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Re: GBRFL Web Site, League Fee & General Announcem
« Reply #350 on: Nov 9th, 2013, 10:40am » |
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What happens in the event of a tie if a team's coach is in the hospital or something?
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« Reply #351 on: Nov 9th, 2013, 4:15pm » |
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on Nov 9th, 2013, 10:40am, DB wrote:| What happens in the event of a tie if a team's coach is in the hospital or something? |
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An inactive coach (who has an interim coach filling in for him), e.g. Kubiak or Fox this week (and until they are back) (and Pagano last year), would be considered like a coach on a bye-week and given an automatic -99 (actually that is a negative infinity). In other words, if it comes down to a tie and you have an inactive coach of whatever kind (and your opponent does not), you lose! That is precisely why I dropped Fox this week (and kept Pagano). Fox will be considered inactive until he is back. Del Rio is (for) now (until Fox returns) the Broncos head coach.
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Re: GBRFL Web Site, League Fee & General Announcem
« Reply #352 on: Nov 15th, 2013, 1:31am » |
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Alright, guys, we have a (mildly) problematic situation this week with someone's lineup. Danny, your team is coachless this week! John Fox is out. Jack Del Rio is the acting head coach of the Broncos. Why do you think I dropped Fox? Why did Joe pick up Del Rio? Gotta pay attention, man! Indeed, read my post immediately above in which I address this very issue. In any event, it is what Danny indicated on his lineup submission, so I have got to put it through. Danny, pray that neither of your games this week comes down to a tie. If either of them does, you lose. Sorry! In any event, drop Fox next week, and pick up a new head coach! Good luck!
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Re: GBRFL Web Site, League Fee & General Announcem
« Reply #354 on: Nov 15th, 2013, 3:04am » |
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on Nov 15th, 2013, 2:43am, IbdFunk wrote:| that is bullshit if that happens. I should just get joe Philman back! it is no different if a free agent is taken despite my overlook. I know you can't beat me and it would be nice to have me lose in that fashion, but the right thing to do here is I'm back with joe Philman, the same way it would be with any other free agent. |
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What do you mean it would be the same with any other free-agent? If you requested an injured player or for that matter Jeff George, that is whom you would get. Actually, per your logic, I should get Fox back (and get my win over Trout last week). But, instead of being a whiny fuck like you, when this VERY unusual situation emerged last week, I took the high road, bit the bullet and set the ultimately right precedent and example for the league and dropped him with no questions asked.
Just get a new coach next week, and stop your whining. You fucked up, not me!
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Re: GBRFL Web Site, League Fee & General Announcem
« Reply #356 on: Nov 15th, 2013, 4:40pm » |
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on Nov 15th, 2013, 10:13am, IbdFunk wrote:| Your just bitter being at the bottom. The coach is requested on your team in jack del rio, when foxy returns he replaces model rio on your team no? It's no different then picking a free agent that is on a team already, it's not dicy, it's simple. |
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First off, it is one thing when we are trash-talking, but sifting through your chimpanzee-level English when talking about something that requires the least amount of intellectual rigor is exhausting.  Second, did you read my response and, as I suggested, the prior post? Does what you suggest, outside of just being your made-up logic on the matter, correspond to how things went with respect to my dropping Fox and Joe's picking up Del Rio? (Hint,... NO!) Do I have John Fox? NO! (For that matter, not that it would matter, do I have Jack Del Rio? NO!) Fox is OUT. Do we automatically get the backups to the players we have? NO! (Although, oddly, or maybe not so oddly, that is another illogical path you have gone down and given me a headache over in the past.) So, I dropped him (and lamented greatly over it, and, as it turned out, it cost me my game against Trout).
Bottom line, you picked up an inactive head coach, the equivalent of Dan Reeves (if you had listed Reeves, I would have given you Reeves). Again, the right precedent on this has been set. Thank God we do not have someone who employs arbitrary (self-serving) logic at the helm here. This has NOTHING to do with my location in the standings. At any rate, hope that your games do not come down to a tie-break, and pick up a new coach (better than Philbin) next week.
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Re: GBRFL Web Site, League Fee & General Announcem
« Reply #358 on: Nov 15th, 2013, 10:40pm » |
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Can someone clue me in? Who the hell is "joe Philman"?
on Nov 15th, 2013, 10:13am, IbdFunk wrote:| Your just bitter being at the bottom. The coach is requested on your team in jack del rio, when foxy returns he replaces model rio on your team no? It's no different then picking a free agent that is on a team already, it's not dicy, it's simple. |
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I got to thinking about these 3 sentences -- actually, there are 5 sentences here, which are masquerading, via spliced commas and thereby run-on sentences, as 3. Steg is objecting to the logic of the argument on the formal side, as I understand it; but there's a nice material fallacy here, too: "Your [sic] just bitter being at the bottom." Argumentum ad hominem, ladies and gentlemen!
And, yes, I am taking the opportunity to have fun being a philosophical windbag. 
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Re: GBRFL Web Site, League Fee & General Announcem
« Reply #361 on: Nov 22nd, 2013, 2:33pm » |
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on Nov 16th, 2013, 10:48pm, DirkDiggler wrote:Gotta random "what if" question. Joe did not start a defense this week as he listed Viniateri as both his kicker and defense. I assume he would start the seahawks because that is who he started last week.  |
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Yes, that is right.
Quote:| My question is this, what if he had different defenses starting last week in game 1 and game 2? (I ask because I often do that) Would the game 2 Defense be his default defense OR would they be game 1 and game 2 line ups again. |
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Great question... that our system matter-of-factly answers! A person's lineup for the week is his topmost one per his lineups page. In other words,... in Steve's words,... the last submitted lineup would "be game 1 and game 2 lineups again."
With that said, let me use this as an opportunity to mention again a rule of our game that often gets forgotten/misunderstood. We do NOT cascade kickers and defenses! Ignoring/Skipping a listed kicker or defense in your list that you failed to acquire (via free-agency) or simply do not have on your roster (and you just had a senior moment) is NOT an instance of cascading! If you list a kicker or defense on a bye-week as your #1 kicker or defense, even if you have other kickers or defenses, you are screwed! You, in essence, do not have a kicker or defense for that week!
Now, back to the main topic here, what would be stickier is if the person listed, as Joe did this week, "Adam Vinatieri" (that is to say, a NON-defense) as his defense for game 1,  but another actual defense for game 2 (or vice-versa). In that situation, I would do the generous thing and defer to the other defense he had in that week as opposed to referring to said respective game per his last submitted lineup.
Well, that is all for now... Over and OUT... 
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Re: GBRFL Web Site, League Fee & General Announcem
« Reply #362 on: Nov 22nd, 2013, 4:42pm » |
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I understanding the non-cascading rule paragraph, but I don't understand the application paragraph.
If Joe lists Vinitieri as his defense, does he get the defense from his most recent lineup or not? If so, would that be a cascading lineup?
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Re: GBRFL Web Site, League Fee & General Announcem
« Reply #363 on: Nov 23rd, 2013, 9:23pm » |
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on Nov 22nd, 2013, 4:42pm, DB wrote:| If Joe lists Vinitieri as his defense, does he get the defense from his most recent lineup or not? If so, would that be a cascading lineup? |
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No... Common sense has to kick in. Adam Vinatieri is not a defense. So, ignoring/skipping Adam Vinatieri in his lineup is like ignoring/skipping a defense in his list that was not acquired (via free-agency), not cascading to another defense [further down his list because of, say, a bye-week, which is not allowed (for defenses)]. He did not list anything else (for either of his games), so I defer to the order of his defenses in his prior week's lineup(s). (That happens not infrequently as in when guys do not list complete lineups.)
Cascading only occurs when a player (quarterback, running back or receiver) accrues no stats. Ignoring/Skipping a player not acquired (or incorrectly listed as in this weird case with Joe) is not that. In most instances, the distinction makes no difference. BUT, sometimes it does.
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Re: GBRFL Web Site, League Fee & General Announcem
« Reply #364 on: Nov 27th, 2013, 4:07am » |
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Due to the extra short week, the trading deadline's being upon us, and some messages I received requesting that, if it is at all possible to get the results up quicker this week, it would be much appreciated, I sucked it up here tonight and got 'er done!  Enjoy the early results and what seems to be cooking up to be an exciting run to the finish! The standings, indeed, are tight!!! 
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Re: GBRFL Web Site, League Fee & General Announcem
« Reply #365 on: Nov 27th, 2013, 4:19am » |
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on Nov 27th, 2013, 4:07am, StegRock wrote:| Due to the extra short week, the trading deadline's being upon us, and some messages I received requesting that, if it is at all possible to get the results up quicker this week, it would be much appreciated, I sucked it up here tonight and got 'er done! Enjoy the early results and what seems to be cooking up to be an exciting run to the finish! The standings, indeed, are tight!!! |
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Thank you Steg!!! Much appreciated.
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Re: GBRFL Web Site, League Fee & General Announcem
« Reply #367 on: Dec 7th, 2013, 5:50pm » |
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on Dec 2nd, 2013, 2:11pm, StegRock wrote:| Late as they have been here in recent years (February/March the following year), but what is looking to be a little earlier this year, the 2012 plaques are in the design phase. It should not be after too long before you can give it a hug and reminisce about your run last year to a plaque. |
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Joe, Steve, I need to know where the 2012-2013 plaques need to be sent, so could you guys please pm me your addresses at your respective earliest possible convenience?
Mark, I have yours in Littleton. If there is any change, let me know, but, otherwise, you are good to go.
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Re: GBRFL Web Site, League Fee & General Announcem
« Reply #368 on: Dec 29th, 2013, 1:50pm » |
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on Dec 7th, 2013, 5:50pm, StegRock wrote:Joe, Steve, I need to know where the 2012-2013 plaques need to be sent, so could you guys please pm me your addresses at your respective earliest possible convenience?
Mark, I have yours in Littleton. If there is any change, let me know, but, otherwise, you are good to go. |
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Are the plaques being received???
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