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GBRFL Web Site, League Fee & General Announcements
« on: Aug 4th, 2003, 8:34pm » |
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Fellas,
The "2003 Draft" page is up and available via our "Transactions" page, which has been updated as has the "Rosters" page. ENJOY! 
Your Commish... and YOUR CHAMPION,
Steve Steg 
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Re: Site's updated & League fee...
« Reply #5 on: Apr 29th, 2004, 4:53pm » |
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Fellas, the 2004 "Rosters" and "Transactions" pages are up and all according updates have been made. Enjoy!
As this is the case, Joe, if you want to contact me regarding the nebulousness of the movement of "late" picks in trades, soon would be the time. If you could send me a hard copy of something by e-mail, as I have suggested before, that would be most helpful. Actually, you could make a post regarding it all right here and maybe others can respond and help elucidate the situation(s). I know you have told me about some stickiness regarding Steve's late picks. Steve actually had discussed "a situation" with me. It, I believe, has been solved. You will notice on the "2003 Transactions" page next to picks moved in a trade between Steve and DT in parenthesis "TBA" (To Be Announced). Ultimately, he acquired the 5th Round pick to give to Dave later in the season. Anyway, let's hammer things out!
In any event, we are going to have to make a practice of being more explicit with our moving late-round picks in trades.
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Now, on to the "League Fee" for 2004... It is going to (have to) be upped, bottom line. It was $25 way back when for a number of years through 1998. It cost me (and Rob at the time for a couple years there) money to run the league. In 1999, with the launching of the GBRFL web site, I bumped it to $40, a more reasonable fee in light of expenses. I actually could pocket a few bucks there for a couple years. But, since then, I've stepped it up. Over the last three years, the plaques, as you guys know, have undergone major and appropriate upgrades (before there used to be virtually no difference between the size and look of a Championship plaque and a 3rd Place plaque); we have even added a plaque, "GM/Coach of the Year"; I have given out T-shirts; etc. All the while, the league fee has stayed the same and any pocket cash I was able to garner has disappeared (and become more "red" for me).
Also, there has to be consideration for me as a person essentially volunteering his efforts to put forth a nice "product", loosely speaking. Between 1998, when I started to take back over administration of the league, and 2003, I have been either living and working in Korea where I had very flexible schedules or in New Jersey during these flexible, "transition" periods, and running the league was not too much sweat off my back. THAT is about to change. Heading to grad school this August, my time will be MUCH more limited starting this upcoming season. My time will become more "valuable" (to me), so to speak.
Given all this, I think a league fee of $50 is more proper to the situation. I am considering gradually moving it that way, to $45 for '04 and then $50 for '05. I don't know, but it will be upped. If this is something to which you are not amenable, please let me, us know a.s.a.p., so we can go about finding a replacement for you. Bottom line, I guess what I am saying is "that is my price".  Thank you for your anticipatively understanding! 
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Re: Site's updated & League fee...
« Reply #7 on: Jun 2nd, 2004, 3:46pm » |
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on Apr 29th, 2004, 4:53pm, StegRock wrote:Now, on to the "League Fee" for 2004... It is going to (have to) be upped, bottom line. It was $25 way back when for a number of years through 1998. It cost me (and Rob at the time for a couple years there) money to run the league. In 1999, with the launching of the GBRFL web site, I bumped it to $40, a more reasonable fee in light of expenses. I actually could pocket a few bucks there for a couple years. But, since then, I've stepped it up. Over the last three years, the plaques, as you guys know, have undergone major and appropriate upgrades (before there used to be virtually no difference between the size and look of a Championship plaque and a 3rd Place plaque); we have even added a plaque, "GM/Coach of the Year"; I have given out T-shirts; etc. All the while, the league fee has stayed the same and any pocket cash I was able to garner has disappeared (and become more "red" for me).
Also, there has to be consideration for me as a person essentially volunteering his efforts to put forth a nice "product", loosely speaking. Between 1998, when I started to take back over administration of the league, and 2003, I have been either living and working in Korea where I had very flexible schedules or in New Jersey during these flexible, "transition" periods, and running the league was not too much sweat off my back. THAT is about to change. Heading to grad school this August, my time will be MUCH more limited starting this upcoming season. My time will become more "valuable" (to me), so to speak.
Given all this, I think a league fee of $50 is more proper to the situation. I am considering gradually moving it that way, to $45 for '04 and then $50 for '05. I don't know, but it will be upped. If this is something to which you are not amenable, please let me, us know a.s.a.p., so we can go about finding a replacement for you. Bottom line, I guess what I am saying is "that is my price". Thank you for your anticipatively understanding! |
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Guys, by the way, I have decided to just go with $50 starting this year. So, that's that for that. If, for some reason, that's too steep for you, please let me/us know a.s.a.p. so we can go about getting a replacement. I don't foresee its being a problem for any of you, though. 
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Re: Site's updated & League fee...
« Reply #9 on: Aug 24th, 2004, 12:28am » |
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Fellas, the "2004 Draft" page is up, available via the "Transactions" page (click the "Draft" button), which has been updated along with the "Rosters" page. Visit the site and check it all out.
Also, for those who haven't paid, the $50 league fee is due by Week 4.
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Re: GBRFL Web Site
« Reply #11 on: Oct 7th, 2004, 12:18pm » |
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Fellas, especially those of you who were experiencing difficulties opening the GBRFL or GBRFL2 league home pages (i.e., they were taking a looooong time to open or not all the applets were downloading), you should now find the league home/index pages MUCH faster to open and error-free. I realized yesterday evening that something was in fact going very awry with those pages; (with time I don't have) I figured it out and took the time (out of everything else) to fix it (because of, frankly speaking, all the very severe implications of what was going on that could have been detrimental to the stability of the whole domain, actually all of my domains). I hope ALL you guys now enjoy navigating to the league home pages (and no longer have to go around them (if you still experience problems, it is on your end, for sure, now, i.e. connection speed, computer speed, browser settings, etc., etc.)). Anyway,...
GBRFL - http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl/
GBRFL2 - http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl2/
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Re: GBRFL Web Site
« Reply #12 on: Oct 14th, 2004, 8:09pm » |
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Guys, I am going to turnover the system over at the league site now so you can submit your lineups for Week 6. However, the Week 5 results will NOT be posted yet. I have a paper due tomorrow. It's a short one and I am over halfway done with the writing, so it shouldn't be much longer. If I get it done by a reasonable time tonight, like say 1:00 a.m., which I think, no pray, will happen, I may come back over to the computer lab here and run the stats and post Week 5's results. I am heading up to Jersey tomorrow afternoon for the weekend, so if Week 5's stuff is not up tonight it won't be until tomorrow night late or even Saturday. Thanks for your anticipated understanding, patience and according cooperation.
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Re: GBRFL Web Site
« Reply #13 on: Dec 18th, 2004, 8:02pm » |
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Guys, I've been workin' it...  ...  I have made a behind-the-scenes upgrade to the lineup submissions section of the league site. It affects how you go about viewing another's lineup when the system has been set for viewing all lineups and disabling lineup submissions (this has already been done for this week). You will now have to make the extra steps of inputting your permissions every time you want to see someone else's lineup. It is a small hassle, but one WELL worth it. None of you probably noticed or would even be looking for ways to cheat, BUT if you were savy enough and looked hard enough, there has been a way to cheat, though not in a very big way, ALL ALONG. I myself with all the work I do on and all the knowledge I have of this stuff just found this hole this season (I saw it about 10 weeks ago). I am always looking for ways to upgrade things. This probably didn't matter for our current, small-scale purposes. But, I am always working on things with an eye toward the future. There is a chance I may run pay GBRFL-style leagues someday, and any baby steps that can be proactively made beforehand only help in the long-run.  Anyway, enjoy the NEW uncrackable, cheater-combatting system, boyz!
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Re: GBRFL Web Site
« Reply #16 on: Jan 4th, 2005, 1:55pm » |
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on Dec 18th, 2004, 8:02pm, StegRock wrote:| Guys, I've been workin' it... ... I have made a behind-the-scenes upgrade to the lineup submissions section of the league site. It affects how you go about viewing another's lineup when the system has been set for viewing all lineups and disabling lineup submissions (this has already been done for this week). You will now have to make the extra steps of inputting your permissions every time you want to see someone else's lineup. It is a small hassle, but one WELL worth it. None of you probably noticed or would even be looking for ways to cheat, BUT if you were savy enough and looked hard enough, there has been a way to cheat, though not in a very big way, ALL ALONG. I myself with all the work I do on and all the knowledge I have of this stuff just found this hole this season (I saw it about 10 weeks ago). I am always looking for ways to upgrade things. This probably didn't matter for our current, small-scale purposes. But, I am always working on things with an eye toward the future. There is a chance I may run pay GBRFL-style leagues someday, and any baby steps that can be proactively made beforehand only help in the long-run. Anyway, enjoy the NEW uncrackable, cheater-combatting system, boyz! |
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THanks for taking the time to make the site better. All the effort you put in behind the scenes is appreciated, especially given your busy circumstances and computer availability.
I do have one minor request. After viewing the line ups of other players, if you hit the 'back' button, it takes you to the password page. Can you have that take you back to the page that allows you to choose another players line up?
Thanks again!
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Re: GBRFL Web Site
« Reply #17 on: Jan 4th, 2005, 2:09pm » |
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on Jan 4th, 2005, 1:55pm, DirkDiggler wrote:| I do have one minor request. After viewing the line ups of other players, if you hit the 'back' button, it takes you to the password page. Can you have that take you back to the page that allows you to choose another players line up? |
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You're welcome, brother!
As for your request, Steve, no, unfortunately, I cannot. That's actually part of the key to solving the problem/plugging the hole I was referring to. Sorry, bro.
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Re: GBRFL Web Site
« Reply #18 on: Jun 12th, 2005, 8:07pm » |
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Fellas, the "Rosters" and "Transactions" pages over at the GBRFL web site have been updated.
There is BIG news connected to this... There were two mistakes made by dudes making trades... They both occurred in Week 12 and involved Dave Trout (sorry, bro  ). In the worse of the two instances, DT traded a 4th round pick to Dave Bohrer. Problem... he did NOT have a 4th round pick to trade. UH-OH!!! He had already traded it earlier in the season. This is a pretty big error. Bottom line, though, as commissioner, the way I look at it, if you give your figurative hand shake on and consummate a deal without being absolutely certain that you're getting what you expect, that's on you and you're leaving it in the hands of the commissioner to do the best he can to rectify a ready-made mess after the fact. There is just no way for it to be expeditiously dealt with democratically, for us to expect the two parties to be able to disabuse the situation with absolute fairness and objectivity and in a timely manner (letting only the parties involved renegotiate such deals ex post facto really opens the door to all kinds of potential "ugliness") or for the parties involved to expect the rest of the league to think it fair for them alone to fix it as such situations affect the whole league, not just the teams involved, and the trade cannot be simply voided. Unfortunately we cannot roll back the clock and go back and undo it. There is knowledge now that should NOT have existed then that would have an inappropriate ripple effect on any renegotiations or democratic debates. The best and most equitable thing that can be done is to call on the commissioner to mirror the deal that was made as best as possible. That is what I did. The other mistake is a much smaller deal. Joe Parsons, in the courtesy part of a trade where you give your current last pick to the dude you are trading with as a courtesy for an uneven trade with respect to picks, gave Dave Trout a 9th round pick he did not have. I just adjusted the trade to Joe's actual last pick. As such, Dave got a teeny, tiny bump up. In any event, you can check the 2004 "Transactions" page to see exactly how I went about fixing these trades.
Also, using Joe Parsons's draft-pick spreadsheet, I went ahead and figured out how the draft picks are distributed based on trades made. It works out perfectly. Everybody's got the right number of picks based on their number of protection spots. I have made this spreadsheet available on-line at:
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl/GBRFL2005draftpicksgrid.xls.
Over and out! 
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Re: GBRFL Web Site
« Reply #19 on: Jun 13th, 2005, 9:25pm » |
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Quote:| if you give your figurative hand shake on and consummate a deal without being absolutely certain that you're getting what you expect, that's on you |
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As a general rule, I don't agree with that buyer beware philosophy. You should know what you have when you offer a deal, otherwise you invite"shark" practices of offering something you don't have knowing the taker will suffer. Of course, in a perfect world everyone will check, but we know many deals (like the one in question) are done at the 11th hour (as I was walking the dog as I recall). So, I think the benefit should go to the person getting the pick that doesn't exist.
But in this case Trout doesn't even have a 3rd round pick and I don't believe he has another 4th, so I will "take the 5th."  
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Re: GBRFL Web Site
« Reply #20 on: Jun 13th, 2005, 11:18pm » |
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on Jun 13th, 2005, 9:25pm, DB wrote:| As a general rule, I don't agree with that buyer beware philosophy. You should know what you have when you offer a deal, otherwise you invite"shark" practices of offering something you don't have knowing the taker will suffer. Of course, in a perfect world everyone will check, but we know many deals (like the one in question) are done at the 11th hour (as I was walking the dog as I recall). So, I think the benefit should go to the person getting the pick that doesn't exist. |
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I totally agree. I was just trying to make a middle-ground presentation. My main point was that when such cases occur, both parties are leaving it up to the commissioner to make it right. But, surely the guy who made the mistake should take a (punitive) hit. You'd have gotten his 3rd if he had one, DB!
Quote:| But in this case Trout doesn't even have a 3rd round pick and I don't believe he has another 4th, so I will "take the 5th." |
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Pun aside,... and a 6th. 
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Re: GBRFL Web Site & League Fee
« Reply #24 on: Jul 28th, 2005, 8:51pm » |
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Fellas,
Two things...
1) I today updated the "Rules/Scoring" page at the league site to indicate the NEW rules we passed at the Summer Meeting. They are displayed in RED font so that they stick out.
2) I just a few minutes ago sent you all a VERY IMPORTANT e-mail regarding the league fee. (Frank, Pak, DB, even though you three already paid, PLEASE do make sure to take a look at what I wrote in the last paragraph.)
Out,
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