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Re: Trash Talk Thread
« Reply #275 on: Dec 3rd, 2010, 8:54pm » |
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on Dec 3rd, 2010, 8:14pm, DB wrote:| What happens if there is a three way tie? Does it goto head-to-head or points differential? |
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Ties in the standings between however many teams are broken at the end of the season the same way they are broken during the season. It goes by head-to-head, first, then, points differential.
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« Reply #276 on: Dec 3rd, 2010, 9:26pm » |
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Just to be clear with this three way tie business....
If Team A has tiebreaker over Team B but not Team C and Team C has tiebreaker over both, then Team C wins, right?
What if Team A has tiebreaker over Team B (2-1), Team B has tiebreaker over Team C (2-1) and Team C has tiebreaker over Team A (3-0). Does Team C win because he has 4 combined wins against the other team while Team A has 3 and B has 3? Or does it only matter that A and B have tiebreaker regardless of overall head to head records, so it goes to points differential?
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Re: Trash Talk Thread
« Reply #277 on: Dec 4th, 2010, 8:27pm » |
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on Dec 3rd, 2010, 9:26pm, DB wrote:Just to be clear with this three way tie business....
If Team A has tiebreaker over Team B but not Team C and Team C has tiebreaker over both, then Team C wins, right? |
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Quote:| What if Team A has tiebreaker over Team B (2-1), Team B has tiebreaker over Team C (2-1) and Team C has tiebreaker over Team A (3-0). |
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First off, just to clarify, if we are talking the Championship, not going into our extended Week 17, a fourth game between the teams will very likely be involved in the equation.
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Quote:| Or does it only matter that A and B have tiebreaker regardless of overall head to head records, so it goes to points differential? |
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, which is always how three-or-more-way ties in the standings are broken. But, remember a fourth game is very likely going to be involved. So, if, let's say, Team A has a 2-2 record against Team B; Team B has a 2-2 record against Team C, but Team C has a 2-1 record against Team A, Team C is your Champion. But, here's a more complicated scenario... Let's say Team A has a 2-2 record against Team B, and Team B has a 3-1 record against Team C; then, if Team C has a losing record against Team A, it comes down to points differential between Teams A and B for the Championship; if Team C has a winning record against Team A, Team B is your Champion. Follow? Think it through...
The bottom line, though, is that the bumper-week format largely serves to avoid the extrapolation nightmare. It does not cover all permutations, but having all the teams who are side-by-side in the standings play each other Week 17 surely reduces the risk.
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« Reply #280 on: Dec 6th, 2010, 12:06pm » |
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I did blow it. I thought if Tebow could come close or even provide one TD from his numbers in the past KC game, I would be much better off than an unknown from Stanton.
However, as has been the case with several of my decisions this year, I would describe it as crazy fail.
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« Reply #286 on: Dec 22nd, 2010, 5:18pm » |
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Actually...
on Dec 22nd, 2010, 11:47am, Pakman wrote:I did some quick calculations for the games this past week and it looks like I won both games, albeit, a very close on with Hahn.
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I had somewhat of a bead on things, and I cringed when I read this...  I hope you didn't go and jinx yourself, Pakman... 
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« Reply #288 on: Dec 26th, 2010, 7:39pm » |
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on Dec 22nd, 2010, 11:47am, Pakman wrote:I did some quick calculations for the games this past week and it looks like I won both games, albeit, a very close on with Hahn.
Looks like I'm in the driver's seat for the championship.
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Pak = 
That has to be one of the worst cases of wrong I have seen in some time.
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« Reply #291 on: Dec 29th, 2010, 11:33am » |
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I think it's true, I have Trout beating me in OT (I am never 100% in calculating these numbers, but much better than Pak). This would be especially painful consider that just about any other lineup would have given me a win. I think I would have won had Fitzgerald not caught a pass in garbage time or had Hartley kicked just one more extra point ... plus many other possibilities.
I have a feeling that this just isn't my year but if there is anyone that I would have confidence in choking, it is Pak.
By the way, Trout and "key win" haven't been in the same sentence in like .... never!
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« Reply #292 on: Dec 29th, 2010, 10:08pm » |
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Yo, we got some mathematically-challenged dudes here,...  one of whom, mind you, is likely going to be our 2010-2011 champion. Also, we got a new guy back in first heading into our extended Week 17. Good luck! 
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« Reply #295 on: Jan 2nd, 2011, 2:49pm » |
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This question is to Joe and Steve, and, please, understand that I ask this with my metaphorical money where my mouth is in the form of playing the Falcons today in a meaningful Week 17 game against a weak opponent. What is the wisdom in playing your defense in the playoffs over Week 17, especially if the game is meaningful (like it was for Pittsburgh today) and against a weak opponent (like it was for both Pittsburgh and New England), no less deep into the playoffs, where the competition presumably only gets increasingly tougher, no less the Super Bowl (where the likes of Vick, Brees, Rodgers and company lurk)? The whole extended Week 17 thing makes total sense when it comes to players, but not really defenses. In fact, it could easily be argued that playing a defense in the playoffs is a dangerous move, and the deeper the more dangerous. Moreover, the whole playing them in reverse cascading order thing, i.e. SB, CC, DR, WC, W17, means, save for the Super Bowl and Week 17, you are playing them in a loss, which you would think is not what you want. Critical reflections?
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« Reply #296 on: Jan 2nd, 2011, 4:07pm » |
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Playing a defense in the playoffs may be okay in the right situation. But as far as...
"the whole playing them in reverse cascading order thing, i.e. SB, CC, DR, WC, W17, means, save for the Super Bowl and Week 17, you are playing them in a loss"
I thought the same thing. ... unless they win the SB.
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« Reply #297 on: Jan 2nd, 2011, 4:20pm » |
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on Jan 2nd, 2011, 2:49pm, StegRock wrote:| This question is to Joe and Steve, and, please, understand that I ask this with my metaphorical money where my mouth is in the form of playing the Falcons today in a meaningful Week 17 game against a weak opponent. What is the wisdom in playing your defense in the playoffs over Week 17, especially if the game is meaningful (like it was for Pittsburgh today) and against a weak opponent (like it was for both Pittsburgh and New England), no less deep into the playoffs, where the competition presumably only gets increasingly tougher, no less the Super Bowl (where the likes of Vick, Brees, Rodgers and company lurk)? The whole extended Week 17 thing makes total sense when it comes to players, but not really defenses. In fact, it could easily be argued that playing a defense in the playoffs is a dangerous move, and the deeper the more dangerous. Moreover, the whole playing them in reverse cascading order thing, i.e. SB, CC, DR, WC, W17, means, save for the Super Bowl and Week 17, you are playing them in a loss, which you would think is not what you want. Critical reflections? |
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Well, in reverse order, agree, that makes no sense.
My logic in not starting the Steelers this week or the Ravens was because while the games were not THAT meaningful for either of them since both were in the playoffs. I envisioned the teams getting up and then pulling all of the starters on Defense. That did happen in some of the games.
I would rather have my defense with all of the starters in versus giving up junk points at the end of the game. It appears that the two defenses I am playing AGAINST are going to fuck me anyway. Atlanta was great and the Redskins look pathetic against the Giants.
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Re: Trash Talk Thread
« Reply #298 on: Jan 4th, 2011, 4:24pm » |
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This is going to be close. Both my games are close right now. My game with Joe will basically come down to the N.E. Defense in their final game. The Jets D was dominant so he won't get much except possibly some bonus points. But if the Pats can get some of those, Joe could win.
Game with Pak should be close too. Comes down to Shonn Greene v. Matt Forte (I am up by 10 yards going in and we are tied with 0 TDs). DeShaun Jackson probably won't get enough yards to matter, but we are tied in receiving TDs right now, so a Jackson TD would be big for Pak (as would one by Greene).
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Re: Trash Talk Thread
« Reply #299 on: Jan 4th, 2011, 8:08pm » |
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A little look back... Check this, my most recent post, out, but I'd suggest that you don't have your mouth full of hot coffee when you do so...
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=58;a ction=display;num=1185832268;start=75.
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