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(Message started by: StegRock on Aug 30^th, 2003, 5:00pm)

Title: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Aug 30^th, 2003, 5:00pm

Guys,

I am beginning work on the GBRFL2 site and there are a couple things I need:

1) If you have not yet sent me a PHONE NUMBER and/or an additional/regular e-mail address for the "Owner Information" page, PLEASE do so, preferably by e-mail, A.S.A.P.!

2) I would like each of you to indicate, preferably right here in this thread, how many years you have been playing fantasy football (on a fairly serious level) for our "History" page. Include this year!

Thank you! [smiley=bow.gif]

Over and out,
Steg

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Walker Boh on Aug 30^th, 2003, 6:17pm

This is my 4th year of fantasy football, and for the first time (I'm happy to say), I'll be playing against legitimate competition. Most of my leagues have been public leagues on CBS and Yahoo and the competition level has never really been there. I've never finished worst than 3rd place in ANY league, but it's hard to take a lot of pride when you know that half the people stopped playing 3 weeks into the season. I look forward to the challenge that I'm sure to get and I'm really excited about my future with this league and the Gridiron. Thanks Steg!

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Aug 30^th, 2003, 6:28pm

Fantasy Footballer circa 1984, since my sophmore year of high school...19 years!

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Tony_O on Aug 30^th, 2003, 6:55pm

5 years of quality private league Fantasy Bliss! No relationship with DAVE! (Bliss that is)

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by PrimeTime on Aug 30^th, 2003, 6:56pm

I've been playing for 5 years. The last 4 years I've been in three leagues. This year I'm in four this year with the addition of the GBRFL2 league.

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Chumpzilla on Aug 30^th, 2003, 7:15pm

I have also been playing for five years (5 years auction style keeper league and 4 years serpentine), playing in 2+ leagues for 4 of the five years.

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by FourTwoOh on Aug 30^th, 2003, 8:37pm

10th or 11th season. Can't honestly recall if I was in the precursor to my lonest running league 1 or 2 years before it dissolved. So 10 to be safe.

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on Aug 30^th, 2003, 9:55pm

This is my 6th season of fantasy football. This will be my first season with more than one team - should be interesting cheering for (and rooting against) every player in the NFL with 4 FF leagues.

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by bgsgfan on Aug 30^th, 2003, 11:48pm

I think this is my 6th year, the first 2 years were in one TD-only league. This will be my 3rd "serious" year in this great hobby.

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by The Juror on Sep 2^nd, 2003, 1:03pm

Over 10 years. This is the first year with 3 teams though.

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 2^nd, 2003, 4:14pm

You all's site is on its way here VERY soon! [smiley=spchef.gif] Just as a quick prelude, if you head over to the GBRFL "History" page, you will see that info on the GBRFL2 has been added! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 2:44am

Yes, it's like 2:45 a.m.! [smiley=tired.gif] BUT, YOU ALL's GBRFL2 web site is LIVE... and ALIVE! Enjoy the ride, boyz, and treat her well! [smiley=cruisin.gif] She is a nice one! ;D

You will all be getting an e-mail shortly (yea, I'll be up a little longer) [smiley=sleepers.gif] with your permissions for your respective lineup submission forms as well as the password the "Owner Information" page.

PLEASE be patient, guys, and try to do a little figuring out on your own first before rushing to me with a deluge of questions, BUT do let me know of any actual problems you incur. Thank you! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Walker Boh on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 8:35am

[smiley=cruisin.gif] I just took the new site for a test spin and it's AWESOME! [smiley=cruisin.gif]

No problems to report here. Thanks again for all your hard work Steg, it's greatly appreciated! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 8:48am

Same here Steg... looks great. I just submitted my lineup too...

3 questions come to mind...

#1 - Is our assigned password permanent, or is there somewhere we can change it?

#2 - I clicked on the Owner Info link, was prompted for a password (at which I entered that nasty amalgamation of letters and numbers I was provided), and then was told it was an invalid password.

#3 - I am dropping a player this week. Since I only provided a list of three players to add, there is a chance I won't get any of them. If that happens, does the player still get dropped (in this case it is fine if he does, but I could see other scenarios where it would not be OK.)

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 9:30am

The password and ID you sent me does not let me access the site. [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 10:50am

Steve,

I tried again, with no luck with typing it in the boxes. However, I cut and pasted what you sent me in the email, and it worked. I don't get it...

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by DirkDiggler on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 10:54am

on 09/03/03 at 10:50:02, BarnabyWilde wrote:

Steve,

I tried again, with no luck with typing it in the boxes. However, I cut and pasted what you sent me in the email, and it worked. I don't get it...

Barnaby--

It has to be exactly the same. It is case sensitive!

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by DirkDiggler on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 11:00am

Quote:

#1 - Is our assigned password permanent, or is there somewhere we can change it?[/quote]

It is permanent.

[quote]
#2 - I clicked on the Owner Info link, was prompted for a password (at which I entered that nasty amalgamation of letters and numbers I was provided), and then was told it was an invalid password.

The password is case sensitive. It has to be EXACT!

Quote:

#3 - I am dropping a player this week. Since I only provided a list of three players to add, there is a chance I won't get any of them. If that happens, does the player still get dropped (in this case it is fine if he does, but I could see other scenarios where it would not be OK.)

[/quote]

No the player will not be dropped if you do get get someone on the list. SO ONLY LISt PLAYERS YOU WANT. However, if you want to drop someone no matter what, you can make a note in the comments section. (not sure how this is beneficial, but you can do it)

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 11:31am

I typed it EXACTLY like it was on the email, case sensitive and all. It would not let me in...

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by FourTwoOh on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 12:45pm

Looks good Steg! I should be submitted. Philly and Walker Boh, there's always week 2 to get a win. [smiley=evil.gif]

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Chumpzilla on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 12:54pm

Steg,

The site looks great. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] THANK YOU!!!! Also, I have a quick question. Can we make changes to our line-up/free agent claims once it has been submitted (as long as it's before the first game)?

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 1:42pm

With regards to Philly's question about the permanency of passwords, there is no way to automatically reset them on the user's end at this time. I may let dudes change them to something more "user-friendly" someday by sending it in to me and doing it manually, but not today and probably not during this season. There may even come a time, depending on where the site as a whole goes, where I set it up so it's all automatic, but that ain't happenin' in the near or even kind of near future.

Regarding Chumpzilla's query, before the kickoff of the first game(s) of any given week you can submit your lineup AS MANY TIMES AS YOU WANT. We just go by what one was most recently submitted. That even stands if someone forgets to put in a lineup. We just go by whatever lineup is at the top of your lineups page, i.e. the most recent one you submitted. Also of note here, remember that soon after the kickoff of the games, like usually within 5 minutes, but almost always within 1 hour, you can go to the lineups section and view everybody's lineup.

Peace out and good luck!

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 2:51pm

First off, I had no problems with the password with regards to lineup access/submission. The problem I had was with the

OWNER INFO

link on the title page. When I click it, it prompts me for a password (no username). I entered the one sent to me, exactly as it was sent (yes, I understand case sensitivity) and it still gives me an INVALID PASSWORD error.

Secondly, as far as dropping a player, I drafted Adrian Murrell. He was cut and no one picked him up. There is no point in having him on my roster whether I get a replacement or not. I'll resubmit my lineup with more detailed instructions.

Thanks!

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 3:04pm

Well, Phil, I never said your "problem". My response was to the following "question" of yours...

on 09/03/03 at 08:48:59, Philly wrote:

#1 - Is our assigned password permanent, or is there somewhere we can change it?

Regarding the password for the "Owner Information" page, I don't know what's up. It works, bottom line!

Regarding your other issue, don't make rocket science out of it! Just drop Adrian Murrell with your Week 1 drops. If you want him dropped no matter what, i.e. even if you do not pick up any of the guys on your free-agent request list(s), just simply state so. Ultimately, this is a VERY simple, straightforward system/process. "Player transactions" of any kind, in effect, all go through at the same time, ONCE a week. [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 3:10pm

on 09/03/03 at 15:04:34, StegRock wrote:

Well, Phil, I never said your "problem". My response was to the following "question" of yours...

Regarding the password for the "Owner Information" page, I don't know what's up. It works, bottom line!

I was responding to the point DD made earlier... I should have quoted it I guess... sorry about the confusion.

Anyway, I'm glad the Owner Information page works. Maybe someone can tell me what's on it because it don't work for me. [smiley=uh.gif]

Quote:

Regarding your other issue, don't make rocket science out of it! Just drop Adrian Murrell with your Week 1 drops. If you want him dropped no matter what, i.e. even if you do not pick up any of the guys on your free-agent request list(s), just simply state so. Ultimately, this is a VERY simple, straightforward system/process. "Player transactions" of any kind, in effect, all go through at the same time, ONCE a week. [smiley=shrug.gif]

I'll just go ahead and put in a bunch of players on the pickup list so as not to confuse and complicate things.

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 3:22pm

Can someone else here please either click on the "Owner Information" option and enter the password I gave you and see if it works for you OR at least report if you already have successfully done so so I know it is not on my end, which I am pretty sure it isn't, but you never know? Thank you! [smiley=bow.gif]

Also, that is the same password and system we use on the GBRFL site. So, Philly, you could try it there. If you incur the same problem there, then it's definitely something on your end because that page I KNOW works. Ultimately, though, I am fairly certain it is not on the back end, so to speak. [smiley=whatever.gif]

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 3:35pm

It worked for me earlier...

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 3:58pm

Thanks, BW! [smiley=bow.gif]

I think we got this hammered out, actually. Remember you do NOT use your "personal" password to access the "Owner Information" page; you use that "common" password I gave you all.

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by bgsgfan on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 4:03pm

Philly:

Password is case sensitive. I had to do it 3 times (d'oh!), but on the 3rd try I did it exactly as it is in the email and it worked.

Title: Re: For the GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 8:45pm

on 09/03/03 at 16:03:13, bgsgfan wrote:

Philly:

Password is case sensitive. I had to do it 3 times (d'oh!), but on the 3rd try I did it exactly as it is in the email and it worked.

I understood the case sensitive part... I was using my lineup password instead of the one I should have been using...

[smiley=dunce.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 10^th, 2003, 2:43pm

Fellas,

The web site has finally been updated for Week 1! Whew! :P

A couple VERY IMPORTANT notes: 1) I HIGHLY RECOMMEND ALL OF YOUR SIFTING THROUGH YOUR GAMES WITH A FINE-TOOTH COMB AS WITH THE NEW, MORE AUTOMATED SET-UP I DID FIND TWO MISTAKES IN JUST ONE OF MY GAMES :o (though I found little else); 2) the lineup submission pages will be turned over sometime late tonight. [smiley=bow.gif]

Over and Out,
Steg [smiley=smileytrash.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 13^th, 2003, 8:15pm

Fellas,

Prompted by a (reasonably doable) suggestion made by our esteemed GBRFLer Markie Hahn, I made a small upgrade to the lineup submission forms. You will now see a link at the top of the form for your "Current Roster". It opens new window. This way you can view your whole roster as you input your weekly lineups. I hope this small upgrade helps!

Steg
Your web dude [smiley=smileytrash.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Walker Boh on Sep 13^th, 2003, 10:33pm

on 09/13/03 at 20:15:51, StegRock wrote:

Dude, you read my mind! Earlier today, when I submitted my lineup, I was thinking to myself, "You know, I wish I could see my roster from this screen..." Instead, I had to click File, New, Window (wait a few painful seconds for the new window to open), click Favorites, scroll down to "the Gridiron" (wait for it to load), scroll down to the GBRFL2 link, click on that (wait for it to load) click on Rosters (wait for that to load) and when I finished with all that, I had to scroll down to the bottom of the page to see my roster. Whew! Now depending on how well I perform these tasks, it can take anywhere from 15-20 seconds... now that doesn't seem like a lot of time, but over the coarse of a season, that adds up to about five minutes (and that's if I only set my lineup once a week!) What will you do with your extra 5 minutes this season? ;)

Thanks for the nice upgrade Steg! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Chumpzilla on Sep 14^th, 2003, 11:51am

Totally agreed. Very nice touch! Thanks Steg! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Apr 29^th, 2004, 6:32pm

Guys, you all's "Rosters" and "Transactions" pages for '04 at the GBRFL2 web site are up and all according updates have been made. All offseason trades have been accounted for (as far as I can tell) and protection spots are indicated on the "Rosters" page. Enjoy! [smiley=lickinmychops.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by PrimeTime on Apr 29^th, 2004, 9:16pm

Steg once again you have exceeded my expectations! [smiley=woohoo.gif]
I was just looking at the rosters today and I thought to myself "I wonder when the rosters will be updated?" I loged on tonight and BINGO! you did it!! Awesome!

P.S. Is the draft order the reverse of how we finished with a drawing from the 6th place to 10 th place teams to determine 1 through 5? Any idea when that will be finalized? Since I finished 6th I will get one of the top 5 picks (hum??? Manning, Fitzgerald, Williams, Jones, Jackson, Rivers....I can't wait)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Apr 29^th, 2004, 11:33pm

on 04/29/04 at 21:16:14, PrimeTime wrote:

Thanks! I freed up just long enough today to get this kind of stuff out of the way. ;D

Quote:

P.S. Is the draft order the reverse of how we finished with a drawing from the 6th place to 10 th place teams to determine 1 through 5? Any idea when that will be finalized? Since I finished 6th I will get one of the top 5 picks (hum??? Manning, Fitzgerald, Williams, Jones, Jackson, Rivers....I can't wait)

Yes, you are right on [smiley=bullseye.gif] with regards to how the lottery works, PT. As for when the lottery is done, it can be done anytime you guys want. But, if you want to follow GBRFL tradition, it would be conducted the day of the Draft right before the Draft. [smiley=nervous.gif] It's more "fun" (read, evil) that way. [smiley=lickinmychops.gif] ... [smiley=sinister.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by PrimeTime on Apr 30^th, 2004, 9:45am

I can appreciate the evil part of it [smiley=evil.gif], but I am also torn [smiley=uh.gif] with thinking it would be nice to know the order now because it would faciliate trading. I see merits in both ways.

Does anyone have any strong opinions either way?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Apr 30^th, 2004, 1:56pm

on 04/30/04 at 09:45:22, PrimeTime wrote:

Again, this is TOTALLY up to you guys! Just let me know when you decide. Do remember, though, just as a point that merits significant consideration, that not knowing the order is the way we do it and like pretty much everything else with the league set-up (as you all now are better aware after having played in it for a year), it makes for a good time. [smiley=hippy.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Apr 30^th, 2004, 10:40pm

I am not one to buck tradition, but I'd like to know now, or as soon as possible...

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Chumpzilla on Apr 30^th, 2004, 10:48pm

I also think it would be beneficial to know as soon as possible. I don't have a pick in the top 5 this year, however, if I were in that position I would want to explore trade opportunities that would help me better my team. Just my opinion! [smiley=pumped.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on May 1^st, 2004, 12:23am

Indemnification clause, THIS IS UP TO YOU ALL IN THE END. It is just that I know what the "conventional"/"usual" thinking is and what the according trend obviously is going to be. As such, I feel like I am obliged to play devil's advocate for another, albeit unfamiliar, tried and true way.

None of what you say in your post, Ray, is precluded by not knowing the order of the lottery picks. Lottery picks move like water in trades in the mother league. It's just a different spin. It requires a little more rolling of the dice! Actually, it can even facilitate MORE trading as, e.g., if you REALLY want the #1 pick, you may want to acquire a few lottery picks. Hmmmm... [smiley=hmmmm.gif]

Just the other side of the two-sided coin, guys. Again, you call a vote amongst yourselves and make the call. I'll then follow the results. I'm just trying to help keep the discussion comprehensive and informed.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by DirkDiggler on May 1^st, 2004, 10:29am

on 04/30/04 at 22:48:28, Chumpzilla wrote:

Actually, NOT knowing the order helps facilitate more trades. 5 guys have the shot for number one, so you are more likely to trade with them.

In my short time in the GBRFL , the worst team has NOT gotten the first pick. So knowing this, I am willing to deal with the number 1,2, and 3 guys in an effort to get the top pick.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on May 1^st, 2004, 1:20pm

on 05/01/04 at 10:29:07, DirkDiggler wrote:

It's almost as if he read my post right above. ;)

Anyway, actually, if he didn't, it just gives our point that much more force (than if he did).

Again, the decision is yours, and you can always do it differently next year. It would be foolish, though, to not at least consider highly the words of those in the know. "Opinions" are only as good as they are informed and thought through.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Walker Boh on May 2^nd, 2004, 12:32am

Not knowing ahead of time sounds like a good idea to me... Since the bottom 5 teams all have an equal chance at the #1 pick, each one of those picks could be considered the #1 pick overall and will hold more value in a trade then a predetermined slot (except of course the #1). This could go a long way into "leveling the playing field" and achieving parity in our league as the more powerful teams will have to give a little more to get their shot at this year's potential franchise players and only one of them will "get what they paid for" . The possibilities are endless and I think it would be a lot of fun. If we don't like it, we can always go back to a more traditional style next year. Either way, I'll be fine with the league's decision.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on May 2^nd, 2004, 1:32am

Since I have one of those lottery picks, I, too, am VERY interested to know which pick it is right now.

However, I understand that there are others who have played in this league for much longer than those of us in the deuce league, so I'll defer to their judgment for now.

With that being said, anyone who wants a shot at Manning, Fitzgerald, Roethlisberger, Williams, Winslow, etc., please feel free to send me an offer as my first round pick is available. I will consider starters or solid backups + draft picks.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Chumpzilla on May 2^nd, 2004, 11:40am

I do agree with what you're saying Steg, however, I won't "pay" as much for a draft spot that is unknown vs. knowing that I am trading for a #1... especially if there is a clear #1 that I'm after. Even if I try to trade for two or three of the lottery picks, I still may end up not getting the #1 (or #2 for that matter). If I don't care about the specific pick and all I care about is a top five pick (because I would take any of the top 5 players available) then knowing the specific pick wouldn't matter... regardless of whether we knew them ahead of time or not.

Just wanted to clarify my angle on this! Thanks to everyone for sharing their views on this! Great food for thought! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on May 2^nd, 2004, 2:51pm

Just an important point of clarification that I want to make sure you guys know as you go about deciding this... Do remember that it is a weighted lottery. The team that came in 6th gets 1 "ticket" in the hat; 7th, 2; 8th, 3; 9th, 4, and 10th, 5. And, actually, Steve's recollection above is a little off. Truth is whoever had the 10th Place guy's (5) "tickets" has gotten the first pick all but one year, last year.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by PrimeTime on May 3^rd, 2004, 12:39pm

Put me down as one who would like to know for sure where my pick is sooner rather than later. Since I came in 6th I will most likely end up the 5th pick.

It will be almost impossible to trade that pick because no one will give much value to the 5th pick. Now if I get lucky and get #1, 2 or 3 then there is value.

I guess if we are going to give unlimited time between draft picks it is no big deal because if you want to trade your pick you can wait until you hear back from all those who are interested and then decide to trade it or keep it. All it really does is push the trading back into the draft rather than prior to the draft.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on May 3^rd, 2004, 3:15pm

on 05/03/04 at 12:39:54, PrimeTime wrote:

I guess if we are going to give unlimited time between draft picks it is no big deal because if you want to trade your pick you can wait until you hear back from all those who are interested and then decide to trade it or keep it.

You can't plan to leave "unlimited time" between picks. As was the case for the origination draft last year, there has to be some time limit, especially at that point in the year, mid to late Augustish I would guess. Injuries during the span of your draft could really mess things up. Just clarifying things and helping you stay focused and on track! :)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by PrimeTime on May 3^rd, 2004, 9:13pm

You know, Steg, you are right. [smiley=yes.gif] That was a pain last year with the amount of time it took to go from pick to pick. Hopefully this year it will go a little faster! [smiley=cruisin.gif]

Maybe we can all agree to a set time when we are all logged on. After the first few rounds we are really drafting to fill out our rosters so it should go quickly.

Steg, how do you guys run your draft? [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on May 3^rd, 2004, 10:01pm

Maybe we can pick a day and draft in the chatroom?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on May 3^rd, 2004, 11:28pm

on 05/03/04 at 21:13:23, PrimeTime wrote:

Steg, how do you guys run your draft? [smiley=shrug.gif]

It's done live at a Jersey shore sports bar for those in the vicinity. Usually, seven or eight of the guys from Virginia up to northern New Jersey are in attendance. For the rest, our guys in Colorado and Florida, it's live via cell phone. Then, afterwards, we usually go out for a night on the town. The last couple years it's been to Dave & Buster's in Philadelphia.

Actually, you guys probably have enough of a core in this region that maybe, just maybe, it could be a consideration to do both drafts on the same day side-by-side. [smiley=ohshit.gif] Just a thought! It could be a real GBRFL festival! You guys would, however, have to be a) flexible and b) patient as, as per recent posts I've made on the GBRFL board and as many of you probably are aware by just knowing my general life circumstances, we won't be setting a firm date until I am "settled" on things, if such a term is really even applicable to "the Rock".

on 05/03/04 at 22:01:54, BarnabyWilde wrote:

Maybe we can pick a day and draft in the chatroom?

More realistically, I suppose, this is a GREAT alternative! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by PrimeTime on May 4^th, 2004, 12:02am

Both sound good to me.

(Although I want to see the famous Steg...what was it called.. a bird dance or a crane dance.. ?.?.? Hell I don't remember but I know Philly couldn't stop raving about it ;D)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on May 4^th, 2004, 12:03am

The Pterodactyl dance, baby! [smiley=chicken.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by PrimeTime on May 4^th, 2004, 12:05am

;D ;D Yes, yes thats it! I need to see it in person! [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by bgsgfan on May 4^th, 2004, 8:52pm

I wouldn't be able to make a live draft, however I think it is an awesome idea! Even if only half the guys make it, the other half could communicate via phones and live is the way to go.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on May 5^th, 2004, 10:19am

As I am one of the guys in the Jersey area, a live draft would work great for me. However, I recognize that guys like Jeremy, Jim, Kirk, Tony, and Jamie would have no chance to get here and that is a very important core of the league.

So maybe another message board draft will be necessary (unless we can arrange one in the chat room).

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by FourTwoOh on May 5^th, 2004, 10:30am

Just a general heads up regarding the draft. The sooner I know when the better, as it will increase the odds of my being able to arrange being home for it. Can and will work it on the road with a combo of lists and a truck stop or two, but being at home, for at least a majority of it, would obviously be prefered.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on May 5^th, 2004, 11:38am

on 05/05/04 at 10:30:17, FourTwoOh wrote:

Is it improper CB etiquette to say "Breaker, Breaker, 1.1, Eli Manning?"

[smiley=hellyeafunny.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by FourTwoOh on May 5^th, 2004, 12:01pm

on 05/05/04 at 11:38:50, Philly wrote:

Is it improper CB etiquette to say "Breaker, Breaker, 1.1, Eli Manning?"

[smiley=hellyeafunny.gif]

;D

Interestingly enough, I don't have, nor want, a CB. Bunch a trash talkin' and not a whole lot else. Odds of getting a straight answer to a question? Maybe 20-30%. A laptop, cellphone, and the satelitte computer that is part of the truck cover me just fine. Although I do miss out on the prostituion chatter. [smiley=hooters.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on May 5^th, 2004, 2:17pm

Based on Kirk's and my very conflicting kind of circumstances, a live draft with the GBRFL is likely out of the question for this year. I would proceed planning an on-line draft and, better yet, in the chatroom. Good luck hammering it out! [smiley=shamrock.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Jul 24^th, 2004, 6:52pm

The "History" page at the site has been updated. Between the two leagues, we now have 211 years of fantasy football experience! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 4^th, 2004, 10:25pm

A las, :P at the league site, the "Rosters" page has been updated, including with your NEW team numbers, and the "Draft" button on the "Transactions" page has been updated. Enjoy! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 5^th, 2004, 10:18am

My roster page, for some reason, still shows the pre draft rosters. Anyone else having this issue? [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on Sep 5^th, 2004, 10:41am

Mine is fine...

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Walker Boh on Sep 5^th, 2004, 10:55am

No problems here. [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 5^th, 2004, 11:18am

Very strange. Mine shows the new team numbers ( I am now 7) but it still shows us in the previous order and it only shows the rosters prior to the draft.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 5^th, 2004, 1:10pm

Holy, hell! What are you talking about? You are Team 5 and everybody's rosters are just hunky-dory. The page is 100% A-Okay:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl2/rosters.htm.

What you wrote there, bro, does not correspond with any reality?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 5^th, 2004, 1:20pm

"Lineups" can now be submitted via the site. The system has been turned over. [smiley=builder.gif] I am now going to send out (user names and) passwords by private message here on "the Gridiron" to those who indicated on the other thread they forgot theirs.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 5^th, 2004, 2:19pm

If you'd like to fly out to California so I can show you what my reality looks like, then feel free. ;) I am just letting you know what I am seeing.

on 09/05/04 at 13:10:25, StegRock wrote:

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 5^th, 2004, 2:59pm

I have tried everything I can think of, and still can't see the updated rosters. I even rebooted the damn computer. I will see what it's like when I get to work in a few hours. I remember way back when I could not see the light bulbs when Steg first changed them on the front page, so maybe it will take a few days. Beat's me. ?.?.?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 5^th, 2004, 3:57pm

on 09/05/04 at 14:59:14, BarnabyWilde wrote:

I remember way back when I could not see the light bulbs when Steg first changed them on the front page, so maybe it will take a few days.

That could be it, Jim. But, usually, that only applies to graphics, not text and such. [smiley=idontknow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 5^th, 2004, 7:04pm

Now, the funny thing is, they are updated at work. Now I at least know it's just my home PC.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by bgsgfan on Sep 5^th, 2004, 7:21pm

Have you cleared out your history and cache on Internet Explorer?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 5^th, 2004, 7:46pm

Tell me how...

on 09/05/04 at 19:21:51, bgsgfan wrote:

Have you cleared out your history and cache on Internet Explorer?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Chumpzilla on Sep 5^th, 2004, 9:24pm

I know this may sound crazy [smiley=stars.gif] but I like to track the games on Sunday and how my team is doing. Can someone please send me the updated scoring sheet for the league? I had it at one point last year but I'm not sure if it is correct. It's the one page Excel sheet. Any assistance is greatly appreciated!!!! My e-mail address is ramatty@comcast.net. Thanks! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by bgsgfan on Sep 5^th, 2004, 9:28pm

on 09/05/04 at 19:46:59, BarnabyWilde wrote:

Tell me how...

Click tools, internet options

Then on the "general" tab, click "delete cookies" and "clear history".

That should clear saved "stuff" and make everything reload instead of using old information.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 5^th, 2004, 9:34pm

Okay, got it. Thanks Jeremy!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Chumpzilla on Sep 5^th, 2004, 10:53pm

Did that work for you BW? [smiley=idontknow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 5^th, 2004, 10:55pm

I'll check when I get home, I am at work right now....

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Chumpzilla on Sep 5^th, 2004, 11:04pm

Excellent! (Not that you're at work!) ;)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Chumpzilla on Sep 6^th, 2004, 10:07pm

on 09/05/04 at 21:24:44, Chumpzilla wrote:

Can anyone help?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on Sep 7^th, 2004, 8:51am

on 09/06/04 at 22:07:07, Chumpzilla wrote:

Can anyone help?

Sorry... I deleted the ones I had after the season ended.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Oct 7^th, 2004, 12:16pm

Fellas, especially those of you who were experiencing difficulties opening the GBRFL or GBRFL2 league home pages (i.e., they were taking a looooong time to open or not all the applets were downloading), you should now find the league home/index pages MUCH faster to open and error-free. I realized yesterday evening that something was in fact going very awry with those pages; (with time I don't have) I figured it out and took the time (out of everything else) to fix it (because of, frankly speaking, all the very severe implications of what was going on that could have been detrimental to the stability of the whole domain, actually all of my domains). I hope ALL you guys now enjoy navigating to the league home pages (and no longer have to go around them (if you still experience problems, it is on your end, for sure, now, i.e. connection speed, computer speed, browser settings, etc., etc.)). Anyway,...

GBRFL - http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl/

GBRFL2 - http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl2/

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Oct 14^th, 2004, 8:08pm

Guys, I am going to turnover the system over at the league site now so you can submit your lineups for Week 6. However, the Week 5 results will NOT be posted yet. I have a paper due tomorrow. It's a short one and I am over halfway done with the writing, so it shouldn't be much longer. If I get it done by a reasonable time tonight, like say 1:00 a.m., which I think, no pray, will happen, I may come back over to the computer lab here and post Week 5's results. I am heading up to Jersey tomorrow afternoon for the weekend, so if Week 5's stuff is not up tonight it won't be until tomorrow night late or even Saturday. Thanks for your anticipated understanding, patience and according cooperation. [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Dec 18^th, 2004, 8:10pm

Guys, I've been workin' it... [smiley=steg.gif] ... :P I have made a behind-the-scenes upgrade to the lineup submissions section of the league site. It affects how you go about viewing another's lineup when the system has been set for viewing all lineups and disabling lineup submissions (this has already been done for this week). You will now have to make the extra steps of inputting your permissions every time you want to see someone else's lineup. It is a small hassle, but one WELL worth it. None of you probably noticed or would even be looking for ways to cheat, BUT if you were savy enough and looked hard enough, there has been a way to cheat, though not in a very big way, ALL ALONG. I myself with all the work I do on and all the knowledge I have of this stuff just found this hole this season (I saw it about 10 weeks ago). I am always looking for ways to upgrade things. This probably didn't matter for our current, small-scale purposes. But, I am always working on things with an eye toward the future. There is a chance I may run pay GBRFL-style leagues someday, and any baby steps that can be proactively made beforehand only help in the long-run. [smiley=yes.gif] Anyway, enjoy the NEW uncrackable, cheater-combatting system, boyz! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Jan 1^st, 2005, 11:44pm

The "Schedule (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl2/schedule.htm)" page at the site has been updated with tomorrow's Bumper Week matchups! Good luck, everybody! [smiley=shamrock.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Jan 4^th, 2005, 12:36am

The site has been updated for the end of the '04 season. Congratulations to your Champion and all three of your top finishers... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Jun 12^th, 2005, 6:23pm

FYI, [smiley=steg.gif] the "Rosters" and "Transactions" pages over at the GBRFL2 web site have been updated. Enjoy!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Jun 12^th, 2005, 6:45pm

Thanks Steg! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on Jun 13^th, 2005, 8:32am

Good deal Steg. Thanks for the efforts!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Jun 13^th, 2005, 10:02am

on 06/13/05 at 08:32:14, Philly wrote:

Good deal Steg. Thanks for the efforts!

The web page you put up and maintained was a TOTAL help, bro! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Aug 4^th, 2005, 11:44pm

A little home page face-lift is in the works, boyz!!! [smiley=builder.gif] Nothing crazy... Just a little somethin' somethin'! ;D Be on the lookout! [smiley=threed.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 4^th, 2005, 11:22pm

Well, boyz, the league site hath finally been updated and is ready to roll into the '05 season! All pages have been reset, including most importantly, for you guys the "Rosters" page, and the NEW "Lineup Submission Form", which is now tailored to our NEW system of dual-lineups for weeks when you have bonus games. It's basically the same, BUT it is different enough for me to HIGHLY recommend your not leaving things to the last minute, especially Week One, which commences ON THURSDAY!!! You NEED to get accustomed to it beforehand and, ideally, get a preliminary lineup in A.S.A.P.

ALSO, you may have already noticed the NEW league home page. If not,... IT'S HOT (if I must say so myself)!!! [smiley=awwgee.gif] For one, the page is now much slimmer and trimmer (out with the excessive number of java applets, which slowed the loading of the page down for many of you, and much of the information stuff that can be found nicely consolidated on "the Gridiron Newsstand", which is still linked to on the page). MOST IMPORTANTLY though, it puts to use "'the Gridiron' Add-on (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/addit.php)" feature. This 1) gives me a display page by which to market this FREE add-on and 2) as FantasyFootballer.com matures and evolves it makes the league home page into a portal page, a technique I want to develop as the site beyond the "the Gridiron" forum grows. The league home page is now located at:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl2/index.php.

NOW,... go get on over to your "Lineup Submission Form" and get acquainted with it and practice... [smiley=onit.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 5^th, 2005, 1:54pm

Quote:

FYI..I can not see the new update rosters...I remember having this problem last year too...no biggie, just FYI!

Try cleaning out your "Temporary Internet Files". Right-click your browser (e.g. Internet Explorer) icon; choose "Properties"; under the "General" tab, the one that should be the initial one appearing, click "Delete Files" (and maybe do "Delete Cookies" as well). Making it a habit to delete "Temporary Internet Files" and "Cookies" every now and then is a good thing, in any event. For one, you'll avoid hang-ups like these.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Chumpzilla on Sep 5^th, 2005, 6:50pm

Hey Steg! I just took a look and submitted my line-up. Everything is pretty slick! Thanks for your efforts on this. GREATLY appreciated!!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 5^th, 2005, 7:03pm

Well, I did eveything you suggested and still no luck. I am sure it will somehow fix itself.

on 09/05/05 at 13:54:37, StegRock wrote:

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 5^th, 2005, 11:09pm

on 09/05/05 at 18:50:01, Chumpzilla wrote:

Hey Steg! I just took a look and submitted my line-up. Everything is pretty slick! Thanks for your efforts on this. GREATLY appreciated!!

Thank you for noticing... and noting! :D

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 6^th, 2005, 2:52pm

Fellas, just a heads up... Know that a great way to practice with the "lineup submission form" unofficially is by way of the "Guest" lineup submission form. To do so, just click where it says "Guests Click Here" on the left-hand side on the "Lineups" frames-page:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/line-upssubmissionform.htm.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Tony_O on Sep 6^th, 2005, 4:30pm

Here's an idea.....how about skip the practice and just put in your line-ups! Two days left and not much has changed!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 7^th, 2005, 1:02am

on 09/06/05 at 14:52:40, StegRock wrote:

on 09/06/05 at 16:30:05, Tony_O wrote:

Here's an idea.....how about skip the practice and just put in your line-ups! Two days left and not much has changed!

I realize that your point is to trash-talk your compadres here, Tony. The point of my post was to be helpful. Unfortunately, our two agendas here didn't mesh. I just didn't like the feeling I got from your message. Though I know it was not intended for me, it was in specific response to my post and on this administration-type thread, so I kind of got ground up in your gears there. ... Anyway,... in Tony's spirit, please don't leave the submission of your lineup to too late. The form is basically the same, but it is different enough to throw you off if you were in an extreme hurry Thursday evening.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Tony_O on Sep 7^th, 2005, 1:24am

Yeah....I wasn't trying to step on your toes boss.....just trying to light a fire under these guys.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Walker Boh on Sep 7^th, 2005, 7:37am

Steg, Great job on the GBRFL2 site. It loads much faster and looks great... nice, clean, lean and mean! Yeah baby! Also, the "View my Current Roster" link on the Submission Form was a nice upgrade. The fact that it pops up in a little box is perfect for its application. You da man!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by captainpurple on Sep 7^th, 2005, 11:48am

How do you look at another teams lineup? I'd like to check the lineups of the guys I'm playing this week.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on Sep 7^th, 2005, 11:58am

on 09/07/05 at 11:48:47, captainpurple wrote:

How do you look at another teams lineup? I'd like to check the lineups of the guys I'm playing this week.

Of course you would, wouldn't you? But that feature is not available until after the passing of the lineup submission deadline - when no one can change their lineups.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by captainpurple on Sep 7^th, 2005, 1:19pm

hmmmm, interesting. ;)

being the new guy, i'll withhold judgment on that limitation for a while 8-)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 7^th, 2005, 2:46pm

on 09/07/05 at 13:19:27, captainpurple wrote:

hmmmm, interesting. ;)

being the new guy, i'll withhold judgment on that limitation for a while 8-)

[smiley=uh.gif] ... Am I missing the sarcasm here? :-/

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by captainpurple on Sep 7^th, 2005, 3:05pm

on 09/07/05 at 14:46:05, StegRock wrote:

[smiley=uh.gif] ... Am I missing the sarcasm here? :-/

you must be. i was trying to indicate I'm fine with it, as long as it doesn't cost me a game :D

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 7^th, 2005, 3:19pm

on 09/07/05 at 15:05:21, captainpurple wrote:

you must be. i was trying to indicate I'm fine with it, as long as it doesn't cost me a game :D

Ahhhh... Gotchya... That's what I thought... Have an ice cream on me ([smiley=hmmmm.gif]...[smiley=joker.gif]), bro!

By the way, though, as these guys can attest... This is not (run with the funding of) CBS Sportsline, ESPN or Yahoo!. This is a homespun league and homemade web site, which, of course, has its advantages, namely uniqueness and it's FREE (I do appreciate occasional DONATIONS, however, that substantively show appreciation). But, it also has its disadvantages. Lineups may or may not be exposed ([smiley=dick.jpg]...[smiley=hmmmm.gif]...[smiley=joker.gif]) week in and week out on time. There are times when they may not be accessible until Monday, so I suggest that you guys, after kickoff, if this is the case, take the initiative and share your lineups by way of a thread here on you all's board. Also, results probably won't see the light of day this year until Wednesday afternoon/evening (given my heavily front-loaded class schedule on Monday and Tuesday and the fact that I live in Hawaii 3 to 6 hours behind you guys). The improved spreadsheet will make things much quicker for me (and Jamie [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif]) this year, but on Sunday night, Monday and Tuesday, I don't have time to sniff my ass, no less take a shower, no less deal with this.

...

WB, thanks for the kudos! [smiley=bow.gif] None of it was a small job! :P

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Walker Boh on Sep 7^th, 2005, 7:10pm

on 09/07/05 at 15:19:32, StegRock wrote:

The improved spreadsheet will make things much quicker for me (and Jamie [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif]) this year, but on Sunday night, Monday and Tuesday, I don't have time to sniff my ass, no less take a shower, no less deal with this.

I've got the scoring covered... new and improved, can't wait to see it! Send me what I need and/or give me a call. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by jimmyc on Sep 8^th, 2005, 2:18pm

guys i emailed Steg for my password earlier in the week and still havent received one. unfortunatley it was on my old computer. i know lineups are due by 6pm pacific time. any ideas on what i could do i dont want to miss out on week one!..thanks for your input!!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 8^th, 2005, 2:45pm

on 09/08/05 at 14:18:55, jimmyc wrote:

I will give you your username and password right here right now by private message. I did say in that message that e-mail is NOT the way to go to contact me. I have looked at my e-mail once since sending that e-mail to you guys and that was fairly shortly thereafter. If you need to get through to me quickly, do NOT use e-mail! Also, you could always just "private message" me your lineup here in a pinch. :)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by jimmyc on Sep 8^th, 2005, 5:00pm

thanks steg!!.....your message is noted!!..thanks for getting back to me!!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 8^th, 2005, 10:56pm

You're welcome, jc! [smiley=bow.gif]

...

"Rosters" and "Transactions" pages on the league site have been updated!!! [smiley=borg.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 15^th, 2005, 5:32pm

Week 1's results are finally up over at the league site. Both the "Results" and "Standings" pages have been updated. Sorry for the delay! :-[ Week 1 tends to be the craziest! But, with the NEW, UPGRADED sheet that my lovely wife Gino is primarily responsible for putting together and Jamo givin' me a hand [smiley=builder.gif] starting next week (until then all yous can just give ME [smiley=awwgee.gif] and Gino [smiley=cheerleader.gif][smiley=pudwhacker.gif] a hand (no, not give yourselves a "hand", you perverts [smiley=eatme.gif], I mean... [smiley=clap.gif]) ;) ... [smiley=laugh.gif]), it will probably be smooth sailing [smiley=sailin.gif] from here on out. :) I will leave the "Lineups" section alone until tonight (my time) so yous can double-check your opponents' lineups.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 21^st, 2005, 9:14pm

Guys, Week 2's results are up... [smiley=builder.gif] I'll turn over the lineup submission system on the morrow... [smiley=wave.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 29^th, 2005, 12:15am

Week 3's results are up!!! [smiley=builder.gif] Lineups will be able to be submitted sometime on the morrow.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Oct 1^st, 2005, 12:16am

Fellas, a small, but quite consequential error in Week 3's results was found this evening (while I was on the phone with Jamo giving him the in-service on how to go about working with the new and improved GBRFL Excel Worksheet). It caused the reversal of one game. The "Results" and "Standings" pages have been (re-)updated accordingly. Sorry for the biff, guys. :-[

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Chumpzilla on Oct 1^st, 2005, 10:07am

Ok guys. Thanks for the note. Can someone please explain to me why the NFL has credited T.J. Houshmandzadeh with a fumble lost in the Week #3 game but we are not considering that in our scoring? ?.?.?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Oct 1^st, 2005, 1:29pm

Ray, that is because the (raw) stats service I use TQStats doesn't have him credited with one and that fact is corroborated by both ESPN.com and CNNSI.com. Actually, NFL.com, which is where I am guessing you got your info from as they do have him credited with a lost fumble, is, ironically, a VERY unreliable source for final, week-end, official stats. From what I can tell, they tend to leave up the immediate-end-of-game, UNofficial stats. They never change them to the final, official line. Sorry for breaking the bad news to ya, bro... But, just remember to NEVER go by NFL.com's box scores when calculating your games on your own.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Chumpzilla on Oct 1^st, 2005, 2:00pm

Can you please tell me what the scoring error was?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Oct 1^st, 2005, 2:04pm

I had the wrong defense (and coach) (a defense and coach, which, mind you, he doesn't even have) in for Mile High Madness's second game of the week (the one against you). Just give a look at the spreadsheet, bro.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Chumpzilla on Oct 1^st, 2005, 8:54pm

I would have compared spreadsheets but I didn't save the original one with the errors. Thanks for the info.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Oct 1^st, 2005, 9:03pm

Ray, if you put "Phi" (for the Philadelphia Eagles), which is what I had in for him, in for his defense, you get the original incorrect final score. Over and out... [smiley=onit.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Nov 3^rd, 2005, 9:07pm

It was brought to my attention by cp [smiley=bow.gif] that there was a boo-boo on the "Standings" and "Results" pages for Week 8. [smiley=onit.gif] It's all been fixed... [smiley=builder.gif] Sorry. :-[

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Nov 16^th, 2005, 2:35am

Fellas, just a heads up... I have got A LOT on the plate right now at school... BIG presentation and paper due next Tuesday. So, Week 10's results are in all likelihood going to get posted VERY late this week, like Saturday perhaps. I apologize in advance for the inconvenience. In any event, as such, the lineup submission section is going to be turned over before the results are posted. So, if you want to be able to double-check your games immediately, you all may want to go about jotting down your opponents' rosters soon. Thank you all in advance for once again bearing with me... After next Tuesday, though, I will be freed up quite a bit for the rest of the season. :)

P.S. to Jamie (Yes,... bro,... the implication of this is that I probably won't even be getting around to "pre"-prepping the raw stats to send to you until Friday or Saturday. Sorry, man.)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Nov 22^nd, 2005, 10:40am

The lineups section has been "turned over" so you can submit your lineups. This is due to the VERY short fantasy week we have this week because of Thanksgiving. [smiley=turkey.gif] Lineups MUST be in by kickoff of the FIRST game on Thursday. Week 11 results will be posted as soon as I can get around to it, probably tomorrow afternoon/evening. Jamie, I will have the raw stats to you hopefully [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] tonight.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Dec 7^th, 2005, 2:22pm

I'm not quite out of the woods yet here for this semester... [smiley=RIF.gif] ... [smiley=howtoput.gif] This will likely be one of those weeks where the lineups section gets turned over before the results are put up. Thank you for your anticipated patience!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Jan 1^st, 2006, 9:21pm

Just an update... Something I forgot to do that I just did... I have gone ahead an updated the "Schedule" page at the league site to reflect the precise Week 17 matchups according to team number. Here's a direct link:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl2/schedule.htm#Week 17.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Jan 6^th, 2006, 5:52am

Fun, fun, fun,... get your butts on over to the "Game Results (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl2/results.htm)" page over on the league site and check out [smiley=checkin.gif] the "NEW Extended Week 17" game "updates"... ENJOY... what the [smiley=spchef.gif] Rock is cookin' up for yous!!! [smiley=lickinmychops.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Jan 6^th, 2006, 6:41am

on 01/06/06 at 05:52:43, StegRock wrote:

Since you guys actually have a final score in, I decided to bring you all's "Standings" page over at the league site up-to-the-moment, too. :D Again, ENJOY! ;D

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Jan 14^th, 2006, 12:11am

Sorry for the delay, fellas! Among the factors,... we had to do the stats manually (long story, which most of you, since you are playing in the "Post-season Contest", know); moreover, it was the first week of spring semester for me, so back to... [smiley=RIF.gif] and [smiley=howtoput.gif] (it held up my contacting Jamie this week). Anyway, the results through Wild-Card Weekend have been updated. Check it out: "Results (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl2/results.htm)". There is also another "final" score in (I actually think I just missed it last week :-[), so the "Standings" page as well has been updated and one team's '05-'06 season is over. Enjoy! [smiley=checkin.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Chumpzilla on Jan 14^th, 2006, 12:22am

Thanks Steg! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Jan 19^th, 2006, 2:50pm

With the Divisional Playoff Round now behind us, more GBRFL2 games are in the books, AND, MOREOVER, a championship has been clinched. There are still "key" games to be played, but with a "1st place over last place" thrashing, the second-place team has been mathematically eliminated. The site has been updated:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl2/.

Congrats, Ray! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Chumpzilla on Jan 19^th, 2006, 8:03pm

Thanks Steg! Now I can stop holding my breath! While I don't know what the final standings will look like (nor my final game), I would like to say great season and great finish to Jamie and Jeff!! [smiley=twothumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Jan 26^th, 2006, 8:05pm

Results through the Conference Championships are up...

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Feb 11^th, 2006, 2:57pm

Results through the Super Bowl have been posted, and now it is final... No results are pending... The third GBRFL2 season is officially in the books, that is. Thank you all for another great year of solid participation! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] And, congrats, again to your champion, Ray Matty! [smiley=bow.gif] There are (rather meaningless, mind you) results still pending over in the mother league, so, so I can do this all in one quick sitting, I will probably not get around to updating the pages indicating the new defending champ until that goes final (sometime as soon as possible after tomorrow, obviously; that actually goes for all the leagues whose champs are indicated right here on the index page for "the Gridiron"). In any event, though, you may now officially commence your offseason activity.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by PrimeTime on Feb 11^th, 2006, 3:21pm

Congratulations Chumpzilla! [smiley=alcoholic.gif]

I am ready to rebuild for next year, everyone feel free to send me trade offers.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Feb 13^th, 2006, 2:15am

I had made a boo-boo in the final standings. Namely, the team I had coming in third actually came in fifth; the team in fifth, fourth, and the team in fourth, third. So, you all's "bronze medalist" is not the guy who was initially listed. Sorry, fellas!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on Feb 18^th, 2006, 9:50pm

on 01/19/06 at 20:03:44, Chumpzilla wrote:

Congrats on the title, Ray. Nice to see Eagles fans finish 1-2 this year. Great season everyone!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Feb 19^th, 2006, 2:36am

All relevant pages now indicate your NEW Champion... including the index page right here of "the Gridiron"!!! Congrats, Ray!!!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by The Juror on Feb 21^st, 2006, 6:46pm

Congrats on the Championship!!

Keith

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Jul 7^th, 2006, 9:30pm

The "Rosters" and "Transactions" pages at the league site have been updated for '06...

Site home - http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl2/.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Aug 18^th, 2006, 9:20pm

Fellas, there is a new additional phone number up on the "Owner Information" page for me that will be active starting next Wednesday. It is our new local home number, and it would be the one I would want you guys to primarily use (as opposed to "the English Master" cell with the central NJ area code, which is the other one listed). [smiley=phone.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Aug 22^nd, 2006, 3:42am

The "Rosters" and "Transactions" pages over at the league site are up-to-date!!! [smiley=builder.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by PrimeTime on Aug 22^nd, 2006, 11:40am

Hey Steg, any idea when the draft order for the first 5 will be published?

If you are busy with school, we can get someone who is picking 6 - 10 to run the lottery. I trust all those guys to do it fairly. I'm sure Philly or Chumpzilla would do it.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on Aug 22^nd, 2006, 12:01pm

As trustworthy as I am, I'm sure that Jim would be crying foul if he got anything other than the top pick. ;)

Anyway, last year DirkDiggler, of GBRFL1 fame, was nice enough to take care of that little matter for the deuce league.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Aug 22^nd, 2006, 3:32pm

The lottery draft order will be up sometime today/tonight you all's time... Thank you for your patience! ... Oh, and you're welcome on getting the site updated... ;) ... :-/

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by MordecaiCourage on Aug 22^nd, 2006, 3:54pm

Thanks Stegger!!! Everything looks great!!!! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by The Juror on Aug 22^nd, 2006, 4:07pm

Thanks Steve!!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by PrimeTime on Aug 22^nd, 2006, 4:57pm

Thanks Steg. Much appreciated :)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Tony_O on Aug 22^nd, 2006, 5:04pm

Much appreciation Steve.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Aug 22^nd, 2006, 5:44pm

I have finished in the bottom 3 every year, yet I seem to fail to get a top 3 pick. It kind of sucks not being able to get the guy I wanted each of the last 2 years. I hope it does not happen again. :-X

on 08/22/06 at 12:01:12, Philly wrote:

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Aug 22^nd, 2006, 5:49pm

on 08/22/06 at 15:32:57, StegRock wrote:

The lottery draft order will be up sometime today/tonight you all's time... Thank you for your patience! ... Oh, and you're welcome on getting the site updated... ;) ... :-/

Thanks Steg!!

You [smiley=guitarist.gif] [smiley=drummer.gif] [smiley=headbanger.gif] [smiley=band.gif] [smiley=guitar.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by captainpurple on Aug 22^nd, 2006, 6:13pm

on 08/22/06 at 15:32:57, StegRock wrote:

The lottery draft order will be up sometime today/tonight you all's time... Thank you for your patience! ... Oh, and you're welcome on getting the site updated... ;) ... :-/

[smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Tony_O on Aug 22^nd, 2006, 6:17pm

on 08/22/06 at 15:32:57, StegRock wrote:

The lottery draft order will be up sometime today/tonight you all's time... Thank you for your patience! ... Oh, and you're welcome on getting the site updated... ;) ... :-/

Were all just standing around in anticipation like.....

[smiley=bouncin.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Walker Boh on Aug 22^nd, 2006, 10:29pm

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Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on Aug 24^th, 2006, 9:35am

HEY GUYS... If you're planning your draft strategy... please be aware that there is a mistake on the rosters.

I did NOT protect Alvin Pearman, I protected Deuce McAllister.

I'll send a note to Steg to fix it on the rosters. Just didn't want anyone trying to draft McAllister tonight.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Aug 24^th, 2006, 10:12am

[smiley=wizard.gif]It's been fixed.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on Aug 24^th, 2006, 10:14am

[smiley=bow.gif]

Thanks for the quick work! [smiley=yes.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Aug 27^th, 2006, 3:08am

The "Rosters" and "Transactions" pages at the league site have been brought up-to-the-moment. Also, '06 team numbers have been assigned, so you can now see what your schedules are. [smiley=hungry.gif] Enjoy! [smiley=lickinmychops.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by MordecaiCourage on Aug 27^th, 2006, 7:28am

Thanks Steg...you da man ;D

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on Aug 27^th, 2006, 9:38am

Thanks Steg... I'll check it out and QC it against what I have.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 1^st, 2006, 4:32am

Guys, our home (808) phone number, which is listed on the "Owner Information" page has, alas, been activated (as of Tuesday, actually). PLEASE, if you want to give me a buzz, [smiley=phone.gif] especially during the week, primarily use that home number as opposed to "the English Master" (732) cell. Thank you!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by MordecaiCourage on Sep 2^nd, 2006, 9:20am

I am unable to access my team information (Line-ups , etc.) Steg, can you please send me my info. to do this? I have only been in under the Guest login.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 3^rd, 2006, 4:51am

League site is all updated for the new season (save for the lineups section not being turned over, which will happen on Monday or Tuesday)! :)

Ken, Todd, you got your e-mails...

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Walker Boh on Sep 4^th, 2006, 11:20am

Thanks Steg! [smiley=twothumbsup.gif]

Looks like my first two victims will be Jim and Gene... get ready ladies!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 4^th, 2006, 9:00pm

Please bitch!! :)

on 09/04/06 at 11:20:22, Walker Boh wrote:

Thanks Steg! [smiley=twothumbsup.gif]

Looks like my first two vicitims will be Jim and Gene... get ready ladies!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 5^th, 2006, 3:46am

The lineups section has been turned over. You can now submit your Week One lineups! REMEMBER they must be in IN FULL by the kickoff of Thursday night's game!!!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 7^th, 2006, 11:26am

Guys, it's 5:25 a.m. here... I am, alas, going to BED... [smiley=sleepers.gif] The game is taped-delayed here, so I'll be "ignoring" things in the afternoon, and, in any event, I have class that goes right through kickoff (and I have work [smiley=RIF.gif] to do for said class that I have to fit somewhere between snoozing, peeing, eating, pinchin' a poo, showering,... AND 1:30). Point being, this is probably it for me until after kickoff,... in fact, very late tomorrow night you all's time. So, just to cover all bases here,... if anyone were not to submit a lineup by kickoff, remember that their games are not forfeited. Their lineup would be determined by going by "seniority" on their roster (i.e., for simpletons, [smiley=dunce.gif] ... [smiley=gimmeabreak.gif] left to right as per the "Rosters (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl2/rosters.htm)" page, the first 2 QB's (read left to right), 3 RB's, etc., etc.). As you guys should be accustomed, the guy listed leftmost at every position is the guy who has been on your team the longest. In fact, this is how it goes if "cascading" ever goes "beyond" the lineup submitted (as yous should know). Anyway,... I'm calling it a night... [smiley=yawn.gif] day... [smiley=sunny.gif] ... [smiley=wavinbye.gif] See yous on the other side...

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 14^th, 2006, 5:05pm

Sorry for the delay, fellas... Either TQStats or StatsInc, who provide the stats to TQStats, decided to change player numbers this year (I suppose to keep them within four digits). This created a mini-nightmare on our (slowly, but surely increasingly automated) spreadsheet. Anyway, ALAS, the "Game Results" and "Standings" pages over at the league site have been updated for Week One. :P Please go on over and check things (i.e. the spreadsheet) out before I flip over the lineups submission area, which will probably be late (wee hours) tonight (you all's time).

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Philly on Sep 22^nd, 2006, 12:30pm

Week 2 Error...

Hey guys... there's an error with my week 2 scores. Sorry I didn't post it earlier, but I didn't know that scores had been processed.

My starting receivers are listed as: Evans, Gonzo, Lelie

They were submitted as: Steve Smith (no stats), Lee Evans, Joey Galloway, Muhsin Muhammad, ... etc. (Lelie was dropped and Gonzo was much lower on the list.)

Steg? Jamie? Could someone look into this for me? I plugged in some numbers and it doesn't look like it changes W/L records, but it might change the FA priority order.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 22^nd, 2006, 4:42pm

Jeff, there is no problem,... except that you were consulting the wrong spreadsheets... because I had Week 2's spreadsheet link linking to Week 1's. [smiley=doh.gif] Sorry 'bout that! :-[ I hope you didn't blow too much time dinkin' around with this. Patience and even a little hesitance aren't bad things. The link on the "Game Results" page is now correct, and you will see that the lineups, scores and standings are all in order (as far as I can tell). :)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Tony_O on Sep 22^nd, 2006, 9:07pm

The only problem is that you show both Rob and I with San Diego's D, but only Rob should have them. I played with the Bills D. The outcomes will not change, but I think I would have more points. I'm ok leaving it like it is, to save you from doing anymore work!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Sep 22^nd, 2006, 10:09pm

on 09/22/06 at 21:07:49, Tony_O wrote:

No, no, no... It must be fixed! Always tell us about this kind of stuff, and the SOONER the BETTER! And, NOTHING is too small. If we are told too late, it can really make for a TON of work... untangling shit! I'm going to take a look at this right now. And, guys, go through that spreadsheet with a fine-tooth comb, PLEASE!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by Walker Boh on Sep 23^rd, 2006, 9:34am

on 09/22/06 at 21:07:49, Tony_O wrote:

Hey guys, I'm sorry about that... It was my bad, 100%. Like Steg said, look over the spreadsheets with a fine tooth comb, and don't be afraid to speak up if a mistake has been made. I do my best to get it right, and double & triple check it before I send it, but things like this can slip through and everything gets jacked.

Time for me to go into lockdown mode and get this shit right!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
Post by StegRock on Oct 27^th, 2006, 2:42am

Guys, on to "real" "business",...

I hope our pal Jamo and his family are well. I have not yet received the results for the week from him, and I unfortunately do not have the time to be dealing with this tonight. If I end up having to do it this week (there would be some serious irony in that :-/), I'm not going to be able to get around to it until hopefully [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] tomorrow afternoon my time, night you all's. In any event, I am going to go ahead and turn over the lineups section now so you all can go ahead and submit your Week 8 lineups.

Jamo, if you read this, please fill me in as to what's up! Again, I hope all is well.

Over and Out,
Steg

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by Chumpzilla on Oct 27^th, 2006, 9:21pm

Is anyone else having trouble seeing prior year standings? Every I select a prior year standings link a Hotmail log-in screen appears. Please let me know if you guys see this. I wnat to make sure it isn't anything on my end. Thanks!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Oct 27^th, 2006, 10:38pm

Well, boyz, that other damned thread has claimed a casualty, and a big one at that, both from a personal and administrative perspective (but it is what it is). :'( Jamo didn't take too well to a couple things and, as such, has decided to "retire" from the site. That's right... "Poof"... "Gone for good!" Contributing to this, I, for one, wrote...

on 10/23/06 at 02:52:55, StegRock wrote:

Thanks for getting my back, Jamo. But, what I've quoted here above,... Arrrgh! >:( ... ;) A geek is something I've never been, and while that doesn't stand for a row of beans to people who only know me via cyber-space and philosophy is choc-a-bloc of them, I cannot deny, (which drives me bananas) I am pretty sure you (and some of you others) know how much I hated the FFToday moniker of FF Geek and that I hate domain names like HuddleGeeks.com. I really dislike that our hobby is tagged with the geek stigma. Bad choice... [smiley=nownow.gif] I would have been more amenable to nerd, [smiley=nerd.gif] even... :D

Given that he was going out on a limb for me, he didn't appreciate what I focused on there. He's got somewhat of a point. I immediately called him this morning and apologized to him about that on his voicemail. But, as I wrote in a subsequent e-mail, "You (like Ken) took my comments totally out of context and proportion (and, obviously, paid no attention to the smilies in that post). That having been said, I am looking for someone to get my back full-heartedly, i.e. not do ANYthing to grate me when doing so,... just put the brass knuckles on and "go to war" with me (you know I don't like the geek shit as it relates to fantasy football from going back to my FFToday days)." The point being, his taking the degree of offense he did from that post above only confirms this guardedness you guys have about getting my back whole-heartedly. Don't get me wrong... That is something I will ponder self-reflectively. But, ALL THINGS considered, don't hold your collective breath thinking I'm going to come to a conclusion you are going to like. I digress... This, more so, just furthers my insight into what you are... I am getting myself into here in this "impatient, short-term-memory, quipy, small-minded, faceless, cold, unpredictable, loose-cannon, machismo-filled, lack-of-gratitude, short-sighted, take-take-take, wildcard, frankly speaking unreal/fantasy" internet environment and the "friends" you... I make in it. I mean... this is a guy who went out of his way to call me just a week ago after realizing about the earthquake, and he just cuts ties like this... Insane! There is something not real about that. In fact, scaling back may not be a bad thing before pressing forward. I mean... this site ultimately ain't goin' anywhere. It's the GBRFL's and mine, and if that's all it is/returns to being, I'm at peace with that. It would be A LOT less work and headaches. That said, I don't see that happening as I'll always press on and do "my thang", and, bottom line, the long-term track-record of the GBRFL and my relationships therein, with people who really intimately know me, including a couple internet guys and friends of friends,... who in some cases (down through the years) have become closer with me than the friend who brought them in,... speak for themselves. Bottom line, you can take this site and all that comes with it, including me, for better or worse, or you can leave it (...as, right now, I feel like doing these stats here for you guys like I'd like to add a hole in my head [smiley=shootmyself.gif]). I mean... this site will probably "make it" someday,... but only in that "right" way the GBRFL has. You're either aboard, or you're not. But, the captaining of the ship ain't changing.

But, while I feel bad enough about this and what I did to contribute to it, which I obviously, all things considered, should have done a better job of,... based on his message, it was NOT that post of mine that REALLY got under Jamo's skin. It was, quite frankly speaking, the (as I stated, inadvisable) low-blow Jim dealt when he wrote...

on 10/23/06 at 00:18:39, BarnabyWilde wrote:

Wow, Tony, thank you for getting my back. I could not agree with you more on what wrote about Walker's post. He should have just minded his own business or just sent me a PM. And, I know WB, I am sure you only stepped up to say something because either A) Steg asked you to, or B) you are still bitter about the baseball league, which by the way everyone is this: 2 owners never paid, so Jamie got shorted some winnings. I can no longer reach these out of state people via email (I no longer have valid emails for them) so I can not collect. I was going to pay him out of my own pocket, but money is very tight around my house right now. After his post here, I no longer care about that. That's okay WB, I hold no real ill will towards you or Steg.

First off, just to tease this out... Why should Jamo have minded his business and not (your personal friend) Tony? And, who are you to turn this thing back around on me... us and say YOU hold no real ill-will towards me or us? Why should you? YOU'RE THE ONE WHO STARTED IT, either directly here by saying I can kiss your ass OR indirectly as you admitted by misplacing your anger about the draft lottery. I am... we are... the ones in the position to let you off the hook, not the other way around. That's SO droll, dude! HOWEVER, I think what Jamo took exception to most was your opportunist, apples-and-oranges move and taking this as an opportunity to bring in something else "on your terms", i.e. your not presenting ALL of the key facts, just the ones that put him in a somewhat bad light and shed a good light on you, and, at the end of the day, effectively making him out to be a petty, inconsiderate cheapo while making yourself look like somewhat of a bigger guy... with good intentions, who, though, when it all comes out in the wash, didn't dig down into his pocket and settle the matter.

[offtopic]
on 10/15/06 at 09:33:27, Chumpzilla wrote:

Cold Cash - The amount of money "invested" in a league often keeps all players interested. The more insignificant the amounts (entry/transaction fees), the more likely bottom feeders may become complacent.

on 10/16/06 at 17:00:56, StegRock wrote:

First off, though this may be a way to mitigate the problem, it does bring with it its own very dirty laundry. But, secondly, I don't think this necessarily gets the job done. If someone competes in NOTHING BUT money leagues and, perhaps, moreover, has the money to blow, I see it coming out in the wash the same way. I don't see this as a "logically necessary" solution.

[/offtopic]

Again, as I tried to communicate in another of my posts over on that damn thread, one really treads on thin ice when opting to take this whole ad hoc, apples-and-oranges tack...

on 10/25/06 at 05:47:39, StegRock wrote:

Last, and I'm sorry to have suck Jim back into this whole thing as he's bowed out, but I have to respond to this... because I do take exception to it. Jim, you made it a point to explicitly speculate that I put Jamo up to defend me, which isn't a problem in and of itself, BUT, since you did so, makes your words very tendentious since the guy you are thanking for coming to your aid is a personal friend of yours, moreover, one who has, though become a solid member of the site, not had the best relationship with me, notably telling me that he'd have me eating my teeth, and (I hate to bring this up, but I gotta) went out of his way to, as it turns out, erroneously or at least questionably, praise Jeff for not throwing his being right about Mike Bell in my face. So, Tony, where are my kudos for REALLY not throwing it back in Jeff's face, not even uttering a word about it, even though at the end of the day, when it matters, all that bullshit aside, I ended up being right about Mike Bell? But, I didn't and had NO intention to throw it in his face. I digress... Again, is it this en vogue to stomp on my head whenever the chance can be had, even if it might be questionable or even erroneous, but so out of vogue to get my back or throw a little love my way, even when it's clear-cut? (Mind you, I understand, Tony, that you probably haven't even given this a second thought, which isn't a problem in and of itself. But, when you did give it a thought, I was the one pooped on.) In any event, the degree to which Jamo might have been my henchman, Tony, in a sense, surely was yours. Jamo and I have never met, and, mind you, as yous know, Jamo and I have gone at it (over Jimmy C.), but "worked" through it. But, moreover, as yous know, Jamo takes care of the league spreadsheet for me for you guys. I mean I still have to deal with the raw stats, but he does the scoring sheet (the much bigger task). Point is, because of this "behind the scenes" "work" that he does for me, I think,... nay,... know that he has a deep and very tangible appreciation of what I do (behind the scenes and, thus, more so "overall"), and that appreciation is going to increase as he's just taken another burden off my shoulders. Jamo is now also going to be responsible for updating the web pages, the "Results" and "Standings" pages, after doing the spreadsheet. This is also a time-consumer,... and all this stuff is behind the scenes. I bring this up generally in light of the discussion on this thread about my lack of receptivity to new ideas and suggestions vis-a-vis the work "needing" to be done. Guys, in all honesty, and Jamo's training in it will be ongoing for probably quite some time, but JUST breaking gnarly multi-team ties in the standings can take upwards of 30 to 45 minutes and in some extreme cases it has taken an hour, and that's just you all's league. I also have to do my league's. And, while Jamo will be doing all this stuff, I will probably still have to deal with this aspect for quite some time until he gets a reasonable hang of it. The point, though, is, forget about all the "front-end" stuff, the reports, "the Red Zone" and "between the 20's" stuff, and so on and so forth, I'm talking about spending, on average, about 30 minutes a week working pen-to-paper on tie-breaks in the standings of the GBRFLeagues. Friggin' yikes! And,... the MAIN point here,... Jamo is acquiring an ever-greater appreciation of all that, moreover, by way of helping me get the job done, and why can't that be seen as the inspiration of his getting my back, and whatever other speculation that might go to mitigate that be put aside?

Either take the time to argue it out or don't, and if you don't have the time for it, don't get into it. The bottom line is that pulling that kind of move is tantamount to mud-slinging and can lead to truly hurt feelings and what has transpired here.

That having been said, to the degree that Jamo made this rash decision of his based on my post (about the geek thing) and has stuck me with the load here, that is actually the kind of thing I need to learn about/come to know as this place moves into the future and I have to look at guys as potential co-workers and employees. One day I'm getting a phone call asking if all is okay given the earthquake, and a week later a, perhaps, not entirely sensitive and well-thought-through but, frankly speaking, rather innocuous post of mine gets taken so out of context and proportion as to contribute to a guy's walking away. ?.?.? Let's just say that's a valuable experience to have had as I press forward. I digress... A "parallel" story worth sharing,... back during my college and fraternity days, one of my pledge son's, Jason, a cool, but rather pretentious guy, did something quite selfish and stupid and wound up getting black-balled... by only a couple votes. I came to his defense... BIG-time. Later that night, after being informed, he attempted suicide... It was like proof in the pudding for the guys who saw him as "trouble". Anyway,... still, though, Jim, it was what you wrote that really fucked things up here (yea, Tony, I wrote the f-word,... but I am not (at least the only, I would argue, the main) one who ran Jamo off, which is what is more important than "choice language").

Bottom, bottom line,... this bullshit is affecting my real life. I had a Japanese kanji quiz today. I was up bright and early and making great strides. I was at the point of having my cereal and decided to drop on by here and collect my e-mail... only to receive Jamie's. This causes a sequence of heart-palpatating events causing me to put in a couple calls to Jamie and send him an e-mail and, well, just think about this too much. I end up not studying anymore and being late for a class I was going to be very early for, and in the process of hurrying fuck up the quiz, not much. But, the point is that I CARE ABOUT this stuff to a degree that it REALLY affects my "real" life in very "tangible" ways. I CARE and am COMMITTED that much. Again, this IS MY baby. If you can't be generous in your attitude toward me and keep things in perspective, then, for my sake, consider moving on... to one of the run-of-the-mill FF sites where anything goes. And, the ripple effects have just begun. After posting this, I GOT TO dive right into a 90-or-so-minute job of running the stats for THIS fucking league, where I've had a MISERABLE week of being ganged up on and being called an asshole and big jerk and told how to comport myself (as those "playful" comments, like those of sk, always, at the end of the day, tend to be aimed more at me than any of the other tangoers involved). I had my catch-up weekend, two-plus hours of which have already been chewed up on this post, all mapped out. Somehow, in light of the distraction here, I was ahead on my Steg's List work and ready to dive into some reading and paper-writing this weekend, and in one fell swoop here, I have gone from ahead of the ballgame to behind the eight-ball... yet again. This weekend will now largely be eaten up by a scramble to get Jamo's work done and figure out how to fill in the gaping holes Jamo is leaving... has left at my doorstep. And, for what... whom? Potentially, as I am starting to read the tea leaves, for a bunch of dudes who are starting to think that I "owe" them or that they "own" me or my site because of, really, a few bucks they've tossed me over a four-year period. I mean it's got to be the money. As the donations have gone up, so has the hubris while the thank yous and appreciation have gone down. As Jamo said, and he was right, it is NOT I who have changed. I have been the same long-winded fantasy football-philosophy dickhead and good guy, all wrapped into one, since day one. Knowing now better what comes with, really, a few lousy "donation" bucks, relatively speaking,... make no mistakes, all 4+ years considered, this is still an overall "red" effort for me,... guys, you could, as a league, give me $20 each, $200 for the week, and I wouldn't want to do these damn stats I am about to do for yous,... no less possibly for the rest of the damn season. :-/ I always had an inkling that fantasy footballers were cheap. By and large, they'd rather have yet another free hoopty at Yahoo! than a cream-of-the-crop, "homemade" Rolls Royce for a few bucks. Moreover, many would rather throw more bucks at the big boys like ESPN and so on than the little guy because of a jealousy for little guy with a site (not that you don't have to be careful with some of these so-called, self-proclaimed "experts"). I hoped that people here were growing out of such an attitude,... and I thought that was slowly happening. But, given the change in (I won't say attitude) "ambience" ever since the donations have picked up (and I've opened a couple "non-profit" pay services),... I wonder...

Anyway,... if anybody would like to step up and take on the weekly task of doing the scoring sheet, it is the only thing that will ensure its getting done in a timely fashion week in and week out. If it is left up to me, moreover, if I endure the kind of week with members of this league again in the future,... it's just not, frankly speaking, cannot be a front-burner project. It's going to be about sixth in the queue for me, and that's assuming a smooooooth week. Now, whoever is interested I am going to have to [smiley=phone.gif] speak with. It's going to take a little in-servicing. The amount of wax from the whole ball I will lay on you will depend on how computer-savvy you are. It would be ideal if the person who stepped up could do the whole job Jamie did here,... but I'll take anything. There is basically one key piece I need done that isn't all too difficult. But, mind you, whatever it is, it is not not going to take a significant chunk of time. I would say you have to pencil in about 45 to 90 minutes a week.

So, that's where we stand. I'll do my best... :-/ to have the results for the week up tonight... and thereafter as need be if the responsibility falls on my shoulders.

By the way, there is also the issue of Jamie's vacating his team. I don't necessarily relish bringing someone new, who doesn't know shit about the system or (how to use) the web site, in mid-season. Again, what do you know? Explaining all that is going to be work on me (and not a little bit for those who think these things happen in a snap; in fact, I'm still explaining now and then details of the system and/or web site and lineup submisssion process to our newest two owners). This week the team is likely just going to sit. I'm thinking I may just run it, at some minimal level or full-on if I can muster up the energy, for the remainder of the season. Or, on second thought, maybe I'll let one of the mother-leaguers take it over for the rest of the season.

Out, [smiley=stars.gif]
Steg

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Oct 27^th, 2006, 10:53pm

on 10/27/06 at 21:21:20, Chumpzilla wrote:

Holy clusterfuck... More work... Good pickoff, though... Yes, there was a problem. It was a(n unwitting) residual effect of Jamo's taking over the web-page updating last week,... for what's going to amount to all of one damn week,... THE PATHETIC IRONY! Anyway, it's... [smiley=wizard.gif]fixed... :-/ and I'm tired... and still have you all's shit to do,... forget about the rest of my life... [smiley=no.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by Chumpzilla on Oct 27^th, 2006, 11:30pm

Sorry Steg... I wasn't sure if it was just me. Thanks for the quick fix. It wasn't that important... just something I noticed... Thanks again.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by Chumpzilla on Oct 27^th, 2006, 11:40pm

on 10/27/06 at 22:38:28, StegRock wrote:

Anyway,... if anybody would like to step up and take on the weekly task of doing the scoring sheet, it is the only thing that will ensure its getting done in a timely fashion week in and week out.

Steg, I am computer savvy and am interested in doing this. I would like to find out what is involved to ensure I can "git-r-done."

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Oct 28^th, 2006, 7:07am

on 10/27/06 at 23:30:09, Chumpzilla wrote:

Sorry Steg... I wasn't sure if it was just me. Thanks for the quick fix. It wasn't that important... just something I noticed... Thanks again.

No, nothing is too small, Chumpman... That's great that you picked that up... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] I don't mean to be bitchin' at you. I'm just sick and tired of this place, in all honesty. When I really think it all through, all things considered,... it's all a bit "unreal" to me... I still got a mangy, stupid little nappy mutt nippin' at my heals...

on 10/27/06 at 23:40:45, Chumpzilla wrote:

Steg, I am computer savvy and am interested in doing this. I would like to find out what is involved to ensure I can "git-r-done."

Let me get through this, what is now, shitty weekend and recoup. This has all put me in a rather "self-sufficient" mood,... one which I am sure I'll "get over" soon enough, though,... if I want to make it through this semester. Thank you for offering. [smiley=bow.gif]

Just to throw it out there,... is there anyone who also wouldn't mind pitching in on this stuff (and, at least, helping Ray)???

...

Anyway, "most" importantly, the update for Week 7 is, alas, up! :-/ (I just don't have the emotional energy for... :)) I'm sorry it's late. Before I was all finished, I, at the behest of my wife and friends, "let them" drag me away from this shit and go out for the night. I needed to get away from this place for a few hours, and they knew it... [smiley=bonghit.gif]

"Enjoy", though, right? [smiley=gimmeabreak.gif]

...

Oh, and also,... PLEASE GO THROUGH THIS WEEK'S EXCEL WORKBOOK WITH A FINE-TOOTH COMB AND MAKE SURE I GOT IT ALL RIGHT!!! Remember I'm not familiar with you all's rosters, so... [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by Tony_O on Oct 28^th, 2006, 12:01pm

Just my two cents on Jaime's team......

I think someone, like Steve, should submit one line-up for the rest of the season. It should reflect his strongest team in a cascading order. Steve could also submit his week 17 line-up at the end of the season. I think this would be the fairest solution, since every team would face the same line-up. I don't think anybody should add or subtract, via free agent or trade, any player from his team. It is impossible to say what Jaime would have done. Once, the team is given over to somebody full time, which I would assume be the off-season, they can do whatever they like with the roster. A ghost team, for lack of a better term, should not be affectting our weekly free agent pool.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Oct 28^th, 2006, 7:01pm

Although that may be the way we go,... out of necessity,... I firmly believe that the "best" option is to have a competent "interim" (and potential permanent) owner come in rather than just have a ghost ship sailing through your league and limiting/mitigating the competition. There are no two ways about it. That's lame. Are yous afraid of the old Stegger taking over the team (not that I think I can)??? ;) Anyway, I would also like to hear what people in a "different" part of the standings would say.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by Chumpzilla on Oct 28^th, 2006, 8:49pm

If Jamie's team will be operated "as usual" the new owner should be found now. In that manner the "ghost ship" approach is not used and we aren't using a temporary owner. Just my two cents.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Oct 28^th, 2006, 9:01pm

on 10/28/06 at 20:49:05, Chumpzilla wrote:

If Jamie's team will be operated "as usual" the new owner should be found now.

Again, agreed,... but you guys are speaking pretty much in the "ideal" here. "Now" isn't very long, mainly given the fact that once I go to bed tonight, I won't wake up until right around game-time, and, furthermore, in a few hours it's going to be the wee hours for you east-coasters and getting late for west-coasters. As such,... so as not to, effectively, put me under the gun here... and, gasp, give me a little time to consider my options (I'm still in the throws of picking up all the broken glass here, and not just as concerns this league),... I don't think it is unreasonable at all for me to tide this team over for a week (or two) and seek a replacement next week (or over the next two weeks)/decide if I just want to take it over for the duration, which really is the easiest and most painless solution, administratively speaking. PLEASE, guys,... patience really is going to be a virtue here. Give your ideas,... but, please, don't put me under the gun... :-/ Formulate ideas/proposals that consider me in the equation and, in short, extend over the next week or two,... please. Thank you in advance for the understanding and cooperation it will take to make this as smooth and easy on me as possible.

Also, I still await guys from "other" areas of the standings to chime in... [smiley=ontheclock.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 28^th, 2006, 10:05pm

on 10/28/06 at 21:01:26, StegRock wrote:

decide if I just want to take it over for the duration, which really is the easiest and most painless solution, administratively speaking.

Take the easy road here Steve. Go interim this season and we can always find a replacement in the off season. There will be a few good candidates I'm sure.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by Philly on Oct 28^th, 2006, 10:49pm

Hey Steve... If you're up to it, I think you taking command of Jamie's team is the best decision. But, knowing your time constraints (and general feelings towards the deuce right now), the next best suggestion is to see if there is a GBRFL owner that is willing to step in as an interim owner (or even permanent, if they have the time and desire) until the off-season.

I'd hate to see a first-place team sit idle all season long.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Oct 28^th, 2006, 10:55pm

on 10/28/06 at 22:49:56, Philly wrote:

Duly noted, Jeff... and MC! [smiley=yes.gif] You, Jeff, are right... [smiley=bullseye.gif] Not to take away from your suggestion qua suggestion,... I had thought of that, as well. Your suggesting it does make for more proof in the pudding. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] I'm thinking I'm going to run it for a week or, perhaps, two if need be, and while doing so float it by them. ... Uuuugggghhh... :P

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Oct 28^th, 2006, 11:40pm

I'm all for Steg running it.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by Philly on Oct 29^th, 2006, 12:00am

on 10/28/06 at 23:40:16, BarnabyWilde wrote:

I'm all for Steg running it.

Of course you are... then you'd finally be able to unload Ron Dayne in a trade. [smiley=secret.gif]

;) ;D

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by Tony_O on Oct 29^th, 2006, 12:07am

I truly didn't know that Jaimie's team was in First place. You make me seem like I had and agenda. My bad for not taking more time to research the standings. I was just looking for a quick fix. I could care less. My team still has to be better than the team I play to win. It's your call, Steve, I was just making a suggestion.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Oct 29^th, 2006, 4:39am

Well,... to be honest with yous,... maybe because it offers me a way to take some of my frustrations out on yous directly and get a head-start in that project ;) to boot,... but I'm gettin' into this idea of takin' this team over and gettin' this done right... I just put in my first lineup and submit it by e-mail to Steve Warner of the GBRFL, who will act as my "keeping it honest" guy, so to speak,... and I am... [smiley=pumped.gif] ... [smiley=tough.gif] ARE... YOU... READY??? The Rock is in the house... [smiley=scared.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Oct 29^th, 2006, 7:44am

Steve,
Have you spoken with Jeremy lately? Maybe he would like back in. (thinking down the road)

Also, I would gladly help you with whatever, however I'm still a baby trying to figure this whole thing out. If you really need me to tend to something, I'll be down here in the cellar with the rest of the bottem feeders.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by Chumpzilla on Oct 29^th, 2006, 9:40am

I think you have to look at this and ask "How would this be handled had this happened in the mother league?" Would you allow an owner in the GBRFL2 assume the same role? If the answer is yes, then the path we're heading down seems appropriate. If the answer is no, it seems this should be a short-term (1-2 weeks) solution.

I realize GBRFL2'ers have no say in any league decisions. Rule changes are adopted by the "mother league" and passed down on the GBRFL2. In my opinion the same approach should prevail here.

Just my [smiley=twocents.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Oct 29^th, 2006, 12:29pm

on 10/29/06 at 09:40:18, Chumpzilla wrote:

(Pardon the frustration, but...) DUDE,... what do you want me to do??? You're really puttin' the squeeze on me here... I got so much on my plate,... and you want to make this a mind-fuck on me,... moreover,... after I've just expressed that I'm kind of "gettin' into the idea" of playin' with yous... What... don't you want to play against/with the old Stegger? I can't get in the league I run!?!? YIKES!!! What's the problem with my running the team (for however long I want, for that matter)? In fact, it's one less dude I've got to worry about. Are you perhaps making a problem where there isn't one? Your suggestion, Chumpman, regarding letting a GBRFL2er come in if such happened in the GBRFL is NOT at all analogous (and, given the extreme circumstances here,... and the looong week you guys have put me through, I find, just a touch pretentious). Are you trying to set me up to have to eat my words or give a GBRFLer privilege entrance into the mother league? I mean... that's the "effect" of your thoughts there,... which offer no solution, mind you. And, ESPECIALLY after THIS event, which has definitely and justifiably had a negative effect on my trust of my internet "friends", NOBODY coming from the internet, at this very moment at least, is going to have privilege to enter the GBRFL, my hometown league. In fact, I have discussed with my "homeboys", in informal conversation, that no more than the two spots in our league, the two currently held by guys who came from the internet, will go to guys from the internet, so... Of course, that can change. But, please don't take liberties with my hometown league because I do this for you guys, no less as a result of this fucked-up shit. I just had a guy act like my best buddy and call me in the aftermath of an earthquake one week and do THIS the next. Right now, my level of trust in yous is at an all-time low and needs probably quite a bit of time to repair. In any event,... what the fuck does it matter? After THIS week, to wake up and come to MY site (I'm sorry, Jeff, all,... I've got to use it here... because in light of a fucked-up situation like this, I should be able to do whatever I want and be "appreciated" for it) and read this is such a slap in the face... even though I am sure you didn't mean it, Ray. It's just that your post frustrates me, Ray. [smiley=frustrated.gif] Do you guys ever just think that, "You know, I wouldn't even be in this league if the old Stegger didn't decide to provide it to us back in the day,... provide this whole damn site for that matter. Let me let him be to his devices and deal with this. He usually does a good job of that."??? What would YOUR solution be, anyway,... not just comments,... that would keep the "effort" I'm going to have to put into this (as I'm coming down the wire of the semester) to a minimum??? Oh, and regarding the mother league,... if something like this ever happened, VERY unlikely because we all have met, talk on the phone regularly, know each other, even the internet guys,... I reserve the right to take care of it however I see fit,... period! ... Ultimate effect of this post,... my first 35 minutes of life on Sunday morning blown, instead of "going to work" on the free-agents FOR BOTH LEAGUES,... and now I'm not that excited again to get in there and tussle with yous... :-/

I apologize in advance for the in-the-face nature of this post, Ray. But, I got to call it the way I see it. To me, it was VERY frustrating... "in general", but more so "in context". It's the kind of thing that makes me wonder [smiley=uh.gif] why I don't just pack it in. Is it that difficult to (be) consider(ate of) me and put yourself in my shoes for just a moment when formulating and going to express thoughts, ideas, suggestions, etc.???

Okay,... I've got to get to... "work"... [smiley=builder.gif] (Note to self: ponder at a later time, "What the fuck am I doing here? Is this really worth it?")

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Oct 29^th, 2006, 2:14pm

Just as a "perspectivizer" vis-a-vis my last (frustration-filled [smiley=frustrated.gif]) post there above,... I JUST NOW, ONE hour into the games, finished the "Transactions" for the week for the two GBRFLeagues, BUT was a bit more "energized" (despite my "feelings" right now about this league) because I, at least, was taking part and not JUST volunteering more of my time... That's the seeing of the "bigger picture" I seek to encourage... and that I would like to see factored in when "suggestions" are made OR that I would like to see be a cause for pause before deciding to chime in, i.e. first making sure that you've reeeeeally thought what you want to say/propose through sufficiently (especially if you can kind of portend that what you are "suggesting" just might be stepping on my or someone's toes). Point being,... an analogous story,... I remember back in the day when I was working for Doug Shaw at FootballInsider.com. If yous don't remember the deal, I was working out of home and sending my written work to him by e-mail. I was covering like two-thirds of the league's teams. Anyway, it was a rather smooth relationship (for the season). But, I remember having had a disagreement with him and getting all riled up and taking like three hours to write a Steggie-esque e-mail to him. After just writing it and getting it out of my system, I reflected (yea, I know, what (some of) you guys think I don't do enough of,... [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] which isn't even close to being the case) and thought, "You know... I have a good deal here. I'm working out of home. I'm being paid quite well to write. In the (proverbial) 'bigger picture', what do I REALLY have to complain about? Yea, this particular matter sucks. But, do I want to cut off my nose to spite my face and ruin or, at least, taint this good thing I got,... which, truth be said, this guy is providing for me." I next DELETED the e-mail. I didn't just not send it. I made it so I could NEVER send it. Yous following...??? ... Anyway, I hope this dose of philosophy [smiley=zenmaster.gif] is found acceptable, and perhaps even insightful, by the "powers-that-be"... :)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Oct 29^th, 2006, 6:08pm

You know, Ray, I was reflecting on what you wrote there and had an epiphany about where you are trying to go with that. Incidentally, I had this "epiphany" where I often have them anymore in the bathroom, but this time, more specifically, on the throne... [smiley=caughtonthecan.gif] Anyway, while I still take exception to your tack, what I see you as suggesting (between the lines) is why are we not ghost-shipping [smiley=ghost.gif] this thing. And, while it is a curious point that the two other top teams have suggested this while the rest don't seem to think it is a good idea (regardless as to whether it was intentional or not, Tony, Ray, it is, objectively speaking, a curious point), it is a solution though I don't think a very good one. Anyway, in fact, this did happen in the GBRFL one time, way back in the day, in 1995. It didn't happen like this, of course. It didn't happen with all this ill-will and falderal. It wasn't good, and when he wanted to return the following year, we didn't let him. But, it was a very good friend of mine, and, in fact, we did reinstate him two years later (though the vote was VERY close). Anyway, it was week four, five or six. I can't remember exactly. This is back during the ASG days (as per the "History (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl/history.htm)" page at the site). All this stuff is on paper and back in Jersey. In any event, we did NOT "ghost-ship" [smiley=ghost.gif] the team. We had the owner of ASG run it for three or so weeks, and we found a new owner, some guy named Scott, a friend of my boy Danny's. Incidentally, he didn't return the next year. But, the point is we didn't let the team go unadministrated, thus, tainting the value of a championship for that season. I'm sure you guys, deep-down, don't want to do that, either.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by Chumpzilla on Oct 29^th, 2006, 6:14pm

on 10/29/06 at 18:08:02, StegRock wrote:

what I see you as suggesting (between the lines) is why are we not ghost-shipping [smiley=ghost.gif] this thing.

Incorrect. I DO NOT advocate the ghost ship approach. I DO advocate finding the permanent owner as soon as possible. Let them get their feet wet and tweak the team as they see fit. That is all I was recommending.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Oct 29^th, 2006, 6:21pm

Unfortunately,... we're going in circles... As I stated before, that would be the "ideal". I unfortunately do not think it is going to be an option. It is work on me getting a newbie in here and not mucking things up and making more work for me, which I am sure whatever newbie it would be would end up doing, anyway, given the complex and unusual nature of the GBRFL format. And, please don't go holding a gun to my head to get it done this year given that I am going into week 11 of the semester. In fact, given that a lot of the work for this league may fall back on my shoulders here, as I suggested earlier, it would probably make it "all" a little easier on me if I were participating. You understand where I am coming from...

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by Chumpzilla on Oct 29^th, 2006, 6:23pm

Absolutely! [smiley=twothumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by Philly on Oct 29^th, 2006, 7:53pm

We've got a similar situation facing us in the Giants of the Gridiron League, where Jamie (and his two friends) not only abandoned their teams, they purged all of their players and replaced them with a bunch of waiver-wire junk.

While I said that finding a temp to full-time owner for the GBRFL2 would be ideal, I suggested just the opposite in the other league. I don't know that we'd be able to find three owners in short order to step in and take over, where we do have that option in the deuce league here.

Take it for what it's worth, but I'm near the bottom of the standings here and near the top of the standings in the other league. My location in the standings had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with either decision.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by Tony_O on Oct 29^th, 2006, 11:39pm

My position in the standings had nothing to do with my suggestion either. What truly would be the least amount of work for Steve is to submit one line-up and let it run until week #17, thats why I suggested it. Since, he is in first place, his team must be good, so if the line-up was placed in the stongest cascading order, what would be wrog with that. I'm totally ok with Steve, running the team, but lets not continue insisting that I had an agenda or it is less work another way. Take over and will get a replacement in the off-season.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Nov 3^rd, 2006, 7:22pm

Guys, I'm up to my eyeballs with stuff to do... :P and I only got like 3 hours of sleep last night, so I'm pooped... [smiley=tired.gif] I've gone ahead and "turned over" the lineups section so yous can submit lineups for Week 9. Tony processed the starting lineups for Week 8. Thank you, man! [smiley=bow.gif] I will have Week 8's results up as soon as I can. It probably won't be tonight for you guys on the mainland. Thank you for your anticipated patience.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Nov 5^th, 2006, 1:50pm

Minor lineup note,... Jim O'Dell indicates Tom Coughlin as his head coach and instructs me to drop Brian Billick. However, he picked Coughlin up as his "bye-week" stop-gap coach in Week 7, and, then, last week, Week 8, he indicated Brian Billick as his coach, and (amidst all the bullshit) I forgot to put through the "automatic" drop of Coughlin. So, I cannot, by rights, go by his request this week to drop Billick (and keep Coughlin as his coach). I should have "automatically" dropped Coughlin last week, which is what I had to go back and do this week (i.e., his dropping Coughlin is now indicated in the Week 8 transactions). So, it's my bad... I'm sorry,... :-[ but, honestly, I need yous to "work with me" here with respect to every detail and (little) rule, especially for the duration of this (f'ed-up) season. :-/ Thank you!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Nov 21^st, 2006, 4:39am

TAKE HEED...

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=53;action=display;num=1164032427!!!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Nov 29^th, 2006, 1:36pm

There is a post up here, fellas, that you WILL want to check out... [smiley=checkin.gif] http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=53;action=display;num=1060043683;start=75. The part in the "P.S." about "getting up unofficial results for Week 12" may be of particular interest. If someone wants to do it, just go ahead and do it right here on the GBRFL2 board. And, as always, thank you for your anticipated understanding and patience! :-/ ... [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Nov 29^th, 2006, 1:47pm

on 11/29/06 at 13:36:45, StegRock wrote:

I'll get the Lineup Spreadsheet completed again and send it to you and also post it here on the boards. I trust that they've been timely and mistake-free the past two weeks?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Dec 15^th, 2006, 12:25am

Fellas, the system is all back up and running, unfortunately that wasn't the case until after kickoff/most of you already submitted your lineups by e-mail. Anyway, I have gone ahead and input everybody's lineup that I received by e-mail. So, ignore the time-stamps. Also, more importantly, each of you may want to double-check and make sure that I got your lineup right.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Dec 19^th, 2006, 5:53am

Okay,... I've got good news... We're basically up to date... through Week 14's results and Week 15's transactions! I'll have Week 15's results up as soon as I can... I do have to divert energies in a different direction for a couple days. I will turn the lineups section over in due course, though.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Dec 22^nd, 2006, 9:04am

Sorry fella's,
I didnt get my line up posted this week. My days are running together as I realized I missed the Packers and Vikes. (Thats a good thing for more than one reason)My line up would have stayed the same as it is anyway.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Dec 24^th, 2006, 10:52pm

Fellas, we are, ALAS, finally ALL caught up,... and should remain that way for the duration, [smiley=builder.gif] especially given the "extended" Week 17, which I should not have trouble staying "up-to-date" with, ;) and about which the newbies [smiley=newbie.gif] need to apprise themselves over the next few days. MC, sk, that can be done via the following thread:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=53;action=display;num=1135742397.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Dec 26^th, 2006, 8:08am

Oh Mighty Steggie Clause, Can I see an Example of a line up from Week 17 last year!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Dec 30^th, 2006, 9:39pm

on 12/26/06 at 08:08:40, steelkings wrote:

Oh Mighty Steggie Clause, Can I see an Example of a line up from Week 17 last year!

Sorry, I did not have a spare moment to get to this. I took a peek at your lineup when you submitted it, and it looked good. For future reference, though, the only thing you might not realize is that you could "mix it up" regarding the different weeks of availability of a given player. Now, for an example, go on over to the GBRFL mother league site and check out my Week 17 lineup and see what I did with Muhsin Muhammad (note that no specification means Week 17), i.e., Muhammad in the Divisional Round I value and, thus, list highly, whereas, Muhammad in Week 17, not so much so. So, Muhammad (DR) is separately and more highly listed than Muhammad (W17). Check it out! I'm sure you'll "get it"... for the future.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Dec 31^st, 2006, 2:26am

My latest post here, http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=53;action=display;num=1139821196, is worth putting in your back hip pocket for future reference. [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Jan 2^nd, 2007, 10:35pm

Just worth noting,... my latest post on the following thread:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=53;action=display;num=1060043683;start=75.

I will do the same for you guys after I get the Week 17 lineups. There's no rush, though, especially given the circumstances over here, i.e., not too much is at stake at this point. Jeff, assuming you're gonna do them, just put whatever combination of WR, DR, CC, SB, PB (nothing = W17) next to the players' names on the spreadsheet. Thank you.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Jan 3^rd, 2007, 1:18am

on 01/02/07 at 22:35:03, StegRock wrote:

I had planned on doing them tomorrow. I wasn't quite sure what to make of these lineups, but I'll give it a go and see what happens.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Jan 4^th, 2007, 1:50am

on 12/30/06 at 21:39:45, StegRock wrote:

Okay,... upon further review, sk,... your lineup was kind of screwed up. I, again, apologize for not having the time at the time to respond to your post above. It is fairly obvious what your intention was, and, as such, your Week 17 lineup will be processed like how we are processing DT's lineup up in the mother league as per my post on December 30th on the following thread:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=53;action=display;num=1060043683;start=75.

His lineup actually is bungled up way worse than yours. ::) ... [smiley=no.gif]

In any event, note this stuff, GBRFL Deucers, we are establishing precedent here!!!

Also, sk, if you want to see a really well-inputted Week 17 lineup that puts extensive use the "Extended Week 17" lineup option, check out "Mark Hahn's" in the mother league. To do so, go to:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/line-upssubmissionform.htm,

and select his name from the drop-down menu and use your GBRFL2 permissions to enter!

In short, your preferences are supposed to go from left to right if you are going to "consolidate". Of course, it was fairly obvious in your case that you wanted the "farthest game out" to be the game you use.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by The Juror on Jan 4^th, 2007, 10:03pm

Thanks for all your hard work Steg.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Jan 19^th, 2007, 2:37am

Site's up-to-date... The Champ's '06-'07 campaign is "officially" finished. He really did DOMINATE! In any event, there do remain some loose ends, i.e. games to be decided, before it's all "officially" said and done, however...

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Feb 16^th, 2007, 2:08am

Well, that's all, folks!!! All the GBRFL2 stuff for the close of the '06 season both at the league site as well as over here has been updated: e.g. the Standings page, the Champions page, who's indicated as the defending champ on the league home page as well as "the Gridiron" index page, etc.

I hope you all enjoyed '06 and are looking forward to '07!!! :)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Mar 6^th, 2007, 10:19am

Thanks for all of your work again, Steg.

Now, as we look forward to the 2007 season, have you made a decision whether to hold on to the team you inherited or will it have a new owner this coming season?

The reason I ask is that I'm raring to get some trade talks going, but I don't want to involve your team if you're not going to be the owner.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Jul 5^th, 2007, 10:24pm

Okay, alas, I have gotten around to updating the "Rosters" and "Transactions" pages for the 2007 season.

Were there any offseason trades made this year that I missed? And, what about protection spots; everybody's even with them, right? Let me know, guys!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Jul 6^th, 2007, 11:03am

on 07/05/07 at 22:24:30, StegRock wrote:

No, not everyone is even with Prot Spots... here's a thread with the list of draft picks and Prot Spots for each owner:
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=99;action=display;num=1173213626

There haven't been any offseason trades. The last trade occurred back in November.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Jul 6^th, 2007, 11:06am

Steg... I just sent an email with a GBRFL2 Info spreadsheet to your stegrock@fantasyfootballer.com email address.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by MordecaiCourage on Jul 6^th, 2007, 12:05pm

The only problem I see with the draft list is that both Ray and Rob are showing 10 picks somehow??

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Jul 6^th, 2007, 2:37pm

:o Ah, yes... that's why I post it and ask people to verify it. Ray sent his 3rd and 4th round picks to Rob in return for a Protection spot.

Rob's list is correct. Ray's list will be fixed to indicate the loss of those 2 draft picks.

Thanks MC! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Jul 6^th, 2007, 4:19pm

The "Rosters" page should be good to go now. Thanks for the help!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Aug 26^th, 2007, 12:36am

I just got done updating you all's "Rosters", "Results", "Standings" and "Transactions" pages over at the league site. The home page of the site, as well as the "History" page, has also been updated.

...

I'm just going to lay something on the line here... The donations to the site this year have been TERRIBLE. If you haven't yet made a donation this year (or ever) and/or signed on over at StegsList.com (http://www.stegslist.com), please consider doing so. It'll make me more enthusiastic about the "work" I do for this league. Here are links to follow:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/donate.htm,

and/or

http://www.stegslist.com.

Thank you for your anticipated "consideration" [smiley=bow.gif] (in both senses of the word)!

Just as a "perspectivizer",... here is a very nice private message I received lately... from a hefty donor and StegsList.com-er, mind you. It regards what goes into making things happen on "the Gridiron" and with the GBRFLeagues specifically... that users might be inclined to take for granted... I'm quoting this anonymously. If the author wants to speak up, that's up to him...

Quote:

I thought it might save you a little time (setting up some threads). It really opened my eyes to how long these things take if you want to do them right. I triple checked everything and I believe I got them set up properly.

:-/

The paradox is... the more you chip in, the MORE you realize and come to appreciate ALL that goes into this place. [smiley=zenmaster.gif]

Stop for a second and think about returning the favor,... a favor which, mind you, helps move the site forward. [smiley=thinking.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by MordecaiCourage on Aug 26^th, 2007, 1:50am

on 08/26/07 at 00:36:32, StegRock wrote:

the more you chip in, the MORE you realize and come to appreciate ALL that goes into this place. [smiley=zenmaster.gif]

[smiley=yes.gif] [smiley=bullseye.gif]

Thanks for the work you do brother. I appreciate the hard work and time put into this website.

Bar none....THIS IS MY #1 STOP IN ALL OF FANTASY FOOTBALL. I visit several sites and have never found anything else that is so interactive, creative, or just outright fun like The Gridiron is. This site is head and antlers above the rest. Please see my personal IM I sent to you. [smiley=fireman.gif] And thanks again!!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Aug 26^th, 2007, 4:49am

Thanks, MC... Just to hammer this in,... [smiley=hammer.gif] as if..., I just now collected and will be responding to your PM because I've spent the time betwixt your message and now, the last four hours to be exact, doing "behind the scenes" work,... of which you can witness the fruits if you go to "the Gridiron" index page and see how far our member count has dropped... :P Point being, I'm guessing you sent me that PM thinking I was "here here",... but really I was "not here here". I was "here... behind the scenes" hammering away. [smiley=builder.gif]

Anyway, StegsList.com (http://www.stegslist.com) info comin' atchya shortly... [smiley=onit.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Aug 31^st, 2007, 7:52am

Hi ya Gridders,
When will the line up submittion page be open for week one. Since its a short week and an Thursday NFL start, I'm looking to squeeze time to enter my starters. Some people (the N.U.G) [smiley=dunce.gif] (new useless girl)May need a little extra time to get it right.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Callie on Aug 31^st, 2007, 10:56am

on 08/31/07 at 07:52:17, steelkings wrote:

Who you callin' new? ;D

(I added the smiley to be sure you knew I was just funnin' ya.)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Aug 31^st, 2007, 10:02pm

Hey Steg... Thanks for keeping the pages updated! We appreciate the efforts.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by MordecaiCourage on Sep 1^st, 2007, 11:15pm

on 08/31/07 at 07:52:17, steelkings wrote:

Hi ya Gridders,
When will the line up submittion page be open for week one. Since its a short week and an Thursday NFL start, I'm looking to squeeze time to enter my starters.

I am going to have limited time on here come Monday evening and beyond...I really do need this thing opened up or I may miss submitting my first weeks line-up. :(

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 2^nd, 2007, 12:17am

[offtopic]"Rank does not confer privilege or give power. It imposes responsibility."

You see... The problem with that is that its logical implication, its corollary, is that the lower one is in rank the less responsibility they have. YIKES!!! Though it is indubitably bleeding upwards, that's actually the root of the problem in a "democratic" America today. We see this exemplified very much so in the "wild west" that is the cyberworld and, frankly speaking, here on "the Gridiron". If you think it through, your quote there is actually more applicable/better applied to monarchical or socialist societies. In those systems, it bleeds downwards.[/offtopic]

[smiley=zenmaster.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by MordecaiCourage on Sep 2^nd, 2007, 9:28am

on 09/02/07 at 00:17:47, StegRock wrote:

True enough Stegger [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=bow.gif]

But, I'm not actually trying to delve so deeply into societal issues as I am stating that as a man of some rank myself, I take this as my personal M.O. This saying is on my locker at work...I look at it often and it reminds me that I am responsible for 8 or 9 other guys here at work. And not just as a man who gives direction because he is in charge, but a man who shows direction by example...and humbly at that!

.......so , let me put it this way, and I do have this on the HIGHEST AUTHORITY [smiley=priest.gif]

........For everyone to whom much is given, of him shall much be required; and of him to whom men entrust much, they will require and demand all the more. Luke 12:48 AMP

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 2^nd, 2007, 10:10pm

The lineups submission section has been turned over. Lineups for Week 1 may now be submitted. They are due by the kickoff of Thursday night's game. Have fun!!!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by MordecaiCourage on Sep 2^nd, 2007, 10:29pm

on 09/02/07 at 22:10:37, StegRock wrote:

The lineups submission section has been turned over. Lineups for Week 1 may now be submitted. They are due by the kickoff of Thursday night's game. Have fun!!!

Thanks Steg!! :) This league is a blast.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Tony_O on Sep 2^nd, 2007, 11:07pm

on 09/02/07 at 22:29:29, MordecaiCourage wrote:

Thanks Steg!! :) This league is a blast.

[smiley=bj.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 2^nd, 2007, 11:17pm

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 6^th, 2007, 4:37am

REMEMBER lineups, free-agent requests, etc. are due by kickoff TONIGHT!!! I will almost definitely NOT be in a position to monitor things and turn the system over right at kickoff (I'll be at work). So, any lineups submitted after 8:30 WILL BE DISCARDED!!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Chumpzilla on Sep 6^th, 2007, 2:00pm

Hey guys! League question. If I trade someone one of my FA picks for the week, are they then allowed to make 3 moves or is there a limit of two per week? ?.?.?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 6^th, 2007, 3:34pm

on 09/06/07 at 14:00:28, Chumpzilla wrote:

Hey guys! League question. If I trade someone one of my FA picks for the week, are they then allowed to make 3 moves or is there a limit of two per week?

That person is then allowed to make 3 moves, and you, only one,... and so on...

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Chumpzilla on Sep 6^th, 2007, 3:50pm

Thanks Steg! [smiley=twothumbsup.gif] I just wanted to be sure!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Sep 6^th, 2007, 9:54pm

Hey Steg... how are we doing scoring this year? Should I prepare the spreadsheet on Mondays again?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 6^th, 2007, 11:25pm

I've turned over the lineups section so you can now view others' lineups (and not submit your own). I unfortunately will not be getting around to transactions until the weekend. But, you can see the free-agent requests on everybody's lineups pages and deduce things yourself if you are anxious. Thank you for your anticipated patience. [smiley=bow.gif]

...

Yes, Jeff, please do do that, at least until further notice, brother. Thanks! [smiley=worship.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Chumpzilla on Sep 6^th, 2007, 11:46pm

Thank you Steg! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Callie on Sep 7^th, 2007, 12:22am

Thanks, Steg!

Guys, I'm learning this system this season. Different from what I've played before, and looks like a lot of fun. I'm moving slow in the beginning to figure it all out and not be a royal pain. But if I do something wrong (like not trading you my studs until the price goes up), all help is appreciated.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Sep 7^th, 2007, 7:34am

on 09/07/07 at 00:22:39, Callie wrote:

Did you have any specific questions? Did the lineup submission go smoothly?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Callie on Sep 7^th, 2007, 12:26pm

on 09/07/07 at 07:34:41, Philly wrote:

Did you have any specific questions? Did the lineup submission go smoothly?

I didn't hear from anyone, so it must have been right. ;D

So far I've picked up any additional info I needed to know just by reading the threads. Thanks for asking!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Sep 7^th, 2007, 12:40pm

on 09/07/07 at 12:26:19, Callie wrote:

I didn't hear from anyone, so it must have been right. ;D

So far I've picked up any additional info I needed to know just by reading the threads. Thanks for asking!

I checked it out and it looked fine to me. Now just wait until you try to interpret the spreadsheet with the results! :o ;)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Callie on Sep 7^th, 2007, 1:50pm

I should have mentioned that I also PM'd Steve with a couple of questions, and he answered them for me. Thanks again, Steg.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Sep 8^th, 2007, 8:14am

on 09/06/07 at 23:25:45, StegRock wrote:

Yes, Jeff, please do do that, at least until further notice, brother. Thanks! [smiley=worship.gif]

Quick questions for you Steg.

When processing FA requests, what order do I use? Is it (1) the final standings for 2006-2007 or (2) the draft order including lottery results?

Just to confirm... JP Losman should appear as J.(space)P.(no space), right?

Finally... what to do with Steve Smith, Steve Smith, Adrian Peterson, and Adrian Peterson?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 8^th, 2007, 6:49pm

on 09/08/07 at 08:14:59, Philly wrote:

When processing FA requests, what order do I use? Is it (1) the final standings for 2006-2007 or (2) the draft order including lottery results?

The first one (1).

Quote:

Just to confirm... JP Losman should appear as J.(space)P.(no space), right?

I think so... We'll know better after this week. If it isn't, I'll let you know.

Quote:

Finally... what to do with Steve Smith, Steve Smith, Adrian Peterson, and Adrian Peterson?

Make the "lesser" ones "#2's", e.g.: Steve Smith (receiver for the Giants) would be Steve Smith2. This is what I've been doing for QB Alex Smith and TE Alex Smith. The latter is Alex Smith2.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Sep 8^th, 2007, 10:16pm

on 09/08/07 at 18:49:27, StegRock wrote:

The first one (1).

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Quote:

I think so... We'll know better after this week. If it isn't, I'll let you know.

Cool... I checked last year's, and that's how it was handled. I'll plan on doing the same unless I hear otherwise.

Quote:

Make the "lesser" ones "#2's", e.g.: Steve Smith (receiver for the Giants) would be Steve Smith2. This is what I've been doing for QB Alex Smith and TE Alex Smith. The latter is Alex Smith2.

Alrighty then... (Don't tell me someone has actually been starting Alex Smith2... ? :o [smiley=yikes.gif])
[smiley=flagged.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 9^th, 2007, 1:51am

on 09/08/07 at 22:16:22, Philly wrote:

(Don't tell me someone has actually been starting Alex Smith2... ? :o [smiley=yikes.gif])
[smiley=flagged.gif]

No, but that's not what matters. What we have to accommodate is the "vlookup" function that gets the stats from the "raw" stats sheet. (And, in fact, contrary to what I said and suggested above, I think, in the rush of the moment last year, I actually made QB Alex Smith "Alex Smith2". But, anyway...)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 9^th, 2007, 7:42am

Jeff, I don't know whether you already sent me the spreadsheet and I deleted it by mistake or you didn't yet send it to me...??? [smiley=idontknow.gif] But, I went ahead and processed the free-agents and updated the "Transactions" and "Rosters" pages over at the league site. Check it on out... [smiley=checkin.gif] Jeff,... double-check it on out... ;)

[offtopic]Funny thing,... I was the ONLY guy in either of the GBRFLeagues to go after QB Chris Redman. This surprised me. I'm either "ahead of my time" or "behind the times" here. I don't know which... [smiley=stilldunno.gif] I guess only time will tell...[/offtopic]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Sep 9^th, 2007, 9:19am

on 09/09/07 at 07:42:23, StegRock wrote:

Steve... I didn't send the spreadsheet yet because I don't know who garnered stats and such for the weekend's (and the MNF) games. I'll send it Tuesday morning. I didn't know you expected it before the games had completed...?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 9^th, 2007, 9:25am

... Just in terms of free-agency.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 13^th, 2007, 4:27am

Guys and Gal,... I'm realizing how working full-time+, i.e. two jobs, and doing this stuff is a ROUGH row to hoe. In any case,... the results for Week 1 won't be up until Friday (you all's time). My question,... are you all ready to have the lineups section turned over so that you can input your Week 2 lineups???

Thank you for your patience. [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Sep 13^th, 2007, 7:58am

on 09/13/07 at 04:27:17, StegRock wrote:

The sooner the better! I will be offline completely from 3:00 PM Eastern until sometime Saturday (at the earliest), so I'd love to see it up today.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by captainpurple on Sep 13^th, 2007, 12:02pm

I'd also like to see it turned over. I've got a busy family weekend planned and will have a tough time getting to the ol' 'puter to input the roster.

Thanks Steg!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by PrimeTime on Sep 13^th, 2007, 5:59pm

on 09/13/07 at 04:27:17, StegRock wrote:

I'm ok whenever you turn it over. Most likely I will submit it Saturday night or Sunday morning.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Callie on Sep 13^th, 2007, 6:14pm

Whatever works this week is just fine with me.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Sep 15^th, 2007, 6:53pm

Believe me when I sincerly say I understand the time spent to produce and maintain this league. I thank all those in the background. I know that I wouldnt have the time to do it. With that said, would it be possible, or easier to list the winners and losers on a thread. It could come into play for future pick up or trades.

Again, Thanks to those giving the time!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 15^th, 2007, 9:27pm

Week 1's results are UP. The "Results", "Standings" and "Schedule" pages have been updated. A couple notes...

First, I'm doing the spreadsheet differently this year, both leagues together in one shot. This streamlines it for me. But, as such, the Excel spreadsheet is HUGE, basically double the size it had been. SO, opening it, at least the first time, in your browser can be hairy. You may be better off just downloading it and opening it on your computer. BUT, it seems like once you've opened it in your browser once, it's good to go after that. [smiley=idontknow.gif] At least, that's what happened to me.

Second, I now understand the "proactive" psychology behind T.O.'s lead-in paragraph of his Cowboys FF-specific Team Report a little better now. ;) ... ;D

In any event, sorry for the excessive delay here this week. :-[ I over-extended myself at Kaplan early this week (had signed up to do some seminars before I had the full-time job), and I couldn't get ahead of the eight-ball all week. [smiley=behindball.gif] My schedule starts normalizing starting this upcoming week, so I'm thinking so will things here. In any case, thank you all for your understanding and patience. [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 15^th, 2007, 9:38pm

on 09/08/07 at 08:14:59, Philly wrote:

Just to confirm... JP Losman should appear as J.(space)P.(no space), right?

Jeff, as it turns out, no... It should read J.(NO space)P. Losman, i.e. "J.P. Losman". Same for "T.J." Houshmandzadeh, et al.

Also, TQStats uses "Cadillac" Williams, not ~~Carnell~~.

Other than that,... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Thanks, bro! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Sep 15^th, 2007, 9:55pm

on 09/15/07 at 21:38:11, StegRock wrote:

Will take note for week 2 and beyond... thanks for the heads-up!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Sep 17^th, 2007, 7:13am

A question for the generals:

How do I know who picked up who as free agents? The first week I just had a dumb ass moment and tried to aquire one of Callies WR's. This week when putting in my roster I really wasnt sure I wasnt doing it again because I wasnt sure who was picked up the week before. Thoughts?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Sep 17^th, 2007, 8:11am

on 09/17/07 at 07:13:41, steelkings wrote:

You can look at the rosters page and that will show the most current roster (as soon as Steg indicates that it has been updated) and you can also look at the transactions page (it will show what happened each week).

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 19^th, 2007, 3:57am

Week 2's stuff's UP...

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Sep 19^th, 2007, 7:38am

on 09/19/07 at 03:57:07, StegRock wrote:

Week 2's stuff's UP...

Thank you, sir, for your prompt attention to this matter! [smiley=clap.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Sep 19^th, 2007, 8:05am

Hey Steve,

Could you explain something to me? I looked at the standings page and got confused. I was under the impression (perhaps false impression) that the first tie-breaker in the standings for teams with identical records was the points differential. The list currently looks like this:

Team	Wins	Losses	Points Differential	Games Behind
Triman Telegoals	3	1	+75	-
Fighting Chiapets	3	1	+111	0
Smack Down Clowns	3	1	-6	0
Fury of the Norsemen	3	1	+63	0
Silver & Gold	3	1	+109	0
Hudson Hawks	2	2	-72	1
Amish Jihad	1	3	-21	2
Fat Chick Thrillers	1	3	-94	2
Fantasy Phenoms	1	3	-79	2
The Dogs of War	0	4	-86	3

Is there a H2H tie-breaker that is being applied before points differential?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Sep 19^th, 2007, 10:37am

I found this in the archives

on 12/20/05 at 02:23:56, StegRock wrote:

In case you didn't know/forgot/I didn't tell you all, (end-of-season) ties in the standings are broken as follows:

1) Head-to-head record (within a group if that is the case) (this is how I won it last year);
2) Points Differential;
3) (It NEVER comes to this) Total Points Scored for the season.
4) (It DEFINITELY will NOT come down to this) Total Yardage for the season.

Note to Jeff* Ray does not need the help ;D

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 19^th, 2007, 4:47pm

on 09/19/07 at 08:05:20, Philly wrote:

Is there a H2H tie-breaker that is being applied before points differential?

Those tie-breaks quoted above in sk's post apply to weekly standings as well.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Sep 28^th, 2007, 9:28am

In week 3 the Telegoals were credited with Adrian Petersons (CHI) rushing and recieving stats. I have the Peterson from the VIkings. His Day was much better. I am afraid this will change the outcome of the game between Jeff and I. Alot of points are going to go the other way. As Peterson (Minn) also had 48 in the recieving category. I dont know if the other Peterson was started or not, but it could effect the outcome of anouther game as well.

Thanks
SK

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Sep 28^th, 2007, 2:07pm

Help me out here, Steg. I thought you said that the more fantasy IRRELEVANT player with the same name would be Adrian Peterson2. I assumed that the AP on the Bears would be the less relevant of the two, so I didn't assign a number to the end of Minnesota Peterson's name.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Sep 28^th, 2007, 3:07pm

That was just me. You're right, Jeff. I did the opposite of what I told you I would do. Then, again, I didn't really think that all the way through when I made that suggestion. That's what happens when things aren't thought through (thoughtfully... and mindfully). When I hit this wacky "two guys with the same name" stuff, I usually just do whatever's easiest on the fly. Since Chicago's Adrian Peterson is the older player and I already had him in as just "Adrian Peterson", I made the Vike's Adrian Peterson "Adrian Peterson2" on the fly. While I compensated for this on the mother league side of the sheet, I just biffed and forgot to on the deuce league side. Sorry. :-[ It'll be fixed by, at least, tonight, if not right away if I can make the time here at work.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Oct 3^rd, 2007, 6:23pm

Jeff, I was wondering... Have you sent me the GBRFL2 lineups for the week yet? I am at work, but have a little time to burn today to work on this stuff. I was wondering, when I go home, will I be receiving the GBRFL2 lineups from you...??? I want to have the results for this week all hammered out tonight. [smiley=builder.gif] I've got some other important personal stuff on my plate this week and want to get this off it. :)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Oct 4^th, 2007, 6:41am

on 09/28/07 at 09:28:20, steelkings wrote:

That darn Adrian Peterson strikes again in week 4!

Please and thank you!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Oct 4^th, 2007, 7:00am

Sorry 'bout that... I happen to still be awake, though. It's already fixed. [smiley=wizard.gif] No HUGE changes, but we've GOT TO get it right. Way to stay on top of it, sk. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Jeff, note,... until further notice, Adrian Peterson of the Vikings is "Adrian Peterson2". Thank you.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 14^th, 2007, 9:41pm

Ummm..Keith picked up Lemon and I think he is on Todd's roster already ?.?.?

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Oct 16^th, 2007, 8:27am

And I started him ;D [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Oct 16^th, 2007, 12:50pm

Everyone... please check the results closely this week (6)... between all the byes and injuries, there were a lot of empty roster spots.

Thanks! :)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Oct 18^th, 2007, 5:52am

Guys and gal,... I have had a BRUTAL week. Nothing bad,... just INSANELY busy. A CRAZY Monday and Tuesday in the life of Steg was followed by a 13 1/2-hour workday today. [smiley=yikes.gif] Suffice it to say that FF has had to take a backseat here this week. Results will probably not be posted until, at best, Friday night (MY time that is). As such, I've gone ahead and turned over the lineups section. Thank you for your anticipated understanding and patience. I'm now going to bed.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Oct 21^st, 2007, 9:00am

To those who rarely sleep. You know, the dude that has nothing to do but service the GBRFL2.

The Telegoals are feeling slighted in the standings.

Ps. Thanks for your hard work every week!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Oct 23^rd, 2007, 8:29am

In my last line up submittion I had asked for two Free Agents. One I was credited for. The other I was not. Nobody else looks like they were awarded that player. Am I only allowed one?

PS. The Standings are still posted incorrectly!

Much thanks!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Oct 25^th, 2007, 2:27pm

Guys,... PLEASE bare with me again here this week. I'm just having a rough time popping out of this "crazy-busy" nightmare. [smiley=Freddie.gif] In any case, the lineups section has been turned over for the week. So, you can submit your lineups for Week 8 at any time. I'm hoping to have Week 7's results up for you guys (back on the mainland) no later than Saturday morning, i.e. Friday night my time. [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] Once again, thank you all for your anticipated understanding and patience. [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Nov 7^th, 2007, 8:35am

A Question for the boss.

Why cant I, or how do I view my opponents line up before game results are posted? Its hard to figure games before the results are made official without knowing my opponents line up. It could be Im jis not pushin the right buttons. Therefore Todd = [smiley=dunce.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by captainpurple on Nov 7^th, 2007, 10:42am

You can view the submitted lineups as soon as Steg locks them. It's a bit tricky, in that clicking on the names on the left pane won't get you there. Those names seem to take you to the "I want to submit my lineup" section. To view another owners submitted lineup, choose their name from the dropdown list in the main frame, then enter your user/pass and you should get there.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Nov 7^th, 2007, 2:02pm

on 11/07/07 at 10:42:07, captainpurple wrote:

To view another owners submitted lineup, choose their name from the dropdown list in the main frame, then enter your user/pass and you should get there...

...right now still as I haven't yet turned the lineups submission section back over to "submit" mode (because I haven't yet posted the results for the week).

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Nov 7^th, 2007, 5:10pm

I got it. I was pulling from the wrong spot as Rob figured out.

Thanks for the help! :)

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Nov 15^th, 2007, 4:24pm

Guys and gal, please bear with me here this week... I'm having a rough one,... battling long hours, stress and insomnia. I have turned the lineups submission section over, though, so yous can submit your Week 11 lineups. I apologize in advance for the delay :-/ and appreciate your anticipated understanding and patience. [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Nov 17^th, 2007, 7:38pm

Gbrfler's,
I'm really struggling with my internet connection. I think I submitted my line up, But just in case.
In order posted

QB's
Palmer
Roethlisberger

RB's
Parker
James
Dunn (Via trade)
Davenport

WR's
Ward
Driver
Clark
Branch
Coles

K'er
Vinatieri

D-fen
The Pittsburgh Steelers

Same for both games

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by MordecaiCourage on Nov 17^th, 2007, 8:01pm

Got it steel!!!!

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Nov 17^th, 2007, 11:41pm

sk's lineup went through. At a glance, the two (the official one and the one he posted here) look the same, but, ultimately, that one is his "official" lineup [which could matter if/when it comes (down) to backups]. Just doing my best to keep things straight.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Nov 20^th, 2007, 3:04am

Fellas and female, in light of the extremely early Thanksgiving start to Week 12 and the fact that I can almost guarantee that I will not have Week 11's results posted before the kickoff of, at least, the first Thanksgiving day game, I have already gone ahead and turned over the lineup submissions section so you guys can go ahead and submit your Week 12 lineups. Regarding Week 11's results, I'll probably work on them for a good portion of Thanksgiving day. Hopefully I'll have them up that night for yous. Okay, go and get them there lineups in... [smiley=onit.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by Philly on Nov 20^th, 2007, 8:07am

Hey Steg... just wanted to let you know that, because the lineups have been turned over, I am unable to view the week 11 submissions in order to complete the spreadsheet for you.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Nov 22^nd, 2007, 4:49pm

I've posted Week 11's results and standings and processed Week 12's transactions and updated the rosters for the mother league. When Jeff gets around to processing and sending me you all's Week 11 lineups, I will get on the GBRFL2 stuff. Thank you for your anticipated patience here on Thanksgiving day.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Nov 22^nd, 2007, 5:52pm

FIRST YOU [smiley=turkey.gif] [smiley=wagingwar.gif]
THEN YOU [smiley=flamewar.gif] [smiley=turkey.gif]
THEN YOU [smiley=eatme.gif] THE [smiley=turkey.gif].

THEN YOU [smiley=caughtonthecan.gif] .
IF YOUR POOR OR DISINTERESTED, THEN YOU [smiley=chicken.gif].

Thanks STEG

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Nov 23^rd, 2007, 2:44am

Jeff, when you go to do the lineups, make sure you remember to scroll down and line up the dates right for Week 11 and Week 12, respectively. I know you're not an idiot, but this is a mistake I myself have made when in this situation. I'm just giving you a heads up. :)

[offtopic]By the way, sk, in case you didn't notice on the "Transactions" page for the mother league this week, I took a page out of your book. I TOO like "that guy" going into next year. I'm thinking, alas, my boy, who I've shown much off- and pre-season love for over the past few years, Rudi, hath hit the wall.[/offtopic]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Nov 23^rd, 2007, 8:48am

on 11/23/07 at 02:44:32, StegRock wrote:

[offtopic]By the way, sk, in case you didn't notice on the "Transactions" page for the mother league this week, I took a page out of your book. I TOO like "that guy" going into next year. I'm thinking, alas, my boy, who I've shown much off- and pre-season love for over the past few years, Rudi, hath hit the wall.[/offtopic]

I was starting to feel bad about the pick up. I thought I went too early. You know, I had him ranked higher than Lynch visa via ability. Lynch was only better because he had no one playing in front of him. Irons would have definatly gone in the first 4 players taken in last years Duece draft had he not hurt himself. The bad news about Irons is I have heard him talk. They asked him how camp was going and he used the bleeped out term "Mu Folk" 3 time in one response. He is a ghetto guy playing for the Bengals. The good news is, even with all that free time on his hands, he suprisingly hasn't been arrested.........YET!

[offtopic]More impressive than me picking up Irons [smiley=pumped.gif], is you trading for Roethlisberger and weakening your runningbacks by giving up MDJ, then finding a way to fix that by picking up Irons. In a sense that works out to be Roethlisberger, Witten, Irons and a 2nd round draft pick for MDJ. That!, Is the work of a Steely-Eyed Fantasy Guy.[smiley=thumbsup.gif][/offtopic]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Nov 23^rd, 2007, 3:15pm

[offtopic]Well, sk, I don't know how much Irons will make up for the departing MJD. He's ultimately a (long) shot in the dark (and, no, I don't mean this... [smiley=pudwhacker.gif] ... [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif]). Getting Andre Hall to back up Selvin Young will also help.

In any event, though, I gather you (too) are not a believer when it comes to Deion Branch and don't think Boller has a snowball's [smiley=snowman.gif] chance in hell [smiley=evil.gif] of being the future in Baltimore or, even if he does, that doesn't mean much. This is especially in light of the fact that tight-ends, even of Witten's caliber, are far from "at a premium" in this format. I'm guessing you might also be just a little skeptical of MJD. Am I reading you right?[/offtopic]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Nov 23^rd, 2007, 4:47pm

You are reading me like I read this

http://www.pinkfashions.com/6347/unde_003.gif

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Nov 27^th, 2007, 12:25pm

on 11/20/07 at 03:04:32, StegRock wrote:

Ditto... for this week... minus the Thanksgiving part.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Dec 4^th, 2007, 1:32pm

on 11/27/07 at 12:25:41, StegRock wrote:

Ditto... for this week... minus the Thanksgiving part.

This'll probably be the way it is from here on out with these weeks with Thursday night games. Thank you for your anticipated understanding and patience. [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by PrimeTime on Dec 6^th, 2007, 10:38pm

Thanks Steg!

BTW, I hate Thursday night games.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Apr 20^th, 2008, 2:04am

Guys and gal, what I discuss in my latest post on the following thread is no small issue:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=56;action=display;num=1181325562.

Please "respond"... if you know what I mean, i.e. not necessarily here...

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by steelkings on Apr 26^th, 2008, 8:33pm

Is the best response done with a credit card?

[offtopic] Seriously. I'm going to open a new league myself. There will be a small maintenance fee required to operate it. I'm not sure if I will absorb it myself or ask for donations....I do know its around 80 bucks for the season. [/offtopic]

Purhaps I am off base with the topic.

Title: Re: GBRFL2 Web Site & General Announcements...
Post by StegRock on Apr 26^th, 2008, 10:34pm

Thanks for the response, sk. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] The timing of it... :-/ so-so in all honesty... At this point, though I haven't followed it up thoroughly, I think, as I wrote up on that thread "between the 20's", that Double-D from the mother league has come up with a comparable option both in terms of the stats package and price. It will cost only $60.00 more for the season, that is, if I want exactly what I had with TQStats. At any rate, in the meantime, researching and coming up with more options just in case surely wouldn't hurt.

As far as [smiley=money.gif].[smiley=twocents.gif] goes, it's the same old story... To get this place anywhere will take money,... period. Meanwhile, expenses continue to creep up, like as will probably be the case with the new stats service. "Bottom line", in light of all the new circumstances that are on the VERY near horizon in the Steggie household (mainly, [smiley=newbie.gif]), which will cause my expenses to "CREEP" up, until we can muster up a good, say, three thou in a given year, at this point, we're probably stuck. In fact, there are some feature cutbacks coming. :-/

As for the league, sk, I'm guessing you are talking about this http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=56;action=display;num=1193607030, right? Good [smiley=shammy.gif] luck getting it together. If you do and if you want it, you'll definitely have a league board waiting for you here. Just keep me abreast (or two [smiley=boobies.gif] ... ;)) of how it's going and when you would want your board. :)