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Ravens Offseason Report
« on: Mar 14th, 2003, 12:57pm » |
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Well, now that all the rest of the dominoes have fallen, it seemed like this was a thread needing to be started. Bottom line, I am not getting the Ravens QB hunt at all. Griese could be a decent get, IF THEY CAN GET HIM. Though, as I expressed on the "Free-agent QB's thread", I do not think it is a good move, it looks like he is on his way to Miami. And, does Baltimore really want to wait until after June 1st to start prepping their starting QB?  Or, are they really going to be willing to pay the high price it would take to get him in a trade with Denver?
Here's what I think, and I know some of you (are going to) think I am crazy  , but they should just go out and sign Jeff George, yes, Jeff George. First, he would come for the league minimum, especially if he is to be dubbed their starter. Second, he is not that old, at least by today's standards of successful oldie QB's; he is 35. They have a young upstart in Redman, who should be ready to take the reigns within three years, anyway, and this year's draft offers up some decent quarterbacks, to boot. But, the most significant part of the equation that works out is that George played under Billick in Minnesota, pretty darn well at that; he is already familiar with Billick's system, and we all know he has a cannon for an arm, which Holmgren confirmed last year he still has and that Billick we all know loves. I don't know... it just makes sense to me.
Anybody else want to chime in?
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Re: Ravens Offseason Report: Browns returning
« Reply #4 on: Mar 19th, 2003, 1:01pm » |
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Well, that guy who was out of the league for three years, OT Orlando Brown, is back in the NFL with the Ravens along with LB Cornell Brown. Here is the LATEST from "the Gridiron Newsstand":
http://www.sunspot.net/sports/football/bal-sp.ravens19mar19,0,3364408.st ory?coll=bal%2Dsports%2Dfootball;
http://www.ravenszone.net/template.php?subsection=single_news_show&s ection=press&content_id=1754.
Any thoughts, especially regarding Orlando Brown's comeback?
Just for your information, the original discussion on Orlando Brown was conducted on the following thread if you want to check it out:
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=55;a ction=display;num=1045322036.
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Re: Ravens Offseason Report
« Reply #11 on: May 1st, 2003, 8:57pm » |
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Here is a little local corroboration of Robinson's going to Baltimore from "the Gridiron Newsstand":
http://www.sunspot.net/sports/football/bal-sp.ravens01may01,0,7759910.st ory?coll=bal%2Dsports%2Dfootball.
Personally, I think he is done! That having been said, this is a great situation for him vis-a-vis three of the four other options he had as per the article: Oakland, Detroit or Arizona. San Fran, which they also mention, probably would have been the best destination for him of them all with Baltimore being the second-best as I see it. 
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Re: Ravens Offseason Report
« Reply #13 on: May 29th, 2003, 2:35am » |
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Oh, you're keepin' me awake here, kid!  Anyway, aside from the Super Bowl guarantee, I agree with a lot of what you portend, MC. I actually think Chris Redman is very underrated. Before he went down with the injury last year, I thought he was slowly, but steadily improving, especially considering what he had to work with. Yes, Blake did better with the same, but he is a veteran and, perhaps, a bit more mobile. I still think Redman can be a solid NFL pocket quarterback someday somewhere. Okay, now it is time for... 
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Re: Ravens Offseason Report
« Reply #15 on: Jun 3rd, 2003, 2:13am » |
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As an avid Ravsn fan [tough to guess, eh?] I thought I might chime in on the Ravens QB search.
You may well be right about Redman. I actually agree that the steady progress he showed last year before the injury convinced me that he was going to succeed in the NFL.
But I dont think that casts the Ravens QB moves in a bad light. First, they negotiated with Blake, officially under the assumption that Blake was the starter hands down. But I had a sneaking suspicion that in reality they wanted to see Redman compete for it. And this attitude showed in their offers to Blake, which really were below par for a starter, as Blake kept saying.
Truth is, they didnt want to bring Blake back unless it was a situation where it made sense to give the starter's job to whoever earned it.
And they did this precisely because they knew Redman could be the real deal.
So why get Boller? Precisely because of the word "could." You certainly dont want to enter a season with Anthony Wright as your backup, not when your expectations are to return to the playoffs. You want Redman to have a chance, but you dont want to hand it to him without someone at least pushing his back.
Enter Kyle Boller. Was it stupid to bring in a young QB when they already have one? I dont think it was.
Look back at the first round QB picks in recent history, and they have roughly a 50-50 shot of becoming an established starter down the line.
Obviously, if you have two of these QBs, the odds of finding at least one who will perform for you in the long term is rather good. And the Ravens have a year to find out
1) If Redman's progress continues
2) If Boller's potential shown in the past year sprouts into productivity.
And if both happen....then you have 2 good QBs, and there are plenty of teams that would love to have just 1.
Although the Ravens call Boller the QB of the future, I think that if Redman plays very well this year, then they'lll bring him back next year with Boller as the backup.
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Re: Ravens Offseason Report
« Reply #16 on: Jun 3rd, 2003, 12:29pm » |
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I think Redman is the better qb "at present" He was playing well last year before his injury. His stats were fabulous. The only person at that time was Lewis. Billick had switched to a ball control team based on personel...no Moss/Carter. Taylor and Heap are improving too and Robinson will help. I beleive Redman knows the system better and did everything that was asked of him. 7 tds, 3 ints, 53%, 1053 yds, 76 passer rating in 5.5 games. not too bad. Add that to Blakes stats 13 tds, 11 ints, 55%, 2084 yds, 77 passer rating in 10.5 games. Very similar #s except for the MUCH higher int ratio for Blake. Combine them and you get 3100 yds, 20 tds. Not bad in a ball control offense with only 1 solid WR/Taylor. Last everyone was talking about Redmand being Smart, improving reading better and not making mistakes. He is the man there.
I think it was smart to get Boller. Redman is in yr 4, with only 6 games under his belt. You can never have enough smart young good qbs on your team. I think it is Redman's job to lose. He only lost it last year because of injury. He is not Favre or Daunte , but i think the improved OL and Robinson now there they will improve passing wise. Fantasy wise a solid backup.
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Re: Ravens Offseason Report
« Reply #18 on: Jul 31st, 2003, 1:41am » |
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Well, it's ALL over "The REAL Feed" if you missed it...
First-rounder Boller, Ravens reach agreement
NFL.com (30.07.2003 19:52)
The Baltimore Ravens and holdout quarterback Kyle Boller reached a verbal agreement on a five-year deal.
Ravens reach deal with QB Boller
The Sports Network: NFL (30.07.2003 20:50)
Holdout over: Ravens agree to deal with QB Boller
ESPN NFL (30.07.2003 21:02)
Here is ALL the LOCAL LOWDOWN from "the Gridiron Newsstand":
http://www.ravenszone.net/template.php?subsection=single_news_show&s ection=press&content_id=2460;
http://www.sunspot.net/sports/football/bal-boller0730,0,169025.story?col l=bal-sports-football.
How do you guys weigh in on Boller? And, what do you all think of Redman in general and in light of Boller's presence? I, for one, think that Redman could be a good NFL quarterback if given the chance to develop, a la the way Steve McNair was. Boller was a one-year wonder in college, a la Akili Smith, kind of. I like the tools he appears to bring to the table, but you never know, a la Ryan Leaf. I do think he will be given the chance to unseat Redman sooner rather than later, but Redman will start the season the starter.
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