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Keyshawn Johnson 76yards
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A little late, but I would like all your thoughts
« on: Jan 13th, 2003, 7:31pm »
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In one of my Yahoo! Money Leagues I made a "pre-season" trade, if you will. The trade was for Lavarnues Coles, Tony Gonzalez, and Stephen Davis. The man I gave up was Marshall Faulk.  
 
I got off to a 6-0 start. Then, out of nowhere, I went into a huge losing streak, and barely made the "Championship" Playoffs. I finished 4th in the standings, and got knocked out in the first round.  
 
People called me dumb for doing that deal, but Faulk was injured for awhile, and I think I made out well. Obviously the outcome was terrible, but, I would like y'alls thoughts on this. My team after the Faulk deal was this.
 
QB Donovan McNabb-After Injury was replaced by Pennington and Kitna
WR Eric Moulds
WR Donald Driver
WR Dennis Northcutt
RB Jamal Lewis
RB Stacey Mack
TE Tony Gonzalez
RB T.J. Duckett
WR Jerry Porter
RB Stephen Davis
RB Marcell Shipp
WR Chris Chambers
 
I also have another one for you all to ponder..  
Also in another Yahoo! Money League, I drafted, IMO, "THE Greatest Fantasy Football Team."  
 
QB Daunte Culpepper
WR Joe Horn
WR Derrick Mason
WR Donte' Stallworth
RB Duce Staley
RB Ahman Green
TE Bubba Franks
WR Jimmy Smith
WR Chad Johnson
RB Jamal Lewis
RB Corey Dillon
WR Jerry Porter
WR Peerless Price  
 
I finished 9-1 in the season. Got knocked out in the FIRST round of the playoffs... due to a silly "tie-breaker" bah!
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: A little late, but I would like all your thoug
« Reply #1 on: Jan 13th, 2003, 10:47pm »
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Hmm, I've had my second topic moved? Maybe I'm reading the board instructions wrong? I thought the Red Zone was for... , including garnering thoughts on FF trades, draft selections, rosters/lineups (e.g., Do you think I should do this trade?/Who should I take with this pick? I am debating between...), and give player/team projections and predictions. This board is for the hardcore at heart.
 
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Re: A little late, but I would like all your thoug
« Reply #2 on: Jan 13th, 2003, 10:48pm »
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I know that moving this was a close call!  But, since what you are asking is "after the fact," it fits better "between the 20's" than it does in "the Red Zone".  Read through the respective board descriptions with scrutiny and you will see what I mean.  This post fits the "spirit" of "between the 20's" MUCH MORE exactly than it does the "spirit" of "the Red Zone".  Anyway, thank you all for your anticipated cooperation and continued understanding.
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Re: A little late, but I would like all your thoug
« Reply #3 on: Jan 13th, 2003, 11:18pm »
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on Jan 13th, 2003, 10:47pm, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:
Hmm, I've had my second topic moved? Maybe I'm reading the board instructions wrong? I thought the Red Zone was for... , including garnering thoughts on FF trades, draft selections, rosters/lineups (e.g., Do you think I should do this trade?/Who should I take with this pick? I am debating between...), and give player/team projections and predictions. This board is for the hardcore at heart.

 
KJ 76, everybody, it has to do with this idea of "after the fact" versus "before the fact" or, at least, "during the fact."  The "between the 20's" board description talks about "bragging" and "(fantasy) team rankings", i.e. "rank my team" posts.  These are both inherently "after the fact" topics.  You are not asking whether or not you should make this deal based on your current roster; you are asking whether or not you should have made this deal by looking at how your roster looked afterwards!  That is much more consistent with the "spirit" of "between the 20's" than it is "the Red Zone", on which the discussions and debates are to be forward-looking in nature and should conduce thoughts and conclusions that may be of immediate benefit to others.  Guys, I know this can be confusing.  Some of these categorizations really split hairs.  That is just the nature of this kind of venue.  We are just trying to set precedents here in an attempt to avoid the seemingly random posting, i.e. blatant ignorance of board descriptions, which is all too often exacerbated by patterns of loose rules enforcement on the admins' part, that goes on elsewhere.  If you are not sure, simply follow this golden rule:  post downstream!  In other words, if you are not sure where what you want to post should go, play it safe and post it a board lower!  I hope this explanation was sufficient and I did not step on anybody's toes too hard.  I am just trying to provide a well-maintained environment for us all to continue to enjoy for a long time to come.  Thank you all again for your anticipated understanding and compliance.
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Re: A little late, but I would like all your thoug
« Reply #4 on: Jan 14th, 2003, 12:08am »
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Guys, for further discussion on this important topic of "moving threads" on "the Gridiron", please go to the following thread; actually, I implore all of you to do so:
 
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=58;a ction=display;num=1042519004.
 
If you have something you want to say regarding the topic of the "moving of threads," please do it on this other thread.  Do NOT do it here!  Let's not clutter up KJ 76's thread anymore!  Thanks!
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Re: A little late, but I would like all your thoug
« Reply #5 on: Jan 14th, 2003, 9:18am »
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KJ, As to your trade, at the start of the year I would have said it was pretty good.  With Faulks injury it looks like you made out like a bandit.          I think my team this year would have been on par with yours.  Qb. Mcnabb,Griese- rb. Holmes,Mcallister,Lewis- Wr. Harrison,Buriss,Coles,D.Jax- te. Heap.  Season record was 12-1 + 257 in points and of course got the crap kicked out of me in the 2nd round.  Had i made it to the Stupor bowl would have won 171-151.  It would have been interesting to see which one of us lucked out. Hope this is on the right thread.
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Re: A little late, but I would like all your thoug
« Reply #6 on: Jan 14th, 2003, 11:26am »
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Faulk went #1 in both of my leagues and had the "potential" to outscore all of them combined. (That would have been my selling point.) I know his injuries made it a fair deal overall, but I don't think you got enough for him at the time. Coles was just an up and coming player and it doesn't even look like you needed another WR. Davis is a decent back, but Faulk could easily double his output with an average year. The only star you nabbed was Gonzales, but IMO he's not worthy of being the top player in a deal for Faulk. There's no way I would have made that deal before the season started.
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Re: A little late, but I would like all your thoug
« Reply #7 on: Jan 16th, 2003, 2:01pm »
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IMO - you made a great trade.
Even preseason.
Martz has ruined the Rams. Got by for a season on player talent alone - then, as we all saw, it came crashing down.
Even when Faulk was healthy, he didn't use him.
The losing streak?
Just proves fantasy football rule #1:
"You can never have too many quality running backs".
The problem wasn't really giving up M Faulk for 3 quality starters.
It's just that you didn't (or couldn't) pick up anyone else.
Lewis, Mack, Duckett and Shipp don't count.
 
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