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Re: Bears In-season Report
« Reply #5 on: Sep 13th, 2006, 12:40am » |
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on Sep 12th, 2006, 8:26pm, The_Dog wrote:"Can anyone explain to me why Brian Griese is not the #1 QB? In my eyes he clearly outplayed Rex Grossman, and deserves the starting nod." this quote was brought to you by Walker Boh in his Bears report......(sorry I don't know how to do the quote thingy) 
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First and foremost Dog, I want to thank you for reading my Chicago Bears Fantasy Football-specific Team Report. I put a lot of effort into writing them, and it's nice to know that you appreciate my hard work. 
I gather from your half-assed post that you disagree with me. That's great. Care to elaborate? In fact, since you know so much, why don't you give it a shot? There are plenty of teams here at the Gridiron in need of a correspondent (or "expert" as you like to call them), and I'd love to read your brilliant insight of fantasy football. Even better, since you know so much more about the Bears then I do, I would gladly let you take over, and I'd start writing for another team. What do you say, Dog?  I seriously doubt you will take me up on this offer. No, I gather you're the type of guy that likes to sit back and rip other peoples work, yet all the while lacking the balls to put something out there himself. 
As for Grossman and his AWESOME game... 262 yards, 1 TD, & 1 INT... good enough for a whopping 14 points  in most standard scoring leagues. OUTSTANDING! How did he do it? Especially against a team with such a ferocious defense!  He was simply INCREDIBLE!
It wasn't easy, but I did a little research and found a list of all the BIG NAME QB's that beat Grossman's UNDENIEABLE performance: Charlie Batch, Chad Pennington, Alex Smith, David Carr, Brad Johnson, and of course, the future Hall of Famer Charlie Frye. To think that Grossman actually came close to scoring more points then all of those great players is mind-blowing.  (Just between you and me, I think some of those guys might even get claimed off the waiver wire later this week.) There were 7 other QB's that bested his performance, but who's counting, right? 
Ultimately Dog, my fantasy football writing is just a hobby... Something I do for fun. Living in the Chicago area, I'd like to think that I'm exposed to a little more Bears information than most, and if I can help someone out along the way, well that's great! And if I piss somebody off, well that's great too! I'm just a guy that likes football. I watch it on TV, listen to sports radio, read stories about it in the papers and magazines, and talk about it with my friends, just like you. I'm not an expert. I don't have any "insider's" information, just an opinion. Is that ok with you?
 BTW, if you'd like to reply and quote something I've written here, simply click the (" QUOTE) icon located in the upper right hand corner of this post. Have a nice day. 
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Re: Bears In-season Report
« Reply #7 on: Sep 13th, 2006, 5:51pm » |
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on Sep 13th, 2006, 12:40am, Walker Boh wrote: I seriously doubt you will take me up on this offer. No, I gather you're the type of guy that likes to sit back and rip other peoples work, yet all the while lacking the balls to put something out there himself.
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3 straight underperforming seasons, one nitwit head coach, 2 problem child WRs, 1 collosal trade bungle....but a wild boat party with booze and hookers!!!????? Priceless.
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Re: Bears In-season Report
« Reply #11 on: Sep 17th, 2006, 11:43pm » |
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on Sep 17th, 2006, 10:58pm, The_Dog wrote:"experts"
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 , I think what's at issue here is that this guy's putting his "neck" on the line and busting his balls for the site and he doesn't need 'em busted by yet someone else because they "got him" on this "one". I mean it's easy for the turtles to cast stones with their necks shriveled up in their shells,... and, no, making some "pompous" post here on this thread doesn't really count as sticking out your neck. It's already in the context of dishing out 'tude to a dude who's opinion you know (at least only to the degree that you do here) only because he's contributing it as a "staff writer" on the site. I mean... that's what's lame about the proverbial "peanut gallery". You have nothing to lose. Outside of you and maybe the guy you're debating with, no one's really paying much attention, and, furthermore, the guy writing official REPORTS for the site is probably too busy writing his next report to continue getting into it with the peanut gallery. I mean it's one thing to counter a position. It's a whole nother to act like an asshole about it and throw it back in his face. Meanwhile, we're only two weeks in and the Bears haven't really played anyone really solid yet. The jury is still out on this... though, granted, at this point you have a substantial lead. Need we put some of your fantasy exploits on the table and make you eat "crow", Mr. Tuiasosopo?  Fuckin' YIKES,... but I've let you off the hook and let this go looooong ago, but that fuckin' was ABSOLUTELY retarded beyond excuse!!! Shall we keep a thread tracking "The_Dog" in the CBFL this year? Point being, ,... I mean... your taunting Jamo about the "experts" thing is insulting... TO ME. All these people are are volunteer writers contributing something of great value to this site (and are setting themselves up, perhaps, for jobs someday; NO, not because they are (self-proclaimed) "experts", but because they are giving it up for me and, IN FACT, putting themselves in that position, so when his face is in the magazine someday, it's not because he was some "expert" with an "in"; he and whoever else EARNED IT... by not just remaining in the peanut gallery where everybody "sits back" and complains about the "experts" and wonder why their takes deserve special attention (maybe it's because they believed, worked hard, positioned themselves accordingly and EARNED IT)). That having been said, I too am not a big fan of these self-proclaimed FF "experts", mind you, . HE NEVER CALLED HIMSELF AN EXPERT, though! BUT, he has earned/is earning his "keep" around here by taking the bull by the horns and being a "STAFF WRITER" FOR the site, authoring well-thought-out reports for a team that's not even his favorite team and, more importantly, "authoring" his "status" on this site,...  NOT as "expert" as you've dubbed him, but as BIG-time contributor to the site and HELPER!!! Life is not so much about making people eat crow as it is stepping up to the plate when the opportunity presents itself!!! 
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Re: Bears In-season Report
« Reply #14 on: Sep 18th, 2006, 1:20pm » |
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I think Takamine nailed a couple of points here. First off, anyone who makes predictions should be prepared for criticism if the predictions are off base (no matter how well-intentioned they were). Because of this, I think people need to develop some thick skin and see the criticisms as a challenge to do better next time. Over the long haul, we're all going to miss the mark about half the time.
Also, when the criticism starts getting personal, then it's crossed the line. If people have to resort to insults and personal attacks, then it's clearly a reflection upon their own lack of self-esteem and maturity.
As for the self-proclaimed "experts" on the site... I only know of one expert here, and that's me. 
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Re: Bears In-season Report
« Reply #15 on: Sep 18th, 2006, 5:34pm » |
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The point is that Grossman should get a ton of credit for having a very good showing in week 1 and a great performance in week 2. While the Packers and Lions aren't elite defenses, they are not the worst either. Neither team was smoked by there other game.
Forgeting what was written here, every "expert" had Greise starting by now. The Bears stuck with Grossman who is proving (and he obviously has not proven much after two weeks) to be a good starter who spreads the ball, goes deep and has a cannon arm. The Bears have a great team and were winning with Orton last year. Grossman came back and only took the job back because Orton was making mistakes. Rex is not going to have 4 TDs per game, but as long as he stays healthy and the team is winning, he is the man.
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Re: Bears In-season Report
« Reply #16 on: Sep 18th, 2006, 6:33pm » |
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on Sep 18th, 2006, 1:20pm, Philly wrote:| I think Takamine nailed a couple of points here. First off, anyone who makes predictions should be prepared for criticism if the predictions are off base (no matter how well-intentioned they were). Because of this, I think people need to develop some thick skin and see the criticisms as a challenge to do better next time. Over the long haul, we're all going to miss the mark about half the time. |
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I hate agreeing with Jeff here, because he is never right, but come on. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
on Sep 18th, 2006, 1:20pm, Philly wrote:| As for the self-proclaimed "experts" on the site... I only know of one expert here, and that's me. |
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Stop it Jeff, this made milk come out of my nose! You're an expert all right, but what of we have not quite figured out just yet.
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Re: Bears In-season Report
« Reply #18 on: Sep 18th, 2006, 10:38pm » |
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 Geeeeze guys, I'm liking the controversy, it's what makes these sites interesting. 
Steg your loyalty to the staff writer is great to see and much appreciated, I'm sure!!!! I know I appreciate it, though it may be, perhaps, a bit misplaced. You are the kind of guy, I want to go to war with and have at my back side! 
Truth is, if you want a job in journalism, you best develop thick skin, while at the same time sticking your neck out knowing it will be looped off. Further I've never met a "true" fan that did'nt have a pocket full of opinions as to how to run the team. I know I'm one.
Arguing back and forth is half the fun! Let's not run anyone off the site...Especially not the DAWG...I have not yet got to gig him about the number of points Rackers vs. Tu poop so...just yet. 
Controversy does bring readers and readers bring members to the site ='s potential $$$$$$$$$$$...keep it up...just let's not take ourselfs to seriously. 
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Re: Bears In-season Report
« Reply #19 on: Sep 18th, 2006, 10:55pm » |
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on Sep 18th, 2006, 10:38pm, cwhams wrote:| ...you best develop thick skin, while at the same time sticking your neck out knowing it will be looped off. ... Let's not run anyone off the site... |
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Doesn't that cut both ways, though, cw??? He shouldn't "feel" like he's being "run off the site". And, if he were to (which he's not; that's evidenced by his rather long history here and his other posts right here above),... well,... what would that say??? Perhaps that would indicate that he's too thin-skinned...  ... (which I don't think he is, mind you). ... It all just is what it is!!! It's all good (enough).
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I, personally, live by the "opposite", so to speak, of this adage,... by a more active, "look at myself and how I treat others in the mirror" version... if you follow...???
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Re: Bears In-season Report
« Reply #20 on: Sep 19th, 2006, 9:00pm » |
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Wow, it's nice to see the thread taking so many hits  , I just wish it was more football related. I suppose a lot of it is my fault. Now that I look back at it, I could have handled things a lot better, but I let The_Dog's "expert" comment get to me, and gave him a piece of my mind.  You see, The_Dog and I work together, and we talk (more like argue) about sports every day. He read my Week One Outlook on the Grossman/Griese debate, and made it known that he thought otherwise. He said that I was getting "caught up in the hype", and affirmed his belief in Grossman as the starter. Fine. So far, so good. Then after week one, he (in my opinion) hit below the belt with his "expert" comment. If it were from someone else, it would not have struck the chord that it did, but it was from The_Dog, and I knew it was written to piss me off, and it did. I would have preferred him to respond the way he does in person, with an argument based on opinions and stats, not that one lined dribble, designed to make me look bad in front of the Gridiron gang. Now I have no problem eating crow, but let me eat it with dignity. That being said, I should have let him take his shot and moved on... oh well, next time.
Now for some clarification (and back-tracking )... I never said Grossman was a bad QB, or would never be good. I just said that Griese earned and deserved the right to start, while Grossman did not. Now Rex is off to a great start, better then anyone (even ) could have imagined, but that doesn't change the fact that he had a horrible preseason, and was outplayed by Griese. And who's to say that Griese's numbers wouldn't have been better if given the chance? The chance that he earned and deserved.
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Re: Bears In-season Report
« Reply #24 on: Sep 21st, 2006, 6:39pm » |
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| I DIGRESS...
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on Sep 21st, 2006, 7:27am, The_Dog wrote:| Did it taste good or bitter? |
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As "wrong"  as Jamo was regarding Griese over Grossman thus far, it really is in a way still "ultimately" pending, AND, in any event, he wasn't NEARLY as wrong as you were about Marques Tuiasosopo, which you fought with us tooth-and-nail about, and Aaron Brooks, for that matter (and, as is "evidenced", some other stuff, but we'll just leave it at that). How's your crow tastin'? |
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Damn! I hate it when I'm right. Thomas Jones will start until he gets hurt for the rest of the season...Benson will continue to get every chance in the book to prove himself on the field of play...this, as it should be. 
