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(Message started by: StegRock on Nov 5th, 2004, 9:54am)

Title: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Nov 5th, 2004, 9:54am
the Bleachers
If you want to chat about anything under the sun besides football and without its having to be intertwined in a football-related conversation, such as other sports, baby announcements, cooking, pets, politics, economics, religion, philosophy, sex, chicks, books, whatever, etc., etc., as long as it is not covered by one of our other "thematic" threads like the "Happy Birthdays to our fellow Gridironers" thread or the "Get to know your Gridironers" threads, this "STICKY THREAD" is for you!  Enjoy!



Link to the immediately prior "the Bleachers" sticky thread:
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=58;action=display;num=1068119752.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by BarnabyWilde on Nov 11th, 2004, 1:26am
Well, I fly off to Denver on Monday. Walker, you still in the area? Any other Gridironers in the Mile High city?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Nov 11th, 2004, 11:08am

on 11/11/04 at 01:26:52, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Well, I fly off to Denver on Monday. Walker, you still in the area? Any other Gridironers in the Mile High city?


Just be warned that if you make plans with BarnabyWilde, he might have to cancel them because his wife is making him run some errands for her or something.   ;)    [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by BarnabyWilde on Nov 11th, 2004, 1:49pm
Dear Philly,

Eat a bag of shit. You suck.  ;)

(Can anyone name that movie this quote is from?)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by captainpurple on Nov 12th, 2004, 12:56pm
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood     Morning Vietnaaaaaaaaam!


Great flick.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by BarnabyWilde on Nov 12th, 2004, 9:45pm
You da man, Captain!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by GOLF_FREAK on Nov 13th, 2004, 7:03am
walker boh is in the midwest, he only longs for denver

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by BarnabyWilde on Nov 13th, 2004, 2:51pm

on 11/13/04 at 07:03:46, GOLF_FREAK wrote:
walker boh is in the midwest, he only longs for denver



So he tells me.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Nov 13th, 2004, 3:10pm
Me too, me too...  I'll be back that way someday, though... :)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Nov 13th, 2004, 11:44pm
I'll be in Denver in May.  I've only been there once and didn't really get to enjoy the city.  Stayed at a hotel outside the city (near the old airport) and didn't get into downtown.  Since so many of you are familiar with the city, I'll need some tips.

I'll also be in Tucson in three weeks.  If anyone has any thoughts about that city too, they'd be much appreciated.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Nov 23rd, 2004, 7:11pm
Guys,

I just found out that some worthless piece of dung has forged a Yahoo header and is sending out spam that appears to be from me.

Sorry if you were spammed by this low-life.  I have never sold or attempted to sell anything online in my life.  Please ignore the moron creep responsible for the spamming, or better yet, send the jerk's identity to me!  That may or may not be possible, because in at least one instance the idiot must have had my email address in a place that got a "bounce" message to me.  That's how I found out about this.  Still, any help in nabbing the brain-dead creep would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Callie

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DUKE0313 on Nov 23rd, 2004, 8:49pm

on 11/13/04 at 23:44:39, Philly wrote:
I'll be in Denver in May.  I've only been there once and didn't really get to enjoy the city.  Stayed at a hotel outside the city (near the old airport) and didn't get into downtown.  Since so many of you are familiar with the city, I'll need some tips.

I'll also be in Tucson in three weeks.  If anyone has any thoughts about that city too, they'd be much appreciated.


I was born in Tucson, but haven't been back in almost 15 years.
The Desert Museum is pretty cool. It's more of a zoo/arboretum than anything I would call a "museum." The San Xavier Mission is also very interesting and The Old Tucson Movie Studios is a MUST for cowboy/western movie enthusiasts! And if you like to golf, there are a couple of really good courses in town...sorry, I can't recall their names right now. Wish I could tell you something about the "night life", but like I said, it's been almost 15 years. Say hello to "The Old Pueblo" for me and ...ENJOY!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by bgsgfan on Nov 26th, 2004, 1:52am
:'(  :'(  :'(


I had a thread locked! Shame. Humiliation. Me.

It was a good call, I must admit, I just hope I don't get any more "flags".

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Dec 11th, 2004, 3:06pm
Almost out of the woods, fellas...  ALL papers behind me... [smiley=RIF.gif] Just got a couple (not-so-bad) tests on Tuesday, about 8 or so hours worth of study max between now and then, and we're calling it a semester! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] I should be able to be around quite a bit more for the rest of the season after Tuesday of next week! [smiley=footballsmiley.gif] ... [smiley=dancin.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Dec 11th, 2004, 7:23pm
[smiley=cheers.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Dec 14th, 2004, 4:33pm
... or maybe it's [smiley=tired.gif] ,... but still it's [smiley=havinablast.gif] !  Thanks for the cheers, Callie! [smiley=bow.gif] Now we need bigger mugs, though.  How about bottles? [smiley=ragin.gif] ONE SEMESTER DOWN!  All these people around me working furiously...  Me...  Exams finny, no paper extensions or anything like that (like a number of my colleagues [smiley=no.gif] ... [smiley=laugh.gif])! ;D I AM DONE with fall '04... and kicked some serious Catholic U. ass in the process!  You guys got your Steggie back, for four or so weeks at least.

...

And, by the way, Callie, my mom is out of town, and, no, you were not being a busybody at all.  Thanks for the concern. :) My mom says your [smiley=santa.gif] Christmas [smiley=rudolph.gif] lights [smiley=elf.gif] look fantastic.  I'll be back up in NJ soon (in a week or so).  I look forward to seeing them.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Dec 17th, 2004, 4:43pm
One grA-de in!!! [smiley=dancin.gif]

Title: THIS TIDAL WAVE IN ASIA IS STARTING TO HIT HOME!!!
Post by StegRock on Dec 28th, 2004, 1:14am
Oh, my Lord!!!  This is where Gino and I spent our (first) honeymoon (after our wedding ceremony in Korea in July, 2000):

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1530&e=11&u=/afp/asiaquakethailand;

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/361/world/Disaster_strikes_vacationers_i:.shtml;

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/041228/1/3pilu.html;

http://evelynrodriguez.typepad.com/crossroads_dispatches/2004/12/slammed_by_tida.html.

Thousands dead!  What a tragedy!  God bless that part of the world,... please!

As for the personal connection, Gino and I spent 10 days in Thailand, in Bangkok, but mostly on the islands of Phuket and Phi Phi.  Phi Phi holds a particular special place in our hearts.  Yes, it's just simply beautiful...  But, for us, without getting too personal with this, we worked through and resolved a very difficult and serious "issue" in our relationship on Ko (island) Phi Phi.  All we talk about is getting back there someday.  That island has been destroyed. :'(

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jan 3rd, 2005, 12:01am
Guys, this has been a real tragedy.  150,000+ HUMANS, 10's of thousands of CHILDREN, FAMILIES wiped out in one fell swoop, children without parents, parents without children, wives without their husbands, husbands without their wives, MANY MORE casualties, towns and villages GONE from the face of the Earth, OVER 5,000,000 homeless, geography in that part of the world forever significantly altered, food and water scarce...  It cannot be any more obvious that "support" is need and generous spirits NEED to step up.  We are giving... through the following charity:

http://www.catholicrelief.org/home.cfm.

I am providing this link, but I encourage you all to do whatever you can by whatever channels you choose.  As a Catholic (technically,... and a grad student at Catholic U., I suppose), I felt most comfortable with this one.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jan 4th, 2005, 2:22pm
We gave... :)

...

Have any of you guys seen these pictures of these destroyed islands?  These landscapes are FOREVER TOTALLY changed, water where land once was, open seas where there were just inlets... [smiley=no.gif] Puts the "mystery" of Pompei's disappearance in (a) context, huh?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DUKE0313 on Mar 2nd, 2005, 5:49pm
Just wanted to wish a very Happy TEXAS Independence Day  [smiley=cowboy.gif] to one and all!!! 169 years of Freedom and still goin' strong! [smiley=patriot.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Mar 25th, 2005, 11:53pm
Okay, let's get to the REAL tourney... ;)

DU in the hunt AND on the hunt yet again...

http://proxy.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?page=05frozenpicks;

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2017900.

I won't get too crazy yet with the colors and graphics. [smiley=secret.gif] No jinxin'!  For now, I'll just leave it at...

Go DU!  Go DU!  Go DU!



By the way, regarding other Gridironer's alma maters performing well in tourneys going on right now, how about them basketball-playin' lady Scarlett Knights of Rutgers of Philly's?  Good luck, Joysie gals!  By the way, Phil, weren't you on the team? [smiley=hooters.gif] ... [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] ... ;)

...

Addendum:  I want to throw this belated Rutgers shout out to two of my GBRFL Rutgers boyz, DB (undergrad and law school) and Pakman (law school).  I think D too played for the lady Knights. [smiley=titflash.gif] ... [smiley=LMFAO.gif]



I also want to send out some good vibrations to the nephew of one of my good old buds and fellow GBRFLers Doug Owens (dowens11 here), Taquan Dean of the Louisville Cardinals.  I am sure Doug and his family are goin' crazy.  Good luck!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Mar 26th, 2005, 4:35pm
Frozen [smiley=cold.gif] Four update (it's the only hockey we gots)...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/index.

Yikes! [smiley=ohshit.gif] Whew. :P

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Mar 27th, 2005, 4:32pm
Okay, my Pioneers are on a roll now...  We are in the final four!  It's time to break out the goods...

GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif]

For info:  http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/index.

Gotta love the front page sportin' my (alma) "mates".  [smiley=whistle.gif] ... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Skcus Redef 2 on Mar 29th, 2005, 2:27pm
GO DU!

Fellas, more to this story than first reported. DU plays hockey in the WCHA league, whose members this year all represent the Final Four. This is the first time this has EVER happened in the NCAA. FIRST. Plus, two of the top four teams are from Colorado.

DU is the WCHA Champion. Therefore... well I won't say it but it's out there...

There are still two games to be played until the champion is crowned. However, it's nice to know that the WCHA owns the United States when it comes to hockey.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Mar 30th, 2005, 8:38am

on 03/25/05 at 23:53:48, StegRock wrote:
By the way, regarding other Gridironer's alma maters performing well in tourneys going on right now, how about them basketball-playin' lady Scarlett Knights of Rutgers of Philly's?  Good luck, Joysie gals!  By the way, Phil, weren't you on the team? [smiley=hooters.gif] ... [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] ... ;)


Well, the Lady Knights lost to Tennessee in their bid for the Final Four.  Good season by a team of underclassmen.

Let's get the facts straight, Steg.  I was never in any way affiliated with the Lady Knights basketball team.  I did, however, practice frequently with the RU synchronized swimming team (true story).

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Apr 1st, 2005, 9:33pm
On a more somber, serious note (I was impelled to return to school tonight to make this short post)...

A man, who walks the walk in all walks of life, who has stepped up to be a great world leader, and whose humble, gentle and sacred footsteps are so worth walking in, is taking his final steps.  Put all religious differences aside and may all our thoughts and prayers be with Pope John Paul II, Karol Wojtyla, at this, the end of a great life so worth having lived.

Emotions are running high both for me specifically and here at Catholic U.

Feel free to respectfully share your feelings for and thoughts about this great figure of our time...

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DUKE0313 on Apr 1st, 2005, 10:16pm
Yes, I will pray for this great man! I  am a Southern Baptist, but have greatly admired the man since the early years of his "Papacy"(?). God Bless Pope John Paul II!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Apr 4th, 2005, 9:19am
Baseball's opening day is here.  Every year I get a little twinge of excitement and hope, but then something happens to damper it all.

On that note, Phillies fan-favorite Chase Utley, who had a tremendous spring, gets benched for opening day.  Marlon Byrd and Ryan Howard, both of whom had tremendous spring training numbers are sent back to the minors.

Oh well, baseball season in Philadelphia is over already.  Time for football again.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Apr 7th, 2005, 12:56am
[smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif]

Frozen Four game comin' atchyas today (Thursday) at 2:00 p.m. (EST) on ESPN2!!!  We got a Saturday night get-together at Steggie's ridin' on a win here, boyz.  COME ON!!!

[smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by The Juror on Apr 7th, 2005, 2:29pm
Good Luck to DU.  Looking for Back to Back and a belly to belly!!
Hope all is well Steg.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Apr 8th, 2005, 4:59pm
[smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif]

Thanks, TJ a.k.a. KC! ;) Championship game tomorrow night 7:00 p.m. ESPN!!!  Should be a goodie!

[smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by The Juror on Apr 11th, 2005, 9:36am
Congrats on the Frozen Four Championship!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Apr 11th, 2005, 7:06pm
[smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif]

Thanks, KC!  TWO in a row, no less during a year when the NHL was not on ice, or should I say "on ice", [smiley=cold.gif] and the attention of the whole hockey world, at least in North America (granted its modest size), was focused on the NCAA's.  This was a huge year to win it, no less repeat! [smiley=yes.gif]

[smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif] GO DU!! [smiley=havinablast.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by junkyardjake on Apr 17th, 2005, 6:07pm
For those that choose to actively partake in everybodys  favorite legal organized crime-run casino, otherwise known as the US stock market, it could be time to consider moving your funds out of T-bills and get back in.

http://www.vtoreport.com/

Sentiment is reaching very bearish levels (i.e. when everyone says the sky is falling, that's the best time to buy stocks).  Additionally, the historical comparison to 2005, is 1935 (yes, the middle of the great depression), where the market launched into about a 20 month rally for no apparent reason.

(This means that, if history is any guide, and it usually is, the market will turn to crap again in early 2007.)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Apr 21st, 2005, 6:52pm
BIG NEWS FROM THE BIG CHEESE...BALL!!!

Fellas, the moral of the story is to NEVER, EVER give up (on you dreams) and let "them" get ya down...

With wifey-poo's arrival finally on the horizon, she'll be here in May, a HUGE decision confronts the Rock...  After last semester here at Catholic U., I deliberated on whether or not to (re)apply anywhere else.  In the end, I decided to send out just one application.  Those of you who have come to know me here (and followed this whole saga) know where (yea, there, [smiley=stranded.gif] the place that rejected me twice)...  Well, today I, alas, received my vindication, my (overdue, some might say) letter of acceptance into the graduate program of Philosophy at... [smiley=drummer.gif] ...the University of Hawaii!!!  What a haul it's been (as those of you who know know)!!!  I am not even 100% sure I will go.  It is pending a conversation with wifey and mom.  I'd put the chances at about 90%, though (I think it is where I need to study (I will able to study both Philosophy and Korean) and be, on several fronts even including this one actually, in order to fulfill what I believe is my personal, professional, etc., destiny).  All that aside, I just feel such a great sense of accomplishment.  This, as, again, those of you in the proverbial know know, has not come without a serious [smiley=boxer.gif] fight.  I did not let "them" beat me down, though, or get me down on what I want to do with the one life I've been granted.  This has been as "earned" as anything ever will be.  I am on cloud nine, boyz!!! ;D

P.S. (See ya soon, soso!) [smiley=wave.gif] ... [smiley=surfing.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Apr 22nd, 2005, 9:51am
Way to go Steggy.  I love that stick-to-it-iveness of yours.  Congrats on the acceptance.  I hope the decision, in the end, is an easy one.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Apr 22nd, 2005, 5:32pm
Perfect news, Steg!

You've worked long and you've been patient.  Now the ball is 1st & goal.  You deserve that.
                                  [smiley=broncofan.gif] [smiley=graduate.gif] [smiley=broncofan.gif]

So................

Now....you know what we all want next?????


PICTURES!!!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Apr 23rd, 2005, 3:41pm
Congrats Steg!

Glad to see things are going very well for you, good luck with that man! ;)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Apr 26th, 2005, 6:24pm
Thanks, all!  This has been a real triumph!


on 04/23/05 at 15:41:30, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:
Congrats Steg!

Glad to see things are going very well for you, good luck with that man! ;)


But, the million [smiley=money.gif] dollar question is...  Where are you, bro,... in life and at what school, I am guessing?  I am guessing you are doing well overall and partyin' big-time [smiley=boobies.gif][smiley=ragin.gif][smiley=boobies.gif] based on your absence here.  If that is the case, keep up the good work.  But, please, keep us informed.  I, for one, am quite curious. :)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by The Juror on May 6th, 2005, 4:11pm
Good for you Steg.  I am glad the Rainbows came to their senses and goes to show you that if you try hard enough, things will work out in the end.

Liz Cho says HI!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by BarnabyWilde on May 6th, 2005, 7:00pm
Good for you Steve!! I hope everything works out for you.

On another note, I am finally putting the finishing touches on my move. I start my new job in Westminster, Colorado on July 5th, moving my family from Northern California. We are really excited about the new adventure we are about to embark on. I guess I'll be reading Steg's Bronco team reports a little bit closer now!!  :)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on May 6th, 2005, 9:50pm
Westminster, Colorado, huh?  Northwest of Denver, nearing the foothills.  BEAUTIFUL country, bro.  That's why that's where I want to open them FantasyFootballer.com offices. :) Of course, Hawaii may prove to be an intriguing alternative, as well. [smiley=surfing.gif] ... ;) Anyway, wait 'til you get with some dudes and get into a softball league out there, Jim, at "Softball Country" (if that's still what it's called).  Livin' up that way, that's surely where you'll be playin'!

On the "Rainbow Warrior" note, thanks for the kudos, all.  I can't wait.

On the school note, exams are OVER and 108 pages [smiley=howtoput.gif] of papers [smiley=ohshit.gif] have been handed in!!! :P You all can now look forward to a more regular dose of the Stegger on "the Gridiron" (although the summer is going to be quite hectic with wifey-poo's arriving this month and plans for the move to the island in process and, also, I will continue to not have internet access at my place in DC which is where I'll be right up until I leave).  There are some BIG things comin' atchyas this spring/summer, nevertheless!!! [smiley=wiseguy.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on May 11th, 2005, 5:41pm
Guys, you have not been seeing me around much yet because, and I know how pussy this is going to sound, I am trying to recover from a horrible case of carpal tunnel syndrome.  My right wrist/thumb started to pain me back Easter weekend during my first paper and there was just no getting away from typing and writing for the subsequent six weeks.  So, I have been avoiding typing and writing at all costs to get this behind me (because if I don't now, it will linger on forever as I have a lot on the slate here this summer).  I am typing with just my left hand right now; it's a very inefficient use of time.  Hopefully I will be back to my old self [smiley=steg.gif] and plowing ahead again come next week. [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on May 11th, 2005, 5:52pm
Take a good B complex vitamin.  Worst case scenario, it can't hurt.  Don't take B vitamins separately.  And stop eating like a grad student.

If you refuse suppliments, eat foods rich in B vitamins.  (That means eat your veggies, Steggie ;))

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on May 20th, 2005, 8:54pm
Carpal tunnel update... still sufferin' a bit.  It is better, but not better... all-the-way better that is, and now I am back at my part-time job where I am doing web development (side note:  this is a sweet project I am working on; it is for Catholic University's Religious Studies and Philosophy Library; when it's done I'll share it with yas) and, point being, necessarily back behind a computer. [smiley=steg.gif] That is why you guys have seen my presence around here increase just a bit lately...  I'm wearing a brace on my right wrist/thumb and have basically given up (to some degree) on trying to get it better.  I will get in to a doctor, though, when I can catch a few.

Now, the GOOD NEWS,... I am about to spend my last weekend (of this long span of life alone) alone.  Gino, [smiley=smitten.gif] my little sweetheart, [smiley=boobies.gif] eh-hem, [smiley=whistle.gif] arrives on Monday night!  These have been a LOOOOONG 15 months since I last saw her for one lousy month in Korea last February and 29 months overall, and really 5 years since we have been together all of 7 or so months since getting married.  What a reunion it will be?  Don't be surprised if you guys feel the Earth shakin' on its axis Monday night!  I'll be going from busy to... gettin' busy! [smiley=gettinridden.gif] ... ;)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on May 21st, 2005, 6:13pm
Holy yit!  Waiting out Gino's arrival, I'm freakin' out like Cornholio.  Remember... Beavis's alterego when he consumes to much "No Drowse" and whatever other pills.  I am tweakin'! [smiley=gonecrazy.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on May 22nd, 2005, 6:39pm
Okay, amidst all the projects keeping me busy before Gino's arrival in about 49 hours, such as cleaning the apartment, I am affording myself a little diversion here... and in doing so finally getting around to something loooooooooong overdue.

From January '04 during the first leg of that BIG expedition I made last year to Miami, Texas, Hawaii and Korea visiting grad schools and my wife...  Steg and Jim Breuer...

http://www.ffplayers.com/images/BreuerNewark.jpg


For those who want to refresh their memories, you can find the story behind the picture here (third post down):
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=58;action=display;num=1068119752;start=328.

And the much more pertinent one, from last year's Hall of Fame Induction, mom and I with our guy [smiley=Elway.gif] ...

http://www.ffplayers.com/images/ElwayCanton.jpg


GO BRONCOS!!! [smiley=broncofan.gif]

The refresher for that story is here if you are interested:
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=56;action=display;num=1091733810.

...

By the way, get a load of the t-shirt I am wearing in both of the pictures:  "the originial 'the Gridiron'/FFPro.com t"!  I actually gave one to John!  It was wild seeing him departing the Monday night pre-game party (where the picture above was taken) carrying it!  I have a picture of that.  I'll try to remember to scan it in next time.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on May 22nd, 2005, 9:21pm

on 05/21/05 at 18:13:32, StegRock wrote:
Holy yit!  Waiting out Gino's arrival, I'm freakin' out like Cornholio.  Remember... Beavis's alterego when he consumes to much "No Drowse" and whatever other pills.  I am tweakin'! [smiley=gonecrazy.gif]


22 hours to the minute... and counting... furiously... [smiley=gonecrazy.gif]

She is probably checking in at Incheon Airport in Korea right now! [smiley=havinablast.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on May 22nd, 2005, 10:08pm
Congrats on the reunion Steg.  Glad to hear it's finally here.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DirkDiggler on May 24th, 2005, 10:31am
No Steg for a few days.....  His wife must be keeping him busy.

Anyways....I just wanted to say I HATE THIS TIME OF YEAR.  

There is nothing going on.  No pre-NFL draft stuff to read up on, camps really don't start for a few more weeks, all cuts coming June 1st are expected....  no major fantasy news.  It is a very boring time for fantasy football players.  And just to make matters worse, all TV shows are about to go to reruns.  


Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on May 24th, 2005, 10:45am
Better spend some quality time with all those people you'll be ignoring come August  ;D

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by BarnabyWilde on May 24th, 2005, 11:04am
I actually watched the NFL Europe game last weekend. Dave Ragone was playing, and he looked decent. The game was pretty entertaining. Well, for an NFL Europe game anyways.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on May 24th, 2005, 9:40pm
on May 24th, 2005, 11:04 am, BW wrote:


Quote:
I actually watched the NFL Europe game last weekend. Dave Ragone was playing, and he looked decent. The game was pretty entertaining. Well, for an NFL Europe game anyways.


I actually watched a bit of that game, too, BW.  I agree.

Unfortunately, I was paying too much attention to someone I'll be ignoring too much come August   [smiley=angel.gif]

P.S.  How do I get the "Quote" layout right  ?.?.?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by sameoldsameold on Jun 1st, 2005, 2:27am
hey everyone...im starting a midseason fantasy baseball league....if your interested let me know i need alot of players and it will be alot of fun jus message me and ill send you the league code and password.....come and join the fun....it doesnt take much time but the live Online draft is on June 10th at 6:30 EST.....come and join the fun!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 2nd, 2005, 2:22pm
I am SOOO Psyched!  Heading to Vegas tomorrow morning.  I can not wait to hit the tables and sportsbook.  I am looking forward to seeing what the odds are on teams to win their respective championship games.  And what their over/unders are for the season.......  I am thinking Cinncinatti Bengals for AFC .......

I am staying at Binions, so I think I am going to enter a Poker Tourney.  Still debating that though.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Jun 2nd, 2005, 2:30pm
Have fun DD.  Make sure you check out the book at the new Wynn Hotel and Casino... apparently they are still ironing some things out and have some pretty skewed odds.  I had my first (and only) trip to Vegas a couple years ago with some friends and it was a blast.  We had rooms in the Bellagio and Caesars.  I think I played some blackjack at Binion's - the only place I was able to win anything.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 2nd, 2005, 7:34pm
Enjoy yourself, Stevo!  You deserve the break!  You've been working so hard lately.

...

Moving right along,... look, I am all about the kids and all, but does anybody else think that ESPN's coverage of the national spelling bee (as I go visit the on-line Merriam-Webster Dictionary to find out the spelling there... the irony... [smiley=laugh.gif][smiley=hellyeafunny.gif][smiley=LMFAO.gif][smiley=sinister.gif][smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif]) is corny, dumb or at least (grossly) misplaced?  I mean... [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] Shouldn't PBS or some kind of (children's) education channel be all over this, not ESPN?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Jun 3rd, 2005, 7:51am
I guess I find it a bit odd that ESPN, a sports network, is the one who is all over it.  But ESPN is also the network that made poker such a popular game (poker is not a sport either).  So it's probably just a good business decision on the part of ESPN to broaden their spectrum a bit.  The National Spelling Bee is growing in popularity and widespread appeal and I applaud ESPN for taking the reins when, for so long, the Bee was only an afterthought in the World News coverage or the kids' local newspapers and TV news.

By the way, Steg... exactly which word was it that you had to look up?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 3rd, 2005, 8:09am
See, that's the whole thing...  I think the poker shit is dumb too.  However, this is not a hill I am really willing to die on, so... [smiley=shrug.gif]


on 06/03/05 at 07:51:37, Philly wrote:
By the way, Steg... exactly which word was it that you had to look up?


"Spelling bee". [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=sinister.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 12th, 2005, 11:15pm
I'm kind of way late on this.  It's old news at this point.  I kept on forgetting to ask, but I really am curious to see what you guys have to say...  Did any of you see, after the death of George Mikan, Shaquille O'Neal, after their game six (?) victory over the Pistons, say that he would pay for Mikan's funeral?  If you did, what did you think about that?  I,... ... well,... want to hear you guys out first.  I don't want to taint the pool.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 20th, 2005, 12:11am
Nobody responds to my questions on this thread, :-/ but I'll ask another one anyway...  Is it me or does Tim Duncan look like he is throwing this game tonight? [smiley=threed.gif] (Edit:  BUT, how huge is Robert Horry???)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 20th, 2005, 12:27am
Okay...  I'm going to take that back (before anyone really has a chance to respond) because Tim Duncan really is a stand-up guy...  But, he really did play like shit down the stretch.  He even admitted in the TNT post-game interview that this victory was ALL "big-shot" Horry's his teammates'.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Jun 20th, 2005, 9:21am

on 06/20/05 at 00:11:45, StegRock wrote:
Nobody responds to my questions on this thread, :-/ but I'll ask another one anyway


Sorry Steg... you're asking questions about the NBA and you might be the only one watching it.  I have ZERO interest in the NBA playoffs and final.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by BarnabyWilde on Jun 23rd, 2005, 9:36am
Hey guys and gals,

Just to let you all know, I'll be off the "Grid" for about a week. Today, the movers come and empty my home here in California. In a few days, I'll be in Colorado.  It will take a few days to get back online once we are there, around the 1st I'd say.

Take care all!!!

BW

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Jun 23rd, 2005, 9:47am
Hey... good luck with the move!  Hope Colorado suits you.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Tony_O on Jun 23rd, 2005, 3:35pm
Ditto Jim! Sorry we couldn't make it to the BBQ, all of our  families(richie,jeff,myself) were on vacation together. I wish you and your family all the best. I will pray that God will continue to bless you and your family and that his grace will cover you during your trip to Colorado.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Jun 23rd, 2005, 6:08pm
BBQ???  I don't remember getting an invite to Jim's BBQ...   [smiley=fumin.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2005, 7:00pm
Thanks for checking in and updating us, Jim.  Best of luck with the move.  You are moving to God's country...  Well, Hawaii ranks "up there" (double entendre intended) too. ;) ENJOY, brother!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by BarnabyWilde on Jun 25th, 2005, 11:23pm
Thanks guys. I have made it safely and have my computer set up in our hotel room. In a few days I'll be in my new home.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 29th, 2005, 9:29pm
Gino and I are on our way out of DC here within the next 16 or so hours. [smiley=cruisin.gif] Haven't been on-line much over the past 24, won't be for the next 24 or so, either.   Be back on-line with yous when we are back up in Jersey and a bit settled in.  Take care of "things" while bossman is gone. [smiley=wavinbye.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 5th, 2005, 10:21pm
Anybody else dislike/hate "modern art"?  If so, PUT ON ABC's 20/20 RIGHT NOW!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 5th, 2005, 10:34pm

on 08/05/05 at 22:21:51, StegRock wrote:
Anybody else dislike/hate "modern art"?  If so, PUT ON ABC's 20/20 RIGHT NOW!!!


That was AWESOME!!!  That one artist who got fooled by the 4-year-olds' work and was explaining what "tradition" and "style" it was done in looked like such a jackass.  Then, the one who got his back up a little bit and was saying that, in any event, it must have been a very talented 4-year-old.  Meanwhile, it was two little 4-year-old girls.  MORON!

[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=sinister.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 7th, 2005, 11:51pm
WOW!!!  Who'd a thunk it just three years ago?  All three of the big network world news anchors, Tom Brokaw, Dan Rather and now Peter Jennings, gone.  Each from basically the three only ways to go:  Brokaw - retirement, Rather - scandal, and now Jennings tonight - deceased.  I had my bones to pick with Rather and Jennings.  But, still, he was a good man and a good newsman, oxymoron aside.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Aug 8th, 2005, 12:24am
And the wheel goes round and round...but I really love seeing Rather gone and gone...and gone.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Aug 8th, 2005, 9:27pm
I have always been an ABC guy and thoroughly enjoyed Peter Jennings, especially in times of crisis.  I thought his work during 9/11 was phenomenal.  I especially appreciated it because I was away from home at the time and he was the only real familiar face I could turn to.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 9th, 2005, 3:24am
Yas know...  It's something...  The ripple effects of 9/11...  The abrupt fall of the three network world news anchors...  A lot was taken out of Brokaw by the events of 9/11 and all of what subsequently happened, especially since he was sort of the lone conservative-ish voice on the networks, and he retired.  Rather was fired after being embroiled in a post-9/11, 2004-election, anti-Bush scandal.  Now, Jennings blames his return to smoking after having been off cigarettes for 20 years on the stress he endured because of 9/11; it is this resurgent smoking habit that probably exacerbated his cancerous lung situation and cost him his life, moreover, so rapidly.

[smiley=no.gif]

NEVER forget! [smiley=soldier.gif] Don't ignore the dominoes!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by junkyardjake on Aug 9th, 2005, 2:08pm

Quote:
NEVER forget!  Don't ignore the dominoes!


Ummm, right.  Don't forget about the 'Dominos' like Dennis Miller, Judith Miller and Jeff Gannon either ! (With a few more important ones still to come, like Bob Novak and Karl Rove).

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Aug 9th, 2005, 10:59pm
Just in case you check in one more time tonight, safe journey Steg & Gino.  :)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 10th, 2005, 4:22pm
Thanks, Cheryl!  We are right now in Las Vegas Airport.  Internet access in the airports has NOT been as generous as I thought it would be.  See yous tonight, HAWAII time! [smiley=palmtree.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DirkDiggler on Aug 11th, 2005, 1:29pm

on 08/10/05 at 16:22:23, StegRock wrote:
Thanks, Cheryl!  We are right now in Las Vegas Airport.  Internet access in the airports has NOT been as generous as I thought it would be.  See yous tonight, HAWAII time! [smiley=palmtree.gif]



Was it a quick layover in Vegas?  Did you have a chance to get out and enjoy the city?  Hell...did you at least have a chance to enjoy the slots in the airport?

Have a safe trip!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 11th, 2005, 11:08pm
Aloha, everybody!!!  I'm just checking in quickly (unfortunately)...  Gino and I are KNEE-DEEP in dealing with finding a place to live.  But, everything is going well on that front, ultimately.  However, as far as my getting over here..., well,... :-/ it's going to be somewhere between VERY spotty and NOT AT ALL for the next week or so.  Our hotel isn't "wi-fied"; I don't have time in the immediacy to set up my U.H. account and the library is only open until 9 p.m. until the semester commences.  There is one last-ditch thing I am going to try at the hotel tonight, but I am not hopeful.  So, anything I am needed for is either going to have to be put on the back-burner for about a week or dealt with independently (but, whatever it is, please do it in the high-quality manner in which we expect it to be done on "the Gridiron").  Lastly, if someone(s) could link to this message in other areas of the site where it is particularly needed (maybe like on the GBRFL2 board and on the "Huddle" thread "between the 20's"), I'd REALLY appreciate it.  I gotta run (but I'll get a quick pick up)...  Mahalo!

- Steg [smiley=palmtree.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 20th, 2005, 3:31am
Steggie's baaaaahaaaaack...!!!  Gino and I moved in to our new place, our first place together, on Wednesday evening.  It's immaculate, FULLY-furnished and gorgeous and, most importantly, it's a perfect fit for us in almost every single way...  Our prayers [smiley=pray.gif] were answered... [smiley=zenmaster.gif] manifold. [smiley=bow.gif] In VERY short, we, by way of rapid connections we were making, found a place that had not yet been advertised in the papers.  Landlords love it when they can save the time and money that goes into advertising a rental and get someone in immediately.  We got a great deal.  ...  Anyway, I just went about getting internet today, so I'm back up and surfing... [smiley=surfing.gif] the internet [smiley=steg.gif] that is.  Of course, school starts next week [smiley=RIF.gif] ... [smiley=howtoput.gif] and an accompanying part-time job is probably not too far off on the horizon, so... the grind [smiley=dancin.gif] (no, not my old friend Eric Nies's old show... ;) unfortunately) will keep me rather busy.  BUT, for all intents and purposes, we are (not quite yet settled in, but) settling in (for one, I am still awaiting the arrival of my car and shipped stuff).  In any event, fellas, Gino and I couldn't be happier.  We couldn't ask for more from our first abode/adobe (I love the "synchronicity" of those two words).  Over and out... and... ALOHA!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by BarnabyWilde on Aug 20th, 2005, 9:33am
Sounds great Steg! Things are falling into place for you!

Now don't leave us all  [smiley=stranded.gif] get down to the beach while you still have some time and take some pics of some hotties!!!
[smiley=palmtree.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by junkyardjake on Aug 20th, 2005, 9:42am

Quote:
Gino and I moved in to our new place, our first place together, on Wednesday evening.  It's immaculate, FULLY-furnished and gorgeous and, most importantly, it's a perfect fit for us in almost every single way...


Congratulations Steg, best of luck in your new home. 8-)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Aug 20th, 2005, 12:46pm

on 08/20/05 at 09:42:33, junkyardjake wrote:
Congratulations Steg, best of luck in your new home. 8-)


Ditto!  [smiley=yes.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by bgsgfan on Aug 24th, 2005, 9:57pm
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=01;action=display;num=1124284100;start=50


on 08/24/05 at 20:42:11, ghost_of_420 wrote:
sorry to hesrt but certainly understandablethere's never a good time to dissapear but late summer is the worst possible time in our hobby. keep me in mind if another spot opens up but allow me to o fill you all in on my disapearance. april 25th2005, i'm deliveriong a load of meat to detroit,mig there duringerush hour whrn bam!!, i have a stroke. no I'm not talking about wippinhg mr happy out and mastering my domain. i'm talking abouta blood clot goes from the neck to the brain causing my left side to be parsalyzed. well, the good news isd that i somehow got my truck into the median without hurting any body. the even bett news is i've already regined enoughh movement in my lft leg to allow me to walkwith a cane

left armt/hand stil hngin' limp but thre are indicatyors that the doctors look at that still point to a real goo d chnce of gettting some use of it back. you don't really know pain until you turn youirself over yo a team of physical therapiats Love whast thy've been able to do for me to date, but dammn!!!!!!!! they're hard on a guy

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Aug 31st, 2005, 5:37pm
Is there anymore news on ghost?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Sep 1st, 2005, 7:41pm
On yet another somber (to put it mildly) note, how about this Hurricane Katrina?  Have any of you or yours felt or been witness to the impact of this monster?  My heart goes out to the people affected, especially those in New Orleans, who seem to be the hardest hit.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Sep 7th, 2005, 4:01am
Definitely showing the education I am getting in or at least the exposure I am getting to ancient Eastern (political) thought here...  Rather than or, let's just say, besides criticizing George Bush in a "politics as usual" way regarding the wake of Hurricane Katrina, how about someone's asking where the mayor of New Orleans was when the hurricane struck?  Follow...???

[smiley=bow.gif] [smiley=ninja.gif] [smiley=numchuk.gif] [smiley=samurai.gif] [smiley=sumo.gif] [smiley=yinandyang.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Sep 7th, 2005, 8:01am
Honestly, I'm not even paying attention to the hurricane situation any more.  It's just fallen to a level of everyone blaming everyone else (on both sides of the political spectrum) for the disaster.

For every human interest story I encounter -- you know, those heroic stories of self-sacrifice -- I run into 10 others blaming either the president or the governor or the mayor or FEMA or Kanye West for everything that isn't going well.

Maybe my ignoring the situation is wrong.  I made a contribution to the relief efforts.  I'm sure there is more I could do and will probably learn what those things are as they days go on, but for now, I'd rather not hear about it.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Sep 9th, 2005, 9:12am
Was it just me or was the whole Ozzy Osborne thing last nite just a little uncomfortable.

Stones...Cool!

Greenday....Cool!

Santana... no shoes.......Cool!

Oz...........Strange choice!

Picture this.
ABC/NFL planning committee room.

" Ok, then its settled. We will have Bob Kraft work the crowd into a frenzy with his lightning quick wit and personality, followed by Ozzy doing a few drugs and a live version of Crazy Train. Purhaps we can get him to drop an F bomb for water cooler foder tomarrow.  "  

I think they got it backwards. It was supposed to be Ozzy working up the crowd and Kraft singing Crazy Train.

Ps.  For those who recorded it. Check to see if you can make out the shirtless girl tattoo on Ozzys left arm. I didnt record it, however I know there is one there.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DirkDiggler on Sep 11th, 2005, 9:39am
I got it!! I got it!!  I got it!!!

Yep, that is right, I will now be one of the proud few who are able to waste their Sundays at home instead of the bar!  My wife got me the Sunday ticket.

That is now small show of love on her part.  The cost was pretty minimal since we just signed up with Direct TV and they have a major sale.  The love comes in the form of knowing what I am going to be doing the next 17 Sundays.  I will be vegged in front of the TV and I will have many friends coming over to become vegetables in front of the TV.  That is love!!  

On a personal note, I must say my wife really amazes me sometimes.  First she got me an autographed Harold Carmichael jersey(my favorite player growing up. I happened to mention that he and Wilbert Montgomery were my two favorite Eagles.  It was mentioned in a casual conversation about 3 years before she got it.  She actually rememebered.)  And now, unasked, she unexpectedly surprises me with the Sunday ticket.  I had no intention of even asking to get it.    She is a VERY cool wife!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Sep 11th, 2005, 12:48pm
CONGRATULATIONS, Stevo!!!  If she had gone and done this last year, I'd have been over there every damn Sunday!!!  GREAT job, Jen, you little [smiley=redskin.gif]!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Sep 22nd, 2005, 6:26pm
Boy, I heard a GREAT one on the radio coming home today...  I'm going to quote it and add a little commentary...

"Life is about accomplishment, not retirement!"

When you look back at your life, do you want to feel content with and happy about your accomplishments, that you made a difference, perhaps "the" difference, or just content and happy that you are retired, that you made your way to (your) retirement?  It's not that these two are completely unrelated, but they are indicative to two very divergent paradigms of living life. [smiley=zenmaster.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Oct 24th, 2005, 9:13pm
OK.  I'm AFC West.  So I have heard the name of Jeb Putzier pronounced as PUHT-zee-yay.  Then (apparently in January, from what I have read) he decided to change the pronunciation to PUHT-zee-er.  He said the other one sounded too French.

Tonight I heard anouncers saying POOT-zee-er!  Does anybody listen to Bronco games often enough to know where we are at this point?   ;D

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Oakland4life on Oct 27th, 2005, 2:01am
Im with ya Callie.

But, IMO i just pronounce his name PUTZ  as in (PUH-TZ)

[smiley=bigbird.gif] Denver!!!

O4L

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Oct 27th, 2005, 2:07am

on 10/27/05 at 02:01:21, Oakland4life wrote:
[smiley=bigbird.gif] Denver!!!

O4L


Now, now... [smiley=nownow.gif] This Bronco fan has been VERY nice to you...  Let's not ruin it... :-/

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Oakland4life on Oct 27th, 2005, 2:29am
What!!?? [smiley=Elway.gif]


Ahhhh, you and I both know its no fun to poke fun at a loosing team. 8-)

It's still PUTZ though ;D

O4L

Title: Halloween Safety for the kids!!
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 31st, 2005, 12:17am
Each year, more than 650 children are hit by cars and killed and another 20,000 are injured and on Halloween, that number rises dramatically. In fact, children are four times more likely to suffer a pedestrian-related fatality on Halloween than any other night of the year.

To help make your child's Halloween safe, the National SAFE KIDS Campaign recommends taking the following precautions:

[smiley=no.gif] Never let children under age 12 go trick-or-treating or cross the street without the      supervision of an adult on Halloween night.
[smiley=skull.gif] Teach them never to dart out into a street or cross between parked cars.
[smiley=zombie.gif] Decorate costumes, bags and sacks with retroreflective tape and stickers.
[smiley=pumpkin.gif] Use costumes that are light or bright enough to make children more visible at night.
[smiley=ghost.gif]Teach children to walk, not run, while trick-or-treating.
[smiley=vampire.gif] Remind children to stop at all street corners before crossing. Tell them to cross streets only at intersections and crosswalks.
[smiley=checkin.gif] Teach them to look left, right and left again before crossing the street and to continue looking both ways as they cross.

Have fun out there kiddos!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Oct 31st, 2005, 12:32am
Sounds like you are or will be a great parent, MC.  Great post, man!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Oakland4life on Oct 31st, 2005, 12:59am
Yes MC, great post ;D

Fortunately for me, we live on a great street where there is about 4 culdasacs along a 1 mile stretch where there are sidewalks all the way down and back.

So, we only have to cross the street once on our way back  [smiley=smitten.gif]



Thanks for the good advice.

O4L

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Nov 3rd, 2005, 12:16am
Bringing the Confucian philosophy of the "Superior Man" and the Daoist philosophy of "world building" to life (in both senses)... [smiley=yinandyang.gif] ... [smiley=doseofreality.gif]

Parking at UH, like at many universities, is a NIGHTMARE... [smiley=Freddie.gif] (old Freddie's gettin' some serious PT these days, I notice, by the way) On this one side street that is a prime parking area, there is this small stretch of "curbage" right at the head of the street, i.e. closest to school, along which two cars can comfortably park as long as one thoughtless asshole doesn't park smack-dab in the middle of it.  As I pulled in at 7:15 this morning, lo and behold, there was just such a parked car,... but this time there was a dude still in it.  I continued on farther up the road and parked my car... (needlessly 20 yards farther up the road).  As I walked back down the road, the kid was still there in his car; it looked like he was studying.  His driver's-side window was open.  I approached him and said something like "Brother,... I'm sorry to bother you while you are studying, but I just gotta...  Please, I'm begging you to do this...  You know how bad parking is here at UH, right?  ([smiley=yes.gif])  Well, this bit of 'curbage' here can provide for two parking spots as long as people park to one side or the other and don't hog the middle,... and when someone does it's a REAL pisser,... and,... well,... you probably don't realize it, but you are parked in such a manner.  Please, I beg of you, move your car a little up or back."  At this point, he "opens his eyes", in a manner of speaking, looks around and "sees" the case, at which time he responded quite apologetically and, furthermore, seemed grateful that I had "revealed" this "reality" to him.  It's as if I awoke him, even if just temporarily, from an Emersonian sleepwalk.  As I walked away, it was great to look back and see him pull his car up and it was even greater when I walked back out to leave for the day seeing a car parked behind him along this short slice of curbage.  ...  (Put in contemporary parlance...) When asked, "How would Confucius, so concerned with right conduct, deal if he were hanging out with the barbarians in the north," it was responded, "There would be no barbarians." [smiley=zenmaster.gif]

Ask yourself, "How would I have taken what Steg did if I were that guy?"  ...  Ask yourself, too, "How do I park,... ;) ... ;D moreover,... as a microcosmic exemplification of the way I live life?" [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Oakland4life on Nov 3rd, 2005, 12:42am
That is deep man........deep [smiley=touching.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by MordecaiCourage on Nov 3rd, 2005, 2:37pm

on 11/03/05 at 00:16:24, StegRock wrote:
 As I walked away, it was great to look back and see him pull his car up and it was even greater when I walked back out to leave for the day seeing a car parked behind him along this short slice of curbage.


You were lucky he didn't smash your window, key your car, slice your tires, and tell you to get OFF!!! lol  [smiley=laugh.gif]That's probably what would have happened in many places around the globe!! [smiley=annoyed.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Nov 3rd, 2005, 10:31pm

on 11/03/05 at 00:42:44, Oakland4life wrote:
That is deep man........deep [smiley=touching.gif]


I don't know if "deep" and "touching" is the right response to this, O4l,... :-/ unless you're being sarcastic, in which case... [smiley=annoyed.gif]

;)


on 11/03/05 at 14:37:54, MordecaiCourage wrote:
You were lucky he didn't smash your window, key your car, slice your tires, and tell you to get OFF!!! lol  [smiley=laugh.gif]That's probably what would have happened in many places around the globe!! [smiley=annoyed.gif]


Yea,... that's pretty sad that's the way it is in many places...  I don't know if I'd go as far as generalizing to the globe.  I think, vis-a-vis many other places, that belligerent, muscle-head brand of response is quite distinctively American.

...

Anyway, I think the real (good) point to this story is that most people (when they) don't do the right thing (it is) because they don't know what the right thing to do is (read, Emersonian sleepwalk), not that they intentionally strive to do bad.  It's not that human nature is inherently bad (I believe quite the contrary; I agree with Mencius and believe in an innate good human nature, actually; it's just that our American legal system is set up to the contrary; it is founded on an implied mistrust, and people then "adapt" to the system).  It's that people are genuinely lost,... primarily, in America, in them"selves".  Once they see "the way", they cannot help but follow it... and feel good about it...  Again, and I quote...

on 11/03/05 at 00:16:24, StegRock wrote:
When asked, "How would Confucius, so concerned with right conduct, deal if he were hanging out with the barbarians in the north," it was responded, "There would be no barbarians." [smiley=zenmaster.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Oakland4life on Nov 4th, 2005, 12:33am

Quote:
Ask yourself, "How would I have taken what Steg did if I were that guy?"  ...  Ask yourself, too, "How do I park,...  ...  moreover,... as a microcosmic exemplification of the way I live life?"


I guess that is what I was more pertaining too in my comment.  I'm sorry if I made light of your story.

Me personally, would have done just what the parked man did.  Move, and politely apologized.  But quite frankly, I wouldn't have parked in that spot to begin with.


Quote:
it's just that our American legal system is set up to the contrary; it is founded on an implied mistrust, and people then "adapt" to the system).  It's that people are genuinely lost,... primarily, in America, in them"selves".  


Unfortunately, there is ALOT of truth to this statement.  The reason why most Americans are selfish is because of our government.  We are raised from birth to learn how to be independant and do things on our own.  Let nobody stop you.  Then, we become adults, abandon our parents, and fend for ourselves and depend on the government to help us live.

To get a little religious here, "it takes a village to raise a child" it is a statement that is far forgotten in todays society.  But it is true.  If you were to do studies (which Im sure there are somewhere) I'm sure it would reveal that small towns, and suburban societies raise much more social, and moral children then those that are raised in metro areas. Not to say that everyone in Metro cities aren't any of the above.  I'm just talking percentages.

Maybe I'm getting a little off base here, but the bottom line is, the government does not support, or endorse multiple family living.  You look at Mexicans for instance.  They usually have two or three generations living under the same roof.  And you know what.  Every single Mexican I have ever met is hard working, very social, highly religious, and have a solid life foundation.

Just another thought.

O4L




Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Nov 4th, 2005, 11:08am
I think my biggest pet peeve is stupid drivers (some are blatantly stupid, and some just don't pay attention).  Something like that would have annoyed me, although I think you handled it the right way and I think the other driver handled it well too.  Enlightenment to the "way" is key.  It's amazing how much of driving/parking/etc. really is incumbent on a little common sense, and how uncommon that sense really is.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by junkyardjake on Nov 5th, 2005, 9:33pm

Quote:
That is deep man........deep [smiley=touching.gif]


Oaklandforlife, if you really wanted to go the sarcastic route next time, try something like this:

Steg you little drama queen, don't you realize that Confucious was a copious opium-smoking sissy-pants?  When faced with a situation involving insolent punks that take up two parking spaces, nevermind what Confucious would do, you need to ask yourself:

What would The Rock do ?

http://www.junkyardjake.com/images/rock1.gif

Luckily, through his enlightening role as small-town vigilante sheriff Chris Vaughn in Walking Tall, Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson offers invaluable insight into the most effacious way to handle such a situation:

'The Rock' would retrieve his homemade four-foot-long 2-by-4 whoop'n stick from his trunk, then approach the perpetrator:

The Rock - "Hey there Sparky, I know you are busy there reading 'Candy-Ass Illustrated' but I've got two important news items for you - #1, you are taking up two parking spaces and #2, you may want to get those taillights fixed."

Two-Parking-Space-Taking-Candy-Ass-Punk-Bitch- "What's wrong with my taillights ?"

Then this would happen:

http://www.junkyardjake.com/images/rock2.gif

The Rock - "They're broken...."


Disclaimer:  Of course I think the described gesture was both commendable and courteous, I actually also think that Confucious was one of the most important political philosphers in history, this was merely a harmless demonstration of a truly sarcastic reply to one of Steg's metaethical posts...btw Steg, if you are feeling truly virtuous this week, feel free to bench Tiki Barber so you don't whoop my ass too bad in our fantasy league....
[smiley=snowjob.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Nov 5th, 2005, 10:43pm
Oh GREAT, Jake.  Cheating on me AGAIN!  Sure, razzing O4L means he is officially one of us - but HEY...just because I'm hanging in by my fingernails for a heartbeat in CBFL doesn't mean that I'm DEAD yet!

OK.  A woman's revenge....."effacious"????  "EFFACIOUS"????  Did you possibly mean "efficacious"????  (Heh, heh, heh).

OK.  Back to the philosophical stuff.  But that was a very funny post, and I love The Rock.  ;D

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Oakland4life on Nov 6th, 2005, 12:59am
Touche' jake

[smiley=duel.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by junkyardjake on Nov 6th, 2005, 12:44pm

on 11/06/05 at 00:59:58, Oakland4life wrote:
Touche' jake

[smiley=duel.gif]


Oak4Life, this was not meant to insult your ability to be sarcastic.  I'm sure if you really intended to ridicule Steg's parking story, you would have done so.  (I just needed a premise for my stupid analogy.) [smiley=smileytrash.gif]


Quote:
just because I'm hanging in by my fingernails for a heartbeat in CBFL doesn't mean that I'm DEAD yet!


Callie, I noticed you are hanging tough in the CBFL.  Evidently my preseason scoring formula didn't pick up on the later round gems you found.  Leftwich, The Jags Defense, T.J. Housh, Chester Taylor and especially Neil Rackers.  (Who predicted he would be the leagues top kicker ?)


Quote:
....."effacious"????  "EFFACIOUS"????  Did you possibly mean "efficacious"????  (Heh, heh, heh).


Oh is that what I meant ?  [smiley=doh.gif]
It was kindof close, I really should learn how to spell that, it's a pretty cool word.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Nov 6th, 2005, 1:13pm

on 11/06/05 at 12:44:31, junkyardjake wrote:
if you really intended to ridicule Steg.


Mind you, a fine goal... what I want this site to be about... and how I enjoy (my tales "from the heart") being responded to... :-/

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by junkyardjake on Nov 6th, 2005, 2:53pm

on 11/06/05 at 13:13:45, StegRock wrote:
Mind you, a fine goal...


[smiley=bow.gif]  Now that is brilliant sarcasm !

Well done sir !    [smiley=sophisticate.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Nov 7th, 2005, 10:32pm
How IRONIC are these riots going on in France???

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Nov 7th, 2005, 10:35pm
Anything is better than Kimmel these days.  Thank you for an excuse to leave the TV during that.  But if you had asked during the "I like it.  I love it.  I want some more of it." segment, I would have ignored you exactly like the French ignore anything they don't like (to their own ruin, again).

So.  Do you think Kimmel is French?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Dec 20th, 2005, 4:28am
soso, sd, whoever else around here in HI that I don't know about,... with school now out (and grAdes in [smiley=swollenhead.gif]), Gino and I are taking the time to get around Oahu to some of the beaches (and celebrate [smiley=cheers.gif]).  We went to Kailua Thursday and Makaha today.  We're thinking of heading up to North Shore next, sometime next or the following week.  Maybe, Sunset Beach???  What would you guys recommend?  And, when we head up there, since we haven't been up through that way, we plan on taking H-2 through Mililani.  I know that's where Justin is, right?  As such, what are the chances we can arrange it to bump into you two? :)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by sexydexy on Dec 22nd, 2005, 11:46pm
Steg,

I no longer live in Hawaii.  I am currently living and working in Seattle.  Justin does live off the H2...it's on your way to the North Shore from town so that'd be good to get in touch with him.

If you're driving, I'd probably avoid trying to go to Sunset Beach or Waimea.  Parking can be a real bitch at those spots.  I'd say your better bets are Pipeline or Ali'i Beach (which is on the road behind Haleiwa Joe's).  Ali'i Beach is nice because it's a big park and a pretty decent beach.  That part of Haleiwa is usually less crowded than the rest of the North Shore.  I'd imagine you could also try Turtle Bay if all else fails.

Let me know how it goes.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Dec 28th, 2005, 5:15am
First off, thanks, dex, [smiley=thumbsup.gif] for the advisement.  We haven't hit up anywhere else [smiley=palmtree.gif] yet.  I'll let you know...

...

Next, it's two full days Christmas hence, so I feel comfortable getting something off my chest...
[smiley=soapboxer.gif]
Liberal seepage dribbling into the crevasses of our children's minds and our national fabric...  On Christmas, I found myself flicking the TV between the Chicago-Green Bay game and some children's cartoon Christmas movie that I became taken by, Miracle on Third Street.  That was until a classroom scene where the fifth-or-so-grade teacher, the voice of reason of the show, the advocate for the children against the evil principal and his secretary, nonchalantly inserted the following, almost verbatim, in a presentation about Thanksgiving:  "...the humble native Indians gave of their land and harvest to the undeserving European barbarians...  That is what we call Thanksgiving."  This was so subtly, even sneakily, to the point of subversively inserted in by the writers.  It went by so fast... to the hardened adult mind, but was shoved into the supple minds of our language-sensitized children without our even knowing it.  If you don't think that affects the minds of (your) youngsters watching it, YOU'RE NUTS!  Look...  You can't judge one historical period by the moral and ethical standards of another.  That was the time of exploration, circumnavigation, colonization, imperialism, and (western) expansion.  I digress...  On Mongolian money there is still a depiction of Genghis or should I say Chingis Khan.  ...  This national self-loathing and the sneaky infusion of it into our youth has to stop. [smiley=nownow.gif] Okay,... I'll step down... for now...

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by sameoldsameold on Jan 10th, 2006, 1:54pm
Dont Go to Waikiki Beach....that is a lotion ocean....dont know if i am to late on this....But i Would agree with dexter...Ali'i beach is your best option if you need better directions you can always give me a ring and i would gladly give directions.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Jan 11th, 2006, 7:57am
What exactly is a lotion ocean?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Jan 11th, 2006, 11:52am
Sounds to me like a place where tourists put on suntan lotion and lie on the beach.  I guess here on the East Coast it would be about Bennies.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Jan 11th, 2006, 3:18pm
#1 - Is going to a beach (bennie or not) with a lot of greased up bodies a bad thing?

#2 - Shouldn't it be called a "lotion beach" then?  Although I guess it was done for the rhyming effect.

Hey Steg... you'll have to teach those Hawai'ians what it means to go "down the shore".

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Jan 11th, 2006, 3:26pm
Well....since they're on a bunch of islands, shouldn't it be going around the shore?  ;D

Don't mind us, you lucky Hawai'ians (is that the spelling?).  It's winter here.  We're living vicariously through you.
 [smiley=palmtree.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by sameoldsameold on Jan 11th, 2006, 5:02pm
Waikiki Beach is kinda surrounded by a stone wall to protect the tourists...now alot of tourists pack on the suntan lotion and go swimming and the water does not recycle well so basically it is a pool of suntan lotion.  No hawaiian is not spelt with the okina yet hawai'i has a okina('). Don't ask me why. I may be wrong but im 90% sure about that.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jan 12th, 2006, 1:04am
Justin, and I am going to use your "real" name this time,... because,... well,... you (should, at least generally) KNOW where I live, bro...  I had given you directions back in late August when you were planning on coming to my place for the opening Thursday night game (a get-together that... "never panned out" :-/).  ...  My "hometown", so to speak, is WAIKIKI,... the Ala Moana end,... Ilikai Marina...  From my doorstep, I'm no more than 10 minutes from the edge of Waikiki waters.  Of course, I've been...  That's where I always go (that and Ala Moana Beach/Park on occasion)...  Getting around and going elsewhere was kind of the point of my post, right?  And, anyway, I think Waikiki's okay...  Though you are VERY CORRECT about the suntan oil in the water, at least relatively speaking, the sunsets are BEAUTIFUL on Waikiki Beach; there's A LOT going on in Waikiki and it's convenient; there is a TON of eye candy, 8-) and so on.  In any event, even if you forgot the general location of my residence or thought I moved (I hope the latter is the case,... but I did talk to you again in early Novemberish from the same phone number)... ?.?.?, Manoa Valley (as I know you gotta know), where UH sits... and I make "fairly obvious" ;) that I attend, is basically right up behind Waikiki.  Waikiki is going to be my haunt one way or another.  ...  Ultimately, point being, bro,... on so many levels,... not the least of which is that, despite my even PM-ing you (and Dex) on this, this is coming like more than three weeks too late and I am back in school at this point and hitting up the North Shore is not likely on any near horizon, I'm wondering "where you were" on this post...  Anyway,... I hope you're okay.  I know that you were feeling quite under the weather going back. [smiley=sick.gif] But, you know me,... moreover as an aspiring "doctor" of Philosophy,... falling squarely on the list of the kinds of "dis-eases" I am concerned with (helping people confront and overcome), are "attention deficiency" (I choose not to use the "clinical" terminology/acronym) and "absent-mindedness". :-/

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by sameoldsameold on Jan 12th, 2006, 1:58am
I know exactly where you live and i didnt forget...and i dont know why you would say such a thing.  In all honesty i am not in luxury of a computer at all times like some of the more fortunate.  I know it was late but good information is never to late to know...I was trying to help you out...If you dont want help then next time i wont respond...And im sorry i couldnt help in time...well good luck...Have Fun

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jan 12th, 2006, 3:27am
The only "critical-ish" thing I am going to say, soso, is this...


on 01/12/06 at 01:58:03, sameoldsameold wrote:
In all honesty i am not in luxury of a computer at all times like some of the more fortunate.


...  You are being a bit tendentious and "something else" there, friend, but, anyway,...

I'm sorry (if) I hurt your feelings...  You're a good, well-intentioned guy.  I know that...  It's just that I call things the way I see them,... and if God granted me nothing else, he granted me pretty darn good intuition and a knack for critical thinking and real-world (as opposed to strictly mathematical) logical reasoning (I'm really not very smart). [smiley=dunce.gif] And, when I go about using my noggin to call things the way I see them, I almost always do so in a way that is jolting enough to REALLY draw the "attention" of the dude so the point has a chance of "sticking"... and, yet, without stooping to name-calling, mind you (i.e., though it is "directed", it is not personal).  And why?  Because I give a damn.  I want to and I want people (around me) to "think",... i.e. be, in particular, more "mind"ful, "reason"able, "thought"ful, "consider"ate, "sens(e)"ible (regarding the last three, not just in the "fuzzy" senses of the words; that's what the quotation marks are about), aware and mentally tough.  The day I (re)act differently... apathetically, you know I don't give a rat's ass anymore.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by sameoldsameold on Jan 12th, 2006, 3:29am
I jus wish i had even a clue of what you mean....i get so lost reading your posts....

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jan 12th, 2006, 3:34am
[smiley=shrug.gif] That is not something I can help, brother...  If you are going to become a Warrior,... ;)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jan 12th, 2006, 3:50am

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Jan 12th, 2006, 7:16am

Quote:
I jus wish i had even a clue of what you mean....i get so lost reading your posts....



Quote:
That is not something I can help, brother...  If you are going to become a Warrior,...


Let your ole hillbilly uncle Steelkings digress it a little fer ya.

First:

Quote:
...  You are being a bit tendentious and "something else" there, friend, but, anyway,...


tendentious \ten-DEN-shuhs\, adjective:
Marked by a strong tendency in favor of a particular point of view.

This should catch the squirrel by the tail
It seems as if you stood Steg up on an offer to watch a little football on the ole 12 inch big screen at the shack west. He's a little salty, my guess is cuz you were in charge of the Beer! (its juz not right)
I'm figgerin by the attention deficiency remark, you forgot the directions to the house. Steg forgets that guys just cant call for directions. Hence the nite was ruined.

Thats how I see it. Hope I warriored it up good fer ya.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Jan 12th, 2006, 11:26am
Thanks everyone... after all of that enlightened discourse, I finally know what a "lotion ocean" is.   [smiley=sunny.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by sameoldsameold on Jan 12th, 2006, 12:28pm
If that is what is all about then it is even more "men"tal then i thought....salty balls have no place except in south park....The reason i couldnt go was the game started later then we thought as it was on Delay in Hawaii which meant if i came i would not have a Bus ride home...I Do not drive so therefore bus is my main transportation....So him being salty over that wouldnt make any sense....but if he is i never heard from him again with another offer....the first offer was mine and if i didnt hear a response then he must not have been too interested in it in the first place....

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jan 12th, 2006, 8:10pm
First of all, you have been WAY MISLED by sk's post, soso.  First off, the definition offered by sk is a watered-down, simplified one (mind you, very similar to the one in The Oxford Dictionary and Thesaurus (American Edition), surely a good source).  (But) It does not capture the full weight of the word, which involves purposefully leaving information out to support an agenda.  ...  But, anyway, enough of that.  We talked enough by private-message last night to know where things stand between us, I think.

The moral of this story is going to be that while sk is sometimes good at getting my modus operandi specifically with regards to (molding) "the Gridiron" (like with respect to donations), NEVER go by sk's psychological analysis and interpretation of my "frame of 'mind'" when it comes to these types of discussions lest you run the risk of getting taken down a TOTALLY WRONG path.  You in part did.  Besides the general inherent problems with putting words in a person's mouth, thoughts in a person's mind, a) he oftentimes is just being playful and stirring the pot (I think... hope that is largely the case here), and b) he has his own baggage (both in his personal life like we all do, which I do not know about, and here, which I do), which may bleed/often bleeds into his interpretation(s) of me.  But, you did unfortunately entertain it and it unfortunately evoked a reply from you, the "spirit" of which, especially the last sentence, was, let's just say, icky, ultimately unnecessary (to have even considered) and counter-productive.  In any event, this was for you to reflect on, not him to reflect on for you.  Since he did and you entertained it, I now have to spell it out more than I want to get you back at least on the right track.  The "attention deficiency" comment was actually NOT AT ALL the main one.  The "absent-minded" comment was.  You can get there yourself if you think it (ALL of the dealings we have had, not just kickoff Thursday) through.  And, kickoff Thursday is only a VERY minute piece of the puzzle.  That said, just as an example, all of the factors you present regarding why you couldn't come that day do NOT excuse you from the courtesy of affording me a call,... which not only did you not do that night, but never was going to do (the next time we spoke was when I contacted you in November regarding the Redskins report).  Mind you, I also did not call you that day...  Why would that be?  The fact of the matter is that it was a blessing that you did not come.  Week One kickoff is usually a nightmare for me.  I am up to my eyeballs with fantasy football and web site work, and that Thursday, though I was hoping otherwise (because I thought you were coming), wound up no different.  If you had come, though I and my wife would have done our best, I wouldn't have been the best host.  So, the instincts of your response were correct.  That's NOT "it"! (in both of the senses that can be read)  But, then, that last statement of yours, soso,... well,... its insinuation is uncool.  After that Thursday, Gino and I continued the extreme process of settling into BOTH life after this looooong-ass, complicated move to Hawaii AND our lives (finally) together (as husband and wife), school cranked up, work kicked in, and all of a sudden I didn't have time to sniff my asshole.  I only ONE time ALL semester (and to this day for that matter) got together with a friend from school and that was only for four or so hours on a Sunday afternoon.  So, anyway, that comment you make in your last sentence there does not just go both ways, brother, it more so falls back on you as it surely wasn't I who owed you an invite or a phone call.  Quite the contrary, no?  So, if you say that of me, you have to say it twofold of youself.  But, again, don't take this so hostilely.  I like you,... period.  You're not a bad kid.  I know that.  Just, and this is the WHOLE POINT,... THINK IT, that, this, everything, THROUGH!!!!!  Furthermore, the irony here is that sk, going back in time, is someone who, rightfully so, mind you, contacted me about the negative impact of the team reports not being done in a timely fashion,... which (de facto) mainly meant yours.  ...  So,... here I am trying to get you to reflect on... "bigger picture"... and this guy... who does have some understanding of my m.o. here and what it takes to make the site good,... but getting this ALL bass-ackwards...  ... [smiley=no.gif] I can only write this in fragments...  Follow???

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jan 13th, 2006, 12:43am
"AS the world turns....so do the days of our lives"  :D I love coming to the Gridiron, I always get a kick out of the "happenings" of da' world! This crap is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than TV!!!! ;)

Disclamer
This post is for the sole purpose of amusing myself. Any similarities in the term referenced as crap and real crap is purely coincidental. :-X

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jan 13th, 2006, 1:07am

on 01/13/06 at 00:43:32, MordecaiCourage wrote:
This crap is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than TV!!!! ;)


I truly hope your enjoyment of it is not just qua "amusement".  There is something more to "get"... out of it all,... and that is where I think the greatest enjoyment is to be had.  To view this stuff with (just) a mere "chuckle at" attitude vis-a-vis keen discernment is to merely remain at the surface, not extract all there is to "get"... out of it and miss the true depth of it all. :-/ Not everything in (passing) time has to be fun and games (and after all we get enough of that here).  It can't be if you really want to forge substantive "real" friendships... whatever the venue, and the evidence I've seen points to your being the type of person who wants to.  Anyway, if you are getting some of the depth of it all, then great.  Your comment is VERY well received. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] However, if you were, I would think that you would NOT be inclined to use this smiley... [smiley=gimmeabreak.gif] as your message icon. :-/ ... [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Jan 13th, 2006, 7:02am
phi·los·o·pher    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (f-ls-fr)
n.
1. A student of or specialist in philosophy.
2. A person who lives and thinks according to a particular philosophy.
3. A person who is calm and rational under any circumstances.

No# 3 is a bit of a stretch


Quote:
Disclamer
This post is for the sole purpose of amusing myself. Any similarities in the term referenced as crap and real crap is purely coincidental.  

This disclaimer should have been at the bottem of post 131 as well.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DirkDiggler on Jan 13th, 2006, 7:46am

on 01/13/06 at 01:07:18, StegRock wrote:
I truly hope your enjoyment of it is not just qua "amusement".  There is something more to "get"... out of it all,... and that is where I think the greatest enjoyment is to be had.  To view this stuff with (just) a mere "chuckle at" attitude vis-a-vis keen discernment is to merely remain at the surface, not extract all there is to "get"... out of it and miss the true depth of it all. :-/ Not everything in (passing) time has to be fun and games (and after all we get enough of that here).  It can't be if you really want to forge substantive "real" friendships... whatever the venue, and the evidence I've seen points to your being the type of person who wants to.  Anyway, if you are getting some of the depth of it all, then great.  Your comment is VERY well received. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] However, if you were, I would think that you would NOT be inclined to use this smiley... [smiley=gimmeabreak.gif] as your message icon. :-/ ... [smiley=shrug.gif]



Philosophy and the meaning of smileys.......gotta love it.  


Quote:
This crap is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than TV!!!!  
  [smiley=yes.gif]


[smiley=assinface.gif]




Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jan 13th, 2006, 10:55am

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jan 13th, 2006, 11:52am

on 01/13/06 at 01:07:18, StegRock wrote:
I would think that you would NOT be inclined to use this smiley... [smiley=gimmeabreak.gif] as your message icon. :-/ ... [smiley=shrug.gif]


I don't really pay attention to what each smiley means..I just like the little blue guy shaking his head!! Maybe I should have used one of these instead[smiley=shiteatingrin.gif] [smiley=wiseguy.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=gonecrazy.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] That's why I added the Disclaimer ;)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by sameoldsameold on Jan 13th, 2006, 1:59pm
pass :P

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jan 16th, 2006, 3:22pm
I think, to see my part in the dialogue above in the right light, it is important to make explicit that for good people I do not think irresponsibility is intentional, so...

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jan 22nd, 2006, 9:12pm
Didn't know where to post this, so here it is... [smiley=shrug.gif]

What a CRAPPY couple of Conference Championship games, huh???  I hope the Super Bowl doesn't play out like either of these games,... a "real" concern as it so often does!!! :-/

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Jan 23rd, 2006, 9:42am
Hey Steg... any chance that you were one of the couple dozen people who attended the Hula Bowl this past weekend?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jan 23rd, 2006, 9:51am

on 01/22/06 at 21:12:29, StegRock wrote:
Didn't know where to post this, so here it is... [smiley=shrug.gif]

What a CRAPPY couple of Conference Championship games, huh???  I hope the Super Bowl doesn't play out like either of these games,... a "real" concern as it so often does!!! :-/


Steg..I think we are in for a TRUE CLASSIC [smiley=yes.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by MordecaiCourage on Feb 13th, 2006, 2:53pm
Well ladies and gentlemen [smiley=cruisin.gif].......Ya' wont be seein' too much of ole MC in the next couple months. This is the time of year my Little League Baseball addiction  [smiley=gonecrazy.gif] roles around. Got 3 little stooges   [smiley=stoogecurly.gif]  [smiley=stoogelarry.gif] [smiley=stoogemoe.gif] heavily involved, and as always I'ma coachin' the rascals. I'll check in on ya'll when I can...but experience tells me I'm gonna be s---t---r---e----c-----h---------e-------d thin until just after ALL-Stars at the end of June. (Maybe longer if we get the trip to Williamsport this year!!) [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif]

I want to thank all of you for making my first full year here at the Gridiron memorable. Hope ya'll enjoyed my team specific reports and my various posts. I enjoyed getting to know ya'll better through the forums and private messages. Look for MC to be back heavy in the mix come late Summer or early Autumn. Like I said...I'll drop in on ya' and see what's shakin' when I can....I'm audi here[smiley=audi.gif]


[smiley=fireman.gif] [smiley=wavinbye.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Feb 13th, 2006, 9:08pm
Good luck on you all's quest to Williamsport, MC! [smiley=waitinforu.gif] ... ;) It has been a pleasure getting to know you over the last number of months, as well, my friend! :)

Also, a bit of a side note, do be on the occasional lookout for my eventual response on the "politics" thread.  I've been poking my head in there from time to time.  I just do NOT have the time right now to respond the way I want... :-/ need to, even considering the Ockham's razor I like to carry. :D I'm not anticipating all too long of a response [smiley=whistle.gif] (we'll see), but it will be "sharp", "pointed" and not convoluted.  Anyway, the point being, you are not alone in your sentiments, MC, [smiley=patriot.gif] even though it might have seemed that way. :-/

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Feb 14th, 2006, 3:07pm
Im thinking of dipping my hat into the world of fantasy baseball. Does anyone know of a good (free) place to play? I dont know if its my cup of tea yet and I'd like to play once before getting serious about it.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Feb 14th, 2006, 3:15pm

Quote:
considering the Ockham's razor I like to carry.



Uncle Steelkings learn-ed moment
;)

http://phyun5.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_www/node10.html

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 14th, 2006, 3:26pm

on 02/14/06 at 15:07:31, steelkings wrote:
Im thinking of dipping my hat into the world of fantasy baseball. Does anyone know of a good (free) place to play? I dont know if its my cup of tea yet and I'd like to play once before getting serious about it.



Walker Boh and I are in a league that may have an opening or 2 SK. Let me know if you are interested. It's not free though.  [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by junkyardjake on Feb 14th, 2006, 3:31pm

Quote:
Im thinking of dipping my hat into the world of fantasy baseball. Does anyone know of a good (free) place to play? I dont know if its my cup of tea yet and I'd like to play once before getting serious about it.


Steel, I would use Yahoo for free fantasy baseball leagues, they are the most reliable, and probably the most popular:

http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/b1

(You of course need to have a 'My Yahoo' account, which you can set up in 5 minutes).  

[smiley=numchuk.gif]
(Oh cool, an asskicking numchuck smiley, My new favorite !)

Title: Must read,HILARIOUS
Post by kidcrash on Feb 24th, 2006, 7:06pm
Recently, a visiting Minnesotan was honored as he was selected to be a
fill in judge at a Texas chili cook-off. (The original person called in
sick at the last moment).  This Minnesotan happened to be near at the
judge's table next to the Lone Star Beer Truck drinking beer, when he
was assured by the other two judges (Native Texans) that the chili
wouldn't be all that spicy.  They told him he could have free beer
during the tasting, so he accepted.
Here are the scorecard notes from the event:



CHILI # 1 - MIKE'S MANIAC MONSTER CHILI...

Judge # 1 -- A little too heavy on the tomato. Amusing kick.

Judge # 2 -- Nice, smooth tomato flavor. Very mild.

Judge # 3 (Minnesotan) -- Holy shit, what the hell is this  stuff? You
could remove dried paint from your driveway. Took me two  beers to put
the flames out. I hope that's the worst one. These Texans  are crazy.

CHILI # 2 - AUSTIN'S AFTERBURNER CHILI...

Judge # 1 -- Smoky, with a hint of pork. Slight jalapeno tang. Judge #
2 -- Exciting BBQ flavor, needs more peppers to be taken seriously.

Judge # 3 -- Keep this out of the reach of children. I'm  not sure what
I'm supposed to taste besides pain. I had to wave off  two people who
wanted to give me the Heimlich maneuver. They had to  rush in more beer
when they saw the look on my face.

CHILI # 3 - FRED'S FAMOUS BURN DOWN THE BARN CHILI...
Judge # 1 -- Excellent firehouse chili. Great kick.

Judge # 2 -- A bit salty, good use of peppers.

Judge # 3 -- Call the EPA. I've located a uranium spill.
My nose feels like I have been snorting Drano. Everyone knows the
routine by now. Get me more beer before I ignite. Barmaid pounded me on
the back, now my backbone is in the front part of my chest. I'm getting
shit-faced from all of the beer.

CHILI # 4 - BUBBA'S BLACK MAGIC...
Judge # 1 -- Black bean chili with almost no spice. Disappointing.

Judge # 2 -- Hint of lime in the black beans. Good side dish for fish or
other mild foods, not much of a chili.

Judge # 3 -- I felt something scraping across my tongue, but was unable
to taste it. Is it possible to burn out taste buds? Sally, the beer
maid, was standing behind me with fresh refills. That 300-LB woman is
starting to look HOT...just like this nuclear waste I'm eating! Is chili
an aphrodisiac?

CHILI # 5 LISA'S LEGAL LIP REMOVER...
Judge # 1 -- Meaty, strong chili Cayenne peppers freshly ground, adding
considerable kick. Very impressive.

Judge # 2 -- Chili using shredded beef, could use more tomato. Must
admit the cayenne peppers make a strong statement.
Judge # 3 -- My ears are ringing, sweat is pouring off my forehead and I
can no longer focus my eyes. I farted and four people behind me needed
paramedics. The contestant seemed offended when I told her that her
chili had given me brain damage. Sally saved my tongue from bleeding by
pouring beer directly on it from the pitcher. I wonder if I'm burning my
lips off. It really pisses me off that the other judges asked me to stop
screaming. Screw those rednecks.

CHILI # 6 - VERA'S VERY VEGETARIAN VARIETY...
Judge # 1 -- Thin yet bold vegetarian variety chili Good balance of
spices and peppers.

Judge # 2 -- The best yet. Aggressive use of peppers, onions, and
garlic.
Superb.

Judge # 3 -- My intestines are now a straight pipe filled with
gaseous, sulfuric flames. I shit on myself when I farted and I'm
worried it will eat through the chair. No one seems inclined to stand
behind me except that Sally. Can't feel my lips anymore. I need to wipe
my ass with a  snow cone.

CHILI # 7 - SUSAN'S SCREAMING SENSATION CHILI..
Judge # 1 -- A mediocre chili with too much reliance on canned
peppers.

Judge # 2 -- Ho hum, tastes as if the chef literally threw in a can of
chili peppers at the last moment. **I should take note that I am
worried about Judge # 3. He appears to be in a bit of distress as he is
cursing uncontrollably.

Judge # 3 -- You could put a grenade in my mouth, pull the pin, and I
wouldn't feel a thing. I've lost sight in one eye, and the world sounds
like it is made of rushing water. My shirt is covered with chili, which
slid unnoticed out of my mouth. My pants are full of lava to match my
shirt. At least during the autopsy, they'll know what killed me.
I've decided to stop breathing it's too painful. Screw it; I'm not
getting any oxygen anyway. If I need air, I'll just suck it in through
the 4-inch hole in my stomach.

CHILI # 8 - BIG TOM'S TOENAIL CURLING CHILI...

Judge # 1 -- The perfect ending, this is a nice blend chili. Not too
bold but spicy enough to declare its existence.

Judge # 2 -- This final entry is a good, balanced chili. Neither mild
nor hot. Sorry to see that most of it was lost when Judge #3 farted,
passed out, fell over and pulled the chili pot down on top of himself.
Not sure if he's going to make it. poor feller, wonder how he'd have
reacted to really hot chili?

Judge # 3 - No Report  


Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Feb 24th, 2006, 10:38pm
Funny stuff, Crash!   ;D

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by MordecaiCourage on Mar 9th, 2006, 10:53pm
H O W D Y

[smiley=fireman.gif]  [smiley=wave.gif] Jus' checkin' in

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Mar 20th, 2006, 7:14pm
Steve and Jen Warner,... CONGRATULATIONS on your George Mason Patriots!!!  Sweet Sixteen... is hopefully just the "beginning" of this fantastic run!!!  I'm rootin' for yous!!!
[smiley=cheerleader.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 20th, 2006, 8:59pm

on 03/20/06 at 19:14:16, StegRock wrote:
Steve and Jen Warner,... CONGRATULATIONS on your George Mason Patriots!!!  Sweet Sixteen... is hopefully just the "beginning" of this fantastic run!!!  I'm rootin' for yous!!!
[smiley=cheerleader.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif]


Thanks Steg!!  We are totally psyched.  In a bazillion years we never would of thought they would do that well.  

The great thing is that it is making a name for George Mason.  Who out there has ever even heard of George Mason besides people in Virginia!!!

GO MASON!!!!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Mar 25th, 2006, 12:55am

on 03/20/06 at 20:59:20, DirkDiggler wrote:
Thanks Steg!!  We are totally psyched.  In a bazillion years we never would of thought they would do that well.  

The great thing is that it is making a name for George Mason.  Who out there has ever even heard of George Mason besides people in Virginia!!!

GO MASON!!!!!!


G - M - U!!!  G - M - U!!!  G - M - U!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 25th, 2006, 3:25am
I love the Cinderallas, but their run ends now.


GO UCONN!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 25th, 2006, 7:28am

on 03/25/06 at 03:25:25, BarnabyWilde wrote:
I love the Cinderallas, but their run ends now.


GO UCONN!!


I actually went to the games last night.  Got to see Mason whip up on Wichita State and U Conn beat U Dub.  Unbelievable evening.  From total happiness in watching Mason win to disbelief when the UW player stole the ball in the final second just to give the ball right back to UConn.  


To be honest, everyone is ecstatic that Mason made it to the elite 8.  That is unbeleivable.  To think they even had a prayer against UConn would be unrealistic.   However, you gotta celebrate what Mason has accomplished.  They truly have given Mason a national name.  And if they were playing any other team in the elite 8, they would probably have a chance.  But UConn is too damn good.....  With that said.....

GO MASON!!!!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Mar 25th, 2006, 1:47pm

on 03/25/06 at 03:25:25, BarnabyWilde wrote:
I love the Cinderallas, but their run ends now.


GO UCONN!!


Awwww,... come on... [smiley=no.gif] Did you or someone VERY close to you graduate from or at least attend UConn???  We actually got a Gridiron Brother here who graduated from George Mason, still resides right down the road.  Please don't tell me it's because of some bracket contest you are hoping to win. [smiley=gimmeabreak.gif] Unless it's for some insane amount of money AND this game can make-or-break you, please don't tell me you are rooting for "cold, hard" cash over the warmth of friendship... :-/ This is precisely what's going wrong with "the (increasingly ugly) American way". :'(

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 25th, 2006, 2:17pm
Not that it is anyone's concern, but:

1. I grew up in Connecticut for the first 14 years of my life. It is my home. All of my family lives there. My brother is buried there, as are all 4 of my grandparents.
2. My first cousin graduated from UConn.
3. I love Coach Calhoun, he runs a great program and has for years.


I think that is good enough.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Mar 25th, 2006, 8:16pm

on 03/25/06 at 14:17:31, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Not that it is anyone's concern...


OH, BUT it is...  That's opening up...  That's "real life"!  Don't get your back up...  Just let people know... rather than remaining in the matrix of Emersonian sleepwalkers never touching and avoiding being touched by those around them, never framing their lives so that others can make sense of it all.  I know the Vacaville, Cali and now (Northglenn?) Colorado Jim.  I kind of forgot the Jim connected to Connecticut.  He seems to be more in the background.  But, for forgetting that, I apologize. :-[ I did know that.  And, good luck to you and your family rooting for UConn...  I'm going to stick with George Mason as I find Steve's connections thereto to be quite a bit stronger and more direct.  Go MASON!!!  But, if not, good luck to UConn in the Final Four... [smiley=twothumbsup.gif] I like both of yous, so it's win-win... :) But,... right now,... go Mason!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 25th, 2006, 8:31pm
I wasn't getting my back up. I was just responding to your post that I root for UConn so I can "win my bracket." That is not the case, which you clearly forgot about. No biggie. I will root for the Huskies. If they do in fact lose to a very talented GM team, I will pull for Mason to win it all too. I'd love to see an #11 seed win the entire tourney. That would be awesome. And it's Broomfield, not Northglenn. :)

As far as my bracket goes, all I have left is UConn and 'Nova.  :(

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Mar 25th, 2006, 8:39pm

on 03/25/06 at 20:31:39, BarnabyWilde wrote:
If they do in fact lose to a very talented GM team, I will pull for Mason to win it all too. I'd love to see an #11 seed win the entire tourney.


...moreover, a school who one of our living, breathing members and, moreover, friends, Double D a.k.a. Steve Warner, is an alumnus of!?!?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Mar 26th, 2006, 4:28pm
For what it's worth... I'm pulling for Villanova to win it all.  (And no, my bracket had Duke going the distance.  [smiley=shrug.gif] )

Let's go Nova!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Mar 26th, 2006, 4:49pm

on 03/26/06 at 16:28:48, Philly wrote:
For what it's worth... I'm pulling for Villanova to win it all.  (And no, my bracket had Duke going the distance.  [smiley=shrug.gif] )

Let's go Nova!


What's your affiliation?  Rootin' for the local school, I'm guessing!?!?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Mar 26th, 2006, 5:11pm
CONGRATS, Stevo!!! [smiley=woohoo.gif] Sorry, Jim... :-[

This is somethin' else...  You MUST be SO PROUD, Stevo!!!  Go Mase!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 26th, 2006, 8:31pm

on 03/26/06 at 17:11:23, StegRock wrote:
CONGRATS, Stevo!!! [smiley=woohoo.gif] Sorry, Jim... :-[

This is somethin' else...  You MUST be SO PROUD, Stevo!!!  Go Mase!!!


Thanks Steg!!  It is friggin amazing!!!  My whole family is psyched.  My wife and I went there, my brother in law went there(and getting is masters there), my mother in law went there for grad school, and my future sister in law graduated from the law school.  (She is the one I went to the game with on Friday)  Not to mention, my four year old is totally pschyed.  Actually watched the whole game with me and the family.

It is undescribable how we feel.  Disbelief mixed with total joy is probably the best statement.  How the hell did Mason make it to the final.  Beat a MVC team, Big East Team, ACC team, Big 10 team, and now, they play the SEC.......

GO MASON!!!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 26th, 2006, 10:54pm
UConn deserved to lose. They were the most talented team in the tourney, and the deepest, but every game, there were spurts where they looked like they were lost. I mean, each contest was a nail biter. Albany? Kentucky? Washington?  All of them were well below the talent level of UConn, but the Huskies seemed to play without focus. George Mason was the better team today, and so far from what they have accomplished, beating the #4, 3, 7 and 1 team in their bracket, they deserve to win it all.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Mar 27th, 2006, 12:03am

on 03/26/06 at 16:49:54, StegRock wrote:
What's your affiliation?  Rootin' for the local school, I'm guessing!?!?


Fell in love with Nova during their 1985 run through the NCAAs.  Since then I've gotten to know a number of Nova alums and I keep cheering for them.  Jay Wright is a class act and has really turned the program around after their lean years with Steve Lappas at the helm.

Unfortunately, the current Nova team relies on their shooting with their 4-guard lineup.  The shots wouldn't fall today and it killed them.  Now I'll start cheering for the underdog GMU squad.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Apr 23rd, 2006, 3:33am
Really interesting piece laying on "The REAL Feed" that I did not know where to put,... so here it is: [smiley=shrug.gif]

13 markets, one comparison (http://www.startribune.com/503/story/385678.html)
StarTribune: Sports (23.04.2006 02:24)
There are 13 markets that have teams in each of the four major professional sports. A look at how those teams did this year and what championships they have won since the Twins gave Minnesota its last title in 1991.


NEW YORK


Metro population rank: 1

2005-06 results


MLB: The Ya...

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on May 11th, 2006, 5:34pm
More [smiley=footballsmiley.gif]-related talk in "the Bleachers"...  When in doubt,... put it here...  From "The REAL Feed":

Ford pleads guilty to shooting at Siegfried & Roy home (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2441637&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (11.05.2006 17:00)
Groomed and polite, a former NFL kicker who has been hospitalized for mental illness pleaded guilty Thursday to shooting at the home of entertainers Siegfried Fischbacher and Roy Horn in 2004.


You guys know about this story??? [smiley=gonecrazy.gif] YIKES!!! [smiley=yikes.gif] You never know, huh?  There but for the grace of God go I, huh?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on May 11th, 2006, 5:54pm

on 05/11/06 at 17:34:47, StegRock wrote:
More [smiley=footballsmiley.gif]-related talk in "the Bleachers"...  When in doubt,... put it here...  From "The REAL Feed":

Ford pleads guilty to shooting at Siegfried & Roy home (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2441637&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (11.05.2006 17:00)
Groomed and polite, a former NFL kicker who has been hospitalized for mental illness pleaded guilty Thursday to shooting at the home of entertainers Siegfried Fischbacher and Roy Horn in 2004.


You guys know about this story??? [smiley=gonecrazy.gif] YIKES!!! [smiley=yikes.gif] You never know, huh?  There but for the grace of God go I, huh?


What is it with Raider kickers?   ;D

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on May 22nd, 2006, 11:32pm
The internet age...  Holy Craigslist.com rules!  I just put a listing up today for the place Gino and I are trying to get out from under so as to get up more toward UH and get cheaper rent, and within like, I kid you not, 45 seconds of submitting the listing I get a phone call.  Here within only like four hours and we already got a bunch.  Anyway, since you all are my homies and as the deal really is INCREDIBLE, I would feel remiss not letting you all at least know about it.  If any of you are or know someone who is in a position to take an extended vacation this summer (teachers), haven't sured up any plans and have always wanted to visit Hawaii, this opportunity is really once-in-a-lifetime.  As we're just looking for someone to finish out the last two to three months of our one-year lease, whoever gets this place is getting a short-term summer rental for the monthly rent of a long-term lease.  Three-month leases for fully-furnished units in the building we are in go for 50% to double the rent.  It's a dream.  I'm just throwing it out there...  Some of the guys who are from Hawaii can attest to this being a hot vacation spot and nice location overall.  Here's the listing:

http://honolulu.craigslist.org/apa/163626264.html. [smiley=palmtree.gif]

Title: Roger Maris & his *
Post by Drew Rosenhaus on May 30th, 2006, 3:53pm
On the way to work this morning, switching stations, I heard this conversation. They are talking about getting a petition to MLB to at least "demonstrate" against the current state of baseball.

Anyway, thought it might be interesting for the GRID:

http://www.giveitbacktomaris.com

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 6th, 2006, 7:41pm
I am going to try to be as tactful with this as possible for fear of treading on people's over-the-top modern-day PC sensibilities...  On PTI today, I listened to Tony Kornheiser say that he looks forward to Michelle Wie's breakthrough on the men's tour whenever it happens because "it will show girls that they can compete with men".  But, it won't.  It will only show that golf is a game requiring physical and mental attributes such that exceptionally talented female golfers can compete with professional male golfers.  It doesn't say that if more girls pick up the sport, which is what Kornheiser's suggestion is, droves of women, moreover, equaling that of men, will flood the PGA, no less find themselves more competitive at sports "in general" with men.  Laying aside issues like the negative impact this trend could have on women's leagues like the LPGA or women's teams, this movement toward "gender sameness", to the point of "role reversal", will contribute to the demise of our nation someday at the hands of nations, less socially evolved, mind you, but whose social systems, at least, do not defy nature and common sense.  I mean, as regards sports, the issue is not even really centered on (the perceived problem of) boys over girls, men over women, male over female anymore.  It's about testosterone over estrogen.  I mean, did you folks get a load of the once quite attractive golfer, who is destined for the LPGA Hall of Fame, Annika Sorenstam when she was "beefing up" for the men's tour?  YIKES!  She had mini pythons for arms and boobs like Arnold. [smiley=pumped.gif] That is because the "ideal" of the sport, by virtue of its very nature, remains manly, i.e. "testosteronic".  So, if the women who succeed at sports against men (must) exhibit (to some significant degree) attributes common with testosterone-filled men, what does that say?  While women seek a level playing field, i.e. "sameness", with men in these arenas, they are at the same time selling out "womanhood" in favor of "manhood".  It's really just all about testosterone,... a chemical.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Jun 7th, 2006, 6:46am

Quote:
While women seek a level playing field


I have a buddy that worked as a steward for crooked Stick in Indy. I asked him why the dont have a single sex tourney where the ladies hit from the ladies tee's. He said its because the Men would lose. Its too close as it is. Give the wemon 20 yrds and its over for the men against the top 10 female golfers.

Steg, You are right, It would be the end of the LPGA. We would have no reason to watch ladies golf anymore. The next thing you know, They will ruin bowling too!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Oakland4life on Jun 7th, 2006, 12:21pm
I think if we let the women compete against the men on the PGA, why not let the Men compete on the LPGA?  I mean, c'mon, you bitches want equal rights?  Let us show you how EQUAL you really are in sports.  

Im no male sheuvanitst (sp) or anything, but there is a reason for the WNBA, LPGA, WTA etc..... it's because Men and Women are NOT EQUAL.  We were never meant to be equal.  As far as I'm concerned women are the more superior race as far as biologically.  Sheer muscle mass does not make up for your body being able to tolerate MASSIVE blood loss and pain threshold.  

But anyway, it's a nice story about Michelle Wie trying to qualify for the Open.  Good for her to be good enough to hold her own against the top men's PGA tour members.  But, honestly, it would be an OUTRAGE if a single man, lets say a 16 yr old boy on the Nationwide tour qualifying for the womens majors and actually playing.  It would NEVER happen.  

You want equal rights?  Let the NBA, PGA, USTA, etc... come on over and kick your sorry asses in the womens league.  And we all cheer him on as he kicks the living shit out of all your womens' records.  

How does THAT feel?  

O4L

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Oakland4life on Jun 9th, 2006, 1:26pm

Quote:
I am going to try to be as tactful with this as possible for fear of treading on people's over-the-top modern-day PC sensibilities...


Judging from the lack of response from my post, it looks like I have crossed that line  [smiley=shrug.gif]

O4L

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Jun 11th, 2006, 10:00pm
OR


http://www.poormagazine.org/news/1477/photo_1_supplement.jpg

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 12th, 2006, 1:21am
...to lay it on any thicker or, at least, not enough to respond.  The point must have been well made... ;)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2006, 7:17pm
So, based on this recent incident with the White Sox, I was watching Michael Wilbon and, understudy, Bob Ryan debate the ethics of stealing signs in baseball...  Ryan made a useful and, in any event, correct distinction between (3rd-base) coaches (and players on the field, etc.) stealing signs and teams using information from strategically-placed cameras, the former being within bounds and the latter being out of bounds.  Isn't that CLEARLY right???  Wilbon fails to make the distinction and makes the argument that it's all wrong...  Ryan didn't counter with this, but I immediately thought of it...  Then, why even have "signs", no less complicated ones, in baseball to begin with???  Why not just the players and coaches on the field just have a gentleman's agreement not to pay attention to communique on pitches, hitting, base-running, etc.?  My point,... it seems like as long as it's "contained within the field of play and a part of the inherent nature of the game", which cameras aren't, it's all good...

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Chumpzilla on Jun 23rd, 2006, 11:06pm
I heard this same shit.  I'm watching the Astro-Sox game now and they are accusing the press box (SOX) of catching signals and signaling the field with a "button."  The Houston announcers insist that's why the SOX shellacked St. Louis.  I'm not buying. I played baseball for 15 years.  Yes, players on the field try to steal signs.  But camera's picking up signs, signaling the field, in time for the hitter to react?   ?.?.?  I don't think so... this is just as bad as people accusing the Twins of turning on the ventilation fans in the Metrodome in order to create a favorable draft for their hitters...   [smiley=no.gif] [smiley=annoyed.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Chumpzilla on Jun 23rd, 2006, 11:11pm
WOW!  Detroit just pasted St. Louis for 10 runs...   [smiley=spank.gif] [smiley=vice.gif] [smiley=waitinforu.gif] it can't be that the Cardinals just SUCK right now!  O is Detroit stealing signs from the press-box???   ;) 8-)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 25th, 2006, 2:57am
Holy crap!!!  I believe we are witnessing the very beginning of the end of (the American brand of) western civilization... courtesy of "amp'd mobile"...  Have you seen these commercials?  Their "depiction" of "entertaining yourself"...  Regarding [smiley=piano.gif],... play a concerto...  No...  "Play with your head!"  (Mind you,... off the top of my head I don't even know what a concerto is,... but that's really just more proof in the pudding.)  "Lick Grandma's bunions!"  Are you kidding me???  I guess someone could say to me to get a sense of humor...  To that and to "this", I would say, "If I do, I have to accept contributing to my country's 'laughing itself to death', and I can't do that."  Talk about the "short-attention-span retardization" of America...  This "culture of disrespect" will spell the end of our great nation,... at least as a great nation...  Trust me... if we can't do better than this, some other nation will.  ...  Laugh away...  ...  How funny really is it, though???

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 25th, 2006, 6:03pm
An addendum to this...


on 06/25/06 at 02:57:29, StegRock wrote:
I guess someone could say to me to get a sense of humor...  To that and to "this", I would say, "If I do, I have to accept contributing to my country's 'laughing itself to death', and I can't do that."  Talk about the "short-attention-span retardization" of America...  This "culture of disrespect" will spell the end of our great nation,... at least as a great nation...  Trust me... if we can't do better than this, some other nation will.  ...  Laugh away...  ...  How funny really is it, though???


My wife and I were just talking about this this morning.  As a Korean, these commercials are just SO off-the-charts pathetic to her...  Anyway,... I think the rough analogy to what I quoted above is a roller-coaster...

"Click!  Click!  Click!"  Upward we climbed for the first 150 or so years of our nation.  "Click!  Click!  Click!"  Not the funnest part of "the ride".  "Click!  Click!"  In fact, it's the part of the ride most difficult on the scaffolding.  "Click!  Click!"  And, the rise takes time; it's not quick and exciting (like "what's to come").  Then...  "Click!"  It starts to slow!  "Click!"  The upward assent takes more and more effort.  "Click!"  The clicks are coming to an end.  And, then...  "Whoosh!"  Down we drop full-speed... "with our hands in the air like we just don't care"!  ...  We're havin' a blast... laughing our asses off...  BUT,... remember,... while the drop may be the fun part and full of laughs and excitement, it is nevertheless still a downward drop, a fall from the top.

Anyway...

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 26th, 2006, 3:43am
Okay...  Something a bit lighter...

Here's one for yous...  It was posted over on my other forum...  In particular, MC [smiley=fireman.gif] should get a chuckle out of this...  It's a joke that I think was supposed to precede some spam message...  I don't know...  It's pretty funny, though, in any event...

http://www.internetstitute.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=75;action=display;num=1151307475.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Jun 26th, 2006, 9:05am

on 06/25/06 at 18:03:45, StegRock wrote:
An addendum to this...


My wife and I were just talking about this this morning.  As a Korean, these commercials are just SO off-the-charts pathetic to her...  Anyway,... I think the rough analogy to what I quoted above is a roller-coaster...

"Click!  Click!  Click!"  Upward we climbed for the first 150 or so years of our nation.  "Click!  Click!  Click!"  Not the funnest part of "the ride".  "Click!  Click!"  In fact, it's the part of the ride most difficult on the scaffolding.  "Click!  Click!"  And, the rise takes time; it's not quick and exciting (like "what's to come").  Then...  "Click!"  It starts to slow!  "Click!"  The upward assent takes more and more effort.  "Click!"  The clicks are coming to an end.  And, then...  "Whoosh!"  Down we drop full-speed... "with our hands in the air like we just don't care"!  ...  We're havin' a blast... laughing our asses off...  BUT,... remember,... while the drop may be the fun part and full of laughs and excitement, it is nevertheless still a downward drop, a fall from the top.

Anyway...


A commercial advertisement that you find mindless and unfunny is the harbinger of doom for Western (American) civilization???   [smiley=idontknow.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 26th, 2006, 3:58pm

on 06/26/06 at 09:05:26, Philly wrote:
A commercial advertisement that you find mindless and unfunny is the harbinger of doom for Western (American) civilization???   [smiley=idontknow.gif]


It's just over-the-top and one poignant example I am picking out and picking on so as not to give you guys a dissertation on my point...  To me, looking at ALL that's going on in those commercials if we can just accept that commercial and shirk it off, no less many of us find humor and wit in it, telling guys like me to lighten up,... it's a sign of sorts of the emboldening of the dictatorship of the degenerate.  ...  Take we no lessons from the fall of Rome.


on 06/25/06 at 18:03:45, StegRock wrote:
..."with our hands in the air like we just don't care"!


That line should be reworded, "throwing our hands up in the air like we just don't care," if you follow the idiomatic play on words I' m making there...

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Jun 27th, 2006, 9:38am
I'll take your word for it on the commercial.  I haven't seen it.   [smiley=uh.gif]

One could also argue that the amount of time that people spend watching television is indicative of the decline... hence the disparate amount of money companies throw into television advertising budgets compared to public service efforts.   :o

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 28th, 2006, 4:59pm
An NHL Championship on the horizon for Pittsburgh,... perhaps...  From "The REAL Feed":

Cuban, Marino join financier's bid to buy Penguins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2502308&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (28.06.2006 10:30)
Mark Cuban is known for baiting NBA officials, and Dan Marino is the most prolific passer in NFL history. But the Pittsburgh natives now want to expand into a different sport in their hometown -- hockey.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Jun 28th, 2006, 5:10pm

on 06/28/06 at 16:59:26, StegRock wrote:
An NHL Championship on the horizon for Pittsburgh,... perhaps...  


Perhaps they'd be better situated to win the Stanley Cup if Cuban had some experience winning NBA Championships and Marino had some experience winning Super Bowls...

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 29th, 2006, 6:18am
Fellas,... Steg [smiley=smileytrash.gif] and wife [smiley=boobies.gif] are, alas, yet again, pulling up stakes and on the move to our new place (up near UH).  I will only have sparse, at least relatively speaking, internet access (by going over to campus) over the next, I would guess, 24 to 72 hours.  Take care of my baby here for me while I'm gone... or, at least, not "undividedly" here... :D

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Jul 6th, 2006, 3:47pm
http://www.sexyfunpages.com/images/index_wetfloor.jpg

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DirkDiggler on Jul 7th, 2006, 8:35am
I know many of you are commishes of your own league and you use Sportsline to host it.  I wanted to share a promotional code that I came across to save 10%.  The code is:

PFW2006

The price to host there is so incredibly high that you might as well use it and save 10%!!!




Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Jul 7th, 2006, 12:22pm
Thanks for the code, DD... Unfortunately the commish of my money league already registered and paid the bill.  

[smiley=doh.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jul 11th, 2006, 8:56pm

on 07/07/06 at 21:06:00, StegRock wrote:
And,... a THIRD day in a row the sun shines down on "the Gridiron", this time courtesy of our one and only Cheryl Wall a.k.a. Callie!  It just came in the mail today!  Once again, a very GENEROUS contribution... from someone who already gives so much in the way of team reports, thoughtful posts and participation. [smiley=bow.gif] To be honest with yous, I REALLY needed the pick-me-up...  We are still without internet access at home, and when I went to pack up and head home from the computer station here at school yesterday afternoon, I realized I was missing my keys...  I immediately remembered where I had left them, in the nearby bathroom two hours prior on my way in.  RAN there,... BUT... NO! [smiley=no.gif] So, since signing off with my last post yesterday,... I've been rather frantic and in a pretty beat frame of mind (still am).  I've overturned every rock, called every possible outlet... to no avail.  Some weirdo is out there with all MY keys, car, new place, etc.  Doubt if it will amount to anything... except the major inconvenience I endured yesteday...  I have duplicates of every one of them, so... it looks like I'll have to make yet another set... :-/ It just stinks to think that someone would do that, and I just can't help beating myself up... [smiley=key.gif] ... :'( So, Callie, it was nice receiving this today... though I knew it was coming...  So,... if anyone wants to make me feel really better with a surprise contribution, PLEASE go right ahead... and follow this FOUR-time donor's lead...  That's right!!!  You read it right!!!  Cheryl has become our official FIRST-ever FOUR-TIME donor!!!  That's two thumbs up squared... [smiley=twothumbsup.gif] [smiley=twothumbsup.gif] Now, THAT's makin' "a difference"!!! [smiley=yes.gif] Check it out yourself:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/donate.htm!!!

It's a thing of beauty! [smiley=touching.gif] It tells me loud-n-clear [smiley=loudnclear.gif] that my efforts here are appreciated!!!  Means A LOT coming from someone who's an integral part of that effort, no less!!!


A fella who works here at the computer lab at UH had found my keys and a kid student-worker, Siyuan, who I had struck up a conversation with and given a heads up on about my key sitch and didn't have his head up his ass (like the, frankly speaking, useless greeters [smiley=beaver.gif] at the reception desk) found them wherever in their office there where they put lost-and-found items along with a sign I had hung in the bathroom yesterday where I lost them requesting anybody with information to contact security or maintenance.  Siyuan, who had seen me a little earlier and asked me about my keys, acting awarely, saw the sign, which the person who found the keys apparently had taken down and placed alongside them in their office, and came out and laid them next to me at my workstation, asking me if they were them...  THEY WERE!!! [smiley=dancin.gif] It meant a lot to me that the kid took my situation to heart and was following through on his vigilance. [smiley=touching.gif] Good kid,... who's representing his parents with dignity! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Jul 15th, 2006, 5:33pm
http://www.tvsquad.com/images/2005/05/1SNLbe00.jpg   http://www.sportal.de/de/photos/06/01/37c717451e48c758052419b325c2edb7.jpg

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jul 16th, 2006, 10:38pm
Just thought this was worth sharin' with you guys...  Amidst the spam I allow on the following board over at my other site (completely NOT fantasy football-related), there are some pretty good jokes tucked in there:

http://www.internetstitute.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=75.

I've gotten not a few laughs out of them.  Drop on by and check it out. [smiley=checkin.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jul 19th, 2006, 5:31pm
Have any of you guys ever seen the sites "Classmates.com" or "Reunion.com"?  I had signed up for one of them like eight years ago when it was free and more simply laid out.  Some one of my classmates then, using that e-mail, I can only surmise, signed me up on the other one.  Anyway,... here's the deal with these sites now...  First off, what a bunch of money-grubbers... with their "teases" to get you to sign up for a "Silver" or "Gold" membership or whatever. [smiley=thumbsdown.gif] Worse, though, because, again, to some degree I can empathize with web site owners' trying to make a buck out of their forever underappreciated, yet quite extensive efforts and over-utilized product, is how these sites are organized.  The organization is deplorable.  Links everywhere.  A million things comin' at you all at once. [smiley=uh.gif] Blinking, pop-up ads.  It's a freakin' nightmare. [smiley=stars.gif] A few clicks and I was gone.  Meanwhile, I think such a service is a great idea and is what the internet is tailor-made for.  Unfortunately, the people atop are evidently morons. :-/

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by The_Dog on Jul 19th, 2006, 9:08pm
while I am not a member at myspace.com my wife is and sometimes I mess around under her account to see what my high school buddies are up to.

It is extremely easy to navigate and search by your high school or college.......Setting up the account is the only thing that can be way to time consuming, thus I have never done it.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Jul 24th, 2006, 9:21am
Fortunately my high school district (four large regional high schools) set up their own alumni pages.  It's kind of like Classmates Lite. No advertising, minimal graphics and pizzazz, but a place to put your bio and a message board for communications. It's a wonder that more schools don't do this, even if it is part of the computer science curriculum.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jul 24th, 2006, 3:26pm

on 07/24/06 at 09:21:52, Philly wrote:
Fortunately my high school district (four large regional high schools) set up their own alumni pages.  


Mine did that too. It's actually very user friendly and gives alot of alumni info. The only real problem is the lack of advertising to get more people signed in.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jul 27th, 2006, 7:04am
Again, I feel remiss if I don't mention this, and, well, furthermore, after the generosity shown to me by way of the donations as of late, help, even at this very late point in time, make this happen for someone...

Does anybody have a flexible enough schedule that leaving in a week or ten days or so (by August 7th) for a week-or-two-long, spur-of-the-moment, affordable trip to Paradise [smiley=palmtree.gif] (to meet Mr. [smiley=smileytrash.gif] and Mrs. [smiley=bow.gif] Steg, no less) is possible?  You only live once.  That's my motto!  And, you don't know what tomorrow's going to bring.  You're the author of your life.  That's my other motto!  If you have even the slightest chance of "making it happen", click here:

http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/vac/186744378.html.

And,... look,... I'm not going to have the slightest problem renting this place.  That's NOT why I am doing this.  I am doing this because of what I stated above, period.  Anyway, it's already a GREAT deal as anyone in the know can tell you.  I'll even make it a better deal (perhaps by HALF) [smiley=ohshit.gif] for some Gridironer who has "given it up for me here" that can "make this happen" for him/herself.

Again, I know this is very late notice.  But, that's how cool things happen in life.  You just got to be willing (and position yourself) to make it happen. [smiley=zenmaster.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Aug 6th, 2006, 9:33am
I'm in the mall with the rest of the clan. The boys are off checking out the tee shirts at

one end of the store while the wife and daughter are looking at and touching everything

else. You know how it is. Pick it up, turn it around 360 degree's, look at it for flaws or

stains, and then hold it up to the body. EVERY PIECE OF CLOTHING IN THE STORE! Have you ever

fell for the ole " I'm just gonna run in to Wal-Mart and right back out. I'll only be a

minute. You wait in the car." Line?  That's always hours. Anyway, The girls are fondling

clothing. The boys are ripping through the funny tee shirts while I am thumbing through the

fantasy library on the fish wrap rack. Now there was about 4 of us guys standing there

reading the rags on the rack. Every now and again a clerk would walk by and say "you guys

gonna buy those or read em here. We would all look up briefly at the 17 year old then ignore

him as if he were our own. It was about this time when both boys walked up and asked, " Hey

dad, can we each buy a tee shirt? Their only six bucks! " Normally I would respond with the

appropriate, "Go ask your mother" but I was distracted. I replied. "Yea, whatever." The boys

ran off to the front of the store to make the purchase. Odd the fact that they were buying

their own clothing. Didn't dawn on me that something was up at the time until later. Perhaps

the young clerk asking us we if we would like to use the office copy machine on the mags

distracted me. I got the point and moved on. I turned down the main isle toward the back of

the store only to be grabbed by the arm and spun around. It was the wife. "Lets get out of

here". Surely she couldn't have touched everything by now. Something was up. I asked, "What

happened" in an accusatory manner. "Shut up and lets go," she said. It seems that my young

daughter tripped over a carpet strip and dumped a red slushy all over a rack of clothing.

Not the clearance rack mind you. With that , we were moving quickly towards the exit. Over

the PA we hear "Clean up in the women's department." Along with "Oh my god!" from one of the

associates. We get to the car and there are my fine boys, both now sporting their new tee

shirts.  One with the slogan "Never Duck with a Quack head".http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:raezyCXAjUi15M:meuse.com/john/aflack.jpg While the other had on one that

said " Duck all you feather makers". The first words out of my wife's mouth were. "Your new

school clothes are going back. What were you thinking?" "Dad said it was ok". As usual they

sold me out. I replied with the ole, "They're not wearing those to school. Just wearing them

to screw around in." "Really" She said. "Where do suppose it's alright to wear a DUCK ALL

YOU FEATHER MAKERS tee shirt? Name one place" I've become good at picking and choosing my

battles over the 17 years of marriage. I just shut up. She said "wait here, we will be right

back." Her and the boys went back into the store to make the return while my daughter and I

listened to radio Disney in the van. That's right, for at least 1 hour. The three finally

came out of the store. The boys were sporting 2 different tees. One bright red and the other

bright yellow. Both had in large letters the word STAFF on the front, and the word INFECTION

on the back. Go figure. Never duck with a quack head, out! Staff infection, in. That was one

heck of a trip to the mall.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by cwhams on Aug 7th, 2006, 9:49pm
[smiley=eagle.gif]  Noticed on another threat that the Stegman is working on a Ph.D in Philosophy.

Got to say I like your attitude Steg...it really is more about learning and growing than about the short term destination, "the DEGREE".

I earned a couple of B.S. and  a couple of M.S. degrees to get tickets through doors previously closed.  It was OK and I've managed a good living and good life with those tickets.

But the Doctorate Degree was the real deal...it related to nothing professionally and everything personally and spiritually...which made a difference professionally.

Stay in the buggy and you'll win the race.

cwhams [smiley=egghead.gif] [smiley=egghead.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 10th, 2006, 4:27pm
First off,... THANK YOU for the recognition, Chuck! [smiley=bow.gif] I appreciate your kind words.  They brightened my day. [smiley=sunny.gif]

...

Next, a question...  As many of yous know, Gino and I just recently moved again (and I'm sure it's NOT our last move, whether we lay roots here or not).  We don't yet have local phone service, but don't just want to have a cell.  My wife got one with her new job, and I still have "the English Master" one, but it's all the same "nights and weekends" hassles.  We want/need home service...  Have any of you given Vonage (http://www.vonage.com) a whirl... or heard anything about it from friends???  You know, "Woo-hoo, woo.. hoo-hoo!  Woo-hoo, woo.. hoo-hoo!"  If so, what's been your experience/what have you heard??? [smiley=phone.gif] ... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] or [smiley=thumbsdown.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DirkDiggler on Aug 10th, 2006, 4:32pm

on 08/10/06 at 16:27:03, StegRock wrote:
First off,... THANK YOU for the recognition, Chuck! [smiley=bow.gif] I appreciate your kind words.  They brightened my day. [smiley=sunny.gif]

...

Next, a question...  As many of yous know, Gino and I just recently moved again (and I'm sure it's NOT our last move, whether we lay roots here or not).  We don't yet have local phone service, but don't just want to have a cell.  My wife got one with her new job, and I still have "the English Master" one, but it's all the same "nights and weekends" hassles.  We want/need home service...  Have any of you given Vonage (http://www.vonage.com) a whirl... or heard anything about it from friends???  You know, "Woo-hoo, woo.. hoo-hoo!  Woo-hoo, woo.. hoo-hoo!"  If so, what's been your experience/what have you heard??? [smiley=phone.gif] ... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] or [smiley=thumbsdown.gif]



I personally have not tried Vonage, but know of two people that have had it.  Key words being HAD IT.  Neither of them was happy.  Customer service department was non-existant, billing issues, and overall not a good experience with it.  They both recommended never going to it and basically trash the company whenever it is brought up........


Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 10th, 2006, 10:31pm
How long ago did your friends have Vonage, Double D???  How long ago was this experience they had???

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DirkDiggler on Aug 10th, 2006, 10:48pm

on 08/10/06 at 22:31:00, StegRock wrote:
How long ago did your friends have Vonage, Double D???  How long ago was this experience they had???



Steg-

One was within the past 8 months or so.  The other was when it was first introduced.  I can get more specifics tomorrow if they are at work.

Now on to what I know about Vonage:

Vonage has gotten major bad press recently.  They sold there shares to their customers only by e-mail and phone solicitation.  Many bought it not knowing what the hell they were doing.(dumb asses)  Of course, the IPO was the worst IPO in 2006. The stock is now a third of its price from the IPO.  

In addition, Vonage has 911 issues that I am not sure have been resolved.  If you dial 911 with Vonage it does not route you to your local emergency service.  I saw this story on the news..........

I would encourage to you go to a site like epinions.com to see what they have to say.  In my quick search on line, people either love em or hate em.  But the most common issue APPEARS to be the customer service and difficulty in cancelling the service.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Aug 11th, 2006, 12:37am
I don't know about Hawaii, but in New Jersey Verizon is the best service.  When everyone around us has calls breaking up and dropped calls, they borrow our cell with no further problems.  And they are right beside us.  Also, Verizon to Verizon is always free here.  Check it out between Hawaii and the mainland.  That may save you money if your mom has it, too.

A lot of people are dropping the land lines and going to cell only.  You may want to research the fact that you really need a land line where you are (unless you're on some sort of phone line modem).  I have no clue about Hawaii on that.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 11th, 2006, 5:26am
Looks like we're goin' local, Hawaii Telcom.  They actually have a better deal as it turns out.  By the way, they don't have Verizon here,... and,... well,... thank God...  I gotta be honest, Callie, I think Verizon sucks, and my mom's not a fan, either (but don't tell her I said that; I don't think she'd take kindly to my bringin' her (thoughts) up here).

...

Anyway,... moving right along,... is it me or...???  ...  From "The REAL Feed":

Schottenheimer apologizes for remark about bullets (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/08/10/2020.ap.fbn.chargers.schottenheimer.apology.0200/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (11.08.2006 00:32)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Aug 11th, 2006, 8:27am

on 08/11/06 at 05:26:40, StegRock wrote:
Anyway,... moving right along,... is it me or...???  ...  From "The REAL Feed":

Schottenheimer apologizes for remark about bullets (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/08/10/2020.ap.fbn.chargers.schottenheimer.apology.0200/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (11.08.2006 00:32)


I don't have the slightest idea why a retired military man would make such an issue of a simple figure of speech that is used in any number of situations -- not just football. It's embarrassing when someone has that much time on their hands. What's next, no more blitz packages for Shawne Merriman because, after all, football has nothing to do with the German blitzkreigs? Rivers can't throw a Hail Mary pass because he's not properly representing Catholicism if he does so? No more nickel and dime coverages because the U.S. Treasury Department will complain?

I understand how important the military presence in and around San Diego is, but c'mon already. I don't think Marty Schottenheimer should have even given this joker any credence at all.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 14th, 2006, 6:03am
You guys see this on ESPN SportsCenter tonight/last night...???  During their report on KC's pitcher Luke Hudson's 11-run horror show in the first inning against the Indians, they told of the last time such a bad pitching performance was had in the first inning.  It was way back in 1897, and the team with the bats that day were the Brooklyn "Bridegrooms",... who eventually became the Brooklyn "Dodgers"...  B-LAAAA!!!  How CLASSIC (and telling) ;) is that???

[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=sinister.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 18th, 2006, 12:23am
Brazen Vagisil commercials, which my little Korean wife finds to be in poor taste (figuratively... AND LITERALLY... [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] (She has a GREAT sense of humor.)), aside, the over-sexualization of our citizenry,... OUR CHILDREN,... is OVER-THE-TOP.

I'm drivin' around the other day, listening to one of the popular local pop/rock stations which is famous for this HILARIOUS segment where they have this Japanese guy, Tanaka or something like that, do karaoke to American pop songs.  With his THICK accent, it's a nightmare... and a hoot...  The kicker (no, not "place-kicker", you [smiley=footballsmiley.gif]heads... ;)),... he thinks he's really good.  So,... the station has a group of 3rd-grade students from St. John the Baptist Elementary School in the booth (for what reason I have no clue; that's another puzzler) and they want to hear Tanaka do karaoke.  He's not on the set, so they call him at work.  Anyway, the song the kids request he doesn't know.  So, after a failed attempt, the radio DJ, like it was second nature, just asks him to do the song "Promiscuous".  The DJ eggs him on.  He does it...  Not so good over the phone.  The kids laugh and cheer, anyway,... and I'm thinkin',... "Am I the only one 'thinkin'?"  Are we even beyond sheltering "children" at this point???  I mean how blatant... [smiley=nono.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by sexydexy on Aug 18th, 2006, 2:23am
I disagree, Steg.  If anything, sexuality is not as open in this country as it should be.  

European countries are much more open to it and it doesn't seem to harm their citizenry at all in that regard.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 18th, 2006, 5:15am

on 08/18/06 at 02:23:53, sexydexy wrote:
I disagree, Steg...


What a revelation!!!  When else do you post???

Anyway, you've lived in Europe for how long???  Europe is a sexually healthy environment... [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] Where do you get your data(/biasedness) on that?  (Rhetorical question.)  Look,... Thailand is SWARMING with f'ed-up European men,... WAY MORE than Americans!!!

Don't misconstrue American sexual dysfunctionality, in many respects a remnant of our puritan roots, and our unnecessarily making sex something "dirty", "embarrassing" and that "should only be done between man and wife in their bedroom with the lights off" (and all the f'ed up shit that goes with that) with the ever-increasing tacit acceptance of sexualized media in our popular culture, in many respects a function of capitalism and the fact that "sex sells",... not that the two are absolutely mutually exclusive; in fact, the latter is exacerbated by the former,... but anyway...  That's a whole nother can of worms.  We, American adults, are like a bunch of pre-teens and teenagers, in many respects, with our "approach" to sexuality and that's kind of whack,... granted.  But, none of that changes our responsibility to control ourselves and be careful around our children... and the "real" negative effects of our not doing so.  In fact, my point was about modesty regarding sex in front of CHILDREN, in any event (it's like you read my first sentence, stopped, and responded only to the very end of it instead of seeing the,... let me beat this drum yet again,... "bigger picture").  What...  Do you want to be explaining "promiscuity" to your 3rd-grader someday?  ...  Yes, there are issues of sexual dysfunction in America and they need to be hashed out (BY AMERICA'S ADULTS), but we should not lay that at the doorstep of our children.  There is a time and place for everything.  Ultimately, I am trying to get at the "rights versus RESPONSIBILITY" aspect of this.  Furthermore, it a common MISconception that America's "issues" regarding sexuality are unique.  "Sex" is an "issue" everywhere, and, simply put, but most often true, the lines are usually drawn between the (horny) youth and the (less horny, more experienced (in "both" senses)) elders.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Aug 18th, 2006, 6:57am
Horseshoes and hand grenades,

Of course this is a topic for that volitile thread I've vowed to stay away from, however


Quote:
the station has a group of 3rd-grade students from St. John the Baptist Elementary School


The question I have is how many of them were armed?


Quote:
Yes, there are issues of sexual dysfunction in America and they need to be hashed out


Let me tell you what I think the issues are. It is how the mainstream media links sex to violence. No doubt! It's everything from video games to network TV. One of my kids friends has a game where you have to defend a female against a gang of thugs who are looking to assault the lady. As the thugs get close, they tear a part of her clothing off. If and when you win this battle, guess who gets laid? When I first saw my son and his friends playing this game they were intense. So intense that they didn't notice me come down the stairs before they could hide it from me. We wonder why otherwise normal high school students shoot their classmates. "Bobby, what did you do all summer?" "I killed people and got laid!" "Cool, You must have City streets II, Its Awesome"
In today's day and age there are two things you can count on at the movies. If there are graphic visual effects (BOOM!) someones gonna be in a serious sex scene. Think about how the TERMINATOR would be different if it was made today. The difference is somewhere down the line, Moms taking her clothes off.


Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 18th, 2006, 3:44pm
I don't disagree...  It's all tied up in our kiddish mentality towards (all) things sexual.  ...  So, what happened to the game, sk???

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Aug 18th, 2006, 5:34pm
I asked them if they would play that game in front of one of their female friends. They said no. I then asked them if they would play it in front of their mother. They said no. I then talked about integrity and asked them to not play it in my house anymore. I told them I was embarrassed to see it. What else could I do? :(


Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Aug 18th, 2006, 7:01pm
You could do exactly what you've been doing, sk.  You're teaching them how to form their own moral and behavior constructs.  I think you're a very good teacher.

If you just force them to obey your rules, at that age, you only teach them to enjoy defying their supervisors in order to bond with each other (against the older "morons").  You made them think about it.

Edit:  And I believe you gave them something even more important that they need very much at this time in their lives - a good male role model.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by sexydexy on Aug 18th, 2006, 7:32pm
Steg,

Do you always get your panties in a twist whenever someone disagrees with you?

I will only say that you tend to act like a horse's ass whenever I want to offer a different point of view that was no way intended to be a personal jab at you.  Stop taking everything so goddamned personal on a forum, for cripe's sake.

Back to the topic at hand...I have not lived in Europe.  What I am basing my opinion on is the fact that Americans tend to be anal (pardon the pun) about sex and tend to shelter teenagers from sexuality.  It is fine to shelter third graders, I agree.  But what would they know at that point that would twist them for life by singing a song on some gag on the radio?  How does that possibly harm them?  I'm not so sure.

I just think that in America, they should stop preaching abstinence to teenagers, be smart and promote safe sex over anything else.  

It's just that your post resonated to me that very point that America is way too overprotective when it comes to sexual overtones.  

In America, at least, there seems to be no balance as far as sexuality goes.  Most people coming of age, so to speak, are either brought up sexually repressed and thinking that it is some "dirty" act or they are brought up to just treat it as some game where, if mistakes happen, you can just press the reset button.  There's not much in between.

That's what my point is...that you just don't see as much of that (or at least I haven't) coming from those people brought up in European countries as compared to the very Christianized America.  

Now, Asian culture, as you would know...that's a whole 'nother ballgame.

But that's a digression that hasn't come up yet, but probably will.


Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 18th, 2006, 8:16pm
While I, like Callie, can "appreciate" whence you are coming with your "new-age" tack, sk, I have to beg to differ on a couple points (not the least of which is the "new-age" tack itself,... but that's a WHOLE nother ball of wax,... not that I think it's totally ineffective) (but, of course, I'm not yet a parent, so...; on the other hand, that's by design, so...).

First, was the game taken away from them?  That may be a bit of an "old-school" move, but given the stage you set for yourself, if the speech you made had any efficacy, taking the game from them (and perhaps even destroying it on the spot (if it was your son's)) would have been a REAL powerful move.  In any event, the game should not have continued to be in their possession.

Also, while I understand where you are going with the "would you play this in front of your girlfriends and moms" tack, middle-school/high-school-aged kids, WELL-ADJUSTED, basically good kids, as compared to the dulled sensibilities of adults as per my initial post above that kicked this discussion off, actually have quite a keen sense of "what's appropriate when and where".  Hell, we were all kids once.  I can think of A LOT of things I wouldn't do with or in front of my female friends, relatives or mothers (or fathers, as is evidenced by your story, sk) that weren't that big of a deal.  Cussing is a GREAT example.  I would cuss with my (guy) friends, BUT I SURELY WOULDN'T in front of my mom... for fear of some SERIOUS repercussions.  (You know my mom, Cheryl.  She's not one to mess with,... and I came out pretty well... with respect to,... well,... "respect".  My mom didn't raise a bad kid,... or man for that matter, and she was OLD-SCHOOL,... OLD-WORLD, some might even say.  Anyway, back to the point...)  Kids can rationalize that stuff away in a day.  From my (yet naive) point of view, it seems like "new-school" tactics work better when the issue is positive and proactive, like as regards respecting those disadvantaged and taking good care of one's possessions, but that when it comes to punitive matters, the "old-school" book shouldn't be closed too quickly.  It's great to get them thinking, FOR SURE.  But, "how" to think isn't yet well-formed in the teenage mind... beyond, by and large, coming to self-serving conclusions... in the end (that's one of the reasons I want my Ph.D.; I want to be able to teach adults aged 18 and over because, intellectually, teaching middle school, which I taught for a year, and high school, where I did assistant teaching, wasn't satisfying for me... at all, whereas, teaching EFL at the college level (in Korea) was MUCH more intellectually satisfying... for me).  Proactive circumstances like "don't be a bully", "walk away from a fight if at all possible" and maybe even "defend or, at least, sympathize with the guy being put down" are good for getting the "how" across (because, at the end of the day, such attitudes will serve them best).  Punitive circumstances are not.  In these circumstances, kids need to have an idea of "what" to think (because, at the end of the day, it is NOT absolutely clear what will serve them best, especially, as in the case(s) here, ADULTS are providing the product (and media); the messages are MIXED at best).  That's not to say that the "old-school" displinary actions can't, nay, shouldn't be accompanied with a "new-school" sit-down talk.  But, the "moral of the story" of that talk has to be airtight and virtually rehersed beforehand,... if it's going to withstand the "ill-logic" of a preteen or teenager.  ...  That's my take,... one of a non-parent, granted (but that, by design), but one of a guy who grew up in a "TIGHT ship" of a household.

I also want to throw this out there...  sk, are you the activist about this kind of stuff (which VERY directly infringes on your ability to raise your OFFSPRING in an environment you find suitable) that you, at least, appear to be on some other issues as per your posts on the "politics" thread and elsewhere?  How about some witty graphics portraying the "PlayStation" console in the form of a coffin OR marketing "X-Box" as "XXX-Box"? ;)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Aug 18th, 2006, 8:26pm
Like it says in my signature:  

"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra   ;D

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 18th, 2006, 8:38pm

on 08/18/06 at 19:32:03, sexydexy wrote:
Steg,

Do you always get your panties in a twist whenever someone disagrees with you?


WHAT-EVER, dude...  Go away!  The only "aggressive-ish"/"defensive-ish" thing I wrote was this...


on 08/18/06 at 05:15:36, StegRock wrote:
What a revelation!!!  When else do you post???


BFD!


on 08/18/06 at 19:32:03, sexydexy wrote:
I will only say that you tend to act like a horse's ass whenever I want to offer a different point of view that was no way intended to be a personal jab at you.  Stop taking everything so goddamned personal on a forum, for cripe's sake.


And, now, I'm being called a "horse's ass" on, let's get this straight, "my" forum (as opposed to just "a" forum)...  This is all NOT to be taken "personally", right?

[offtopic]On this note, [smiley=note.gif] let it be known that I prefer good, old-fashioned "aggressive-aggression" to "passive-aggression" any day of the week.  At least it's "clear-cut" and, then, can be met "head on".  I hate constant little prickly shit that kind of looms under the radar...[/offtopic]

But, really, I personally think you just get me SO WRONG... based on your not really being one of the "regulars" here.  If it's not this, yet another disagreement, it's asking me to spell out the plan with the magazine or some other critical comment.  If you're not one of the ones stepping up to the plate and helping out or at least hanging out around here often and participating in any of the site activities (that fuel this venture), if something's coming off "off" to you, including ME, it's probably because you're not understanding (something or some things).  Bottom line, though, if you don't like it, take off...  I'm not holding you back. [smiley=shrug.gif]

...

As for the rest, your position on the "issue" at hand,... okay... [smiley=idontknow.gif] Sounds like you're onto something there...  Run with it.  Think it through day-by-day, year-by-year. [smiley=thinking.gif] See where it gets you!  Revisit your opinion as you go down the path of life.  See where it leads you, and see where you stand at the different crossroads of life. [smiley=stpat.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 18th, 2006, 8:42pm

on 08/18/06 at 20:26:37, Callie wrote:
Like it says in my signature:  

"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra   ;D


While I ABSOLUTELY appreciate that sentiment,... [smiley=yes.gif] that isn't to be translated as "do not think things through as thoroughly as possible and proceed without a (well-thought-through) plan". [smiley=zenmaster.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Aug 18th, 2006, 8:49pm

on 08/18/06 at 20:42:24, StegRock wrote:
While I ABSOLUTELY appreciate that sentiment,... [smiley=yes.gif] that isn't to be translated as "do not think things through as thoroughly as possible and proceed without a (well-thought-through) plan". [smiley=zenmaster.gif]


I was responding to sk's comments about raising young men.  One of the best pieces of advice I have ever been given about raising children came to me from a very intelligent woman who is, unfortunately, long dead.

One of her favorite quotes was:  You can't push a string.

Remember that when your daughter is 12 or your son is 14.    [smiley=evil.gif]

When it comes to raising children, the best laid plans of mice and men.............

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Aug 18th, 2006, 8:57pm

Quote:
First, was the game taken away from them?


No. It was my sons friends game. I did ask his father to view it and form his own opinion.


Quote:
I can think of A LOT of things I wouldn't do with or in front of my female friends, relatives or mothers (or fathers, as is evidenced by your story, sk) that weren't that big of a deal.  Cussing is a GREAT example.  I would cuss with my (guy) friends, BUT I SURELY WOULDN'T in front of my mom.


No Steg, Cussings a bit different. You can cuss and apologize and forget about it quickly. There are things young teens feel guilty about. Sometimes getting caught and being forced to own up , or talk it through leaves lasting impressions. Its the difference of getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar and steeling candy from a baby. Guilt is a powerful motivator.


Quote:
I also want to throw this out there...  sk, are you the activist about this kind of stuff (which VERY directly infringes on your ability to raise your OFFSPRING in an environment you find suitable) that you, at least, appear to be on some other issues as per your posts on the "politics" thread and elsewhere?  How about some witty graphics portraying the "PlayStation" console in the form of a coffin OR marketing "X-Box" as "XXX-Box".


I dont follow what you are saying there. Help me out with that.

http://www.mordantorange.com/images/comics/christmas/xbox.gif

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 18th, 2006, 8:59pm

on 08/18/06 at 20:49:54, Callie wrote:
I was responding to sk's comments about raising young men.  One of the best pieces of advice I have ever been given about raising children came to me from a very intelligent woman who is, unfortunately, long dead.

One of her favorite quotes was:  You can't push a string.

Remember that when your daughter is 12 or your son is 14.    [smiley=evil.gif]

When it comes to raising children, the best laid plans of mice and men.............


I can't get beyond the "you haven't parented" comments,... so that's that for that...  But, I have been told things of the like before about other things (I've pursued)... and still managed...  THAT SAID, plans MUST NOT be set in stone.  They MUST be both broad and flexible,... BUT they MUST be in place!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 18th, 2006, 9:09pm

on 08/18/06 at 20:57:33, steelkings wrote:
No. It was my sons friends game. I did ask his father to view it and form his own opinion.


...  And had the moral wherewithal to indicate to the other dad that, ultimately, that was absolutely unacceptable in your household?  (I'm guessing you supposed that he would come to the same conclusion as you.  I'd be one to make it "clear" where I stood, though.)


Quote:
No Steg, Cussings a bit different. You can cuss and apologize and forget about it quickly.


NOT IN MY HOUSEHOLD!!! :-X Maybe that's why I cuss SO MUCH now...  I'm making up for lost time... [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif]

...

In any event, I, OF COURSE, agree with your (old-school) usage of guilt.  Your original post along with Callie's response seemed to me to indicate more of a "new-agey" approach (which does have its merits, mind you; my mom, e.g., generally speaking, is a MUCH better "mom" to smaller children than late-teen/college-aged/adult ones) than a "guilt trip" one.  NICE!!! [smiley=shiteatingrin.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Aug 18th, 2006, 9:10pm
Grand theft auto S.A

http://www.gamingblog.org/images/r_sex_violence_and_games.jpg

So true

http://www.parentstv.org/ptc/videogames/images/BUYINGM.gif

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Aug 18th, 2006, 9:27pm

Quote:
And had the moral wherewithal to indicate to the other dad that, ultimately, that was absolutely unacceptable in your household?  (I'm guessing you supposed that he would come to the same conclusion as you.  I'd be one to make it "clear" where I stood, though.)


I know where those parents stand. They are smart people. They will figure that out on their own. Also, these kids are a 16 year old and two 17 year olds we are talking about. They are not completely stupid and unaccountable. I made my point with them. The problem is that kids, by kids I mean anyone from birth to about the age of 25, are easily influenced. Parents try at great lenths to be proactive in raising their kids. All the way from the poor single mom to the rich family enviroment. The problem is that it has been found that kids are very easy to market to. Cigs, video games, questionable clothing ect. Parents are now too busy being reactive to be effectivly proactive. Point being, the first time I saw Grand Theft Auto S.A advertised was on the cartoon network at 11 am. Who do you think they were marketing the game to. Check out the picture of the game in the post above this one. Note the excitement meter. Thats some sic ass shit to be selling kids.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 18th, 2006, 9:49pm

on 08/18/06 at 21:27:09, steelkings wrote:
I know where those parents stand. They are smart people. They will figure that out on their own. Also, these kids are a 16 year old and two 17 year olds we are talking about. They are not completely stupid and unaccountable. I made my point with them. The problem is that kids, by kids I mean anyone from birth to about the age of 25, are easily influenced. Parents try at great lenths to be proactive in raising their kids. All the way from the poor single mom to the rich family enviroment. The problem is that it has been found that kids are very easy to market to. Cigs, video games, questionable clothing ect. Parents are now too busy being reactive to be effectivly proactive. Point being, the first time I saw Grand Theft Auto S.A advertised was on the cartoon network at 11 am. Who do you think they were marketing the game to. Check out the picture of the game in the post above this one. Note the excitement meter. Thats some sic ass shit to be selling kids.



on 08/18/06 at 21:10:47, steelkings wrote:
Grand theft auto S.A

http://www.gamingblog.org/images/r_sex_violence_and_games.jpg


W[smiley=ohshit.gif]W, sk!!!  Thanks for opening my eyes! :o I didn't know it was THAT bad...  That's TOTALLY fuckin' WHACK (as per my the post I began this with),... and has absolutely NOTHING to do with our becoming more "open-minded" about sex (the direction in which this kind of got miscontrued;... not that sd is saying otherwise)...  Quite the contrary, in fact!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 18th, 2006, 10:52pm

on 08/18/06 at 21:49:14, StegRock wrote:
...(the direction in which this kind of got miscontrued;... not that sd is saying otherwise)...  Quite the contrary, in fact!!!


sd, here's the pisser for me...  You get right off on the wrong foot with me (with a degree of frequency that it almost seems purposeful,... but, in any event, you did here)...


on 08/18/06 at 02:23:53, sexydexy wrote:
I disagree, Steg.  If anything, sexuality is not as open in this country as it should be.  

European countries are much more open to it and it doesn't seem to harm their citizenry at all in that regard.


You, right off the bat, in no uncertain terms, state that you "disagree" with me... when really (as per your later post) you just went in a DIFFERENT, albeit related, direction,... and, furthermore, you did so in an "undeveloped" way in all of three sentences (which, de facto, doesn't show much, if any, "appreciation" for my point).  THE FACT OF THE MATTER is that, while maybe not exactly, we're pretty much on the same side of the fence here... BOTH with what you are talking about AND with what I am talking about (as per your later post).   But, (what I perceive is) your apparent rush to "disagree" with me causes things to get unnecessarily "twisted around".  Your original proclamation that you "disagree" with me isn't even accurate.  In fact, it's not even an appropriate response.  It's like answering an "or" question, "Would like tea or coffee?", with "Yes!"  Your original post does not even contain "agreement/disagreement".  YET, that's what you preface it with, which just creates confusion... ?.?.? and some angst. [smiley=annoyed.gif] Your initial post is more of an "and we have to consider this too, Steg" post.  You could have, instead of just being (immediately) "disagreeable", INTEGRATED what you were thinking into the greater conversation.  Furthermore, (what I perceive is) your apparent rush to "disagree" with me gives off/gives me the "feeling" that it must be intentional/sought after... because it doesn't make any sense otherwise. [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by sexydexy on Aug 19th, 2006, 4:57am
So let me get this straight, Steg...because it's your forum and I haven't donated any money and ask questions about a "plan" that you have but don't have many details, I can take a hike?

It's your bandwidth, dude.  You have that power to delete an account more than anyone else.

You always do this, though, when you feel like someone disagrees with one of your points or calls you out on something.

And here, again, you demonstrate your blowing it out of proportion.  

I wonder about this site if since, as you stated, it's "your" forum, that you really give a shit about everyone else along the way or just want them to pay for "your" forum above anything else?  

I was under the impression it was the community forum, not just YOURS in particular.  

You know, since people were putting effort and money into it.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 19th, 2006, 5:25am
This is you... [smiley=dunce.gif] yet again NOT GETTING IT... on SO MANY levels...


on 08/19/06 at 04:57:41, sexydexy wrote:
So let me get this straight, Steg...because it's your forum and I haven't donated any money and ask questions about a "plan" that you have but don't have many details, I can take a hike?

It's your bandwidth, dude.  You have that power to delete an account more than anyone else.

You always do this, though, when you feel like someone disagrees with one of your points or calls you out on something.

And here, again, you demonstrate your blowing it out of proportion.  

I wonder about this site if since, as you stated, it's "your" forum, that you really give a shit about everyone else along the way or just want them to pay for "your" forum above anything else?  

I was under the impression it was the community forum, not just YOURS in particular.  

You know, since people were putting effort and money into it.


Why don't you just go away if you dislike it so much???  Somehow I'll find a way, as difficult as it may seem (to you), to continue on without you...  Big mouth + Arrogant attitude + NO clue (as to what I, as a person, am about) + Contributing virtually nothing to the effort here (and I do NOT just mean donations) = Prick in my ass!!!  Go away already!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 19th, 2006, 4:06pm
I'm guessing upon producing that last bit of assholetry, sd, you just flat-out missed this post (it's the one right above your last one, but I'm reposting it here for your convenience)...



on 08/18/06 at 21:49:14, StegRock wrote:
...(the direction in which this kind of got miscontrued;... not that sd is saying otherwise)...  Quite the contrary, in fact!!!


sd, here's the pisser for me...  You get right off on the wrong foot with me (with a degree of frequency that it almost seems purposeful,... but, in any event, you did here)...


on 08/18/06 at 02:23:53, sexydexy wrote:
I disagree, Steg.  If anything, sexuality is not as open in this country as it should be.  

European countries are much more open to it and it doesn't seem to harm their citizenry at all in that regard.


You, right off the bat, in no uncertain terms, state that you "disagree" with me... when really (as per your later post) you just went in a DIFFERENT, albeit related, direction,... and, furthermore, you did so in an "undeveloped" way in all of three sentences (which, de facto, doesn't show much, if any, "appreciation" for my point).  THE FACT OF THE MATTER is that, while maybe not exactly, we're pretty much on the same side of the fence here... BOTH with what you are talking about AND with what I am talking about (as per your later post).   But, (what I perceive is) your apparent rush to "disagree" with me causes things to get unnecessarily "twisted around".  Your original proclamation that you "disagree" with me isn't even accurate.  In fact, it's not even an appropriate response.  It's like answering an "or" question, "Would like tea or coffee?", with "Yes!"  Your original post does not even contain "agreement/disagreement".  YET, that's what you preface it with, which just creates confusion... ?.?.? and some angst. [smiley=annoyed.gif] Your initial post is more of an "and we have to consider this too, Steg" post.  You could have, instead of just being (immediately) "disagreeable", INTEGRATED what you were thinking into the greater conversation.  Furthermore, (what I perceive is) your apparent rush to "disagree" with me gives off/gives me the "feeling" that it must be intentional/sought after... because it doesn't make any sense otherwise. [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by sexydexy on Aug 19th, 2006, 4:34pm
First off, I don't disagree with you intentionally.  It turns out that we just don't see eye to eye about it.  

I was at work when I posted what I did and didn't have time to post my second post until later, which is what I usually do.  By that time, you had already taken the liberty of taking my post of disagreeance with the overall point of sexuality in America (as I was thinking at the time) personally.  

So, that's why I prefaced my next post about you getting your panties in a twist.  

As for my question you got offended by, it's a *reasonable* question to ask, for me, when you always come back with things like "go away" and "just leave."  I've considered donating money to the forum, but it almost feels like  it's just a playtoy for you that you want people to donate into, especially when, after all these disagreements comes the whole "you don't have to be here and I don't need you to be here nor want you to be here" schpiel.

I don't doubt your good intentions for the most part for this site.  

But when you act like you did, the question will, undoubtedly, come up because, hey, who might be next in line for it?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 19th, 2006, 5:13pm
I just sent you another private-message, but I will respond to just a couple points here...


on 08/19/06 at 16:34:20, sexydexy wrote:
First off, I don't disagree with you intentionally.  It turns out that we just don't see eye to eye about it.


AGAIN,... THAT'S NOT TRUE.  WE BASICALLY DO!  WHY DO YOU INSIST ON MAKING DISAGREEMENT WHERE THERE REALLY IS NONE!?!?  THIS IS MY WHOLE POINT!!!


Quote:
As for my question you got offended by, it's a *reasonable* question to ask, for me, when you always come back with things like "go away" and "just leave."  I've considered donating money to the forum, but it almost feels like  it's just a playtoy for you that you want people to donate into, especially when, after all these disagreements comes the whole "you don't have to be here and I don't need you to be here nor want you to be here" schpiel.

I don't doubt your good intentions for the most part for this site.  

But when you act like you did, the question will, undoubtedly, come up because, hey, who might be next in line for it?


AGAIN,... this is just a function of your not paying attention to the "bigger picture" and seeing how I really treat people, which, in turn, is just a function of your not really being one of the regulars here.  But, furthermore, there is a false inference in what you're suggesting.  Donations don't buy you special treatment (other than being invited into one of the featured leagues I run here, which isn't really "treatment"; it's just a "treat" :D and a way for me to substantively say thank you).  You kind of got the thinking bass-ackwards.  The people who gave (out of the goodness of their hearts) didn't calculate beforehand what their treatment would be after donating.  Quite the contrary, they found themselves treated well "overall" and then donated.  The treatment remains consistent,... and most donate again.

Look,... I'm a straight-shooter.  I wear my heart on my sleeve and let it all hang out here on "the Gridiron", and, actually, doing so is an integral part of what I am up to here, namely, in short, facilitating the development of a message-board forum with an "earn your stripes", but yet friendly attitude and that isn't run amuck with mean-spirited, drivel-filled morons.  Once you get passed the "brute force" of it and reflect on who I really am and how this modus operandi of mine is a very signficant part of molding "the Gridiron" in the aforementioned way, you can come to appreciate both me as a person who, though at times a bit sharp-tongued, is not a two-faced, stab-you-in-the-back asshole AND the "bigger picture" (which really evidently sounds Greek or, better yet, Chinese to those who don't "get it") of both the site and what the guy who is behind the scenes toiling is up to, namely "facilitating" the "earning of stripes" ;) (i.e., if you've withstood the "wrath of Steg", :D you've..., well,... you can put the puzzle together at this point).

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Aug 19th, 2006, 10:43pm
Well, I came into this current discussion a bit late since I was traveling, and, like steelkings, I try to avoid getting involved with things in this thread as a general rule because it never seems to go well for me...

But, Todd, for what it's worth, I think you handled the situation with your son and his friend and the video game exceptionally well. I think my first reaction would have been to just confiscate and/or eradicate the video game, but that wouldn't have accomplished anything in the long run. As a "relatively" new parent (3+ years now), I've found that everyone seems to have advice on how to raise others' children. I've also found that it works best to ignore others' advice because they aren't (and never have/will) raising your child. Only you can do that and you learn how best to motivate specific behavior and thought with your own child.


Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Aug 20th, 2006, 7:57am

Quote:
I've found that everyone seems to have advice on how to raise others' children. I've also found that it works best to ignore others' advice because they aren't (and never have/will) raising your child.


Since you asked for it by not asking for it. Heres some parenting advice for you.

GET TO KNOW YOUR CHILDREN, LOVE YOUR CHILDREN AND RESPECT YOUR CHILDREN. IN TURN, THEY WILL LOVE AND RESPECT YOU, AND LATER CHILDREN OF THEIR OWN.

NOW LETS GET READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by MordecaiCourage on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:00am

on 08/20/06 at 07:57:27, steelkings wrote:
Since you asked for it by not asking for it. Heres some parenting advice for you.

GET TO KNOW YOUR CHILDREN, LOVE YOUR CHILDREN AND RESPECT YOUR CHILDREN. IN TURN, THEY WILL LOVE AND RESPECT YOU, AND LATER CHILDREN OF THEIR OWN.


You handled it nicely...but may I just add one bit of thought here. I do agree with Steg on most points. I think you have to be prepared and willing to put your foot in their "John Brown" hindparts too! There is a delicate balance in disciplining kids. I AM a firm believer in corporal punishment, but not as a "sole" means of discipline. Of course it must be age appropriate as well. Whether you (society) like it or not...a kid (toddler to pre-teen) can recall the "sting" of corporal discipline more readily than the "concious lesson" he may receive from a talk. Mix in both at appropriate levels and you win!! [smiley=fireman.gif]

P.S. I am a father of 4 boys...21, 12, 9, and 6...so, I have learned from my mistakes with the firstborn...honed the craft with my second born...polishing it with my third born... and hopefully perfecting it with the fourth!! And by the way, my 21 year old thinks I should have spanked him MORE!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Aug 20th, 2006, 4:52pm

Quote:
my 21 year old thinks I should have spanked him MORE!!

I sure am glad your 21 year old is a boy!  [smiley=yikes.gif]


And the ugly sex topic has come full circle

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 20th, 2006, 5:52pm
[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=sinister.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:05pm
In case you guys are too busy drafting to notice:

Steg has passed 10,000 posts!

[smiley=cheerleader.gif][smiley=cheerleader.gif][smiley=broncofan.gif] [smiley=band.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Aug 21st, 2006, 8:15am

Quote:
I've considered donating money to the forum, but it almost feels like  it's just a playtoy for you that you want people to donate into


I used to feel like that too. That was long ago. I now realize the amount of work that this "play toy" creates for Steg. Because of that work I have found it to be one of my favorite places.


No Steg, I'm not gonna drink your cool aid


Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Aug 21st, 2006, 8:27am

on 08/20/06 at 23:05:03, Callie wrote:
In case you guys are too busy drafting to notice:

Steg has passed 10,000 posts!

[smiley=cheerleader.gif][smiley=cheerleader.gif][smiley=broncofan.gif] [smiley=band.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif]


Congrats!  [smiley=cheers.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 22nd, 2006, 2:23am

on 08/21/06 at 08:15:04, steelkings wrote:
I used to feel like that too. That was long ago. I now realize the amount of work that this "play toy" creates for Steg.


Not the least of which is...


on 08/20/06 at 23:05:03, Callie wrote:
In case you guys are too busy drafting to notice:

Steg has passed 10,000 posts!

[smiley=cheerleader.gif][smiley=cheerleader.gif][smiley=broncofan.gif] [smiley=band.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif] [smiley=cheerleader.gif]


[smiley=bow.gif] Thank you for the acknowledgment, Call, Phil!  To notice that, when, in fact, I even hadn't, means SO MUCH to me. [smiley=touching.gif] It's a "perspectivizer" that you are recognizing, and I appreciate that.  Those are NOT 10,000 one-liners as yous know.  ...  I'm developing a corpus here that would have Aristotle [smiley=wiseman.gif] bleary-eyed. [smiley=awwgee.gif]

[smiley=booya.gif]


Quote:
Because of that work I have found it to be one of my favorite places.


And, I want to thank you, sk, for getting my back there.  I know, sk,... and others of you,... that you know how a comment (from a fella) like that is SO disheartening to me. :'( Honestly, it's such a blow to me for an instant, that someone could get it and get me SO WRONG, that for that moment I just feel like dropping the whole damn thing.  But, then, I get up, dust myself off, tend to the bumps and bruises and press on.  But, boy, a comment like that really takes the starch right out of me,... but sk's stepping up and responding to it pretty much revitalizes me and restores my faith. [smiley=bow.gif] That's BIG! [smiley=yes.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Sep 9th, 2006, 5:14am
Movin' this to here from where it was not really appropriately posted...


on 08/28/06 at 20:16:59, Callie wrote:
This is just a post from an FF buddy of mine, but I thought it was best placed here.  And I think it's too good to miss:

Ravens Receivers Struggling to Adjust to Passes Hitting Them in the Hands

Hopes are high in Baltimore where the Ravens finally have a legitimate quarterback in Steve McNair. But the former Titans star is having a difficult time developing chemistry with his new receiving corps.

"I just can't get used to McNair's passes," said tight end Todd Heap. "I'm used to having to pluck the ball off of my shoe tops or leap way in the air or twist awkwardly behind me in hopes of getting a finger on the ball. That's how it was with Kyle Boller and Anthony Wright. But Steve's passes are always smacking me square in the chest. It's kind of rude. And it hurts."

Wide receiver Derrick Mason played eight years with McNair in Tennessee before joining the Ravens in 2005, but is struggling to get back on the same page as his longtime quarterback.

"I had to completely unlearn everything I knew about being a wide receiver when I joined the Ravens," said Mason. "I used to expect the ball immediately when I was coming out of my cuts, but I had to realize it could come at any time in Baltimore. It could hit me in the back of my helmet when I wasn't ready. A pass could come my way when I was on the sidelines. I could have a pass thrown to me when I was supposed to be run-blocking. Anything. And the biggest thing was that as a Ravens receiver you play defense first and try to deflect the ball away from the defender before you even think about catching the ball yourself. I had to work so hard to adjust to the way things are done around here, I practically became brainwashed and can't remember anymore what it's like to be a non-Ravens receiver. This having catchable passes actually thrown near you thing takes some getting used to."

But the new Ravens quarterback feels he will eventually start clicking with his receivers.

"Eventually these guys will come to realize that it's a lot easier when the ball is thrown to them," said McNair. "And even if not, I'm sure that the more Brian Billick gets his claws into me I'll start becoming more and more inaccurate, and soon it will be like old times here."


Just doin' my job...

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Sep 11th, 2006, 6:41am
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Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Sep 12th, 2006, 12:43am

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Sep 22nd, 2006, 8:45am
(Along with the spirit of all the spam we attract around here anymore, :-/) I have been, for about a month now, wanting to pimp a product I've been TOTALLY WOWWED by.  I mean I'm not into doing free ads for shit here on my site, but when something is THIS good, and it's fairly NEW on the market, I've got to do my due and get the "good word" out to my friends here.

As many of you know, Gino and I recently moved yet again and were subletting our old place for a couple months.  Anyway, in the moving and renting and moving and renting and moving... process, one thing we kept on forgetting to do was clean the damn toaster-oven which came with the apartment and that we and the other tenants used A LOT (I mean... we gave it a pretty good cleaning once while we were living there and basically kept it clean, but during the original move-out, we forgot to give it a good cleaning and kept forgetting about it as others came and went).  Anyway, when we went for the final move-out the day before our lease expired, we went with some tools, touch-up paint and cleaning materials.  BUT, I forgot to bring the steel wool with us, and when I looked at the toaster-oven I was like... [smiley=yikes.gif] It hadn't had a good cleaning in about six months, and it was pretty bad at this point.  So, I rifled through our stuff, and grabbed this box of scrubby things Gino had bought recently:  Mr. Clean (Extra Power) Magic Erasers.  I thought, "Humbug!"  When I opened the package (of two) and saw these soft spongy things, I thought, "Fuckin' humbug!  We're screwed!  I might as well plan on heading on over to Best Buy on the morrow!"  But, contrary to what I was thinking, I gave it a whack on the oven grates, and to my ABSOLUTE SURPRISE, greasy crap was comin' off NO-PROBLEMO! [smiley=ohshit.gif] I was totally floored!!!  The thing looked brand-spanking new by the time I was done, and I used only ONE sponge.  It was unreal.  Now, if the next tenant's babies come out with three heads or something, [smiley=zombie.gif] I don't know... [smiley=whistle.gif] But, assuming that doesn't happen,... these things are the REAL DEAL AS ADVERTISED!!!  I couldn't believe that this soft sponge was cutting through the shit it was,... grease, baked-on food grime, etc., etc.  No piping hot water, no soaking, no elbow grease to the point of tendinitous, no sharp, rough-on-your-hands steel wool!  It was UNreal!

Gridiron Ladies and Gents, if yous have any steel wool/brillo pad-type cleaning/scrubbing to do, pick these things up.  They will make your lives SO MUCH EASIER!  Mr. Clean (Extra Power) Magic Erasers!!! [smiley=cheerleader.gif] I'm sold!  I actually haven't seen any commercials for them lately.  I hope they don't give up making them.  Here's the site:

http://www.homemadesimple.com/sites/en_US/mrclean/index.shtml.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Oakland4life on Sep 22nd, 2006, 2:56pm
Yea, those Mr. Clean magic erasers are the real deal. I don't know how I would live without them.  I have 5 kids and those things work on walls, counters, bathtubs, EVERYTHING.  Just wipe, and PRESTO its clean 8-)

Theres no shame in pimping out this product.  These erasers are a god send.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Sep 23rd, 2006, 7:58am

Quote:
THIS good, and it's fairly NEW on the market


Geez! I hate to burst your bubble. [smiley=dejected.gif] I thought you Island guys [smiley=palmtree.gif] were just a few hours behind the techno advanced hoosiers. This may come as a shock :o but we have been using the Magic sponge for 2 years here. We have indoor plumbing too!
For you penny pinchers, [smiley=twocents.gif] You can go to a professional cleaning company and buy a Chem sponge for about 10 bucks each. They have been a big secret for about 10 years. Same thing just about 10 times the size. Cut the sponge into Mr.clean size sponges using your razor knife and save a bunch! You can find the proffesional cleaning supplies company in the phone book. You do have phone books? If not you can order a dry chem sponge on-line.


Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Oct 4th, 2006, 1:14pm
ISNT THERE A DANCE CALLED THE TEXAS STOMP?



http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/football/nfl/10/01/bc.fbn.titans.haynesworth.ap/T1_1001_stomp.jpg

ANDRE GURODE
http://www.dallascowboyscheerleaders.com/images/Gurode_Andre_150.jpg

Andre was quoted as saying. " Albert's shoe tastes just like chicken  [smiley=chicken.gif]"

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Oct 11th, 2006, 4:08am
Guys, I know this is already a bit of an old story now,... but it's still on my mind, at any rate, and, well, the MLB playoffs are ongoing, so...  It's something about which I'd be curious to hear what you guys have to say...  Write 'til your heart's content or be very pithy or just cast your vote...  Should Buck O'Neil, the great ambassador of baseball, former negro leaguer and first black MLB coach, who fell just ONE vote short of making the Hall of Fame this past year, HAVE been voted into the Baseball Hall of Fame this past year (so he could have "experienced" it)?  And, should he be?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by cwhams on Oct 16th, 2006, 9:34pm
[smiley=yes.gif]O'Neil served as a first baseman and manager in the Negro Leagues from 1937-1955. In 1962, O'Neil became the first African-American coach in
the Major Leagues with the Chicago Cubs, coaching
future Hall of Famers Ernie Banks, Billy Williams and
Lou Brock. He starred in two Negro League World
Series and won a Negro National League batting title.
As a manager of the Kansas City Monarchs, Buck was
responsible for more than three dozen baseball players
going to Major League organizations, including Ernie Banks.

In my book that qualifies you for the hall of fame.  There is still a great deal of discrimination and if any of yous guys are as old as me you remember that the Civil Rights Act did not come about until 1964.  The fact that O'Neal was a major league coach in 1962 is amazing.  He's got my vote!  [smiley=clap.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DirkDiggler on Oct 20th, 2006, 11:02am
I usually do not post jokes and stuff like that, but here is one article that I defy you not to laugh at:

http://www.thephatphree.com/features.asp?StoryID=3159&SectionID=2


Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Oct 20th, 2006, 10:50pm
First off, I canNOT believe no one else has a "hallowed opinion" about Buck O'Neil.  In short, I think it is terribly sad that he wasn't voted in last year while he was alive.  I hope the miserable rue reporters that wouldn't vote for him are, not met by horrible calamities, but are deprived of just the amount of happiness they deprived him and his family when they are in such a position to experience it.

Second,... yes,... Stevo, I cracked a smile, BUT by the end was ill (I actually quit about half the way down).  The person who wrote that has WAY too much time on their hands.  Much MORE productive, virtuous and useful activities could be pursued in the not insignificant amount of time that dude had to have spent writing that.  It was funny for a paragraph.  After that, it was just dumb.

Third,... Jamo, whoever,... what the hell is going on up there in Wisconsin?  The murders, the disappearances, the whack-job professors... and now THIS... from "The REAL Feed":

Wis. grocery clerk accused in Internet hoax threatening stadiums; charges could bring 5 years (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/10/20/2020.ap.fbn.football.threat.14th.ld.writethru.0753/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (20.10.2006 19:46)

DA: Wis. grocery clerk charged in stadium hoax says he posted threat 40 times past few weeks (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/10/20/2020.ap.fbn.football.threat.8th.ld.writethru.0674/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (20.10.2006 15:03)

Must be some AWESOME kb [smiley=kb.gif] up there... [smiley=bonghit.gif] and, again, way too much free time.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
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Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by cwhams on Nov 1st, 2006, 9:23pm
[smiley=elephant.gif]  Mrs. C.W. is running for Regional Superintendent of Schools...election date November 7, 2006.  Predecessor ran out of office on the heels of 66 mostly felony counts against himself and his wife...lots of clean up and damage control.  Important election in this area for voters and students.

If you are so inclined, say a prayer for all politicians and voters as they make important choices all across the country this comming Tuesday and thanks. [smiley=rifle.gif]  [smiley=plug.gif]  [smiley=ready4war.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Nov 2nd, 2006, 3:17am

on 11/01/06 at 21:23:44, cwhams wrote:
[smiley=elephant.gif]  Mrs. C.W. is running for Regional Superintendent of Schools...election date November 7, 2006.


No way...  That's awesome! [smiley=woohoo.gif] I'll make sure to tell my mom to vote for you! [smiley=yes.gif] I will tell her to pass the info on to whatever other family we have back there...  Not many, and, furthermore, a lot of... the other party. :-/ But, hey, it couldn't hurt. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Nov 2nd, 2006, 3:37pm

on 11/01/06 at 21:23:44, cwhams wrote:
[smiley=elephant.gif]  Mrs. C.W. is running for Regional Superintendent of Schools...election date November 7, 2006.  Predecessor ran out of office on the heels of 66 mostly felony counts against himself and his wife...lots of clean up and damage control.  Important election in this area for voters and students.

If you are so inclined, say a prayer for all politicians and voters as they make important choices all across the country this comming Tuesday and thanks. [smiley=rifle.gif]  [smiley=plug.gif]  [smiley=ready4war.gif]


I live near enough to Steve's mom to be in the same voting district.  Are we voters in your wife's election?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Nov 2nd, 2006, 5:30pm
Ehhhhhh...  Sorry for the confusion... :-[ I just read the "C.W." part, and given her wonderful presence here, my mind went -> Cheryl Wall... a.k.a. Callie, and I responded thusly, but, in the back of my mind, I was "surprised" that this "came out of nowhere",... knowing Cheryl, that is.  Anyway, it was late. [smiley=yawn.gif] I was tired,... [smiley=tired.gif] which seems to be all I am these days. :-/ I apologize so for the mix-up. :-[

Chuck, best of luck [smiley=shammy.gif] to your wife in her election bid.  I remember when speaking with your son last week to ask him about taking over the Bears report, he mentioned the parade you guys had just been in earlier that day.  Neat stuff!  I am sorry that I don't have any family or (close enough) friends that lives out that way that I could influence. :-/

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Nov 2nd, 2006, 5:57pm
Thanks, Steg.  We got our sample ballot today, and I didn't see anything like that in there.  So I asked.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by cwhams on Nov 2nd, 2006, 8:36pm
[smiley=angel.gif]  Hey guys, it's not the vote that really counts...it's the whole spirit of the thing.  

I appreciate your kind words of encouragement..it helps make one more call and knock on one more door.

Not about Democrats and Republicans either...it's about good government and the best person for the job...we vote on both sides of the ticket.

I just wish people put half as much thought into who runs the country as they do fantasy teams.

This whole fantasy football thing is a great digression from my work, so I appreciate it and all the good folks that participate here. [smiley=awwgee.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by cwhams on Nov 15th, 2006, 4:41pm
[smiley=duel.gif]  For the record we lost a very close race, winning one county and losing the other by a large enough margin to lose.

Looks like more of the same in Scenic Southern Illinois.
[smiley=itllbeok.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Dec 1st, 2006, 9:30am
Todd the racist is here to throw caution to the wind. Heres the question. Who is was the whitest guy in the booth last nite? Collinworth or Bryant Gumble? Gumble may be the worst play by play guy in the business. It was a horrid broadcast. If its not bad enough to listen to Gumble, I had to endure the game in analog quality. I can hardly stand to watch football unless its in HD anymore. anyway, I'm not one to point out problems without providing a solid solution. The problem is who could we add to the booth to moisten up the dryest broadcast in the history of the NFL along with making people forget about the analog picture.

The solution = Dave Chappell

http://images.imvu.com/catalog/images/sticker_images/638045_dave%20chappell%20done%20sticker.jpg

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Dec 17th, 2006, 8:54am
Talk about dedication...  As I was sitting here in the wee hours putting the pieces of "the Gridiron" back together here, I felt that I was getting increasingly ill (you know... [smiley=no.gif]).  I just yacked my guts out... :-X Don't tell me I don't give it up for yous... ;) I gotta hit the hay... before 4... and before I feel like I have to go "another round"... [smiley=boxer.gif] ... See yous on the come-around... [smiley=wavinbye.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Dec 17th, 2006, 1:00pm

on 12/17/06 at 08:54:02, StegRock wrote:
Talk about dedication...  As I was sitting here in the wee hours putting the pieces of "the Gridiron" back together here, I felt that I was getting increasingly ill (you know... [smiley=no.gif]).  I just yacked my guts out... :-X Don't tell me I don't give it up for yous... ;) I gotta hit the hay... before 4... and before I feel like I have to go "another round"... [smiley=boxer.gif] ... See yous on the come-around... [smiley=wavinbye.gif]


Fellas,... it's been a looooong night or, should I say, short nice... [smiley=stars.gif] I expected to be back in full force starting today,... but that's looking not to be the case.  GBRFLeaguers, especially, I'm gonna need yas to be patient.  I expected today to be catch-up Sunday.  That all of sudden isn't looking to be the case.  I'm sorry. :-[ I've got to prepare for round... (Ding!  Ding!  Ding!) [smiley=boxer.gif] ... [smiley=onit.gif] ... [smiley=wavinbye.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Dec 22nd, 2006, 7:46pm
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/steelkings/bad20santa-723774.jpg


Have A Cool Yule

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Dec 31st, 2006, 8:12pm
If I was Steg, Or the Steelers pulled what the bronk's did, I wouldn't be able to make audible sounds for a week. That sucked. Being in a position to take that running game to Indy. I mean really, what a blown opportunity. I say we start the fire Shanahan website right here.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Dec 31st, 2006, 8:15pm
Works for me, so long as Shanarat doesn't come back to Oakland!  ;D

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jan 3rd, 2007, 7:03am
Holy crap...  I've never been a Microsoft hater.  There are surely things they, and all the upper-echelon computer geek powers-that-be, do that I don't think is advisable, namely push the technology ahead too fast and without plugging and tidying things up first, which does cause numerous problems that necessitates back-pedaling.  BUT, I just got scorned tonight.  My "Windows Updates" asked me if I wanted to upgrade to Internet Explorer 7.0.  I did,... and get this...  I don't know if any of yous have this 7.0, but, one thing I realized/noticed right off the bat is that your favorites apparently get routed through Google, i.e., you have to have/sign up for a Google account to retrieve your bookmarks list.  WTF is up with that?  I don't want to have to have a Google account just because I'm using IE 7.0.  Haven't they already tread thinly on the anti-trust ice!?!?  Don't do that, Bill!!! [smiley=annoyed.gif] This is not to mention that your browser window in IE 7.0 is smaller, at least if you have Norton installed on your computer, which takes up two toolbar rows. :-/ ... That's... [smiley=bs.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Jan 3rd, 2007, 12:05pm
I'm using 7.0, and I have no idea what you're talking about.   ?.?.?

My Favorites & History are on the menu bar, as before, and also come up when you hit the little star icon.

You can make your browser window larger by getting rid of a bunch of the stuff on top and condensing or closing menu bars.  At least that's all how it worked for me.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Tony_O on Jan 4th, 2007, 12:26am
Yeah, same with me....I'm using 7.0 and didn't have any problems with my favorites!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by rickgpin on Jan 5th, 2007, 9:37pm
i heard about alot of issues with 7.0 and am sticking with a prior version until all of the bugs are worked out.  

let me know when it is safe....

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DB on Jan 14th, 2007, 9:19am
Yeah when I first upgraded to 7.0, my favorites were not there.  Turns out the menu bar was not on and when I brought that back, I could then get to my favorites.  When I click on bookmarks it asks for a Google account.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by cwhams on Jan 18th, 2007, 8:08pm
CTRL+Shift+I

That turns it back on.


Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Jan 19th, 2007, 5:34pm
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/steelkings/Sarasota2007107.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/steelkings/Sarasota2007106.jpg

Rescued Sea Turtle At Mote Marine In Sarasota Florida.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Jan 19th, 2007, 5:37pm
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/steelkings/Sarasota2007017.jpg

For Those Who Could Use Some!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Feb 7th, 2007, 9:31am
WHAT IS GLOBAL WARMING?
Carbon dioxide and other gases warm the surface of the planet naturally by trapping solar heat in the atmosphere. This is a good thing because it keeps our planet habitable. However, by burning fossil fuels such as coal, gas and oil and clearing forests we have dramatically increased the amount of carbon dioxide in the Earth’s atmosphere and temperatures are rising.
The vast majority of scientists agree that global warming is real, it’s already happening and that it is the result of our activities and not a natural occurrence. The evidence is overwhelming and undeniable.
We’re already seeing changes. Glaciers are melting, plants and animals are being forced from their habitat, and the number of severe storms and droughts is increasing.
The number of Category 4 and 5 hurricanes has almost doubled in the last 30 years.
Malaria has spread to higher altitudes in places like the Colombian Andes, 7,000 feet above sea level.
The flow of ice from glaciers in Greenland has more than doubled over the past decade.
At least 279 species of plants and animals are already responding to global warming, moving closer to the poles.

If the warming continues, we can expect catastrophic consequences.

Deaths from global warming will double in just 25 years -- to 300,000 people a year.
Global sea levels could rise by more than 20 feet with the loss of shelf ice in Greenland and Antarctica, devastating coastal areas worldwide.
Heat waves will be more frequent and more intense.
Droughts and wildfires will occur more often.
The Arctic Ocean could be ice free in summer by 2050.
More than a million species worldwide could be driven to extinction by 2050.

For more info: Watch "An Inconvienient Truth" Share it with your children.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Feb 7th, 2007, 9:44am
Interesting how the report on global warming comes out just as a new ice age settles upon us.  ::)

For those who are all gung ho about buying into Al Gore and his Global Warming campaign (remember, this is the same guy that invented the internet ;)), you may want to read the following article that I came across in a magazine I get. It was written by a very well-respected professor at Penn. It's not politically charged either, as the professor said he's voted for Gore in the past and he'd do it again.

Global Warming Hoax (http://www.phillymag.com/articles/science_al_gore_is_a_greenhouse_gasbag)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Feb 7th, 2007, 12:48pm
This is a good article concerning the views of the scientific community actually involved in the field.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/deweese051806.htm

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Feb 7th, 2007, 9:16pm
SK?  Anybody?

I was hoping to see replies to the articles that Philly and I linked to here.  Everything so far is noting the current views out there.  Obviously, SK & Philly & I are interested.  

And obviously there is a lot more to talk about.  [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by MordecaiCourage on Feb 8th, 2007, 12:39am
Though I tend to agree with Mr. Giegengack and Mr. DeWeese that the current "trend" of  thinking about Global Warming is overdone, I think to just blow it off as nothing but fanatical doomsday talk is in itself "not too bright" either. There will always be those who think that the world's demise will be due to either global warming or freezing.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Feb 8th, 2007, 7:09am
http://www.mcmillenandwife.com/

I dropped the global warming nugget on the message board above. (Home page to the link to message board to the thread "Global Warming") I find if funny that when ever I bring this subject up I end up very alone on the side of the enviroment. On the message boards I started that thread then waited all day to see where it would go.  Here at the Grid It drew the interest of three others. It could be that there is not alot of people over here at the grid. At the site above I found almost 30 hits along with one guy fighting a very heated debate. I found myself and one other guy willing to argue on the side of the enviroment against 8 who didnt want to consider GW because it was introduced by Al Gore. So far the overall tone from the left is: do a few things to improve your relationship with the earth. As in practicing carbon neutrality by buying a carbon offset . In other words; When you screw the enviroment, plant a tree. Kind of a self imposed fine per say. The tone from the right is: Because Gore created the internet he is full of crap. Global warming is a hoax and gets in the way of our comfortable lives. The fact that just 2 out of 10 human beings are willing to consider human behaviors a threat to weaken our eco system is scary to me. Maybe thats a little over dramatic, but take the sea turtle three pictures up. His kind is facing extinction as the sea temps rise. As the water temps go up in the oceans, the alkalinity increases. It basically burns out the coral reefs. Bleaching if you will.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/bigphotos/images/warming-coral_big.jpg

Look, people willing to talk about GW is at least a good thing. No matter what side you are on. Articles like the one Jeff presented are very dangerous. Lots of good points to the arguement, but a tool for people to use in order to justify poor enviromental choices. Callies writer is a lobbyist/activist who is strongly against any governmental sanctions or limitations used to limit U.S manufacturing. He was a huge proponent to the koyoto Treaty. You have to consider the sourse.
With that said we all should air on the side of the enviroment. It doesn't mean dont drive your car. It simply means change a few things that wont terribly disrupt your life. Here's a few.

1. Change your closet lighting to floresent bulbs. Do the same with your outdoor lighting.
2.Curbside recycle your paper and plastics. Really, its easy.
3. Use cloth rags instead of paper towels. If you must use paper towels use those made of recycled materials. They are in every grocery.
4. Unplug your cell phone charger when its not in use.
5. Reuse the plasic bags from the grocery store.
6. Cut your grass after 6pm.
7. Take used up batterys with you to Walmart. They will take them. Just dont throw them in your trash. If your really into it, use rechargables.
8. After your Escalade gets to expensive to put gas in, Buy a hybrid.

These things arent political posturing. They are simply responsible living. It amounts too; If you want to smoke...fine...Just dont dump your cars ashtray in the street.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Feb 8th, 2007, 10:56am

on 02/08/07 at 07:09:35, steelkings wrote:
I find if funny that when ever I bring this subject up I end up very alone on the side of the enviroment.

I'm hardly anti-environment. Listen, I fully support efforts to improve the environment. I'm all for clean air and water, habitat preservation, responsible use, etc. I enjoy the outdoors and get irritated even seeing a gum wrapper floating down the river I'm canoeing. But there's SO MUCH more to the global warming scare than just environmental issues. It's a political football (pun intended here) pure and simple.


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Look, people willing to talk about GW is at least a good thing. No matter what side you are on. Articles like the one Jeff presented are very dangerous. Lots of good points to the arguement, but a tool for people to use in order to justify poor enviromental choices.
Dangerous? Really? Did you read the entire article? Dr. Giegenback refuted the scare tactics and unfounded conclusions that people like Gore (naming him because he's the highest profile guy fighting this battle) are using, more for political benefit than environmental gain. But at the end of the article, he indicated that more awareness to environmental issues WAS necessary and a good thing.


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With that said we all should air on the side of the enviroment. It doesn't mean dont drive your car. It simply means change a few things that wont terribly disrupt your life. Here's a few.
Is this, ultimately, your goal and message here? If so, that's great. And we could probably take it further to include doing things that WILL disrupt your life, but have a positive goal in mind.

But in your first post you went to great length to talk about the impending doom and end of the world, which I feel is irresponsible. Environmental awareness is one thing... political lobbying using unfounded information is another. What is Al Gore saying about this terribly cold weather in the northern US that has caused a number of deaths? If it continues, I imagine he and his funders and lobbyists will be looking to blame someone in the government for it. If it was a few million years ago and an impending ice age was threatening to send all the dinosaurs to extinction, what would tune would you and Al Gore be singing? I'm sure that there would be some political message involved. (Or there's be a conspiracy theory indicating that there never were any dinosaurs... the CIA just planted some bones somewhere to make us believe that they existed at one time.)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Feb 8th, 2007, 1:22pm
OK, so obviously none of us here want to go out and intentionally destroy the planet.  But the argument, as usual, is all about whose version of reality to believe, not about how to at least try to accomplish something positive.  Your own post strongly promoted one polarized version of reality.  I pretty much did the same thing by addressing your comment that the vast majority of scientists support the view you were presenting, with the article that I linked as a rebuttal.  You responded by casting doubts on the motives of the author of that article.  Should I just respond with one of the lists of the lies of Al Gore that you can find all over the internet or with comments on the obvious agenda of Al?  The article I linked also made the point that pro GW people have the biggest pulpit due to the fact that the grant money flows that way and that the media and some politicians have chosen to ride the issue for their own gain.  Those media outlets and those politicians wouldn't get as much mileage out of intelligent programs to avoid environmental damage where possible.  And their opponents have no intention of wringing their hands over bad science and the propaganda it is conveniently generating.

Bottom line, the real enemy, as usual, it politics.  The only way to see through politics to reality is to avoid falling for the "his sister is a known thespian" type of thing, the fear tactics, and all the other bunko they throw at us from both sides of the aisle.  But the vast majority of Americans fall into the "duct tape and plastic" mentality.  (I actually worked with highly educated people when that nonsense came out, who were suprised when I told them that if they could actually seal themselves off well enough to avoid chemical or biological weapons they'd suffocate.)

So I may not be a climatologist, but I do read up on the science presented by climatologists.  We can bash each other's sources all day.  I like mine better than yours.  We can agree to recycle and so on, but that's to make ourselves feel good.  For now, our best move is to keep our own "house" clean and to hold feet to the fire for some documentation of the claims being made by self-serving politicians and media outlets.  Things that can be observed and replicated (like core samples).  You know, something more than "You can trust me, I'm important!"   ;D

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Feb 8th, 2007, 1:29pm

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But in your first post you went to great length to talk about the impending doom and end of the world, which I feel is irresponsible. Environmental awareness is one thing... political lobbying using unfounded information is another.


First off I didnt write the doom and gloom article. I thought I included the author in my post but I must have missed it during the cut and paste. Somehow I'm sure you already knew that.
More importantly, sometimes Gloom and doom is what it takes to nudge people. Example: I post a picture of a rescued sea turtle. Not one response. I post a picture of the sun. Again nothing. I'll bet I could have posted:

http://www.keelynet.com/bearpolar.jpg and still got nothing. How about if I would have posted:

http://www.coolantarctica.com/images/larsenB_170202.jpg
Larsen B ice shelf, 17th Feb 2002

http://www.coolantarctica.com/images/larsenB_050302.jpg
Larsen B ice shelf, 5th March 2002 (16 days later)

I'm sure no-one would have taken the time to comment. What did it is what does it every time. At the bottem of my Doom and Gloom post was Al gore. Its the thing no-one can seem to get past. Its like a trip wire. There is no doubt that Global Warming is real. No-one in the scientific community is disputing that. What is being disputed is mans involvement. It somehow amazes me that people quickly squak about how Gore has an agenda. Enviromentalists = Liberals for Gore. Enviromentalist think the other side (Big Energy) has the opposite agenda. I'm sure they do. They obviously dont want people scared to buy their product. Here's the rub. We have to pick a side. I'm gonna error on the side of the enviromentalists. If they are wrong then opp's. If big energy is wrong then Uh Oh too late. Make no mistake, I dont need a politican to tell me that there are lots more cars on the road than there was 10 years ago. I can see that for myself.  I also see less and less trees and greenways as our suburbs stretch outward and our cities get bigger.( Callie, You can really see it when you drive to Kattanning.) We dump pestisides on everything. We turn forest after forest into "Post It's" and other convienent products. Have you ever looked behind your Walmart? Stevie Wonder could see the hundreds of plastic bags littered around. With my eyes open I can see that it is likly that man casts a heavy weight on the balance of the eco system.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Feb 8th, 2007, 1:39pm
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/Major_greenhouse_gas_trends.png
Kyoto
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Kyoto_Protocol_participation_map_2005.png/800px-Kyoto_Protocol_participation_map_2005.png


It amazes me that most of the world looks at the united states as a pretentious uncooperative nation.
Purhaps the green countries dont know of Al Gore.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Feb 8th, 2007, 2:07pm

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For now, our best move is to keep our own "house" clean and to hold feet to the fire for some documentation of the claims being made by self-serving politicians and media outlets.


Wrong. Not just a little. Thats a lot wrong. I dont need anymore science or "PROOF". Here's what I need. How bout a large tax break for any american auto manufacturing company to produce affordable hybrids that cut down on fuel emmisions by 50 percent. How about if you dont seperate your trash for recycling you pay extra. Instead of vice versa. How bout our U.S government use all recycled paper products for their office supplies. How bout spending some of the billions of dollars we spend to finance a war on major city mass transit systems. Eliminate the use of vinyl siding on homes. Vinyl is one of the biggest oil using polluting munufacturers in the world today. Not to mention ugly.
We sacrifice our children, we sacrifice air, We comprimise our planet all for the protection of highly profitable oil companies. Its time to demand a different source of energy! Not just keep our own house clean.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Feb 8th, 2007, 2:53pm
My son, Bless him, after reading over my shoulder what I had been writing called me a Hypocrite then whipped an empty Ice Mountain water bottle out of my trash can. Thats right.....HYPO-CRY-TE. The nut doesnt fall far from the tree. Be that as it may. My house isnt very clean. If you know what I mean.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Feb 8th, 2007, 3:25pm

on 02/08/07 at 14:07:09, steelkings wrote:
Wrong. Not just a little. Thats a lot wrong. I dont need anymore science or "PROOF". Here's what I need. How bout a large tax break for any american auto manufacturing company to produce affordable hybrids that cut down on fuel emmisions by 50 percent. How about if you dont seperate your trash for recycling you pay extra. Instead of vice versa. How bout our U.S government use all recycled paper products for their office supplies. How bout spending some of the billions of dollars we spend to finance a war on major city mass transit systems. Eliminate the use of vinyl siding on homes. Vinyl is one of the biggest oil using polluting munufacturers in the world today. Not to mention ugly.
We sacrifice our children, we sacrifice air, We comprimise our planet all for the protection of highly profitable oil companies. Its time to demand a different source of energy! Not just keep our own house clean.


This is the type of thing I meant by keeping our own house (country, efforts, whatever) clean.  (It's a metaphor.  ;D)  We can't control China, India, etc., only convince them or give pressure/incentives.  We can control ourselves.

Also, I said politics was the problem, and you proved my point.  Kyoto is a political boondoggle, not an honest plan for the benefit of all.  That's why we didn't endorse it.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Feb 8th, 2007, 3:29pm

on 02/08/07 at 13:29:40, steelkings wrote:
First off I didnt write the doom and gloom article. I thought I included the author in my post but I must have missed it during the cut and paste. Somehow I'm sure you already knew that.
No, you didn't provide any credit for your doom and gloom article. You did mention Al Gore's documentary at the end, so my assumption (apparently faulty?) was that you had gleaned the information from the movie.


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More importantly, sometimes Gloom and doom is what it takes to nudge people. Example: I post a recued sea turtle. Not one response. I post a picture of the sun. Again nothing.
I had no idea why you were posting the rescued turtle. I thought maybe you just liked turtles. Then when you posted the picture of the sun, my thought was that you were showing a heat source because it was so cold in the midwest and northeast. I'm not sure how you expected anyone to respond to your posts.


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I'll bet I could have posted:

http://www.keelynet.com/bearpolar.jpg and still got nothing.
You may have gotten a comment like "cute bear" or something. But again, you would have been taking a picture and adding your own context to it. Maybe it's just a polar bear trying to get to the other ice floe to grab a fish?


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How about if I would have posted:
http://www.coolantarctica.com/images/larsenB_170202.jpg
Larsen B ice shelf, 17th Feb 2002

http://www.coolantarctica.com/images/larsenB_050302.jpg
Larsen B ice shelf, 5th March 2002 (16 days later)

I'm sure no-one would have taken the time to comment.
Those pictures are absent of meaning. What exactly does it show? That the temperature was warmer than usual for a 16-day period! Seriously, that would be like me taking a picture of people walking around in shorts in Philadelphia on January 6th when the temperature rose into the 70s and then posting another picture of people wearing multiple parkas, babushkas, scarves, etc. in Philadelphia on February 6th -- a mere 30 days later -- when the wind chills were 20 below zero. Would those pictures have provided any real information about the global climate or recent/future trends? Absolutely not. My wife is in Northern Greenland right now. She hasn't mentioned any ice shelves melting during her time there. The base she is staying at is right on the coast, and has been for some time now and plans to be for quite a while into the future. I saw a picture and it looked like everything was snow covered, so I asked her about it and she said they rarely get snow up there and that most of it blows off of the polar ice caps and settles in the valley where she is. So, maybe your picture isn't showing ice melting. Maybe there was a snowfall in the first picture and then the wind blew the snow away by the second picture?

Then you do it again with your charts. It's more scare tactics. If you re-read Dr. Giegengack's article, you note that he has scientific evidence that during other periods of warming there was an abundance of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, yet there weren't SUVs and oil refineries during those times. Just lots of beautiful, unspoiled nature. Can you show me your charts again and stretch the time period out over 100 years? 1000 years? 100,000 years? Would it be safe to assume that you have no interest in those?

And the Kyoto Protocol... Your snide remark regarding the appearance of the US to the rest of the world missed the mark. Maybe you could have explained that your friend Al Gore himself signed the treaty, but would not ratify it. The Senate voted UNANIMOUSLY that the US should not ratify the treaty because of some serious flaws in the treaty. That's both sides of the aisle, liberal and conservative. China and India, two of the world's worst countries in terms of emission of so-called Greenhouse Gases, were completely exempted from the treaty. Any wonder why they signed it? It's a nice little protocol, but it has no teeth.

And the only reason I keep mentioning Al Gore is because he's championing the charge and you mentioned him in the first place. I don't care if it was Santa Claus that was trying to scare people with a lot of half truths and convenient statistics. I'm not letting George Bush and his oil buddies off easy either. They've deliberately suppressed or changed reports involving greenhouse gases because of politics and profits. That's the problem with making the environment a political issue. It causes both sides to lie about it.

But there is a lot of positive work being done to reduce emissions of these gases. If you're really interested, just go to the Wikipedia article where you grabbed your charts and graphs and read on...

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Feb 8th, 2007, 5:25pm

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I thought maybe you just liked turtles. Then when you posted the picture of the sun, my thought was that you were showing a heat source because it was so cold in the midwest and northeast. I'm not sure how you expected anyone to respond to your posts.

Thats nice! You know what I ment. I posted those pictures for your enjoyment. Dont play stupid. The point is simple. There is no conversation without the original post. Lets look at how it could have been different.

Question: How bout that global warming?
Answer: Its warm

Whether we choose to agree or not this conversation is good.


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If you re-read Dr. Giegengack's article, you note that he has scientific evidence that during other periods of warming there was an abundance of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, yet there weren't SUVs and oil refineries during those times. Just lots of beautiful, unspoiled nature.

I'm in construction. We use propane heaters to heat the rooms we work in in the winter. If the CO gets to high you get a head ache. To fix this you simply step out of the room for a while. I have anouther friend who travels to LA for business from here in Indy from time to time. he always comes back wheezing. It doesnt take a chart to know that carbon dioxide at high levels are bad. Right now they are high all over the world.

But since you asked
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Carbon_Dioxide_400kyr.png


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And the only reason I keep mentioning Al Gore is because he's championing the charge and you mentioned him in the first place.


You mentioned him in the first place


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For those who are all gung ho about buying into Al Gore and his Global Warming campaign (remember, this is the same guy that invented the internet )


Which is back to the point that no-one can talk about carbon emmisions without first beating up Al Gore.



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It's a nice little protocol, but it has no teeth.


Thats exactly what it is. A nice little protocol. As leaders of the free world we should be willing to set an example by ratifying the kyoto or setting national standards of our own. You go on to say:

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there is a lot of positive work being done to reduce emissions of these gases


Yea, at the state level. With limited funding. This current coal loving, oil loving administration isnt going to bite the hand that feeds it. The 2005 failed energy bill was great. 8 billion dollars in tax breaks and subsidies to big oil. That had emmision controls written all over it. The kyoto treaty would have asked the United States to lower emmisions by 7% under the 1990 levels. We managed to lower levels because of local state governments by.07 %. Not nearly enough.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27318-2005Feb15_2.html


Many environmentalists are getting behind a proposal by Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Joseph I. Lieberman (D-Conn.) that would impose modest emission limits in the United States and establish a trading system analogous to Kyoto to give American companies a financial incentive to develop technologies that lower emissions.

McCain said Thursday that it is time to end the wrangling over global warming. If scientists are wrong about the catastrophic consequences of greenhouse gases, efforts to limit emissions would still result in cleaner air and a more competitive industrial base, he said.

"Given the high stakes involved -- the future of our children and our grandchildren, not to mention the future of the planet as we inherited it -- which approach are you willing to bet on?" he asked.



Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Feb 8th, 2007, 9:49pm
Erring on the side of caution is a good idea generally, but that isn't what's happening here.  Self-interested politicians are cherry picking their stats in order to gain power by distorting the overall picture.  Their publicity games are distorting the total reality in an attempt to gain blind public acceptance for their overall political agendas.  The same thing happened in the middle ages.  I don't want to see the surpression of science and facts in the name of pandering politicians.

To deny reality in order to feel better about some "plastic and duct tape" junk science is pretty much the same thing that was done to Galileo - men who wanted power at the expense of the truth were willing to surpress any truth to get their power.  Those who refuse to know history are doomed to repeat past mistakes, because humans do not change.  The way this thing is going almost ensures that inaccuracies will be accepted for the benefit of a few selfish idiots.  Just think of the advances for the world that could be trashed to the gutter for the needs of the selfish.  What could we learn to make things better for the people who need them most.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Feb 8th, 2007, 10:17pm
Maybe you're just giving me too much credit. I honestly had no idea why you were posting the pictures of the turtle and the sun. There wasn't much in the way of a caption to clue me in on your intents.

Also, it's getting silly, but you mentioned Al Gore in your initial post about global warming when you told us to go watch his propaganda flick.

I just wonder why global warming started getting a ton of press last fall (when democrats were hoping to gain a majority during the elections) and now it's a hot (pun intended) topic again with all of the Democrats throwing their names into fray for the 2008 presidential election. Why didn't you post anything about this a year ago, or two years ago? It wasn't trendy enough then?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Feb 9th, 2007, 7:03am
Not that I'm under a rock or anything, but I didnt see the movie till last week. After doing some other reading Im on board.


I have no arguement that this issue is being used as a political pawn. What issue isnt? I have no doubt that Gore will probably jump into the 2008 race at any moment. Really, any day now. But this issue isnt just a  democratic issue. The republicans are also on board. Both parties are talking about it. However the party battle lines are drawn(NPI)on the war in Iraq. Thats why GW needs to be an issue on everyones lips now. Scare tactics or not, we cant let this, as well as every other social issue get sweep under the doormat of the Iraqi war.


Quote:
Erring on the side of caution is a good idea generally, but that isn't what's happening here.  Self-interested politicians are cherry picking their stats in order to gain power by distorting the overall picture.  Their publicity games are distorting the total reality in an attempt to gain blind public acceptance for their overall political agendas.


Sadly its easy to cherry pick stats when there is so many stats to choose from. Somehow I havent seen any of the distorted ones though. Throw an example at me. Not a writers ramblings. Stats plain and simple. Theres tons of stats to sift thru. Thats the scary part.

Blind public acceptance is a real treat. Theres never blind public acceptance over anything in this country.


Quote:
Also, it's getting silly, but you mentioned Al Gore in your initial post about global warming when you told us to go watch his propaganda flick.


Have you seen it?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Feb 9th, 2007, 11:59am
I'm not a scientist, so any stats I threw at you would be the work of others.  We both could google terms and get all sorts of stats from both sides of the argument.

The bottom line is this:  Correlation does not equal causation.  (When I'm smiling, no birds fly into my window.  Therefore smiling keeps the birds away.  You can't prove a negative.)  We can prove that the CO2 levels have always fluctuated and were this high before we were a part of the equation.  We can prove that the most common state of the Earth is warmer than now and that the amount of energy from the sun fluctuates.  And so on and so on and so on.  What we can't prove is a correlation to human activities.

I don't mind caution.  I do mind the twisting of facts to serve political purposes.  I've been saying this all along, so I guess I'm just repeating myself now.  So I guess I should stop there.

Edit:  BTW, I forgot to add that real scientists are having a field day debunking Gore's movie.  It's loaded with inaccuracies (you can find all that on the web, too.)  If you watched the movie as a launch point for your beliefs on the topic, you're building a construct based on incorrect assumptions.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Feb 9th, 2007, 12:37pm
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h246/pyxant/godzillafire3.jpg

I'm sure your gonna tell me this isn't real either! :o

I'll be back later. Ive got to find an open sewer drain to discard my last oil change in. ;)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Feb 9th, 2007, 12:45pm
;D

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by cwhams on Feb 13th, 2007, 7:14am
Speaking of Hybrid cars, has anyone out there actually driven one?  The only one that seems to afford a little comfort and luxury to go along with the gas savings is the Toyoto Camry...but I have not driven any of them.  Just curious what the environmental gurus might think on the auto issue?  ?.?.?

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Feb 14th, 2007, 7:36am

Quote:
Just curious what the environmental gurus might think on the auto issue?  


Did someone say "Beetlejuice three times?


Actually, Ive driven the prius on a couple of occations. I have a friend that has one. It seems a little heavy for a compact car and is terrible, I mean TERRIBLE on snow. It gets 62 mile per gallon though and doesnt seem to lack power. Then again you dont expect much power from a compact hybid.

Because I'm a huge toyota fan, I own a Tundra, I test drove a camry and was quite suprised to find out after the drive that it was a hybid. It drove like any other family sedan.

Now check out this hybrid. It's a car manufacturer called Tesla.
The car is battery operated and can go from 0-60 in 6 sec. with a range of over 280 miles.

www.teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1
The bad news is; you are gonna need to save a little money.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Oakland4life on Feb 14th, 2007, 10:55am
Well, honestly, cars that can go from 0-60 in 4 secs. usually cost MORE than 100K so considering that, I think the price is a bargain.   I would think that the main issue would be keeping the damn thing charged if you are on a trip.  

I would have to research my trip and see ahead of time if there were "service stations" to recharge the car.  But man, what a beautiful car.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Mar 20th, 2007, 7:05am
http://www.funnymos.com/funny-pictures/animals/birds.jpg

Just checking in!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Apr 5th, 2007, 4:56pm
Topic:  The Duplicitous (Calculated???) :-/ (Over-)Sexualization of America

Question:  Why is it that Right Guard can get away with the phrase "pitch a tent" in their rabid deer commercial aired to probably millions and millions of viewers everyday or, perhaps an even more poignant example (of, mind you, 100's we could probably list), on an old episode of Two and a Half Men "fisting" can get mentioned and "America" not bat an eye and yet all this stir has been caused by Billy Packer and his job may be on the line because he used the compound verb "fag out" in an interview on PBS, which is registering on the Richter Scale, albeit still VERY low compared to the other two aforementioned examples, only because so much is being made of it???  Why is it that words that "offend" this loud-mouth (thin-skinned, easily) "offended" group or that loud-mouth (thin-skinned, easily) "offended" group, even if they come up at relatively obscure times, garner so much attention, whereas, words that have a palpably negative impact on our society writ large and in a more immanent, pervasive and deep,... insidious,... way go by without folks batting an eye???

Extended commentary:  Given the direction our society is going in, the word "cock" will be growing strong for years to "cum" (as will that word), but I fear the word "fruit" is in serious danger as is the word "off-color" while we'll all gladly sit back, hee-haw, with our box of Ritz "crackers" for, as it seems now, time immemorial.  Look, I'm not at all justifying the use of the "N" word or the comments that CBA coach made about Jews recently (although I think there is a "depth" to those discussions that has yet to be touched upon because of "overly cautious", PC sensibilities).  It's just that with all of our focus on law (fa) over/and our ignorance of and consequently about appropriateness (yi) or even virtue (along the lines of de, not as in the sense of virtues, but in its meaning of "excellence appropriate to", "functional excellence" or "excellence in context", e.g., a pen's virtue is in writing, not chopping wood) we're just wandering off aimlessly into La-la-land or, should I say, Fa-fa-land.  Why are we, especially Americans, so stuck on the surface???  I mean... I have an inkling why... [smiley=no.gif] I just intimated it...

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by MordecaiCourage on May 12th, 2007, 9:43pm
SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!  Lets get the show on the road!! ;D

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on May 13th, 2007, 4:11pm

on 05/12/07 at 21:43:28, MordecaiCourage wrote:
SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!  Lets get the show on the road!! ;D


OK.  But not until after today.  Today I'm doing Mothers' Day!!   ;)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on May 15th, 2007, 8:46am

on 05/13/07 at 16:11:14, Callie wrote:
OK.  But not until after today.  Today I'm doing Mothers' Day!!   ;)


http://rumormill.mlblogs.com/photos/uncategorized/loupin.jpg

Lou Pinella signed as Seahawks new kicker

Its Baseball season ya knuckle heads!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on May 15th, 2007, 2:05pm

on 05/15/07 at 08:46:03, steelkings wrote:
http://rumormill.mlblogs.com/photos/uncategorized/loupin.jpg

Lou Pinella signed as Seahawks new kicker

Its Baseball season ya knuckle heads!


[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Jun 15th, 2007, 2:53am
This is great.  Stay with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oxTy7KIAaA

(Edit:  This thing is all over the web worldwide.  Looks like it's being watched big time and making things slow.  If you just get the circle of dots, I guess it's best to go back later.)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jun 15th, 2007, 5:12pm

on 06/15/07 at 02:53:25, Callie wrote:
This is great.  Stay with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oxTy7KIAaA

(Edit:  This thing is all over the web worldwide.  Looks like it's being watched big time and making things slow.  If you just get the circle of dots, I guess it's best to go back later.)


Honestly....this made me cry. This guy is great he should be on Broadway!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Jun 22nd, 2007, 12:38pm

on 06/15/07 at 17:12:22, MordecaiCourage wrote:
Honestly....this made me cry. This guy is great he should be on Broadway!!


He won the whole thing, got a CD deal & something like $200k, and is having his teeth fixed (he said it, not a joke).

(PS - I've been "away from my desk" a lot due to work, but I'll be b-a-a-a-k.)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 28th, 2007, 6:40am

on 04/25/03 at 15:27:18, StegRock wrote:
MY Boston Celtics [smiley=stpat.gif]...


I just wish my [smiley=shammy.gif] Boston [smiley=shamrock.gif] Celtics [smiley=stpat.gif] would just take the CHINESE [smiley=bow.gif] guy!!!  I'm actually pumped that we got the #5 pick, that is since we didn't get #1 or 2.  It sets us up perfectly to take this kid from China.  He'd be the perfect guy to start turning around the Celts image, and they'd take advantage of a huge fan base like the Rockets.  Don't overthink this one, Danny!!!  Take the Chinese kid!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Jun 28th, 2007, 8:21am
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/steelkings/leprecon.jpg

He's a 7 foot power forward with funny shoes, a cane, and a pot of gold.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Jun 28th, 2007, 8:27pm
[smiley=bawling.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Jul 2nd, 2007, 9:27am
Hey, it could be worse. You could be a fan of the Sixers... a team who used their draft pick to grab yet another small forward (Thaddeous Young) to add to the list (Andre Iguodala, Kyle Korver, Rodney Carney, Derrick Byars, Bobby Jones)... the one position they really don't need help at.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by cwhams on Jul 2nd, 2007, 6:59pm
I'm thinking the Chinese Guy went to Milwaukee and he says he does not want to play there.

Any ways, where is the integreity of the draft if you draft a guy to a small venue and he uses what ever leverage he can muster not to go there? >:(

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Takamine305 on Jul 19th, 2007, 10:30pm
Hey yous St. Louis Cardinals fans...Just got word Chris Carpenter is out another 10-12 MONTHS!!!

(Back to the drawing board)

don't think Reyes in the minors is the answer either...

Can we smell a major deal brew'n here....MAJOR DEAL!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Chumpzilla on Jul 19th, 2007, 10:33pm
Yes, and as a White Sox fan, the sweetest thing is it won't involve Buehrle (who was rumored to be headed to St. Louis mid-season)!   ;D  

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Takamine305 on Jul 19th, 2007, 10:38pm
Yeah...I KNOW he was....I thought that deal was a LOT more then rumored though...kind of disappointed chitown finally came to an agreement with him...:(

maybe not though...i don't know...lol

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by bgsgfan on Aug 13th, 2007, 7:55pm
Consider yourselves warned... I have the internet again (finally). 8-)

I am going to try not to obsess, but I'll be around.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 13th, 2007, 8:08pm
[smiley=welcome.gif] BACK, brother!!! [smiley=woohoo.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Aug 13th, 2007, 8:12pm

on 08/13/07 at 19:55:28, bgsgfan wrote:
Consider yourselves warned... I have the internet again (finally). 8-)

I am going to try not to obsess, but I'll be around.


[smiley=cheers.gif]

Glad you're back!!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Aug 14th, 2007, 10:21am

on 08/13/07 at 19:55:28, bgsgfan wrote:
Consider yourselves warned... I have the internet again (finally). 8-)

I am going to try not to obsess, but I'll be around.


Good to see you back here man! You should have heard some of the rumors floating around when you disappeared. ;)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Aug 14th, 2007, 11:03am

Quote:
You should have heard some of the rumors floating around when you disappeared.


http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/steelkings/SCHUBERT.jpg

Hey Jeremy, Good to hear from you, man! How did the book tour go? [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif]

I started that one...

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Aug 15th, 2007, 10:07am
Hey Steg... has Flossie stopped by your place at all?  [smiley=storm.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 15th, 2007, 4:41pm
Hardly...  Just a little drizzle and, yesterday more than today, it was quite a bit more "breezy" (I wouldn't even go as far as to say windy, though), but sunny... [smiley=sunny.gif] That's Oahu, though.  It's mainly hitting the island of Hawaii a.k.a. The Big Island.  However, though I'm sure it's "worse" than here, I gather from the news that things aren't that bad over there either.  Thanks for asking.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Aug 16th, 2007, 6:04am
Just thought you guys would enjoy seein' the old Stegger doin' his thang [smiley=chair.gif] in another forum...

http://boards.nbc.com/nbc/index.php?s=1aa54026a0dc600fec2f7cd00313c9e9&showtopic=764035. ;D ... ;)

With bg pokin' back around, there's a tad bit of philosophical irony in that last post... :D

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Sep 20th, 2007, 8:10am
Sept, 19th  
International "Talk Like A Pirate" Day
ARGGHH. Avast Ye Hearties.
http://www.talklikeapirate.com/

Sept, 20th
National Rum Punch Day
Cheers!

Gibberish Day
THINKYUVARYMUSH!

Sept 22nd
Fish Amnesty Day
At this web site, you can Learn more about the intelligence of fish
http://www.fishinghurts.com/feat-newcomic.asp

National Hunting And Fishing Day
Ironic isnt it. Here you will learn to spot and shoot a member of PETA.
http://www.nhfday.org/

Elephant Appreciation Day
Start Your Day Off Right With an Elephant Breakfast
http://www.himandus.net/elephanteria/eday/main_eday.html

Sept 23rd
National Good Neighbor day
A Great Day To Cut your Neighbors Grass....I'm Waiting.

Sept 25th
National One Hit Wonder Day
Better Known As Listen To Your AM Radio Day

Sept 28th
Fish Tank Floor Show Night
Turn off the lights. Turn Off the TV. Pour a glass of what ever and watch the aquarium. This could be a favorite of the month for me.



Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Sep 27th, 2007, 5:09am
Well, "the Gridiron" has a mascot,... and Gino and I have a baby in the house...  No, not that kind... [smiley=crybaby.gif] That's not on the all too near horizon...

THIS little dude got lucky,... we hope.  Gino and I were headed into our local shopping center this evening.  It has been a terribly windy day.  I was about to make a left turn down one of the lanes when a spot opened up right in the front of the plaza.  I made a move to go to it, but someone had already sped around me on the inside to take it.  Fine...  I twisted back around and proceeded down that aforementioned lane... to the absolute good fortune of some little dude.  I park about halfway up.  As we're walking, Gino goes, "Look at the bird taking a rest.  He's right out amidst all the cars."  Birds are like that here.  But, this guy was awfully little.  We walked closer, and, lo and behold, it was a baby.  Not a total newbie, [smiley=newbie.gif] but still unable to fly.  There is NO WAY we could just leave him.  He was probably within minutes of being run over as it was.  There are islands with trees interspersed throughout the parking lot.  I wanted to get him back to the one near us.  There happened to be a big McDonald's cup someone just tossed on the ground nearby.  We were trying to get him in it.  NOT easy.  He kept hopping around, AND, what was MORE AMAZING, was his parents.  That mom and dad bird were right there.  When we first were trying to get him, they were FREAKING OUT.  It was like Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds.  These two birds were contorting themselves and flaring out their feathers in a way I've never seen before.  It was like Steg doing his pterodactyl dance.  It really was truly amazing how they wanted to protect their baby. [smiley=touching.gif] We finally did get him into the cup and over to that island.  His parents looming about.  What did he go and do?  He hopped back out into the parking lot toward where he was.  We had to stop traffic and everything trying to corral him again.  Some people thought we were nuts; most were just oblivious; others just peered curiously.  We eventually did, and this time put him on the opposite side of this HUGE, beautiful tree that is on this island in the center of the lot.  Parents, again, right there, but they seemed to behave less "concerned".  It seemed like they began to "see" that we meant no harm.  This time the little sucker really showed his will to live and started CLIMBING up into the tree.  Like a lot trees here in Hawaii, the tree is on a slant, but it was still amazing.  But, then he hit a steep point about 10-feet high,... still proceeding, though, somehow,... until a gust of wind came and,... well,... he dropped, hitting the pavement hard. [smiley=ohshit.gif] He still got up, shook his head and, with perhaps a little limp, started pressing on again.  I suppose it couldn't have been worse than the fall from this TALL tree he had to have taken earlier.  This little guy was amazing.  We corralled him with the McDonald's cup and some napkins we had on hand again.  It was easier this time.  He was dazed, limping a bit, and his parents were being cooler to us.  "At the end of the day", we spent OVER AN HOUR there.  We observed his parents getting close to him, but not really doing anything, other than obviously acting concerned and squawking.  There was nothing they could do.  It was heart-wrenching.  Night was setting in, and, around here, the cats come out at night.  Little dude didn't have a chance, and even his parents were starting to indicate helplessness and paying less attention as the sun set.  So, I digress...  We had plans to go out to eat and do some quick grocery shopping.  What did that turn into?  A baby bird in a McDonald's cup with some napkins in it in the car, a jar of baby food and an ear/eye dropper included in our now VERY quick grocery run, and "at the end of the day" a baby bird in a box sleeping,... well,... like a baby in our living room... after a yummy meal.  What a day that little dude had?  Wakes up to a mom and dad chirping and regurgitating breakfast into his mouth.  Falls out of a tree (twice).  Cheats death probably NUMEROUS times... when finally these to softies come by.  Goes to bed with two humans peering in (at his cute little face), petting him and doing their best bird-feed imitation, squirting the watered-down baby food with crumbs of bread all over.  The little dude's got a chance, though.  I'm hoping we can return him to his parents back near the Safeway.  I don't know...  I'm sure it'll be interesting when we wake up tomorrow.  I'm thinking of names...  Maybe "Little G"...  Anyway,... just wanted to share this with yous.  Pics likely to follow on the morrow or something...

NOW, go and have a good day,... "get" somebody,... and do something good for the world (that isn't part of your job or a "cause" or ANYTHING). :) ... [smiley=sunny.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Sep 28th, 2007, 6:47pm

on 09/26/07 at 20:33:51, Philly wrote:
I think insults can be fun when done in a playful manner and when the insulter knows the insultee is going to get a chuckle out of it (i.e., most smack talk within a fantasy league). When insults are done with the intent to make someone else feel bad (and, in turn, make the insulter feel superior in some way to the insultee), then they're unnecessary and irresponsible and only beget more insults and more mean-spirited behavior. That's not the type of person I'm interested in being. How about you?


Jeff,... let's cut to the quick and get to the $1,000,000 question...  So, how do you think-and-feel about Tony's Week 2 Cowboys Report???  (I can already surmise, though, what the response is likely to be. :-/ BUT, we'll see...)

The answer I anticipate from Jeff, in essence...  It was a little bit off-putting and, perhaps, in poor taste, but not a big deal.  He was just poking a little fun in what he thought was a clever way.  It was your tack/reaction, Steg, that was directly mean-spirited, over the top and uncalled for.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Sep 28th, 2007, 8:49pm
In terms of the bird, Steve, I know a little something about that.  Unless you know what you're doing, it turns out badly for the baby bird.  But most places have a bird woman or man who know and take birds like that in.  Check with your local SPCA or Humane Society.  If someone is around, they'll probably know.  It's just a phone call, and it's always been free from my experience.

Edit:  Also check with Animal Control in your town.  That's where I learned it.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Sep 28th, 2007, 9:08pm
Its important that the bird not stay in one place. No matter where you go, its important to remember the following.
If you go to church, right before communion, flip the bird.
Before you address your peers at work, Flip the bird.
If your wife complains that the baby is to noisy, it's natural to flip the bird. Just dont let her see you do it. Showing your wife the bird just makes em crazy.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Sep 28th, 2007, 9:08pm

on 09/28/07 at 18:47:39, StegRock wrote:
Jeff,... let's cut to the quick and get to the $1,000,000 question...  So, how do you think-and-feel about Tony's Week 2 Cowboys Report???  (I can already surmise, though, what the response is likely to be. :-/ BUT, we'll see...)


Since I butted into this discussion, I'd like to put in my thoughts.  I don't know why Tony intro'd his Week 2 report with non-interest in Week 1 reports, but as a fantasy football player I'm starting SOMEONE in Week 1.  I want to know what I can expect, even if it's not exact.  His Week 2 report was good, and I was glad to read it.

Since I'm not the administrator of this board, I'd like to stay out of the discussion as to how Tony should do his reports.  I just hope that he keeps doing them like he did in Week 2.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Sep 28th, 2007, 9:21pm

on 09/28/07 at 21:08:21, Callie wrote:
I just hope that he keeps doing them like he did in Week 2.


I think that anyone who gives their time for free is immune from criticizum. Except from those they criticize who give it themselves.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Tony_O on Sep 28th, 2007, 10:06pm

on 09/28/07 at 21:21:22, steelkings wrote:
I think that anyone who gives their time for free is immune from criticizum. Except from those they criticize who give it themselves.


I would agree with this statement at face value without a doubt. However, I think criticizum looks more like so and so's week 1 report was "way off mark", so and so's report needed spell check, so and so's report lacks style or substance. That would be out right individual and specific criticizum. I said week #1 reports are generally "hazardous to your health"and "next to impossible to accurately predict", I think that is far from individual and critical.  With that intro, I was trying to to do two things. 1) not avoid the fact that I didn't post a week #1 report. 2) state the fact that week #1 in the NFL is the toughest week in Fantasy because you don't know what to expect. This is due to parity, inconsistent or no playing time in preseason, etc. I made an attempt to cleverly combine the two ideas and role into my report. Maybe, each individual reader will judge the results differently, but I didn't intend or think I did critize anyone. If I did offend any of the writers, I apoligize.

However, what I think Steve was doing and was continuing to try and do was individual and specific to me. He wasn't getting the reaction or support he wanted, so he was going to keep throwing me in front of the bus. This isn't about dishing it out and taking it either. I wasn't attacking, relating, comparing you by name infront of anyone. You certainly were.

Just   [smiley=twocents.gif]

By the way, Week #4 is up and ready for viewing! ;D :D :) ;)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Sep 28th, 2007, 10:38pm
Tony, I re-read my post about how I hoped you would keep doing reports like you did in Week 2.  I swear on my life that it came off wrong.  I meant that I hoped it would continue to be high caliber like the Week 2 report, not that you would just continue.

If my stupid wording was insulting, you have my deepest apology.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Tony_O on Sep 28th, 2007, 11:19pm
No problem! All in all, none of this is "really" a big deal! I just wanted to make myself and my intentions clear.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by MordecaiCourage on Sep 28th, 2007, 11:31pm
Ahhhhhhhhhh everybody sucks!!! Except for that really clever guy who does the Packers, Texans, and Seahawks reports...Oh what's his name...I can't seem to remember it....anyway that guy is right on and extremely accurate, you can really tell his intellect is far superior to everyone else's on this site. It's just that obvious.  ;D

P.S. He sure is a good looking man!  8-)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Sep 29th, 2007, 4:56am

on 09/28/07 at 22:38:58, Callie wrote:
Tony, I re-read my post about how I hoped you would keep doing reports like you did in Week 2.  I swear on my life that it came off wrong.  I meant that I hoped it would continue to be high caliber like the Week 2 report, not that you would just continue.

If my stupid wording was insulting, you have my deepest apology.


Oh, Gawwwd... [smiley=gimmeabreak.gif] With Steg, it's put on the boxing gloves... [smiley=boxer.gif] With this guy, it's put on the kid gloves. [smiley=itllbeok.gif] I mean... could we find a kiddier pair of kid gloves to put on for this guy?  WHATever...  I take it as a compliment.  I'm sure Tony does, too, because you guys are giving him positive reinforcement (I call it enabling) while giving me a hard time (Philly) or, at least, not really resoundingly supporting my position (although I think sk basically shares my sensibility here).

Speaking of support, I'd like to throw mine toward our other two Junior [smiley=newbie.gif] Correspondents, who have just gotten the job done without any hubbub or smack talk:  Eric, who is not yet a force on the site, but has gotten his reports up EVERY Week without fail, excuse or "clever" (off-putting) lead-in, and whose wife just ONE MONTH ago gave birth to their second child (we all have shit goin' on), and C-Dub, who also missed his Week 1 report, but sent me an apology about it (something Tony did not do when I sent him the PM asking him what happened with his Week 1 report) and just proceeded on with his Week 2 report in a seamless fashion without some "cutesy" slap in the face to the rest of us.  I applaud Eric and Chuck here... [smiley=clap.gif] and look forward [smiley=hungry.gif] THEIR next reports.


on 09/28/07 at 22:06:27, Tony_O wrote:
I think criticizum looks more like so and so's week 1 report was "way off mark", so and so's report needed spell check, so and so's report lacks style or substance. That would be out right individual and specific criticizum. I said week #1 reports are generally "hazardous to your health"and "next to impossible to accurately predict", I think that is far from individual and critical.


FIRST, if the criticism is valid, it's valid.  I really don't care whence it's coming.  Delivery is important, for sure, but delivery doesn't affect accuracy.  As long as the criticism is genuinely pure, i.e. has no self-serving motives behind it, no one should care where it comes from.  Any information that accurately depicts the situation that can help me improve myself, I take.

BUT, this whole thing about "specific, individual and critical" versus,... what ?.?.?,... "general, stereotypical and not well-thought-through"... is just a MESS...  So,... spew it all over, and that's okay.  Call out the guy who spews it all over, and that's wrong.  Our "disagreement" here aside, that IS what you are saying.  That's the MOST convoluted logic I've ever heard (since the last thing of yours that I read).  I mean... it's not that the criticism coming from me is directed at you instead of "in general" because I have a choice.


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However, what I think Steve was doing and was continuing to try and do was individual and specific to me.

He wasn't getting the reaction or support he wanted, so he was going to keep throwing me in front of the bus. This isn't about dishing it out and taking it either. I wasn't attacking, relating, comparing you by name infront of anyone. You certainly were.


According to your very own logic, isn't this individual, specific and critical???  BUT, that's not the problem, Tony!  That it's "individual, specific and critical" is fine.  The problem is that I find it to be neither valid nor accurate nor pure.  Heck, any valuable critique there is is individualized, specific and, by definition, critical.  The same stands for praise.  In fact, Tony, the "substance" of your Week 2 report and even, moreover, your new Week 4 report is doubtlessly solid.  I digress...  That BS lead-in to your Week 2 report just detracts from that solid content.  So, why go there?  Anyway, note, that praise was individualized, specific and critically-considered.  That's real, meaningful praise!  This situation aside, it feels much better than that generalized, "Good job, everybody," or "Keep up the good work, guys."  But, the same applies to the opposite, critique.  Real critique, like real, meaningful praise, is targeted.  Incidentally, the same stands for apologies.  "I'm sorry if I offended anybody" isn't as effective and meaningful as a direct apology to someone or some group.

In fact, this all speaks to our plight in America today.  We talk about it with reference to athletes all the time, but when it comes to taking that hard look in the mirror at ourselves, the double-standard kicks in.  Our inability to accept criticism is causing us to become a weak people.  It's illustrative of our overall lack of education and blinding our eye toward improvement and betterment.  It's even worsening our the lack of appreciation we have for education and, with God "Freedom of Speech" at the helm, making a deferential sensibility a virtual impossibility.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Sep 29th, 2007, 5:03am
Birdie UPDATE...

Thanks for the insight, Callie.  I spoke to Markie last night (he's a pet expert).  He also recommended contacting the Humane Society.  I just haven't had a free moment to do so.  I will hopefully have a spare minute to do so on the morrow,... but it's the weekend, so...  Also, as you mentioned a local "bird lady", Markie mentioned the possibility of a bird sanctuary.  The bird's not really exotic, though.  By mainland standards, he's unique, but run-of-the-mill here in Hawaii.

In any event, I will say, though, that the little guy is doing REALLY well.  He seems very healthy.  He eats like a champ.  His bowels seem to be working well (I'd like to teach him to fly off my shoulder and poop on cars on command ;D).  He's not limping or anything anymore.  He's perky and chirpy and cool as hell.  He hangs out with us.  We'll see.  We're open to pretty much wherever this leads.  At this point, we consider the little guy our responsiblity.  We need a mascot around here, anyway. :D

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Sep 29th, 2007, 6:01pm
Birdie UPDATE...

We awoke today to a VERY chipper little guy.  This guy's starting to stretch his wings.  He's hopping all around from time to time... usually toward us with one thing on his little "bird brain",... FOOD. [smiley=hungry.gif] He totally walks to our fingers to perch himself.  He's even made a couple attempts at flying toward us from about three feet away.  More like big leaps,... but,... hey,... it's something.  Wings are flapping.  The question we're wondering about, which is relevant to the long haul here...  Is he just a little guy like a couple weeks old, or is he a runt who is older and will never really be fit to survive on his own?  ...  In any event, from a health perspective, it looks good now,... so we're just going to take it a day at a time... [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] Of course, if I really hold my fingers like that, the little sucker's gonna try to perch on them. [smiley=laugh.gif]

Pics forthcoming... today...

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Oct 1st, 2007, 1:52pm

on 09/28/07 at 18:47:39, StegRock wrote:
Jeff,... let's cut to the quick and get to the $1,000,000 question...  So, how do you think-and-feel about Tony's Week 2 Cowboys Report???  (I can already surmise, though, what the response is likely to be. :-/ BUT, we'll see...)

The answer I anticipate from Jeff, in essence...  It was a little bit off-putting and, perhaps, in poor taste, but not a big deal.  He was just poking a little fun in what he thought was a clever way.  It was your tack/reaction, Steg, that was directly mean-spirited, over the top and uncalled for.

Heh... pretty clever, offering an answer for me (hidden) ahead of time--and yes, you're not too far off, however you're a bit too lenient on Tony and harsh on yourself for me. I apologize for responding so late, but I wasn't online much at all this weekend and didn't realize that the topic had jumped to another thread... one that, admittedly, I don't check nearly as often as the more football-relevant ones.

To be completely honest here... I did not look at the Cowboys week 1 fantasy report (I don't look at all of them every week, just the ones where I need help making decisions). I usually don't own any Cowboys on any of my fantasy teams (can't cheer for them). So I wasn't aware of Tony's Week 1 (lack of) or Week 2 reports until my attention was drawn to them by the posts from you and steelkings on the other thread.

Here's, approximately, how I reacted:
 

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Fantasy Football Slant:
Lets get this out of the way, anybody who guesses, predicts, expects, or prophecies' what is going to happen in Week #1 of the N.F.L. is partaking in actions that are hazardous to your health!
Clever stuff. Made me laugh. I certainly could sympathize with this since I was off the mark in week 1.


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It is next to impossible to accurately project what is going to happen after watching 4 to 5 preseason games that utilize vanilla offenses, non-blitzing defenses, and truthfully; the games themselves become more about revenue than player analysis.
Again... I loved it. He's [smiley=bullseye.gif].


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So, I spared you my worthless attempt last week and I hope to give you a more informed opinion on what is in store for the "Boys" this weekend!
Aha... now I figured out, finally, that there was no Week 1 analysis. The earlier stuff, while true, suddenly lost most of its humor. This was pretty lame. I'm bright enough to figure out, at this point, that the earlier stuff was probably an attempt at satire, and that his "reason" for not putting up an analysis had nothing to do with the "reason" he mentioned. Doesn't make it right, and I can understand how some might be offended by it, especially when they put the thoughtful effort into posting an analysis for Week 1. I figured he just forgot to do it or had other things going on. That was my take. I guess I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt as part of my good nature.


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This week's game ...
The rest was solid analysis. I read on, especially interested in his take on Patrick Crayton, especially since someone in my money league actually dropped Santana Moss to grab Crayton off the waiver wire (the gall! However it's a move that's worked out for him so far, especially after the Ram game yesterday).


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So, in essence, my feeling, initially, was that Tony forgot to post an analysis. I've done the same, probably at least once every year. I almost did it this week (#4) as I wasn't online Friday or Saturday much at all. I won't give him a hard time for an early miss. You know, glass houses and stone-throwing... If he (or anyone else) kept it up I'd be more likely to be critical. (I've been critical of the team correspondents in the past for lack of work in the off-season [post #80 in the Junior Correspondents thread]. Ironically, that post of mine was encouraged by Tony auditioning for the Cowboy's gig due to the lack of activity by the previous writer. In the end, you asked me to back off a bit because you weren't as concerned with the off-season reporting off the boards if it meant keeping people fresh for the fall gig. Good enough.)

Anyway, I thought your post on the Sidelines was a little too snarky ("directly mean-spirited or over the top"? probably not, but toeing too close to that line for my own tastes). I thought it was done and over with and didn't give it further thought. Then when Tony didn't post a week 3 report, you came back with another sarcastic comment. I would have just sent him a PM asking why he wasn't posting his analyses (and maybe you did) instead of going after him sarcastically and publicly. But that's the way I would have handled it. I know you are consistent with the way you deal with people. I'm of the mind that each person is an individual and needs to be handled accordingly (i.e., Bill Parcells' treatment of Lawrence Taylor vis a vis the rest of the team). I'm certainly not going to change your leadership style even though I don't always agree with it. But I'm willing to let you know that I don't agree with it. However, I didn't say anything at that point because it really wasn't my issue.

Then of course, Tony responded with more sarcasm and things went downhill (again, in my opinion) from there. Unfortunately for you, I am one of those "smoother-overers" that you mentioned your distaste for in another thread somewhere. I am of the mind that things could be worked out pretty easily with direct and respectful communication and that insults and name-calling takes the intellectual conversation off the table and invites the emotional response instead (see earlier post to determine which I prefer). I don't believe that every battle is worth fighting to the end. I don't believe that every battle is worth fighting, period. I know you dislike the idea of "agreeing to disagree," but I'm OK with it. No matter how eloquently you state your case, there are some topics where I believe what I believe and there's no changing my mind on it. Sure, I learn more about your opinions, and may get a better idea of the other side of the argument, but I often get the idea that you're not content to stop there.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Oct 1st, 2007, 3:59pm
OH, YEA... >:( Here's my paradoxical response to your post, Jeff... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] (I'd give you "two thumbs up", but I know that that little guy is one of your favorites. :))  Well done!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Tony_O on Oct 1st, 2007, 4:56pm

on 10/01/07 at 13:52:10, Philly wrote:
So, I spared you my worthless attempt last week and I hope to give you a more informed opinion on what is in store for the "Boys" this weekend![/code]Aha... now I figured out, finally, that there was no Week 1 analysis. The earlier stuff, while true, suddenly lost most of its humor. This was pretty lame. I'm bright enough to figure out, at this point, that the earlier stuff was probably an attempt at satire, and that his "reason" for not putting up an analysis had nothing to do with the "reason" he mentioned. Doesn't make it right, and I can understand how some might be offended by it, especially when they put the thoughtful effort into posting an analysis for Week 1. I figured he just forgot to do it or had other things going on. That was my take. I guess I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt as part of my good nature.


Just so you know Jeff, I didn't purposely skip week #1, I was busy getting ready to move, working, coaching, preaching, etc.(all things a little higher on my priority list) and I just couldn't get to it. I was just giving my true take on week #1 in the NFL and trying to blend in the fact that I missed the week #1 report.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Oct 1st, 2007, 5:29pm
Tony, I want you to know that there is NO question (even in my mind, if you will) that the reports you haven't done haven't been done on purpose.  I KNOW that is NOT the case, brother.  The only issue is with your "comeback tack", the way you attempted to "blend" it all in as you say.  Clever and a bit witty, sure... [smiley=yes.gif] But, also, a bit off-putting and somewhat in poor taste, yes again! :-/ That's all...  But, even that, I KNOW you did not do intentionally.  And, yes, as time goes by, this whole episode will fade.  I'm just trying to get the best OUT OF you, not (just) the best OF you. :)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Tony_O on Oct 1st, 2007, 6:40pm

on 10/01/07 at 17:29:53, StegRock wrote:
 I'm just trying to get the best OUT OF you, not (just) the best OF you. :)


Anybody, in any situation, should appreciate that! :)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Oct 1st, 2007, 7:52pm

on 10/01/07 at 15:59:53, StegRock wrote:
OH, YEA... >:( Here's my paradoxical response to your post, Jeff... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] (I'd give you "two thumbs up", but I know that that little guy is one of your favorites. :))  Well done!


[smiley=bow.gif]   [smiley=zenmaster.gif]

I was looking for a continuation, in green ink again. ;)

I'm very happy to see that we can resolve issues with each other using our markedly different styles. That means a lot to me.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Drew Rosenhaus on Oct 3rd, 2007, 4:00pm
Sorry Philly - have to say you are way off base with your new signature.



http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/mlb/images/team_logos/50x50/col.gif



GO ROCKIES!!!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Oct 4th, 2007, 8:46am

on 10/03/07 at 16:00:42, Drew Rosenhaus wrote:
Sorry Philly - have to say you are way off base with your new signature.

GO ROCKIES!!!!!


Actually, I'm not off-base at all... the Phillies are the 2007 NL East Champs.

Look for the Phils bats to come alive today. No way Chase Utley strikes out 4 times on just 13 pitches again.  [smiley=yikes.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Drew Rosenhaus on Oct 4th, 2007, 12:30pm

on 10/04/07 at 08:46:42, Philly wrote:
Look for the Phils bats to come alive today. No way Chase Utley strikes out 4 times on just 13 pitches again.  [smiley=yikes.gif]


I do agree that the Phillies will put more on the board today. It should be a great game and interesting to see how the two rookies pitch in arguably the biggest game of their careers.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Drew Rosenhaus on Oct 7th, 2007, 1:13am
http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/mlb/images/team_logos/50x50/col.gif


GO ROCKIES!!!!!




Watch out Arizona... Purple is on its way...


[smiley=ninja.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Drew Rosenhaus on Oct 16th, 2007, 2:04am
http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/mlb/images/team_logos/50x50/col.gif


GO ROCKIES!!!!!





Hey ALers ... we are waiting.

Beware the Purple.

[smiley=ninja.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Oct 17th, 2007, 9:05am
That is one scary team. Swept 7 playoff games. Won 21 of their last 22. Yikes!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Drew Rosenhaus on Oct 17th, 2007, 11:21am
Their trip to the World Series has been nutty. No one could have predicted this kind of run and/or outcome.

I am a little concerned with the HUGE break before the start of the Series. I do like their chances though.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Drew Rosenhaus on Oct 24th, 2007, 11:21pm
SPOILER ALERT







PLEASE DO NOT READ IF YOU ARE RECORDING WORLD SERIES.....











on 10/17/07 at 11:21:34, Drew Rosenhaus wrote:
Their trip to the World Series has been nutty. No one could have predicted this kind of run and/or outcome.

I am a little concerned with the HUGE break before the start of the Series. I do like their chances though.


:P

Okay so a bad outing for the Rocks. REALLY BAD. Beckett looks nasty tonight and the Rocks just look plain sick. BUT...

I do like their chances tomorrow vs. Schilling and for the rest of the series. I really didn't think they had a great shot at Beckett anyway and they just need a split. Plus, this ULTRA-BEATING may just be the perfect wake up call after the last 8 days.

http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/mlb/images/team_logos/50x50/col.gif


GO ROCKIES!!!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Drew Rosenhaus on Oct 29th, 2007, 1:32pm
A tip of the cap to Red Sox Nation - a sweep and domination of the Rockies. There were two pretty good games in the Series, two stinkers. Not much to say but congratulations!

I do have high hopes for the Rocks to be in contention next year. They have a great foundation and hopefully the owners can see that and keep the pieces together. It all rides on the ownership at this point. Do they choke on it like they did with the WS ticket sales or do they turn this thing into making the Rockies as popular as they were just 6-8 years ago? Time will tell.

Again, congratulations Red Sox - well deserved. The Rockies will (hopefully) RETURN!



http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/mlb/images/team_logos/50x50/col.gif

GO ROCKIES!!!!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Oct 29th, 2007, 7:32pm
The Phillies are in a similar situation. They've got the makings of a great team (Howard, Utley, Rollins, Rowand, Victorino, Myers, Hamels). Now all they need is the ownership to take an interest in winning instead of just being competitive enough to keep the stadium filled while maintaining their budget.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by BarnabyWilde on Oct 30th, 2007, 8:38pm
I do hope the Rockies can keep it going. I went to several games this year and they sure did grow on me. They have a great young nucleus and can only get better.

GO ROCKIES!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Nov 16th, 2007, 3:40am

on 11/15/07 at 16:23:50, StegRock wrote:
Fellas, please bear with me here this week...  I'm having a rough one,... battling long hours, stress and insomnia...


...Capped off by a car accident tonight.  Everybody's okay.  It's not that bad.  My fault, though.  I only carry liability on my FantasyFootballer.com hoopde, and my front end (hood mainly) is going to need work.  Suffice it to say, this is just the opposite of the shot in the arm "the Gridiron" needed heading into this offseason. [smiley=frustrated.gif] Happy holidays...

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by captainpurple on Nov 16th, 2007, 3:15pm
Glad to hear everyone is ok...but man does that suck.   [smiley=dejected.gif]

It's never a good time to get into an accident, but denting the ol wallet right into xmas is doubley rough.  

Hang in there!


btw, you can just notch me up 2 wins in the GBRFL2 and give all those otha suckas Ls.   ;)

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by cwhams on Nov 17th, 2007, 7:52am
[smiley=fumin.gif] I'd be a bit up in flames with a car down, got a few of those to deal with in the lad's vehicle.  I hope things get working out better for you and you get the vehicle back up and looking good.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by DirkDiggler on Nov 17th, 2007, 10:22am
Sorry Steg!!  Sure does suck!!!  I am glad to hear everyone is ok though.  Ultimately, that is what is most important.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Oakland4life on Nov 17th, 2007, 8:28pm
Sorry to hear about your wreck Steg  :-[

Hope you can find yourself a new hood for cheap!!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Nov 17th, 2007, 9:18pm
Heres a little something from the" Ask Uncle Steelkings" advice column.

Question: Uncle Steelkings, How do I economically repair the damage from a front end colis..colissi..co.eh..wreck?

Answer:
1. Go to local hardware store and buy a hillbilly body shop repair kit. That consists of a long heavy duty chain, a BFH (Big friggin hammer), one mult pack of assorted sized bungi cords (thick rubberbands with hooks on it), a can of florecent spray paint, two 2 by fers ( non treated lumber because they are cheaper) and several cans of lubricant.( you may have to go to the liquor store for the lubricant unless yer in Kentucky and then they sell beer in the hardware))

2. Attach one end of the chain to a tree or telephone pole(What ever is convenient)and the other to the front frame of the car. ( Or in most cases, Truck)With a little slack in the chain, put the vehicle in reverse and floor it. Dont be scared. It takes quite a jolt to pull the radiator off the fan blade.

3. Set the 2 by fers between the engine and the hood. Close the hood then jump up and down on it to flatten her out a little.

4. Use the BFH to pound out the small dents.

5. Because the hood is likely to no longer latch, attach a bungi cord from wheel well to wheel well over the hood to hold her down.

6. Take the can of paint and spray the words "ouch" and "Opps" and "Blammo" on the side of the car so people think your cool instead of thinking your a dumb ass.

7 Drink the beer and enjoy your work.


Seriously, I'm glad your ok!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Dec 24th, 2007, 7:30pm
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/images/2006b/nativitystory.jpg

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Callie on Dec 27th, 2007, 12:17am
Thanks, sk.  Merry Christmas.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by Philly on Dec 27th, 2007, 8:15am

on 12/24/07 at 19:30:50, steelkings wrote:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/images/2006b/nativitystory.jpg


Is that Mars? It was supposed to be pretty bright this past week.  ;)

Merry Christmas everyone and a happy impending New Year.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by cwhams on Dec 28th, 2007, 7:36am
I hope all had a very Merry Christmas and that you have a great NEW Year!!!!!  [smiley=clap.gif]

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Dec 28th, 2007, 1:39pm
Just a heads up, to help us avoid "factions" of Merry Christmas and Happy New Year well wishers...

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=58;action=display;num=1040750374;start=25.

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by cwhams on Feb 1st, 2008, 8:34am
Well boys and girls, just thought I'd let you know, I'll being flying to Cedar Falls, Iowa with the Southern Illinois University Salukis basketball team. ;D

Got the opportunity to fly with the team to Northern Iowa University this afternoon.  Hope to draw up a few trick plays on the smart board for the team on the way up...after that I hope my parachute works as they toss me off the plane. :D

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by StegRock on Feb 1st, 2008, 3:44pm
Sounds like good fun!  Have a great time!  Go Salukis (...for my man, C-Dub)!

Title: Re: the Bleachers
Post by steelkings on Feb 4th, 2008, 10:48am


Perfect for Callie Too!


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