! ... DU wins, 5 - 3 final! This game really had everything. With about 40 seconds left UMD had a goal under review. It was very stressful. The initial call, which was correct and fairly obvious, was no goal. That was upheld! DU went on to score an empty-netter with about 8 seconds left. GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GREAT GAME, Pioneers! Now we await the victor of the BC - Maine semi-final. These finals are being held in Boston, so BC surely has home-ice advantage, BIG-time! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 8th, 2004, 4:37pm Just thought I'd share this link while it's ALL DU. After the BC-Maine game this evening that will definitely change... http://espn.go.com/ncaa/2004frozenfour.html Just enjoyin' myself, guys! [smiley=dancin.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Apr 8th, 2004, 5:03pm I hope my boss doesn't find out, but I just spent a lot of today reading the transcript from Condoleezza Rice's public testimony before the 9/11 Commission. I found it to be very interesting reading. I think she answered most of questions very thoroughly. There was only one question that I found that went unanswered and that was concerning the instructions given to the FBI field offices during the "threat spike" during the summer of 2001. A couple of the Commissioners noted that, while Rice insisted that the FBI was instructed to look into domestic issues, there was no evidence this ever happened. I imagine that will be addressed in the coming weeks. Also, the Commission felt that a classified Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB) that was discussed in great detail needed to be declassified. Yet the Commission had full access to it. I don't understand why it needs to be in the public domain. I think there are matters of national security and such that NEED to remain classified. Everything else seemed to be logically explained. The question I have is that the same people who are complaining that we didn't use military force against Al-Qaeda prior to 9/11 are the same people complaining that we shouldn't have used military force in Iraq after 9/11. They seem to want to have it both ways. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 8th, 2004, 6:38pm on 04/08/04 at 17:03:26, Philly wrote:
Here, here... I don't care what "they" say. At this point, the 9-11 commission is more, or at least just as much, about party politics and the '04 presidential election than it is about the truth of the matter and... 9-11-01. [smiley=no.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 9th, 2004, 12:20am As if you guys asked for this,... ;) here is the latest report on the University of Denver's stunning comeback victory over UMD: http://insidecollegehockey.com/9NCAA/2004/semi1game_0232.htm. At this point, the NCAA Championship game is set: DU vs. Maine, broadcast live on ESPN at 7:00 SATURDAY night. I hope to see yous there. GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 9th, 2004, 6:27pm Guys, I've got some news on the grad-school front, not necessarily new news, more like just further research that points me (more directly) in a particular direction. It might be of particular interest to the guys around here/(in the D.C./south and central Jersey areas). I am still awaiting word from two schools. HOWEVER, a BIG factor for me from a general academic perspective is simply number of classes available. This is not the case for many. Some want departments with "heavyweights" in (whatever aspect of) the discipline; some want to focus on individual research; etc. I mainly want classes, sheer numbers of classes (that I am interested in, of course, but that's pretty broad). And, in that case, the clear-cut choice is Catholic University. They typically offer around 12 graduate courses per semester, 9 of 12 of which from their Fall '03 schedule I would surely be interested in. This is significantly more than any of the others. Of the two I am awaiting word on, one of them only offers 4 graduate-level classes next fall; the other 5. :P Side note, with respect to rankings (of graduate programs in Philosophy specifically), which are admittedly quite unreliable and definitely not very consistent, the general consensus would put Catholic University second (Toledo, by the way, a fairly distant fourth) of the schools (potentially) left for me. But, bottom line, back to my main point, none of the others, including the one that (I would say) ranks above CUA offers nearly as many classes semester in and semester out as CUA. That school I would rank #1 is the one that only offers 4 next semester. I would say it is almost, as in to the tune of 90% sure, a foregone conclusion that I will be in Washington D.C. here sometime soon. Just thought I'd let yous, especially those that "are in the mix", so to speak, know. :) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 10th, 2004, 1:44pm on 04/05/04 at 22:21:59, StegRock wrote:
Well, I watched the Fox News "Jesus show" last night "Who is Jesus?" First off, though I thought it was good, I didn't think it answered that question very well. A more suitable title might have been something like "Jesus and the Rise of Christianity". It also would have been better to see before all the other shows as it was more of a "Jesus 101" show. It was only one hour and did not go nearly as in depth as the others. HOWEVER, like a U.S. Today report, it was VERY unbiased and, well, "fair and balanced", to use their own motto. They dealt with the "Jewish" issue much better and more professionally than did Jennings or Dateline. Their presentation, which was the very first segment of the show, hammered in "Jesus as a Jew" with just a barrage of facts and history (relatively speaking at least; they didn't go on and on about Pilate OR Barabbas, i.e. with the blame game) as opposed to the rather "on-the-defensive", politicized and pretentious way the issue was dealt with on the other shows. I came away with a MUCH better understanding of "Jesus the Jew" in just 15 or so minutes of the Fox show than I did in hours of viewing the other shows and their defensive ramblings (though they were surely much more complete in other ways than the Fox show). Overall, worth a look-see; they all are. Anything that gets you to thinking about something like this is good for the soul, so to speak, and that can't hurt! Happy Easter (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=58;action=display;num=1050834394)!!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 10th, 2004, 4:29pm Here's the absolute latest on tonight's NCAA Hockey Champsionship game (ESPN, 7 p.m.): http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=1779167; http://insidecollegehockey.com/9NCAA/2004/friday_0232.htm. GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 10th, 2004, 11:26pm [smiley=dancin.gif] CHAMPS!!! [smiley=dancin.gif] What a game! Those last two minutes with Maine with what amounted to an eventual 6-on-3 advantage just assaulting our goal... WHEW... and WOW! It was thrilling! GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] http://espn.go.com/ncaa/2004frozenfour.html; http://denverpioneers.ocsn.com/. GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Apr 12th, 2004, 9:41am on 04/10/04 at 23:26:09, StegRock wrote:
Congrats on the win. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 12th, 2004, 10:55am Thanks a BUNCH, Jeff! Much appreciated! [smiley=bow.gif] Did anybody happen to catch any of the game? It really was exciting (except for, from an "objective" perspective, the second period, which was kind of "eh"). |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Apr 12th, 2004, 7:02pm on 04/12/04 at 10:55:32, StegRock wrote:
Yes, congrats to DU. I watched some of the game. I must admit I thought it was kind of bogus that they waived off the Maine goal early in the game. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 12th, 2004, 7:21pm Thanks, DD! [smiley=bow.gif] And, yes, I agree with you about the waived-off goal. I guess that's the rule. But, whatever, we DEFINITELY got lucky on that one. That player surely had absolutely NO effect on the play. It was just bad timing, that ended up being our good fortune. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 14th, 2004, 6:27pm [smiley=soapboxer.gif] If we bail out of Iraq too quickly or too early, we WILL create the same environment out of which bin-Laden was born, the one that existed in Afganistan after we helped defeat the Soviet invasion and then left them hangin'. Whereas, we stuck it out in Korea and, by the way, took EXPONENTIALLY MORE casualties than we have in Iraq, and South Korea has really done nothing but benefit ever since. We can't be led off-track by the small-mindedness and inability to delay gratification of certain Iraqis and lose sight of the bigger picture when it comes to this kind of stuff. Listen, I too would love to see a world completely free of war, but I understand that ain't happenin' in my lifetime, not even close. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Apr 14th, 2004, 7:54pm on 04/14/04 at 18:27:23, StegRock wrote:
Ah...but we did not have the same 4th estate that we do now. The press gives us instant access now whereas in Korea they did not. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 14th, 2004, 8:07pm I hear ya, DD! [smiley=bullseye.gif] It doesn't change the reality that Korea has benefited greatly from our and their own sacrifices and efforts for a free democratic society, which did not happen overnight, and eventually to become one of the strongest economies in Asia. Instead, we get a full dose of these whiny, unproductive religious zealots from backwards lands. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 18th, 2004, 7:41pm Random thoughts... The Iraqi mayor-to-be of Baghdad proclaims that he looks forward to, and I quote (the translation), "re-establishing Iraq as the 'Mother of the world'!" [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] Talk about putting the carriage before the horse, TO PUT IT MILDLY... and VERY SUCCINCTLY! :-X Oh, brother! ::) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 20th, 2004, 2:59pm Well, fellas, I am headin' out to D.C., catchin' up with my future. I am still awaiting word from two schools, but Catholic University is lookin' more and more like where I'll end up. Anyway, over the next four or so days, my presence around here will be spotty like panties on the pill. [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] So,... ... DD, if you happen to be reading this, I am leaving right now. As you can see, I am getting a bit of a late start. See you soon! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 22nd, 2004, 12:29am Guys, regarding Steggie's "life", which needs to get untracked for all concerned,... EVERYTHING went ABSOLUTELY swimmingly and then some today at CUA [smiley=priest.gif] . Ask DD! He can corroborate my "JOY!" I'm definitely "feelin' it"! [smiley=yes.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 25th, 2004, 7:18pm Well, just a very short update on Steggie's grad school sitch and the visit to Catholic U. All of these schools have different set-ups regarding how their M.A. and/or Ph.D. programs are administered. I finally figured out "how" I was accepted at CUA. They admit students, who enter only with a Bachelor's degree like me, at one of three levels, into:
I found out that I was admitted at the second level above (and my name has moved up the waiting list for funding). [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] This is GREAT news as, given my "advanced" age, to not have to "officially" finish up a "full" Master's program is way preferable. That would just add years onto the process. (For those of you that remember, just to be clear, doing the programs separately was a reality I was willing to accept with Hawaii, where the degrees must be done separately which makes it take much longer even though they do not require a Master's thesis as such, though, because of the eastern-philosophy factor.) Actually, though, I stepped in some REALLY lucky [smiley=shamrock.gif] poo regarding need-based funding. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 29th, 2004, 12:07am Food for thought... A society which comes to think that it is (better than) God, that it is the "highest power", will fall like the Roman empire. Having a belief, on the societal level at least, that there is something "greater" than "us" keeps a society humble and "reason-able". My wife, a very wise young lady, says, and I have adopted this saying in my philosophy, or should I say points out, that rules, laws, systems, etc., were originally created (by man) to achieve certain "goods" (fairly obvious point, right?), but when the rules, laws, systems, etc., themselves become the ultimate ends (and (not just the) means, which is all they were originally intended to be) and defending them turns into the ultimate "good", that is a big fundamental (and systemic) problem. In our increasingly secularizing American society, system trumps God and the "good" all the time. We see this incessantly in our legal system, for example. It's not about getting the bad guy or getting at the truth, or even justice for that matter; it's that the "system is upheld", in pretty much those exact words. WOW, huh? And, seeing the news media in the middle east and liberals in modern western society use our "system" against us as a fulcrum of leverage just does not play out well, especially in "light" of the "dark" reasoning presented above. :-/ Have a good day! [smiley=sunny.gif] ... ;) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Apr 30th, 2004, 8:25pm My family has had quite a rough day today, especially in light of our and my specific personal circumstances, i.e. in my case the "tenuous" transition period I have been/will be going through, which I have shared with you all. I'll leave it at that. What specifically happened, I am not at liberty to share, but it stinks and the timing is pretty darn rotten (and unbelievable). Anyway,... Thought on the day... Inspired to write this by a preview for the Ted Koppel Nightline show tonight that has been cancelled by some ABC affiliates,... Have you ever noticed that light always points directly at you? This is not an abstruse observation. It is a simple, but, nevertheless, deep realization. If you are wondering what I am talking about, the next time you are at the beach and on the east coast the sun is rising or on the west coast the sun is setting, look at where the sunlight travels on the water's meniscus. It gives you pause about "perspective". We all see the light in exactly the same way, but never from the same perspective. ... In the news, very shortly put, we have these 17 misbehaving soldiers that very inappropriately screwed around with (tortured... [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] ) their Iraqi captives. Don't you get a kick out of how indignant the middle east gets because a little crumb fell "their way" (in many senses, think it through)? How about they focus on their loaf of bread and help make the world a better place by "getting over it" while we take care of our crumbs? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on May 3rd, 2004, 12:55am Never quite thought of it this way... A family almost wiped out in a 14-month period. In June of '87, a mother of one son gets rushed into the ER from her job and undergoes emergency kidney surgery, moment's away from dying from an about-to-burst mass; a week later undergoes surgery to remove the kidney. One month in the hospital; five months out of work. December of '87, just soon after the mother is able to return to work, the father dies of a massive heart attack on the job. August of '88, son survives severe head-on automobile accident into a telephone pole, after which he underwent four hours of surgery to the left side of his face, mainly his left eye and, most of all, eyelid. It was yucky... ...and that is my family I'm talking about. I had thought of it from the angle that I was very close to becoming an orphan in '87, but I had never thought of it this way, that we were almost wiped out one-by-one over this 14-month period, until the way my mother and I conversed about it today. WOW... that's all! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by PrimeTime on May 3rd, 2004, 12:45pm Wow Steg, that was certainly a very difficult period for you and your family. It makes me realize how small most of my problems are (and were) in relation to yours. I'm glad you and your mother were able to pull through. You are certainly due for some good luck. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on May 5th, 2004, 8:06pm First off, thanks, Primer, for taking note of the story and commenting... Now, for something I gotta get off my chest... Movie director Michael Moore is the BIGGEST F'N A-HOLE in the biz, show biz, which means he's a REALLY HUGE SMELLY POOP PIT! Can't people see right through him and his blatant modus operandi!?!? He can't even tell simple truths, at least without muddying the waters, no less capture bigger pictures. Actually, muddying the waters is ALL these (conspiracy-driven) liberals, who play it like they know it all, really succeed at doing. Anyway, Peter Jennings had him on tonight regarding Walt Disney's canceling the Mirimax, which Disney owns, release of his admittedly, very overtly anti-Bush film late this summer. Immediately, as a "reason-able" person, I think to myself, mmph, makes sense. You don't want to put out a politically-driven movie that is very for or against either candidate so close to the election. Very logical! Of course, Moore, an imbecilic a-hole, claims ONLY that, or at least all he says is that Disney told him that they did not want it distributed because of the backlash they may suffer at the hands of Florida governor, Jeb Bush, George Bush's brother. [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] Give me a fuckin' break! I mean sure that's possible, but the other reason is the driving force and overriding reason in every way, logically speaking; the reason as he states it is, at best, only part of the story, tendentiously presented. In any event, as if Disney would admit it that way, anyway! ::) I'm mean... Who believes this character? Can't you see that his contentions, like this one, are just rabble-rousings, figments of his imagination and/or outright lies, at least it can be said, to a greater degree than that of which he is critical, i.e., my assertion regarding his claim is surely much more obviously and substantively legitimate than the tangly webs he "spins" regarding political realities to which he is NOT privy. Now, if Moore can lie about and spin such a simple thing as this, what does that say about his movies? In the least, a wary eye must be turned toward them! On a related side note, I don't know how the Republican Party withstands it all. I can't even remember the last time a movie, TV or big-screen, portraying a Republican (President) in a positive light was made. In today's "popular" American culture, the Republican Party is really the underdog. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on May 6th, 2004, 8:55am on 05/05/04 at 20:06:56, StegRock wrote:
I've noted, on more than a few occasions, how it seems like it is suddenly trendy to be a liberal. People seem unable to make their own decisions about issues, so they align themselves with one party or the other. Since the media goes out of its way to portray Bush as a bumbling idiot - some of which, admittedly, he brings on himself, it makes it easier for the ill-informed to buy into what seems to be the "popular" viewpoint. I'm hoping that this is all it is, a fad. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on May 6th, 2004, 6:12pm Well, they're making a re-make of the Manchurian Candidate. Now, if they had just cast Babs (Barbra Streisand) as the evil mother..... But they'll probably make the doppleganger a Republican. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on May 8th, 2004, 8:26pm Our media's incessant reporting on and, in effect, constant reminding us AND THE WORLD of the very poor judgment a handful of our soldiers used in committing those crimes against the Iraqi prisoners is really hurting our cause, not just in the limited sense, but in the bigger sense as well. THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, I did disagree with something both Bush and Rumsfeld maintained, not necessarily what you or the liberal media would expect though. I understand that they "have to" (just like they "had to" exert due scrutiny in deciding when these failures should be brought to light) mince words because of the politics involved. That said, it just gets us farther away from the deeper truth of the matter. They both pointed out how the actions of these few were an aberration from American society in general. They both said that that is NOT how Americans really are. I beg to disagree. And, I must (again) admit that it is largely attributable to my experiences vis-a-vis my life in Korea. Let's call a spade a spade... The behavior of those soldiers was not just aberrational; it was downright aberrant... abhorent! And, it is more indicative of the ills of American society than we may want to admit to. Instead of just bashing Bush and Rumsfeld, I would like to see our "liberal" media put the "bigger picture" more under the microscope (they don't necessarily want to "deal with" that "reality" because it might just suggest that our abuse of our rights and freedoms might just be the cause of such aberrance). We Americans exist in an addictive rather than refective society, in which immediate gratification trumps patience. Moreover, our specific set of addictions is destroying our core: most notably, we are addicted to sex, fast money, violence, (illegal) drugs and (prescription) medication, which are all along the lines of "immediate gratification". We are addicted to "the high" and "the rush", a term commonplace among thrill-seeking Americans, who have had it well and do not have a clue as to the basics and essentials of human life and nor do they have (an inbred) respect for life. ... Well, have a good day! [smiley=sunny.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by bgsgfan on May 10th, 2004, 11:28am What a great morning. I woke up throwing up. Then, ok, 9 months ago we bought a mobile home for $1650. 150 down and 10 payments of 150. We offer to pay the final payment early this morning and the asshole refuses it. Asks if we have insurance. We have put about another $1500 into the place, not to mention all the time. When we bought the place, roaches covered the floors, walls and ceiling. The toilets, baths, and sinks had rotted through the floors. The toilets were also bubbling with maggots. The trailer is big though, and sound, so we got it. This was a really bad move for him. He is lucky I am such a nice guy, or he would already be dead in a ditch. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on May 10th, 2004, 3:46pm Well, let's get it ALL out and over with today! Just to add to today's miseries (although I have known about this for a couple days now AND, actually, I am having a great day today AND, as I have stated a number of times, I really don't think it mattered anymore),... Their loss... Catholic U.'s gain! Anyway, enough with the "thumbs down"! Time for the... [smiley=flipoffangrily.gif] ! Whatever school got me (and the U. of Hawaii had me in the bag) is going to get a person who will never complain about his education (as long as it was fairly/reasonably well done, which it definitely will be at CUA) and will get a zealous chauvinist when it comes to promoting that school and school pride and spirit (like I am for the U. of Denver)! So, I wound up batting .250. Whatever, [smiley=shrug.gif] I am looking forward to signing on the dotted line and starting life down in D.C. come August. Go Cardinals (although their sports program is pretty much a non-factor)!!! [smiley=chicken.gif] ... :-X |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on May 10th, 2004, 5:59pm The Universe has a plan, guys. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on May 10th, 2004, 6:19pm Well, Call, I don't know if that's quite the way I look at it. ... I have plans, a plan, and that in the universe which avails itself to me will be a part of it; that which doesn't won't and will be adjusted to accordingly if need be. [smiley=shrug.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by bgsgfan on May 10th, 2004, 6:40pm on 05/10/04 at 18:19:13, StegRock wrote:
Excellently put. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on May 19th, 2004, 1:35pm Fellas, I went to Steg's English Master site via the link below and signed on to help increase Steve's memebers for his site. It literally took 2 seconds. For all he's done with the site and for us, maybe we can all try and log in to help him out. Thanks. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] http://www.internetstitute.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on May 19th, 2004, 1:38pm on 05/19/04 at 13:35:12, The Juror wrote:
Yep, it was quick, easy, and painless. I work in some educational circles and have been promoting the site to people who deal with ESL for a living. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Mossaholic on May 19th, 2004, 6:27pm anyone else excited about the Kings vs Wolves game tonight? I'm not a huge basketball fan but I'm very excited [smiley=dancin.gif] about tonights game for some reason. GO KINGS [smiley=woohoo.gif] [smiley=woohoo.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on May 19th, 2004, 8:08pm Yes, Mossman, it should be a fantastic game. I can't say I am that excited about it, though. I'm not that big of a basketball fan, first off, but secondly, the Lakers, who I can't stand, but..., make this series seem a bit consolationish, and that "but" there refers to the fact that I kind of wouldn't mind seeing the Lakers win it all this year because of Karl Malone and Gary Payton. But, in any event, I agree with your allegiance here. Go Kings! [smiley=king.gif] ... on 05/19/04 at 13:35:12, The Juror wrote:
on 05/19/04 at 13:38:10, Philly wrote:
[smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=bow.gif] Do remember, though, that these services are NOT just for EFL/ESL students and NOT just for Koreans. The site is not just an EFL/ESL site, that is why I tone down the usual EFL/ESL rhetoric that you find at other sites on my site, and besides its being available in English, its availability in Korean was just a matter of (obvious) circumstance. Just to name a few particular services that are for a broader audience: as was inquired about at the forum, the "Proofreading Service"; to a lesser degree, the "Q & A Service"; in the rare occasion that such is needed, the "Translation Service" for those needing English-Korean-Russian translation, and also the obviously not for EFL/ESL students "On-line Korean Class", which caters to a specific group, but a fairly big one. In fact, most of my clients heretofore are NOT Korean and NOT EFL/ESL students. The vast majority of my clients are native English-speaking American high school and college students and business professionals. ... Moving right along, I watched the end of (I'm feeling a bit under the weather today and had been taking a nap) World News Tonight and I gotta get a couple things off my chest and it won't necessitate the use of too many words, unbelievably: I am f'n sick and tired of... [smiley=soapboxer.gif] ...(our tacitly-accepted system of) insurance companies gambling on people's lives and misfortunes. ...our incessant beating up of ourselves over 9/11... bereaved father says that al-Qaeda "may be as bad as" Bush and Rumsfeld... [smiley=no.gif] and now criticism of Giuliani... [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] Have we NO heroes in America?!?! ... Don't people understand... THEY [smiley=sultan.gif] [smiley=sultan.gif] LOVE IT when we fight OVER THEM! They hate our political system and actually see our fighting amongst each other as weakness and would love to divide and conquer us by way of our own "weak politics", just like they flew our own jets into our shit. Enough's enough, folks. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know who is to blame for 9/11... hate-filled, death-loving, Muslim-extremist Arabs, namely those associated with the scumbag group, al-Qaeda, AND NO ONE ELSE! Though there were holes in the system, which need fixing, and people who were "passively" or "secondarily" responsible in their failure to "get the job done", LET'S NOT FORGET WHO WAS "ACTIVELY" AND "DIRECTLY" RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT DAY OF "TERROR" and cease the incessant and POLITICIZED beating up of ourselves. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on May 20th, 2004, 5:23pm Got a few good stories to share with you all today... First off, some of you, particularly in the New Jersey, New York, eastern Pennsylvania areas, may have heard about the oldest-ever graduate from Monmouth University, Hortense West. She is surely among the oldest to graduate college of all time. The story has been in the news; it was covered by NBC news New York last night on the 11:00 broadcast. Well, anyway, we, especially my mom, know her very well. She attends the Church of the Holy Spirit in Asbury Park (a Catholic church, even though that name is not necessarily Catholic-church sounding and Asbury, actually, is more known for its other kinds of churches) where my mom (and I) has (have) been parishioners for over 20 years now (it's where Gino and I just had our stateside wedding/renewal of vows in December). She has sat right next to my mom (and me when I've been in town and gone, which, granted, is rare) in the front row at 8:00 a.m. mass every Sunday for a number of years now. Her story is very touching, heartwarming and inspiring and definitely worth sharing. She went and got her education for all the right reasons that the rest of us "yuppy-minded", self-absorbedly vocationally-concerned don't "get". Of course, she was "situated" to do so, but that doesn't mean there isn't a lesson to some degree there for us all. In the least, hers is an inspirational story of perseverance. Here are some links: (Her story) http://www.monmouth.edu/news/news_story.asp?iNewsID=2150&strBack=%2Fabout%2Fnews%2Fnews_archive.asp; (Her picture) http://www.app.com/app/story/0,21625,967236,00.html. ... Next,... HOW 'BOUT THEM NATIONAL CHAMPION DU PIONEERS INVADIN' THE WHITE HOUSE? GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/du/article/0,1299,DRMN_16076_2900274,00.html (you know, I honestly chose the colors over at theEnglishMaster.com (http://www.theenglishmaster.com) site in a rather willynilly manner, often thinking it was a bit of an odd choice for a color scheme; well, after you see this page, I think you'll see quite clearly what was subconsciously going on in my head, even more so when compared with the NEW "Let's Talk English (http://www.internetstitute.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi)" forums over there... very interesting); http://www.thejournalnews.com/newsroom/052004/c0320whitehouseco.html; http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~87~2159791,00.html; http://denverpioneers.collegesports.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/051904aaa.html (you'll notice the color-scheme thing a bit here as well); Through all this, I also came to learn that my alma mater there has two people on Bush's cabinet (UConn and Minnesota boast squat [smiley=cantcatch.gif] ... ;) ): http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=170-05192004; One of those two is Condoleeza Rice, who I kind of remember got her Ph.D. from DU, but did not know she had also done her undergraduate at DU... starting at age 15 [smiley=ohshit.gif] (she received her Master's from Notre Dame): http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_681500364/Condoleezza_Rice.html. From DU to a [smiley=priest.gif] school... and she's done pretty well for herself... [smiley=hmmmm.gif] Scholastically, sounds just a little bit like someone else 'round these here parts... [smiley=whistle.gif] ... Just putting together a collection of those straws I've been reaching for (for the easily put off). ;D |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on May 20th, 2004, 5:33pm Nice story Steg. I am glad you shared it. [smiley=RIF.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on May 28th, 2004, 6:34pm I recently read a quote of Van Gough's where he said he was always doing things he didn't know how to do, because he was learning how to do them. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on May 31st, 2004, 11:12am Hey, everybody, do remember our national moment of remembrance at 3:00 this afternoon (EST, I guess)! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 1st, 2004, 9:19pm Guys, a window into the scary "world" to which I have been privy... I would love to post this over at the "Let's Talk English @ Internetstitute.com" (theEnglishMaster.com) forums, but I unfortunately cannot, given the "politics" of it in both senses: the "actual" politics and the "politics" involved in getting a start-up venture off the ground. So, since we are "beyond that" here, I want to... need to share this with you all. The following is an excerpt from an e-mail I received from a member over at the "Let's Talk English" forum with whom I have had some (nice) exchange by e-mail. This person is a soon-to-be EFL instructor overseas, who just finished his/her Master's in TESL: "...Tomorrow I am heading to Washington, DC for the MoveOn.org conference -- should give me some good fodder for my ESL classes! But you asked where I will teach -- I just heard from the State dept. English Language Fellowship program, and they are sending me to Tulza, Bosnia in September for 10 months..." I don't know how to exactly react: ::) or [smiley=no.gif] or :-/ or [smiley=waitinforu.gif] or [smiley=soapboxer.gif] or :-X or [smiley=flipoffangrily.gif] or [smiley=priest.gif] or [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] or [smiley=patriot.gif] or [smiley=violin.gif] or :'( or [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] or [smiley=scream.gif] or [smiley=scared.gif] ??? These are the kind of people we are sending abroad, and he/she works for/is funded by the U.S. government! [smiley=no.gif] Regarding the section I put in bold in particular, uhhhh, clue... you are there to teach English! And, no, contrary to (somewhat) popular opinion (in the EFL/ESL world of "education", loosely speaking ;) ), if you really know your English, the language in and of itself is a "big enough topic" to teach; there is no actual need for "diversions",... read "agendas". Just do your job and teach English!!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Jun 1st, 2004, 10:00pm That was something I found interesting when I had the opportunity to see the texts that a well-known English Language instructional program was using. I was very surprised to see the number of "controversial" topics -- gun control, drug use, criminal justice, etc. When I asked about it, I was told that it really helped to foster more discussion than some of the boring topics that had been used in the past. While I guess this is probably true, I'm not sure it is the best method to promote the speaking of the English language. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jun 2nd, 2004, 6:22pm When I was a little kid, we were in a class where the teacher was teaching us what propaganda was. One little girl raised her hand and said that it was like when people were learning something and there was a message in there. This was during the cold war, and her example was that it was like when people in the Soviet Union were learning to read, and the words were something like "Red China is nice." From the mouths of babes.... |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Mossaholic on Jun 4th, 2004, 11:04pm on 06/01/04 at 21:19:46, StegRock wrote:
I agree Steggie just teach English. Unfortunately it does not suprise me that someone would do this. As a college student sometimes I cannot believe how far off the topic a teacher will go to get in a political comment. It gets on my nerves. Making comments like that at a U.S. university is annoying but doing it in that situation is just wrong. Some people just do not know the appropriate time for politics. In my neck of the woods (which is actually a conservative area of California) a school district trustee decided to bash Bush during a local high school graduation. The trustee during his speech told graduating students who had voluntered for military service "I wish you a safe and successful tour of duty as you search for the so-called weapons of mass destruction and the liberation of Iraq and other countries that President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfield decide to point to next as our enemies." The trustee was booed and removed from following graduations. I don't think he is going to be reelected. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 5th, 2004, 6:07pm (Mossman, thanks for commenting! I am going to revisit that topic down the line...) Right now, for those following the big news stories today in America, I want to tie them together in a way the mass media has yet to (and probably will not unless they read this ;) )... The late Ronald Reagan was a big horse man,... maybe not horse racing, but something just tells me that his spirit is going to be "embodied" by Smarty Jones today. Both had to overcome great odds and a lot of naysaying to fulfill their respective destinies and achieve greatness! Go, Smarty, against the odds (not the ones at the track today, though)! And, thank you, Mr. Reagan, for serving us with strength and the unwavering and unflappable conviction of a real man! [smiley=patriot.gif] ... [smiley=bow.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 5th, 2004, 11:34pm I have mixed feelings about Reagan dying. I am sad he died. He was in office my formidable years of my life. His accomplishments during his presidency is amazing. He did not take shit from anybody. (to bomb Libya he just flew around the fucking French!) The funeral is going to be very impressive, which is what he deserves. However, I am also glad he died. Having known people suffering with alziemers, it is a blessing he has passed. Having the disease for 10 years, by the end he would have most likely been a disaster. Sucks....... Many government employees are happy today. They get a paid day off. DC is going to be a mess on Friday. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 6th, 2004, 12:55am I'm going to sign off today with a simple... Win one for the Gipper! [smiley=footballsmiley.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 6th, 2004, 7:23pm IRONY... These days, with all this wasted time on and misplaced concern about perceived manifestations of the lack of (the perceived "requisite") separation of "church" and "state" (or is it really supposed to be, in the old... Renaissance sense, (big-"C") "Church", which used to be, in fact, a real, efficacious political authority, and "State"?), which is really about history (historical acknowledgement), not religion (religious evangelism),... ...all the crucifixes at the beach of Normandy are, well, VERY poignant! Can't separate "church" and "state" there, huh? ... Remember this the next time you (even start to) think there is any credence to the arguments of the ACLU or the attention-seeker with the beef about the Pledge of Allegiance or the L.A. County seal issue or George Soros or et al. ::) Just remember the petty-mindedness of it all! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 6th, 2004, 8:12pm on 04/20/04 at 14:59:37, StegRock wrote:
Steg-- Your future University is making the news in the DC area. They are currently denying the NAACP to form a chapter at Catholic U. Of course the NAACP is not too happy about this. Catholic's reasoning for the denial is because they already have two organizations that represent the black students. The University also stated they were concerned that the NAACP participates in non-Catholic oriented demonstrations such as abortion rights. I will keep you informed. http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=25&sid=210251 |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 8th, 2004, 9:26pm on 06/06/04 at 19:23:13, StegRock wrote:
... Never doubt the liberal bias of our mainstream media... They are very insidious about it... Tonight Peter Jennings says that today was a VERY BAD day in Iraq... 26 Iraqis died and 2 U.S. soldiers. Look, I don't "welcome" death of any kind, BUT let's get some perspective here! What would Jennings have said after a rather average day in "the just war", World War II, or "the forgotten war", Korea, of losing hundreds, even thousands, of our boys? I mean there was actually the release of a couple captives today, and surely a number of other "quiet" successes. Why not, at least, just "report the fact" that 26 Iraqis died and 2 U.S. soldiers without the (peanut-gallery) editorial? If you nitpick and argue about the specifics and details, unless you are REALLY on top of your game, it is not very clear and obvious,... and that's exactly what makes it SO DEVISIVE and DANGEROUS! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 11th, 2004, 11:09pm Bye, Ron! [smiley=wave.gif] Thanks! [smiley=bow.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jun 12th, 2004, 7:38pm Just a good email I got - Just a little fun... "Subject: Things Bush would like to say WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO TURN ON THE TV AND HEAR GEORGE W. BUSH GIVE THE FOLLOWING SPEECH? My Fellow Americans: As you all know, the defeat of Iraq regime has been completed. Since Congress does not want to spend any more money on this war, our mission in Iraq is complete. This morning I gave the order for a complete removal of all American forces from Iraq. This action will be complete within 30 days. It is now time to begin the reckoning. Before me, I have two lists. One list contains the names of countries which have stood by our side during the Iraq conflict. This list is short. The United Kingdom, Italy, Bulgaria, Australia, Poland and Japan are some of the countries listed there. The other list contains everyone not on the first list. Most of the worlds nations are on that list. My press secretary will be distributing copies of both lists later this evening. Let me start by saying that effective immediately, foreign aid to those nations on List 2 ceases immediately and indefinitely. The money saved during the first year alone will pretty much pay for the costs of the Iraqi war. The American people are no longer going to pour money into third world Hell-holes and watch those government leaders grow fat on corruption. Need help with a famine? Wrestling with an epidemic? Call France. In the future, together with Congress, I will work to redirect this money toward solving the vexing social problems we still have at home. On that note, a word to terrorist organizations. Screw with us and we will hunt you down and eliminate you and all your friends from the face of the earth. Thirsting for a gutsy country to terrorize? Try France, or maybe China. To Israel and the Palestinian Authority. Yo, boys. Work out a peace deal now. Just note that Camp David is closed. Maybe all of you can go to Russia for negotiations. They have some great palaces there. Big tables, too. I am ordering the immediate severing of diplomatic relations with France, Germany, and Russia. Thanks for all your help, comrades. We are retiring from NATO as well. Bon chance, mes amis. I have instructed the Mayor of New York City to begin towing the many UN diplomatic vehicles located in Manhattan with more than two unpaid parking tickets to sites where those vehicles will be stripped, shredded and crushed. I don't care about whatever treaty pertains to this. You creeps have tens of thousands of unpaid tickets. Pay those tickets tomorrow or watch your precious Benzes, Beamers, and limos be turned over to some of the finest chop shops in the world. I love New York. A special note to our neighbors. Canada is on List 2. Since we are likely to be seeing a lot more of each other, you folks might want to try not pissing us off for a change. Mexico is also on List 2. President Fox and his entire corrupt government really need an attitude adjustment. I will have a couple extra tank and infantry divisions sitting around. Guess where I am gonna put em? Yep, border security. So start doing something with your oil. Oh, by the way, the United States is abrogating the NAFTA treaty --- starting now. We are tired of the one-way highway. It is time for America to focus on its own welfare and its own citizens. Some will accuse us of isolationism. I answer them be saying, "darn tootin." Nearly a century of trying to help folks live a decent life around the world has only earned us the undying enmity of just about everyone on the planet. It is time to eliminate hunger in America. It is time to eliminate homelessness in America. It is time to eliminate World Cup Soccer from America. To the nations on List 1, a final thought. Thanks guys. We owe you and we won't forget. To the nations on List 2, a final thought. Drop dead. God bless America. Thank you and good night. If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier." |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 14th, 2004, 2:01am Callie,... from wherever, that was "ripped" for my pleasure! (And, I'm a poet... [smiley=jammaster.gif] ) ... [smiley=soapboxer.gif] So, earlier today, I watched a good bit of the "Puerto Rican Day" parade. With all due respect to any of my fellow Puerto Rican Gridironers here, but I waited for some show of talent or history; all I got was a bunch of pretentious pomp (...without circumstance). I saw no soldiers in uniform or marching bands or singers or even good dancers or impressive floats. Yea, I saw some chicks shakin' some t-n-a and they talked about "salsa" as if... (although I didn't actually hear any salsa tunes), but in large, I just saw a bunch of chauvinists waving flags meandering apparently aimlessly down the road yelling at the TV cameras. ... I would have more respect if they would just become our 51st state and start really pulling their weight. (There goes that lyrical genius again. [smiley=jammaster.gif] ) ... On a different [smiley=note.gif] ,... go baby-boomers! Could I get another Viagra, Cialis or Levitra commercial? I mean there just aren't enough! ... Could more (NOT ALL, I KNOW) 45-to-65-year-old adults in our country be more boldly selfish, and, well,... childish or should I say "teenagerish"... right out in public? [smiley=nono.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Jun 15th, 2004, 7:27am Anybody else happy the Lakers are down 3-1 to the Pistons, the team that had no chance of winning? (A team that should have already won if not for one small coaching mistake by Larry Brown? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Jun 15th, 2004, 9:00am on 06/15/04 at 07:27:33, BarnabyWilde wrote:
As a Sixers fan, I'm kinda torn. I grew up hating the Lakers and the Celtics. They, along with the Sixers, were the really good teams of the early 80s. I still can't cheer for the Lakers. I mean, I like Shaq, but Kobe is impossible to root for. And Gary Payton and Karl Malone, while they were once guys to cheer, are nothing more than a couple carpetbaggers at this point in their careers. As for the Pistons, I don't want to see Larry Brown win. Not after he destroyed the Sixers franchise for the immediate future and then left to go to the team that had just knocked them out of the play-offs. I know that there was no conspiracy, but it all happened too quickly and under unusual circumstances. That being said, I love the Pistons players. Ben Wallace is what basketball should be all about. The guy plays his heart out every night and is a genuinely good guy. Rasheed, for all of his trouble with the officials, is one of the best team-players in the league. Chauncey Billups and Rip Hamilton are hard to dislike too. So, I want to see the Piston players win, despite Larry Brown. [smiley=goodrevil.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 16th, 2004, 1:03pm If anybody has any concluding thoughts about the NBA or NHL playoffs, there was discussion on that by our members on a thread on another board ("the 'Speakeasy'") at another forum (peripherally part of the family here) located at: http://www.internetstitute.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=4;action=display;num=1085535015. If you do have any final thoughts or anything to say, please keep it over there. That forum, though of a TOTALLY different genre, is structured just like this one, so it is a snap to navigate and register at. Thank you! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 16th, 2004, 1:52pm Well, the soap opera [smiley=touching.gif] that was Steggie's grad school applications process, as of about 30 minutes ago, is, alas, finally "officially" over... I am now "officially" a Catholic University Cardinal! [smiley=priest.gif] ... [smiley=chicken.gif] I phoned the Dean of the School of Philosophy at Catholic U. to tell him that I have decided to enroll in their Ph.D.-track program to which I was accepted. It was a wonderful conversation, especially in light of the "fight" this turned out to be. I can start registering on-line at any time, probably later this afternoon/evening. :) Also of note, after my visit to CUA back in April, I had made mention of some good [smiley=shammy.gif] doody [smiley=shamrock.gif] regarding financial matters that I fell in. As that too has been officially approved now, I feel that I can now share it with you all (without giving all the specifics, though); it is the next best thing I could have hoped for after a scholarship, which remains pending, but is unlikely. You see... work-study TYPICALLY comes in two basic forms: part-time, where you work n hours and make x dollars, and full-time, where you work 2n + a half an hour hours and make 2x dollars. BUT, there are exceptions. Generally speaking, though, part-time work-study is MUCH more prevalent than full-time work-study, which is REALLY what I need, though. WELL, in a fortunate turn of events, where I simply was leaving the School of Philosophy building, in which is also housed the Office of Financial Aid and the Provost's Office, of which I make mention because they come into play here, the second and last afternoon of my being there and thought that I should quickly go back in and give a final good-bye to the financial aid officer who had been so GENUINELY CARING (especially vis-a-vis the other experiences I had had) and helpful to me the day before. I end up, almost literally, running into who turned out to be the Director of the Office of Financial Aid... In VERY short, the next thing I know I am sitting in her office explaining away my tenuous financial circumstances and she is then on the phone and whisking me away to the Provost's Office for an informal interview for a position she happens to know will be vacant come fall semester. Well, I got the position!!! And, it is one of these "exceptional" cases: first of all, it is full-time, which, as I explained above, is the rarer of the two forms, but the kind I NEEDED, and, MOREOVER, it is one in which I will work (as per the equations above) 2n + a half an hour hours, BUT EARN 3x dollars. That's just found [smiley=money.gif] ... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] For those of you that have come to know my "situation", THAT IS HUGE!!! Besides the money, it's on campus, moreover, right in the same building that most of my Philosophy classes will be in, which means MUCH less running around (off-campus), which I was anticipating, and it's work-"study", which means it will be a bit on the fluffy side (as opposed to a "real" part-time job), but yet I will be in one of the main administrative offices of the school and getting well-connected. Though I can't just go to school, all of that translates into my better being able to focus on my studies, which ultimately, bottom line is why I am there. Well, enough of the prideful joy! (I am just bursting at the seams with joy [smiley=havinablast.gif] and, again, as many of you know, given my circumstances, I really don't have anyone to share it with face-to-face right now besides mom. Look at it as an opportunity to "really" get to know "the 'real' person" running things around here in a way that you NEVER will at another site.) :) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by kidcrash on Jun 16th, 2004, 2:05pm Thats great news steg,I am truly thrilled for you man. ;D |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Jun 16th, 2004, 2:12pm on 06/16/04 at 13:52:25, StegRock wrote:
That's great news Steg! All your ducks [smiley=chicken.gif] are lining up. Do you have a residence yet? If so, is it on-campus housing? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on Jun 16th, 2004, 2:13pm Good Job Steve. Now all you need is a couple of willing undergrads to fulfill your needs!! [smiley=gettinridden.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jun 16th, 2004, 6:04pm CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [smiley=guitar.gif] [smiley=guitar.gif] [smiley=broncofan.gif] [smiley=guitar.gif] [smiley=guitar.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by sameoldsameold on Jun 16th, 2004, 6:42pm congrats and im SO GLAD AND HAPPY AND GLEEFUL THAT the lakers went to HELL. That is what malone and payton get for selling out. They all deserved and i so happy for detroit cause they worked their butts off for that championship. It is a great day in basketball whenever i see the lakers getting their butt wuped on. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 17th, 2004, 3:56pm Thanks for the kind words, kc, Phil, Call, TJ, soso (except for the basketball commentary "here", soso [smiley=nownow.gif] ... ;) )! [smiley=bow.gif] In response to your questions, Phil, given EVERYTHING on my plate right now, I have a little time to deal with the issue of housing. I have done some homework on it, but the final decisions on that will come more toward the end of July/August. I can tell yous this much... No, it will definitely NOT be on-campus: 1) it's cheaper off-campus; 2) all of their housing for married couples is... was already spoken for and that was back in April when I visited. Now, as to how far off-campus? That REALLY varies and, actually, it doesn't really, for me personally, have anything to do with the inner-city location of the school. My first choice is to live right around the school within short walking distance. If not, though, I would prefer to live quite a bit away up toward Silver Spring or perhaps farther up [smiley=ohshit.gif] and try to cut into that occasional drive up to mom on the Jersey shore. :) ... [smiley=sunny.gif] And, I like commuting, actually, especially by subway,... can get A LOT of reading done. [smiley=RIF.gif] In response to your comment, TJ,... [smiley=titflash.gif] [smiley=hooters.gif] [smiley=pimpin.gif] [smiley=boobies.gif] ... ... [smiley=surfing.gif] ... [smiley=sailin.gif] (the man in the boat ;) ) ... [smiley=woohoo.gif] (and, well, I got the go ahead, so to speak... loooooong explanation,... BUT a good one,... not for this board, though,... we'll talk)!!! [smiley=lickinmychops.gif] ... [smiley=ohshit.gif] ... [smiley=whistle.gif] ... [smiley=secret.gif] In VERY short,... I have an AWESOME wife (who you guys will be seeing soon, sort of)! [smiley=shammy.gif] ... [smiley=yes.gif] ... [smiley=shamrock.gif] ... [smiley=yinandyang.gif] ... [smiley=bow.gif] ... SHWING!!! [smiley=dick.jpg] (You had to know I wasn't gonna leave my "boys" out of, or should I say was gonna leave my "boys" out for, this smiley party!) ;D (That's a BIG grin!) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 18th, 2004, 5:45pm This'll be nice and fuckin' PITHY... Those scumbags executed that guy Paul Johnson... I say we give these people who want to negotiate with these idiots what they want... and send them to go "negotiate". |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 18th, 2004, 7:09pm on 06/18/04 at 17:45:34, StegRock wrote:
OK, I agree that what they did is a bunch of bullshit. Killing innocent people is frigging ridiculous. However, I can;t believe that Americans are surprised this is happening. The terrorists are pissed. And, look at all the media attention they are getting. Hell, people are leaving Saudi Arabia in droves.Their methods are working. We should find these guys and fuck them up. The problem is we can't find 'em. However....... on a seperate, but related subject: I will say America is not innocent in all this. 1- Prisoner abuse scandal(with dead prisoners) 2- America not following Geneva convention. 3- America hiding "prisoner X" from the Red Cross(directly in violation of Geneva convention.) 4- Holding prisoners with no charges. 5- Saying it is ok to torture. What pisses me off is the violation of the Geneva convention. Those rules are in place to "civilize" war. Can we say on one hand that we want all our prisoners treated well, then on the other hand violate the principles? I stick to what I said way back on this thread, "Rumsfield is SCAREY!" |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jun 18th, 2004, 7:50pm It's a 21st Century mentality meeting a Middle Ages, or earlier, mentality. It's extreme differences in cultural norms. We didn't cut off their heads and use it as a terror tool, but we have to deal with people who believe that the most irrational participant in a negotiation will win. And this is the information age. You'll see the worst more than ever before, even though it has always been there. The world is now a global thing. Hordes of killers don't roll in over the hills and slaughter everything in sight anymore. But they used to do that. Now they make "political statements," not just come in and take what they need and want. And the whole world is watching and spinning everything for political use. If the Arab world cannot become a member of the global community, they will suffer more than anyone else. Dirty bomb threats as a certainty or not, they can't win this. And most Arabs just want what we want, cars and refrigerators and a good life for their children. We are not the bad guys here. Neither are most of the people who just want to go and live a good life in that part of the world. As countries go, I think we show up pretty good. We're the guys who throw Hersey Bars to the kids. It's our cultural norm. A few bad apples can never take that away. And if you wonder about the prisoner abuse in Iraq, go and read some Tom Clancey books about what is really going on in the world. That's just fictional tip-of-the-iceberg. What goes on at the top in this world would make us pee our pants. Emperor Ming (In Flash Gordon) said it best when he told the earthlings that if we knew the true nature of the universe we would hide in terror, not fling ourselves out into it. The soldiers are in a war zone where a bunch of people with an archaic mentality are trying to kill them. They might make some mistakes. We have to handle that with our 21st Century mentality and make a good example. But not at the cost of giving this immature mentality any credence. We do it for ourselves. Because that is our self definition, and we hold to it. Let the process fix the problem, and let the world see the progression of our justice and our patience. We always show that too. Ever notice that when we defeat an enemy we build the people back up? Know any other country like that? Nothing is perfect. Churchhill said that democracy is the worst system of government, except for all the others. We try, but in some ways we're like the parents of teenagers in this thing. Give us a chance, and don't buy into the politics of how horrible we are and how much better another group would be. That's just self-serving stuff from the other guys. We have to do something. I think we are the mature, reasonable culture. Even though we're also a bunch of self-indulgent slackers sometimes individually. As a group, we do better than anyone else. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 18th, 2004, 7:59pm The war on terror is redefining war. The old rules are about as applicable as... AND will cause us to get trampled in their wake as if we were to follow... "standing-line" war tactics of the Civil War and before. The prisoner-abuse scandal AND, moreover, the media and political (read, politicized) attention it is getting, moreover, vis-a-vis what media and political ::) coverage they give to their commitment of, or should I say, "to" atrocities is WAY overblown. When did that all come out? Six weeks ago!? And, how many BEHEADINGS have their been since then, not to mention just the run-of-the-mill murders? Causing us to (overly) question ourselves and (overly) scrutinize our actions is EXACTLY what they want. Divert our attention with debate from their VERY OVERT atrocious mindset and behavior as they continue to indoctrinate at the madrassas (sp.) and divide and conquer the U.S. Nostradamus-style. I will say this much, from a "proactive" standpoint (vis-a-vis the politicized "anti-American" point of view)... We need to start developing alternative energy sources and get out from being under their thumb. MONEY is the only thing holding us back from that. SO, as such, we may want to also begin the philosophical reassessment of our economic system, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT PISSES THESE PEOPLE OFF MOST ABOUT AMERICA. ... The lambasting of America abroad is ultimately a VERY complicated issue. BUT, make NO mistakes, A LOT of it just boils down to good, old-fashioned, green-eyed jealousy (by the "geeks" of the "jocks" of the high school; by the "have nots" of the "haves"... I have been down this road before... This can all be summed up quite easily (though, of course, not thoroughly) like this: it's a macrocosm of Columbine, Eric and Dillon = al Qaeda/terrorists, their "ignorant" (in both senses of the word) parents = the "ignorant" leaders in the Muslim faith and Arab/Islamic world, the U.S. = the Jefferson County police, who, sure, made mistakes, BUT were largely trying to "clean up" an ALREADY-festering and -manifested mess, the dumb-ass school counselors and juvenile authorities, worried all about the kid's individual rights = the UN and international community, etc., etc.). ... I mean, okay,... but where is your OUTRAGE for your FELLOW non-military American who just got his NOGGIN LOPPED OFF? And, what about ALL the GOOD our soldiers AND COUNTRY have done? OUR surgeons are putting arms, hands and legs back on people who had them cut off by Saddam. Women, who had NO rights before especially in Afganistan, are now starting to be educated. And, on and on! We are a WELL-intentioned people, at least. We can't go beating ourselves up TO A PULP for our mistakes. ... In closing, regarding this not being about Islam and that it is just a bad imam "here and there", pullllleeeeeze! That argument just folds back in on itself. Historically, religions like the Catholic religion had issues with over-centralization; Islam evidently has issues RIGHT NOW with vast UNDER-centralization, which we must DEMAND attention be given to (at least as much as we scrutinize our own actions). The proof is in the pudding. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jun 18th, 2004, 8:12pm Obviously, Steg and I are ticked off about this one. Just one more point to sew it up. Saddam gave his enemys to whoever to torture them, and when he REALLY wanted a little fun, he put them through a chipper. Like the ones that we put branches through, but these were for metal. So, if he didn't hate you too much, you went in head first. If he really hated you (or if he was having a bad hair day), you went in feet first. Dumb kids far from home can screw up with dopey internet pictures and bad ideas. They will grow up in time. We are talking about apples and oranges here. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 18th, 2004, 8:15pm on 06/18/04 at 19:50:46, Callie wrote:
VERY interesting, given the allusion I started out with above. I kind of went the other way with it (temporally), BUT our two ends surely meet. [smiley=yes.gif] Quote:
AMEN! ESPECIALLY given the upcoming election. Quote:
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Of which MY VERY OWN mother-in-law and father-in-law were recipients. Quote:
(Light-hearted tangent) Interesting allusion given #37 on Steggie Steggum's [smiley=smileytrash.gif] Top 40 Countdown on the "G.T.K.Y.G (Get To Know Your Gridironers) - Topic: Music" thread. ;D Quote:
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Again, very interesting given my "macrocosmic" comparison of all this to Columbine. ... I'm with ya, Callie! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 18th, 2004, 8:24pm on 06/18/04 at 19:09:44, DirkDiggler wrote:
Right, Steve! [smiley=yes.gif] And our very working through this VERY sticky dilemma, during which we are bound to make mistakes, is exactly what you are beating (the) US (in both senses of the combination of those two letters ;) ) up for/with. It's a cycle of nonsense... and madness. [smiley=shrug.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jun 18th, 2004, 8:32pm No one is wrong here, either. We're used to neatly packaged history that makes it seem like it happened in a flash. The reality of it all would fill more computers than we can dream of. It happens day by day and footfall by footfall. The winners write the history, but in the information age maybe more will be preserved. Dirk is just the type of guy we need in this country to question and keep the balance. The checks and balances are what make our country great. History will make the final decision, but we need both sides to the keep discussing everything - always. And we need to avoid the political spin that distorts the answers. One of the lesser talked about parts of "Rip Van Winkle" was that before he went to sleep, men would sit at the pub and discuss months' old newspaper articles in depth. After he woke up, people were doing politics and political slogans. It was a statement of before and after, checks and balances. The discussions had merit and depth. The politics were just something self-serving by characters who were "in the moment" or hiding until a useful moment. Good stuff. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 18th, 2004, 8:52pm I am pissed off too!!!! This is where Reagan would come in handy. Just go bomb the shit outta someone. Fuck this rebuilding shit. Why bother rebuilding? We build a pipeline, they blow it up. What was the oil output in Iraq yesterday? ZERO !! They blew up the pipelines. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jun 18th, 2004, 9:07pm The bad guys are screwing things up over there. That's why we go. That's why we build. We define ourselves as honorable people. Just the point you made. Most people there just want the cars and refrigerators and good lives for their children. We will give them that. That's what we show the world. That we are truly doing the better things. (Unlike the FRENCH.) Major cultural change takes time. God's honest truth, I'd like five minutes with some of those guys in a room where I have the baseball bat. But that will only just get rid of one and create a bunch more idiots. (But Oh-My-God I would really love it!). Anyway, true growth takes time. We just have to analyze, discuss, and evolve. The apes will always be among us. The guys at the top and the guys on the ground will hopefully hold them off. That's how come we have the freedom to sit at our computers and play fantasy football. Someone made it possible. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by kidcrash on Jun 18th, 2004, 9:45pm They are the vets,They died for us.They went somewhere and fought A war so we could have what we have today.I cannot imagine what they went through so we can enjoy the freedom that we have.I try to support veterans as much as possible.I wear a POW/MIA band on my wrist.His name is Stephan J.Harber.He was a sgt. in the army.He went MIA on july 2nd 1970 in south vietnan.God bless him and god bless all who have served this country. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jun 18th, 2004, 10:04pm We buy products made by disabled Vets. That helps too. Even something as simple as garbage bags. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by kidcrash on Jun 18th, 2004, 10:28pm RIGHT ON CALLIE.NEVER FORGET THE VETS. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by bgsgfan on Jun 19th, 2004, 2:52am [smiley=smitten.gif] Callie, that was an extremely eloquent and well written post. It would be suitable for an editorial piece in a "real" newspaper. [smiley=bow.gif] Steve, as usual, yours was well-done as well. Were you 2 talking on the phone together while you wrote those pieces? They are strikingly similar even though in each of your own particular styles. Both of you expressed my thoughts and feelings better than I could have myself, thank you! [smiley=worship.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jun 19th, 2004, 8:07pm :-* |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Jun 23rd, 2004, 4:38pm I just checked my schedule and realized that I'll be traveling during Week 4 of the NFL. That's when the Eagles visit Chicago. Ironically, I'll be in Chicago that weekend. I checked a few sites (footballtickets.com - the one that is a link partner here, stubhub.com, ebay) and the tix are very expensive and pretty limited. Just out of curiosity, is this the norm? Are Bears tix hard to get? Anyone have any connections in Chicago? My wife would be traveling with me, so I'd need 2 tix. I've never been to Soldier Field and would like to add that to my (very short) list of NFL stadiums visited. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jun 23rd, 2004, 7:14pm Just a fun read about the '85 Bears. Go down and click on that choice. (Philly, it has some links for Bears tix, too. Have no idea if they're any good.) :) http://us.f522.mail.yahoo.com/ym/ShowLetter?MsgId=6351_429498_8799_1131_5248_0_19333_18070_1961387371&Idx=24&YY=37208&inc=25&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b&box=Trash |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2004, 7:53pm Phil, I would recommend trying e-Bay. That's how I got the tickets for the two games we went to last September while in Colorado, including the "highly sought" Broncos-Raiders Monday night game. It's about as good as you'll find (and it's quite fun). Good luck! [smiley=shamrock.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 23rd, 2004, 8:10pm on 06/23/04 at 19:53:21, StegRock wrote:
Steg is right. You will probably find the best deals here. However, remember I don't think they have sold general tickets to the public yet. So, the ones available now will be the high prioced season tickets. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2004, 11:08pm Well, the tickets I bought were season tickets... |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jun 24th, 2004, 6:01pm Off the Bears tix subject, but I just went to Foodtown (grocery store) and saw a REALLY GREAT truck obviously owned by a true fan. It was commercial, for a pest control company called Raider Pest Control. It was one of those long cab trucks with a cap on the back. Looked brand spanking new. Silver truck, black tinted windows. Black lettering. The cap window had "Commitment Against Pestilence" (sp?) lettered on it. The doors had a Raider shield with "Raiders" and the crossed swords skewering a bug that looked like a big ant or something! Looked great! Watch for it around town, Steg. Truly a thing of beauty! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by KillerKingSting on Jun 24th, 2004, 6:34pm on 06/24/04 at 18:01:02, Callie wrote:
For the record, I am against Bug Abuse of any kind. ;D Its things like this that prompt me & my scien-ticks to form support groups and equal rights for bugs all over! [smiley=onit.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jun 24th, 2004, 6:36pm Bees don't like ants. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 24th, 2004, 7:12pm Exactly, KKS! I've been an advocate for ticks with Lyme's Disease for ages. [smiley=soapboxer.gif] Us humans are so selfish! [smiley=nono.gif] The ticks have the disease first and foremost, ya know! >:( ... Heal the ticks! [smiley=protest.gif] Heal the ticks! [smiley=protest.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=sinister.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 24th, 2004, 8:18pm on 06/24/04 at 19:12:10, StegRock wrote:
Ironic timing....my brother was just put in the hospital for Lymes disease. He was 'biten' this weekend, felt sick on Monday. Hospitalized Monday night so they could pump anti-biotics into him. 4 weeks of super stong anti-biotics. He gets home from hospital, his motorcycle was stolen. He gets the mail Tuesday after noon, $800 bill for illegal dumping of drywall(from renovating his kitchen.) That is a BAD week!! And it is only Thursday!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jun 24th, 2004, 8:20pm The really important thing is his health. A girlfriend of mine got Lymes bad, in the hospital, pumped with antibiotics, concerns about her heart. But she was completely cured. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 24th, 2004, 8:38pm on 06/24/04 at 20:20:56, Callie wrote:
Yes, thanks! I do not think he is too worried since they got on it so quick. Usually the quicker you catch it, the better. Not even officially diagnosed yet, but they are pretty sure. |
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Title: IMMEDIATE ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Post by StegRock on Jun 24th, 2004, 10:13pm REQUIRES IMMEDIATE ATTENTION if interested!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you guys would like to get a fairly close-up glimpse into the "world" I lived in for seven years in South Korea, flick on ABC's Primetime Thursday. I believe it'll be the second or third story (right now they are doing a report on the group Wilson Philips). I DEFINITELY recognized many of the places they were showing in the preview! Check it out and feel free to jet questions at me afterwards if you want to! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 24th, 2004, 10:38pm Not as much Korea as I had hoped for. I do know Itaewon-dong well, though, and the palace gate they were standing in front of in one of the pictures is "Toksu-koong", which I have been to a few times (I even took my mom there), and that original "bar" they showed looked VERY familiar, really. I actually have never heard about this story, so I can't answer any questions about that. Oh well, on to Part II... |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 24th, 2004, 11:07pm Well, :-/ not much more on the Korea exploration front. The tall building with copper windows shown at the beginning of the show is their famous 63 Building. My wife worked there for about a year and I've been there a number of times. We actually attended a wedding of one of her VERY WELL-OFF friends there. Regarding the report, I think the chick had something to do with it. But, anyway, that's another reality I dealt with over there, gnarly, mis"fit", fat western chicks, who pose weirdo what-ifs like the one chick did to her boyfriend before leaving about what if she died while in Korea. ... Off that [smiley=note.gif] , the closing story about Matt Stepanek was very touching. :'( What a kid! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 25th, 2004, 11:52am Well, guys and gal(s), as for my little Korean stowaway, I said a little while back that you'd sort of be seeing her soon... Do know that it is VERY hard to summarize in VERY short my wife's and my life "together", especially when a question like "Where will you live?" is asked on the form and then the sentence in the write-up is put in the present tense. Since I am such an "open book" with you guys, you will surely notice some "matter-of-factly" necessary tendentiousness to the presentation. [smiley=shrug.gif] What can you do? Our situation heretofore is not "ordinary" by any stretch of the imagination, and, e.g., D.C. is where "we" will, alas, finally be "together"/reunited. In any case, enjoy meeting my #1 girl... [smiley=smitten.gif] http://www.app.com/weddings_2001/. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on Jun 25th, 2004, 11:55am Very nice Steve!! She is beautiful. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by bgsgfan on Jun 25th, 2004, 12:18pm Wow! How did you catch her? ;) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 25th, 2004, 12:59pm Come on now, bg... [smiley=slap.gif] ... ;) No, really, thanks, guys,... TJ, bg! She's a real sweetie! [smiley=bow.gif] (That's bowing, by the way, NOT bobbing! Eh-hem! [smiley=tonguin.gif] AND, that's sticking tongue out at yous, NOT licking! You gutter minds!) ;) ... [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] on 06/25/04 at 11:52:15, StegRock wrote:
An interesting side note on this,... June 19th, the date this was run in the Press, is my mom's birthday. Mom couldn't have asked for a more special and unique birthday present! ;D ... [smiley=swollenhead.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by kidcrash on Jun 25th, 2004, 1:14pm I concur,she Is beautiful.Dont surprise me at all studrock.By the way when do you plan on sending my wife back to me ;) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 25th, 2004, 4:47pm kc,... [smiley=bow.gif] (bowin', not bobbin' [smiley=gettinridden.gif] ) ;) ... thanks! I've got to get finished with BW's wife first. (I've actually heard through "the Gridiron Grapevine" that she's quite the honey. [smiley=lickinmychops.gif] ... Now, I can speak "firsthand" and not just "second hand". ;) ) ;D Oh, boy, anyway, we're starting to talk wife swappin' here on "the Gridiron"! [smiley=lickinmychops.gif] We're talkin' my language! [smiley=wiseguy.gif] ... [smiley=shiteatingrin.gif] ... ;) How cum I think my wife's going to be very busy in all this? [smiley=boobies.gif] ... Oh boy, I got to go to the bathroom and "relieve some tension"... [smiley=dick.jpg] ... The [smiley=hooters.gif] girls [smiley=titflash.gif] readin' this must be like :-[ and :o and :-X ! What are you thinkin' 'bout all this dirty talkin', Callie? [smiley=nownow.gif] ... [smiley=awwgee.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jun 25th, 2004, 5:09pm Just got back from work She's gorgeous Steg. And knowing you, I'm sure you would choose a life mate who is good and kind and strong. As for the tone of the joint: 1) I don't express myself in that way, but as we all know I am a Raider. I would fit right in at the infamous Black Hole if I ever got to watch a game there. I am not a prude. 2) I don't know how other gals would react. Not my business. If anyone wants to hang around here they have to take us as we are. I think we're all terrific. 3) I love this place. 4) I get a kick out of all of it too. 5) Victor is a MUSICIAN! WHAT DO YOU THINK I LIKE IN A MAN? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jun 25th, 2004, 5:44pm Cool! I knew you were a cool chick, Call! Okay, 'nuff talkin'... :-* ... ;) Let's get this .orgy goin'! ... Anyway, how 'bout that de facto plug for FantasyFootballer.com I got in there? ;D ... [smiley=whistle.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jun 25th, 2004, 7:53pm The plug was good. Made us all proud to be a part of it. It was your wedding announcement, and you actually included us all in there. Thank you. It's a slow night at CBFL, so maybe it's a good time to do a quick explanation of my last post. Get to know your Gridironers! I am a person who believes that if you do not like being somewhere, go some place else. I do not think that humor among adults has to be censored when it is simply good, harmless fun. If you don't like it, you are not forced to be there. As for Victor, to give him his due he was studying under a student of Horowitz, building a career as a concert pianist, and wining national competitions. Then his father died, and he supported his mother and young brothers just gigging. Quit studies and a great career to come, took care of family. He supported his mother, who had very expensive medical problems, for the rest of her life. He is also a computer genius as well. I don't want anyone to sound like they are less than they are for the sake of a little fun on my part. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by junkyardjake on Jun 25th, 2004, 11:37pm Steg, nice picture, your wife looks like a sweetheart (and you're looking quite dapper yourself), Congratulations ! [smiley=ragin.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by steelkings on Jun 29th, 2004, 8:34am A big ole highdi yall from Indiana. Rip van Steelkings [smiley=sleepers.gif] has rolled left out of the drool puddle to see if ....................... IS IT FOOTBALL SEASON YET? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Jun 29th, 2004, 9:13am It's always football season. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Jul 4th, 2004, 6:42pm back. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jul 8th, 2004, 8:56pm [smiley=footballsmiley.gif] ... [smiley=wave.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DirkDiggler on Jul 8th, 2004, 9:01pm on 07/08/04 at 20:56:39, StegRock wrote:
Your waving to football? Hello or good-bye? Words are a wonderful tool of communication. ;D |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jul 8th, 2004, 9:11pm Smileoglyphics are too... [smiley=flipa.gif] ... ;) ... By the way, I was summarizing/responding to the last few posts with my simple smileoglyphic message above. ;D |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jul 8th, 2004, 9:13pm Give the guy a break. If I'm getting it right, he's on his HONEYMOON!!!!! If he isn't, he should be. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jul 8th, 2004, 9:25pm [smiley=uh.gif] Thanks for... something there, Callie, but I'm a bit [smiley=lost.gif] ... Anyway,... see that FAT, yellow Budget truck parked across the way there, Callie? ;D |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jul 8th, 2004, 9:30pm Whoa!!! I thought you went to South!! See the truck, and the Patriotic Lights are back!! Welcome back to the Gardens, guy!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Jul 13th, 2004, 4:17pm If anyone has seen any of the footage of the flooding in NJ, that's right about where I live. Fortunately I live just north (Mt. Holly) of where all the really heavy stuff hit. We only got about 5 or 6 inches yesterday. But the town where I grew up (Medford - 5 miles south of where I live now) had to declare a state of emergency and the next town over, Tabernacle, had 11-13 inches of rain. I can't even fathom how much that is. Medford Lakes had 5 dams break and put many houses under water. My wife was watching the news this morning and many of the people being interviewed were people we both know. There was a building that we had considered purchasing a couple years ago to start a retail business. They showed it on the local news and it had been lifted off its foundation and moved a few feet away. The freaky thing is that no one had any idea this was coming. I thought it odd that it rained pretty much non-stop in Princeton (especially since we hadn't had rain in weeks), but I didn't know just how bad it all was. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jul 13th, 2004, 5:58pm Just saw your weather forecast. Looks like a pause tonight, then more rain tomorrow. And we do live on a flood plain. Good luck, stay dry. Modification: GEEZ, Philly. We get the Channel 6 Action News from your area on our cable up here, and I've been watching the reports. Wow. Did you have to evacuate? They say the water outside is contaminated, to boot. And the roads are a mess. Good Luck! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by PrimeTime on Jul 13th, 2004, 8:42pm Hi guys and gals, I'm hoping to be back a little more regular now. I was tied up with work and coaching my sons little league baseball team. We finished the regular season 11 - 3 and then we won the championship by a score of 23-7. My boys can hit! Our scores for the three playoffs games were 8 - 0, 26-3, and the championship 23 -7. [smiley=trophy.gif] Wow, it looks like I missed a lot over the last couple of weeks. [smiley=jawdroppin.gif] Steg - Congratulations on your U.S. wedding. You guys make a great looking couple. I want to wish you the best of luck. Washington is a great city. I see a road trip in the future. Is anyone interested? [smiley=cheers.gif] [smiley=texan.gif] [smiley=titflash.gif] [smiley=ragin.gif] [smiley=scared.gif] I tried to log on yeaterday and noticed the site was "suspended". I'm glad that is all worked out. I would like to know the "whole" story when you feel like telling it Steg. We might be a small group here, but we always like a good fight. (If that is what we need to do) [smiley=gladiator.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jul 13th, 2004, 11:22pm Just a note. I won't be around for about a week. I'm not ignoring The Gridiron, I'm just flying out to see my mom. Be back soon! [smiley=sunny.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Jul 14th, 2004, 10:10am on 07/13/04 at 17:58:14, Callie wrote:
We're fine where I am. My wife watched Channel 6 most of the day yesterday as they had lots of flood coverage. When I got home last night I hopped in the car with my son and we drove around a bit. My parents live about 5 miles from me, but I couldn't get to their house because the roads in-between were all under water. If I wanted to get there (they live on higher ground in Medford) I would have had to drive about 20-25 miles out of the way. I personally know two people who live in Lumberton right next to the Rancocas Creek, which is causing nearly all of the damage) and I'm sure their houses are under deep water right now. All of my family and my wife's family (in Medford, Medford Lakes, and Shamong - hard hit areas) are on higher ground and didn't get flooded out. I'm just hoping the storms coming today don't cause any additional problems. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jul 15th, 2004, 4:53pm Things are crazy here in my neighborhood/apartment complex. The Wachovia Bank, my bank, diagonally adjacent to our apartment building, viewable from our back windows/balcony, on Route 35 at Fairmont Ave. (which runs about 50 yards away parallel to the more well-know Sunset Ave., which brings you into Asbury Park) in Ocean was robbed this afternoon. About an hour and a half ago, I went out to shake something out and the next thing I know what turned out to be an unmarked cop car was buzzing around from the office building right behind our apartment building like 90 mph to ask me if I had seen a black guy running through here because the bank "over there" was just robbed. They are now saying to stay inside (with your doors locked) and that dogs will be coming through soon. :o ... [smiley=firinback.gif] Crazy! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on Jul 15th, 2004, 4:59pm I'm surprised the cop didn't stop you for "shaking" your "unit" out in the open?? [smiley=spank.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jul 15th, 2004, 5:04pm [smiley=dick.jpg] ... Actually, at first I was like, "Oh, no, not the computer police!" [smiley=nervous.gif] ... [smiley=LMFAO.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by The Juror on Jul 15th, 2004, 5:08pm At least it wasn't the D-soup police. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jul 20th, 2004, 6:10pm For those curious, Steggie's all registered with a full class load. [smiley=RIF.gif] I officially enrolled, what, about five weeks ago. It took awhile for my on-line account to be activated for me to register. [smiley=steg.gif] It's done now, though, and I am happy as a [smiley=pig.gif] in poo. [smiley=graduate.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jul 20th, 2004, 6:12pm Congrats! And...I just flew in from Western PA. (Steelers country, Jeremy!) I'm back in the Gardens again. Got in just a little while ago. BTW, anyone see Philly floating by? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jul 20th, 2004, 7:39pm Here's an interesting little thing flying around the net: "This is eerie...and something to think about since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages. The following verse is from the Quran, (the Islamic Bible).. Quran (9:11) -- For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace." Note the verse number. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by PrimeTime on Jul 20th, 2004, 11:05pm on 07/20/04 at 19:39:36, Callie wrote:
While it sounds good, I think it is a fake. 9.11 of the Koran is as follows [9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications clear for a people who know. Here is the link: http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/koran/koran-idx?type=DIV0&byte=282392 |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jul 20th, 2004, 11:11pm I knew I should have looked it up before I sent it. [smiley=RIF.gif] Thanks! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jul 21st, 2004, 5:17pm Maybe this will make up for my little goof-up above. It's good. "Click to Play," then "Watch Film": http://www.jibjab.com/ |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by PrimeTime on Jul 21st, 2004, 11:00pm That was very good. I really enjoyed it. [smiley=laugh.gif] BTW, don't mind me, the first five years of my career were spent as an auditor for Ernst and Young! [smiley=checkin.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Jul 26th, 2004, 10:23pm I have been meaning but kept forgetting to tell you guys about one of the neatest things that happened on my recent trip to Denver. I was reminded today as I just got back that role of film. It actually happened the day I was taking off. There is just "what happened", but really it is the "whole" story that's amazing. The VERY short of it... I was on the train on my way up to Liberty (Newark) International Airport. A few stops before, two girls I had been talking off-and-on to told me something VERY flattering. [smiley=awwgee.gif] It prompted me to mention that I have been told by many people, mainly chicks, that I look like (a young) Paul McCartney and by a few people that I resemble Jim Breuer (comedian/actor from SNL and the movie Half-Baked). My mentioning Breuer is the key to the story. So, I get to the airport VERY early, like three hours before my flight and I have an e-ticket and nothing to check-in, so... I give my mom a call on my cell phone having to tell her about what was said to me on the train... and to kill some time. Next thing, I just start walking around the terminal before going through security and down to my gate. WELL, I look over at this ATM machine and who is there getting some cash? Unbelievably,... [smiley=drummer.gif] Jim Breuer, whose name had just been on my lips. It could have been any other celebrity in the world and it still would have been cool, but this was just crazy. So, anyway, I wanted to some way "communicate" with him (and confirm). Not knowing what to do or wanting to be bothersome (because meeting celebrities is not a big deal to me) and being the Steg that I am, I just decide to say, "Jim Breuer," out loud. And, the dude did quickly look over his shoulder at me. The girl who was obviously with him gives me a smile and a look like "you're right". Well, anyway, I just keep walking. On my way back about 15 minutes later, though, walking right at me there he is again. This time as I approach him I say, "You are Jim Breuer, right?" He says back in a very funny manner, "Are you stalking me?" and then knods his head yes. With that starts a small conversation. I was a bit nervous, again, not so much because of his celebrity, but because I did not want to bother him, them. I did mention to him about people's telling me I looked like him and in the end we took a picture together, which I just got back today. It's wild. I knew I, not thinking, threw my arm around him for the picture (I actually immediately asked him if that was okay, and he was totally cool), but I wasn't sure if he put his arm around me. He did. He was a VERY cool guy. He was not off-putting at all; he was very down to earth and friendly. I was wearing my FFPro.com t-shirt and around-aboutly brought it up,... so here's to hoping he drops on by... [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] I just thought this was worth sharing with you guys. It's not just a celeb story. Anyway, maybe I'll get a chance to scan the picture in and post it (I look like a big dork, though [smiley=no.gif] ). |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Jul 26th, 2004, 10:31pm Jim Breuer Pix! http://members.tripod.com/~goat30/pics.htm |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Aug 16th, 2004, 10:04pm Olympics, anyone? How about that "Dream Team" of ours this year? ... Embarrassing!!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Aug 17th, 2004, 8:27pm Last time it was a point to prove to the world, like what if we actually played OUR pros. This time it's just a way to get an injury. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Aug 18th, 2004, 6:26pm Well, guys and gals, I am in somewhat of a bind and was encouraged by one of my Gridironer friends, who I speak with on the phone on occasion, to present it here. Ya never know. Perhaps someone out there on "the Gridiron" can lend me a hand with this... [smiley=shrug.gif] I will be making my move down to DC in just 10 days. Amidst all the things I am having to push together, I had come to the conclusion that, especially given my tenuous finances, I could put off getting a car at least until Gino gets here in March-April. The apartment I got is just three blocks away from Catholic U., around which my whole life will revolve. When making the occasional trip home to New Jersey to mom about once a month, especially since Catholic U. is located so conveniently to Union Station, I just thought I'd take the train. Well, I finally decided to check the fare for that... :-/ WHACK!!! [smiley=ohshit.gif] $190 round trip (and that's the student rate)!!! That's a car payment. Taking a Greyhound bus is an option, but even that would talley up to about $90 round trip and I really don't like bus travel. As such, I GOTTA GET A CAR and it would be best if I had it to leave with, i.e. by August 28th. Shopping for a car is a nightmare, no less when you are under the gun. I've made good decisions so far regarding this transition. I don't want to blow this one. SO, what the hell, I'd like to know if any of you might be able to help: maybe you are in car sales and can get me a good deal or have a friend or relative who is and can do so, or maybe you are looking to get rid of a car yourself or know someone who is or whatever. If you have any experience or knowledge about purchasing a car via eBay, that would be helpful. There really are GREAT deals there, but being old-fashioned regarding this, the prospect of purchasing a car over the internet just scares me. [smiley=scared.gif] Other than that, I don't really need general advice. I've been ALL OVER the internet and am ardently looking around my area. What I need more than anything is specific help,... secondarily, input on eBay! In very short, I am looking for a late-model (2000 - 2003), economical used car, something along the lines of a Hyundai Accent, Elantra or Tiburon or (certified pre-owned) Honda Civic or Accord, for somewhere between $5000 and $7000 (of course, the lower the better), which is about right based on my fairly extensive research. I am not averse to other commensurate cars like a Dodge Neon or whatever, but the ones I mention have the best warranties you can find on used cars. The car ultimately needs to be reliable for long-distance driving between Washington, DC and Ocean, NJ more than anything. I probably won't use it all too much for local driving around DC. The only "extra" I want is a CD player (for those long trips). So, ANY HELP, my fellow Gridironers and Gridironettes (yea, I saw that one, Callie, and loved it)??? :-/ |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Aug 18th, 2004, 6:37pm on 08/18/04 at 18:26:14, StegRock wrote:
Be very averse... I hate my Neon. But it is reliable. I just am more of a driving enthusiast and want something I can enjoy driving. Anyway, if you look closely at the cars for sale on eBay, you may notice that a good 50% or more of them are actually for sale by a car dealer that can offer a warranty if the original has already run out. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Aug 18th, 2004, 6:50pm Yea, I know that. It's still scary as hell, though. Any specific experiences with buying a car via eBay, fellas? And, please, don't miss my last post, two above!!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by junkyardjake on Aug 18th, 2004, 7:06pm Steg, I wouldn't buy a car on EBay, I can't imagine how with all their bullshit fees and service charges that a dealer can sell something cheaper through that channel. Besides, there is such a huge glut of newer model vehicles on the market now, you should be able to get something reasonably priced from a local dealer with less hassle. http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=used+car&near=Asbury+Park,+NJ&oi=localr |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Aug 18th, 2004, 11:02pm My Denver Raider is very up on cars, and he says that Hyundai is a great car these days. People drive them forever and refuse to drive anything else. They drive them, and they buy them for their kids. The warranty is supposed to be the best in the car world. The product has changed. They went from tinker toy to quality, like Honda. As for dealerships around Ocean, Victor says stay away from Sansone. (For the non-locals, it's a local place.) I have a relative who got a great deal just a week or two ago at the Chrysler dealership around the corner on 35. Nice car. You just have to see what is there at the time and what they need to move. Per my Denver Raider, there is an "aging" process where a car that is great can be moved cheaply by the dealership just because it's been there too long. That's the way it works. And you have to haggle. But if you drive the price down too low, they get you on the financing and get what they need anyway. Stay in touch about all of this if you like. And I think that as a car resource, ebay is a good place to buy football tickets. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Aug 19th, 2004, 9:05am on 08/18/04 at 23:02:16, Callie wrote:
DO NOT finance through the dealer. Go to an online bank to secure your financing before you even go out to shop for a car. We recently refinanced my wife's car using CapitalOne financing online and dropped the rate from the dealer's 9% to the online rate of 4%. If you have a check ready to fill out before you shop, you'll be in a much better position to haggle and get a good deal. Quote:
I only mentioned eBay because a colleague of mine (who lives not too far from you Steg and Callie) used eBay to purchase a 2003 Honda Civic with less than 15k miles for just over $10k. He found it to be an excellent way to purchase a car and is very happy with it. He said he looked at some local Monmouth County car dealers and couldn't find a similar car for under $13k. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Aug 19th, 2004, 6:03pm My Denver Raider sells cars. He says - If you're going to go for a Hyundai, don't get anything before 2000 or 2001. You should be able to get one for what you want to spend. And only get one if you plan to keep it for awhile. They hold up good for the price of the car, but they depreciate fast. So they are not great for resale but are great to keep going. Don't worry about certified pre-owned. You pay for the same inspections that all the other cars go through. You pay more for it, but you can get your own mechanic to check it out for $20 or $30. Now, some mechanics will be honest, but most of them will find something (that's doing his job). It's a money maker. And some mechanics have cars they just like and others they just don't like. That will shape their response. If they don't like that particular car, they'll find more things wrong. If you want a warranty (like the certified pre-owned thing), buy the warranty on the internet. Don't get it through the dealership and don't let "certified pre-owned" go into the equation. And always look at the Carfax. Always ask the dealership to show you the Carfax, but don't take that as gold. Some cars that have been wrecked can look good on the Carfax. The mechanic should be able to tell if the car has been wrecked. That pretty much covers every car you would buy. Honda Accords will be a little too pricey at your range. You would end up with something with more miles on it. Although, the Hondas are definitely superior automobiles. The Civic, if you find the right one, might fit your budget. There is always a trade off, though. The Civic is superior in every aspect, but it is going to be older and more miles in your price range. He doesn't know if the more miles and older car is worth the trade-off. Depends on the deal you get, the history of the car, all that stuff. Look at insurance - that is a hidden cost. When purchasing the vehicle, buying a used car, never ever ever go anywhere that does not have a major company like the new cars. Never go to Bob's Cars. Always go to a store that has some major brand backing it for new car sales. It is a lot more dangerous at Bob's, and you are a lot more likely to be ripped off. Buy your warranty on the internet, and do a lot of searching to get the best one and the best price. Always be sure that you buy a warranty that can be used where you will be. Check what the warranty covers. As for getting financing online, is it better - no and yes. You always want to go to a couple different banks and check on the internet and apply. Credit unions do the best, you don't always have to belong to them - you can open up an account with them tomorrow if you don't belong to them and need to. Security Service, USAA, etc. They always give you the best rates. Here is the trick - you don't want to go to 20 different places to find the best rates. You can look, but don't apply. You only want to apply to two or three, because you don't want to bring your credit score down by all of these places checking your credit. Get whatever rate you can get from a credit union or a brick and mortar bank or a bank on the internet (the bank that you bank with will probably give you the best rate anyway), then you take that rate, and when you are at the dealership and decide on a car - you do not talk about financing, warranty, or anything like that until you have negotiated the lowest price - not payment, price. Never negotiate based on payment. Negotiate on the selling price of the car. Once you get that to the lowest possible price, to where they don't want to let you walk, then and only then do you start doing the paperwork for that price. When they ask you about pulling your credit, then you tell them that you have your own financing but if you can beat the rate that I got, no problem. And don't ever mention the fact that you have your own warranty from the internet. Then when they offer you all that stuff in finance, in the business office, give them straight "No's." If they try to tell you this lender requires blah, blah, blah, tell them OK, I'm going to check with my bank and see if they do. Don't tell them to Simonize or whatever offer they offer, say "No." Whatever they offer other than the offer, say no. If for some reason you can't find a warranty deal on the internet that's better, you can probably go back next week and still get what they offered. One other thing, as far as used cars go, don't be fooled by Kelly's Blue Book or Edmonds or whatever. All their values they will show you there are inflated prices. Go based on what they are asking for the car and figure you're going to get a big discount from that. Leave unless you do. Always have one foot out the door like you're going to leave. You can leave them your phone number. It won't insure that you won't pay a little too much for the car, but it will insure you won't get ripped off. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Aug 20th, 2004, 8:44am Just to piggyback on what Callie said... Hondas are one of the more expensive cars to insure. Why? Because they are one of the most stolen cars. Hondas are very popular at chop shops because everyone owns a Honda and will need parts at some point. If you're looking Hyundai, you should be able to find a used Elantra in your price range. The Accent and Tiburon might be a little bit small for a tall guy like you and also if you have any plans to transport stuff between NJ and DC. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by GOLF_FREAK on Aug 22nd, 2004, 7:38am when buying a new car there is something called holdback which not a lot of people know about. here is how it works. the parent company lets say Honda. they give the dealership some extra money to put the car on the lot(kinda like rent for the space) the quicker the dealership gets that car off the lot the quicker they can get another car in for more holdback money from parent company (honda). you can sometimes get some of this holdback money. i think it is usually about 5% of cost of car. could be a couple hundred bucks for you. good hunting. i have recently been looking in mitsubishi's cause they got a 10 year powertrain. and 5-6 year bumper to bumper along with 3 year sched maintenance. that is stellar stuff. but i also have heard they are not selliing too many cars(could be a prob if they go out of business), but i haven't heard too much about their cars being bad at all. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Aug 22nd, 2004, 7:16pm Thank you, all, for caring enough to chime in... Those of you who have gotten to know me over time here know how the purchasing of a car right now "fits" into the scheme of things. I appreciate your trying to help. In all honesty, I did not get the specific kind of help I specifically asked and was hoping for. But, the time you guys... and gals put into responding will not go forgotten. [smiley=bow.gif] Moving right along,... a few guys who were in the chatroom the other night already know (Call, you might already know by just having looked out your front window)... I have already gotten a car. Got it on Friday. AWESOME deal!!! Fantastic car!!! Excellently-running 2000 Hyundai Accent with (what amounts to a) 3-year/30,000-mile extended bumper-to-bumper (Hyundai) factory warranty and a sweet JVC CD stereo. In very short, the sticker price for just the car originally was $7995, (inflated) Kelly Blue Book Retail Value something like $8500. I got it for $5800... + the CD stereo, the extended warranty, (mandatory minimum) vehicle-etching security deal, and TAX, I paid, all in all, $7338. AWESOME!!! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] With how my life has gone post-graduation (as most of you reading this likely know), namely living in Korea for seven years and all the residual results of that, this is the first car of my very own I have had since July, 1994! :) Contrary to the "usual", I had a WONDERFUL car-buying experience. All of the "talking down" on the car went down via e-mail, actually (the way to go). The only "talking down" that occured the day of was regarding the extended warranty. The fella just totally saw my sincerity regarding my poor, grad-school student situation and just "came to me". Bottom line, I would highly recommend Lester Glenn Auto Group on Rt. 37 in Toms River! [smiley=bow.gif] I also got quite an education. In VERY short, a great, substantive use of the "Carfax" report, which actually can be fudged when it comes to "major" things, is tracking when the dealership you are dealing with procured the car you are looking at. Of course, it is only logical that, like any merchant, they would like to sell the cars on their lot as quickly as possible. But, moreover, there is some deal where after 30 days they have to start paying tax and extra fees for having the car on their lot, so they are more inclined to want to move it. That was (a not insignificant) part of "my deal". They had had it for about 5 days over the 30 and were starting to have to pay on it/pay for it to be on their lot. Very interesting. By the way, they did not just give up that info freely. It's just the guy was explaining some general things; I was reading through [smiley=RIF.gif] the "Carfax" report and put 2 and 2 together and then asked. He just knodded his head [smiley=yes.gif] as the cat [smiley=pussycat.gif] in the bag on his desk jumped out of the bag and into my arms. ;D ... [smiley=whistle.gif] [smiley=wave.gif] ... [smiley=cruisin.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Aug 22nd, 2004, 7:23pm [smiley=cruisin.gif] IT LOOKS GREAT! [smiley=cruisin.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Aug 22nd, 2004, 7:32pm Thanks, Call! Mind you, they threw in a week's worth of insurance free of charge to tide me over, as well. What a sweetheart deal! :D |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Aug 23rd, 2004, 9:59pm Guys, DRAMA!!! After all the BS I had been put through with (what turned out to be) this oftentimes harrowing grad-school "expedition", as many of you who have become my friends know, Steg's (seemingly) innate flair for the dramatic this time bears some wonderful fruit. ... With just one week before classes begin and just five days before I head down to DC, I get contacted by the Dean of the School of Philosophy, who tells me that a half-tuition scholarship has fallen to me (someone must have backed out late in the ballgame and I must have been next up). I had given up on any grant, scholarship or fellowship money long ago. Anyway, as per earlier posts of mine here on this thread, I did not even know they offered partial scholarships; although in my meeting with the Dean back in April he did mention something about partial monies, it did not seem clear to me, so I just thought there was the three tiers of acceptance I presented before. Well, I guess bump me up to tier "1-b", I guess!!! Catholic U. is a VERY spendy school if you don't know. Half tuition covered is BIG. And, actually, with that PHAT "executive" (I now know that is what they call it and that there are only TWO at Catholic U.) graduate work-study job I fell into, my tuition is COVERED, boyz!!! [smiley=greedy.gif] ... [smiley=money.gif] ... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Make that tier "1-a-ii"! ;) This all may have taken awhile to come together. Nevertheless, this is the BEST news my little family of mom, wife (who I only have to endure another 6 or so months of being away from) and me could have gotten!!! [smiley=touching.gif] ... :) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Aug 23rd, 2004, 10:05pm The Universe is wise. [smiley=sunny.gif] CONGRATULATIONS! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Sep 21st, 2004, 1:09am Back. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Sep 21st, 2004, 10:11am on 09/21/04 at 01:09:36, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:
WB man... why the long disappearance? Gotta love those Bucs! ;) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 22nd, 2004, 1:40am This happened once before, did it not? ;) on 09/21/04 at 01:09:36, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Sep 22nd, 2004, 11:18am Hey Jim... just out of curiosity, what is that avatar you're using? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 22nd, 2004, 12:05pm That is Pizza the Hut, from Spaceballs. on 09/22/04 at 11:18:56, Philly wrote:
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Sep 22nd, 2004, 12:48pm on 09/22/04 at 12:05:50, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Wow... haven't seen that movie in a l-o-n-g time... forgot all about him. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 22nd, 2004, 1:26pm One of the many DVDs I have purchased recently. Very stupid but fun flick. on 09/22/04 at 12:48:37, Philly wrote:
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Sep 22nd, 2004, 1:27pm Honestly, that thing makes me nauseous. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Sep 27th, 2004, 2:41pm on 09/21/04 at 10:11:32, Philly wrote:
Just had a "feeling" that the Bucs were not going to have the "best" of starts and I didn't want to hear anything. ;D Na seriously though, just been busy with college, work, etc. Really tough for me to keep active with all my online stuff. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Sep 29th, 2004, 5:35pm on 09/27/04 at 14:41:04, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:
That is what I suspected... So, if you want to divulge, how is school? What are you studying? Where? It's a bit of an adjustment, huh? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by bgsgfan on Oct 2nd, 2004, 9:15am My girlfriend's mother died Friday morning. I will probably not be around much the next several days. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Oct 2nd, 2004, 10:25pm Sorry for her loss. My condolences to you and her family. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Oct 12th, 2004, 1:08am Well, the gorilla is FINALLY off my Astro's backs, as the pummel the Braves 12-3 to advance to the NLCS against the Cardinals. Now, I don't know if they have enough gas in the tank to overcome St. Louis, but at least they exorcise a MAJOR demon in Atlanta. GO STROS!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by sameoldsameold on Oct 26th, 2004, 7:14pm What is up with TO? To me...he is making lame arguements up so he can sell his book....can it get lamer then this.....i dont like this at all and personally dont like him....ripping down a fans poster i could care less what it said....the fan worked on it and if he was such a "good guy" he wouldnt have done anything like that..... ALSO....you dont see him calling out ray lewis....to me T.O. is a fake and only fronts to people he knows he can take.....the Day T.O. calls out ray lewis or someone who is ruthless is the day T.O. gets a little respect....until then he is a lame faker who is trying to sell a book by picking on people and then crying when asked about it...."its in the book"....what a lame attempt to sell books....oh well what can you do... |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Oct 27th, 2004, 10:08am on 10/26/04 at 19:14:28, sameoldsameold wrote:
Welcome to the world of capitalism. Of course he is going to hawk his book every chance he gets. He's trying to increase sales. I don't know what's in the book. I won't buy it. But if he makes it seem more controversial, maybe more people will buy it. As for Ray Lewis... TO's not calling him out because the two of them are good friends. They already played each other once this season and there was no problem. I'm sure the media will be looking to play up this angle, but there's really no story there. It played itself out in preseason and the post-game story was that the two of them hugged before the game and expressed their love for each other. TO has plenty of respect in the NFL among the other players (especially those who have to try to cover him) and also is well-respected in Philadelphia, which is where it really counts. His teammates, coaches, and fans love him. After the Cleveland game, fans were wondering why TO isn't being used more (Todd Pinkston had a 100-yard game Sunday). TO had 100 yards and 2 TDs and fans think he is underutilized. I love it! As for him ripping down a sign. Who cares? He got the penalty for it. Andy Reid said something to him about it. It's over. It was a very minor incident in the game. What about the Eagles special teams player who was knocked unconscious during the game, only to come to and have the Browns players mock him as he regains consciousness? This sort of thing goes on and you're worried about the feelings of some fan who made a sign with derogatory comments towards TO? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by sameoldsameold on Oct 28th, 2004, 2:19am philly i think your out of your mind......ripping down the sign...who cares? i dont even care if it was derogatory....the fans spent time and money to get where they are sitting...it is part of the game....TO is being a baby and needs to suck it up.....wah wah garcia is gay wah wah i dont wanna play in baltimore wah wah i dont get the ball enough.....he is a big whiner....so you made comments last week about garcia....what do you think about your comments....wah wah i dont wanna talka bout it now.....i dont even know what your trying to defend....im not questioning his talent...which your providing stats for but im questioning his conscious and his attitude.....im the best yah! but wah wah i wanna cry some more.....i know its all about selling his book....but its the little things that piss me off....and tell me you wouldnt be pissed if you spent time to make a sign got a seat close to the endzone and the player comes and rips it down....if you even think about saying you wouldnt be mad your full of crap....TO's attitude is stinking up the NFL....end of story... |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Oct 28th, 2004, 9:24am on 10/28/04 at 02:19:53, sameoldsameold wrote:
Honestly, I'd love it. First off, I'd know that I got into that player's head. Secondly, I'd know that everyone is talking about the sign that I made. I'd love the attention! So, no, I wouldn't be mad. I'd be ecstatic! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by BarnabyWilde on Oct 28th, 2004, 11:53am Living in the Bay Area, I can tell you, TO is an ass, plain and simple. I don't care what Jeff or any other Eagle fan says about how much love the city of Philadelphia has for him. As soon as the Eagles start losing, TO will start whining, and fans will start riding him. End of story. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Oct 28th, 2004, 3:10pm on 10/28/04 at 11:53:05, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Let me point out that before TO came to Philly, I couldn't stand the guy. I even thought his spiking of the football (twice) on the Dallas star was weak (and I hate the Cowboys). But he's exactly what this football team needed. His unquestioned talent aside, the team needed his attitude. They needed a guy who will outwork everyone else to succeed. They needed a guy who will speak his mind and defend the team. It seems like TO is a distraction to the NFL, but he hasn't been a distraction to the Eagles. He wants the ball thrown to him on every play. If there are wideouts on other teams who don't feel the same way, they don't even deserve to be in the NFL. Last week when Todd Pinkston caught 100-yards worth of passes, Owens wasn't whining that he didn't get enough looks, he was happy for the team and the win. As far as the Eagles fans riding him if they start losing? I can't imagine that. If TO is out there giving 100% on every play, I can guarantee the fans will get on Andy Reid for not using TO enough instead of getting on TO. If TO starts dropping balls or taking plays off, then the fans will get on him. But let's face it... the Eagles with TO are a scary team that can score at any time. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by KillerKingSting on Oct 28th, 2004, 9:44pm I have to admit. if I were T.O., I'd probably act the same way. Hes not getting in trouble outside of football like all these other immature stars are. And he is having FUN with the god-given talents he has. Hes a great WR. And quuite frankly, I like the guy,...........is he perfect? No. Is he in the spotlight in which little nerd-ettes such as ourselves can sit here and pick his character apart piece by piece when really, all he is doing is providing us quality entertainment (IMO) and making his NFL team 100 fold that much better. He may have some character issues but, really, we all do and none of us are perfect. he comes from a different backround than we do most likely, and so, he handles things differently than we do. But he is in not jail, not having rape, burglary, drug, domestic violence etc etc charges brought against him and he has great talent, and he has a bit of a flare to his personality - hey,,,,,, sounds good to me. Hes still quite young (only 30, just BEE ginning to mature really) - give him a chance. Congrats Philly on your favorite NFL team and there succcess thus far into the season. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Oct 28th, 2004, 9:55pm KKS-I read about TO's background. He was raised by his grandmother, very restricted, very poor. Kids used to razz him about how he had better get back to his yard or Grandma would get on his case. As a Raider fan, I can back up Philly. I hated Romo until he became a Raider. Everyone always said that everyone hated Romo when he was NOT on their team and LOVED him when he WAS on their team. Me too. And I really like TO. Warts and all. (Wish he were a Raider!) Like Philly said, how can you not love a guy who gives 100% for your team. Remember how dopey Randy Moss used to be? Remember how he got that together? Every big gun on the football planet called him and helped him out. Maybe TO is starting to get the same treatment from other superstars who know how to mentor. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by KillerKingSting on Oct 28th, 2004, 11:11pm on 10/28/04 at 21:55:55, Callie wrote:
Hey, I am saying I LIKE the GUY. If I put myself in his shoes - I would BEE doing the same thing. Ripping signs, signing footballs after TDs..............Stuff like that might BEE a little out of bounds BUT, quite frankly, as an NFL player, one doesn't just get into the end zone all that often and even the elite such as T.O. must work hard to do so. Once again, I'll say, I think he is a great talent and I LIKE the GUY. ;) |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DUKE0313 on Oct 29th, 2004, 9:40pm Okay, I have T.O. on my fantasy team and I LOVE the numbers he puts up, but...Being from DALLAS, I certainly have NO LOVE for the guy...or any team he's ever played for! I mean, San Fran and Philly...YEEECCCHHH!!!!!!! The guy's very talented, but he's got no class! There's no excuse for that no matter where you come from! [smiley=thumbsdown.gif] |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Oct 29th, 2004, 9:57pm KKS and Duke - This preseason in a live draft league I'm in, one 9er fan who hated TO picked him up early. I was sure that his dial-up modem was crapping out again and he was doing automated drafting. Turned out that he was online, drafting live, drafted him early on purpose, and has been starting him every week. It's a cross-country homer league (we all live elsewhere these days), and he is doing it and beating all the rest of us weekly. Fantasy Football is not about sociology or psychology. It's like the business world at its best - winning without hurting others. And football is football. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DUKE0313 on Oct 29th, 2004, 10:33pm Oh, I agree with you, Cal-Gal. I'd take T.O. on any FF team...I just don't think I'd care to "hang" with him! I prefer players with class. They're adults now and should act like it, and whether they like it or not they ARE role models for the younger generation. Where have all the heroes gone??? ?.?.? |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Oct 29th, 2004, 10:47pm Where have all the heroes gone? O-line, D-line - (for football) - our Finest, our Bravest, our Defenders (for the people who do it). Plus - Anyone who Stands Up, inclulding anyone who goes the distance in spite of having to work through from being at the bottom - at first. Our lucky world is FULL of heroes. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by DUKE0313 on Nov 1st, 2004, 8:19pm Now, I'm a bit embarrassed. Thank you Callie, for reminding me...our world IS full of heroes. I guess when you get old and "tarnished", sometimes one grows more prone to see the black of night than to look around at all the shining stars! Thanks again for the reminder...and remember EVERYONE needs to get out and VOTE tomorrow, it's our future and our America!!! |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Philly on Nov 4th, 2004, 5:35pm Hey everyone... just wanted to let people know that I might not be nearly as active here as usual for a short time. My company was acquired a little over a month ago and on Monday we had a bunch of layoffs - mostly in my department (which boggles my mind since the work my department does is the main reason we were acquired in the first place [smiley=uh.gif]). I survived the cut (naturally!), but now I have a lot more work on my plate because my recently downsized colleagues have no real reason to continue doing it since they are now unemployed. In addition, I'm getting my resume in order and crafting some cover letters while I do some prospecting of my own. The workplace environment has been poor since we got a new director in the spring (she is about as smart as a grapefruit and is making it very difficult to do our jobs and meet our clients' needs) and this recent chain of events has pushed me to the edge. [smiley=drown.gif] So, if anyone is looking for an intelligent hard-worker who is willing to do almost anything (except sales) for a high salary and an internet connection without a firewall blocking this site, let me know! ;D |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by Callie on Nov 4th, 2004, 7:17pm A door closes, a window opens...or sometimes they say another DOOR opens. Either way, you're in the category of "Best," and it will turn out to be the best thing that ever happened to you. Trust me, I know. |
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Title: Re: the Bleachers Post by StegRock on Nov 5th, 2004, 9:54am Jeff, I know you are a hard-working and loyal servant (I know it first-hand from all the dedicated assistance and effort you've given me here, my friend). If you are half as good at your job as you are here with me (which I am sure you are... far in excess), you are an asset any right-minded company should appreciate. As such, in the grander scheme of things, there are no worries. And, with respect to here, do what you got to do, my man. You've surely already built up enough credits (to stay in good favor). [smiley=yes.gif] You know if/when the ribbon gets cut on the FantasyFootballer.com offices someday, you've positioned yourself, well, let's say, "favorably". :) In any event, though, thanks for letting us all know about your situation. Well, with that, as we are now at the end of the fifteenth page of the thread, I am going to lock and drop this "the Bleachers" thread and start a new one. |
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