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BarnabyWilde

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BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« on: Jun 15^th, 2003, 3:54pm »

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Let's keep all the draft comments on this thread. Make sure you talk plenty of trash!

		Rosters


Tony_O	Jetdoc	KJ76 Yards	Walker Boh	bgsgfan
RB Ricky Williams	RB LaDainian Tomlinson	RB Deuce McCallister	RB Clinton Portis	RB Priest Holmes
LB Ray Lewis	WR Randy Moss	QB Michael Vick	LB Brian Urlacher	QB Donovan McNabb
RB Fred Taylor	RB Stephen Davis	LB Derrick Brooks	QB Rich Gannon	WR Eric Moulds
LB Keith Brooking	QB Aaron Brooks	WR David Boston	WR Hines Ward	DE Jason Taylor
S Roy Williams	LB Jamie Sharper	DE Julius Peppers	DE Michael Strahan	WR Donald Driver
WR Jimmy Smith	S Rodney Harrison	WR Chris Chambers	WR Jerry Rice	LB Mike Maslowski
S Darren Sharper	WR Marty Booker	RB Michael Bennett	WR Rod Smith	RB Curtis Martin
WR Isaac Bruce	WR Laveranues Coles	LB Kendrell Bell	LB Rosevelt Colvin	WR Keyshawn Johnson
PK David Akers	LB Chad Brown	CB Champ Bailey	CB Brian Dawkins	LB Keith Bullock
QB Steve McNair	DE Jevon Kearse	CB Charles Woodson	DE Leonard Little	S Adrian Wilson
WR Darrell Jackson	DE Marcellus Wiley	WR Quincy Morgan	CB Ronde Barber	DE Justin Smith
DE Aaron Smith	PK Olindo Mare	PK Jeff Wilkins	PK Adam Vinatieri	PK John Carney
DT John Henderson	CB Kwame Lassiter	DE Grant Winstrom	RB Eddie George	S Mike Minter





Philly	BW	DocNiner	DD/Cirrinone	DOLFAN
RB Shaun Alexander	RB Marshall Faulk	RB Travis Henry	RB Edgerrin James	RB Tiki Barber
RB Jamal Lewis	RB Corey Dillon	RB Ahman Green	WR Terrell Owens	WR Marvin Harrison
QB Daunte Culpepper	WR Joe Horn	QB Peyton Manning	WR Torry Holt	LB Zach Thomas
WR Peerless Price	LB LaVar Arrington	WR Plaxico Burress	RB Charlie Garner	RB William Green
LB Donnie Edwards	DE Dwight Freeney	LB Mike Peterson	QB Kurt Warner	WR Amani Toomer
S Adam Archuleta	WR Chad Johnson	DE John Abraham	DE Simeon Rice	WR Koren Robinson
LB Al Wilson	WR Derrick Mason	LB London Fletcher	DE Hugh Douglas	S Sammy Knight
S Ed Reed	DE Andre Carter	DE Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila	LB Takeo Spikes	DE Mike Rucker
WR Curtis Conway	S Mike Brown	WR Donte Stallworth	LB Joey Porter	DE Patrick Kerney
WR Rod Gardner	S Lance Schulters	WR Jerry Porter	CB Brian Kelly	LB Eric Barton
DE Greg Ellis	PK Jay Feely	S Mike Green	CB Bobby Taylor	S Robert Griffith
PK Martin Gramatica	QB Tommy Maddox	PK Jason Elam	PK Mike Vanderjagt	PK Sebastian Janikowski
DE Aaron Schobel	LB Anthony Simmons	S Coy Wire	WR Todd Pinkston	QB Jeff Garcia

« Last Edit: Jul 6^th, 2003, 11:55pm by Stegfucius »

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #1 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 12:16am »

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WAY TO KICK IT OFF, Tony! I think RW with the first pick overall is a GREAT pick. As I see it, and mind you I do not know IDP's for the purposes of fantasy football that well so I can only really speak intelligently here with regards to the offensive side of the ball, RW, ?? and ?? should be picks 1, 2 and 3 (though not necessarily in that order).

In any event, good luck to all you guys!

Do a good job and let's show 'em the kind of brains and savvy we got on "the Gridiron"!

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DOLFAN

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #2 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 1:26am »

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Great pick. RW will lead the league again this yr in rushing.
Whew. I'm glad you didn't take Barry Sanders i want him with my 14th round pick

« Last Edit: Jun 26^th, 2003, 2:19pm by DOLFAN »

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bgsgfan

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #3 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 8:33am »

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I am curious about everyone's draft strategy with regards to IDP leagues vs "regular" leagues.

Last year was the first time I took part in an IDP league. I normally draft using a variation of VBD, however for the IDP league I intentionally undervalued all defensive players because I hoped I would have a better handle on them than most and could find values. I must have been relatively right because I was the regular season champ - running away even.

Also, if anyone could point me in the direction of some IDP cheatsheets for this year I would be grateful. I have not done ANY homework on them yet this year and won't be able to until this weekend. I will do my part to keep this thing as legit as possible though.

Good luck everyone!

« Last Edit: Jun 17^th, 2003, 8:34am by bgsgfan »

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #4 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 8:44am »

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I usually play with Team Defense, but have played IDP in the past. I'm still trying to figure out their value using BW's scoring system as the one I used valued defense much less.

Anyway, I found a ranking of IDPs at the Sporting News site. Not sure I agree with their rankings, but it's there for your perusal...

http://fantasy.sportingnews.com/nfl/rankings/overall/

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #5 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 9:48am »

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on Jun 17^th, 2003, 8:44am, Philly wrote:

Thanks.

One other one to throw out there (gotta love answering own question - but maybe someone else is looking).

http://footballguys.com/03lbrank.cfm

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #6 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 1:24pm »

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Are we just doing one pick a day? At this rate we might be done by September... maybe...

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #7 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 1:29pm »

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We could do first round in first come first serve fashion - then snake based on that?

Also - I gave some picks to someone else just in case I wasn't around when my turn came up - might be a good idea for everyone to keep this thing going.

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #8 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 1:57pm »

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #9 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 2:10pm »

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Sometimes this happens. Some guys don't have access at work and some work LOOOOOONG hours, so who knows when the next guy will get here. I'm still here, but it is just a "mock." I too would like for it to go faster, but the site was down the other day for awhile do to the switch. That shouldn't affect anything, but ya never know. I know guys that work form 8am to 10pm and dont have access until late at nighth. Whereas another guys doesn't have home access. I'm still here. I think a 24 hr rule would be fine. then they get bumped like the Vikes. Just a suggestion.

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #10 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 3:03pm »

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FYI - It looks like they are looking for Jetdoc over at another board.

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Walker Boh

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #11 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 6:38pm »

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Just wanted to check in and let everyone know that I'm around and I'll be making my pick tonight after KJ gets rolling. Decisions, decisions...

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #12 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 8:40pm »

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Was really thinking hard of taking a shot at Ray Lewis, Urlacher or Derrick Brooks with the #3 pick, considering it looks like those three would score big with the defense points system, though, I'm a fan of Duece and I'm not going to pass him up, just to much upside.

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #13 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 9:15pm »

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I'm stoked! I would have taken Portis at #1 and I got him at 4! Yeah baby! I was thinking hard about Priest, but I just couldn't pull the trigger... you don't mess around that that 1st round pick.

As a rookie, Portis rushed for 1508 yards and scored 17 TD's, and did so while only starting 12 of the 16 games.

Had he started every game, he had a legitimate chance at the rushing title and an outside chance of leading the league in TD's. His 17 TD's were second to only Holmes' 24 and Alexander's 18, and I see nothing but greatness in his future.

Go Broncos!

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BarnabyWilde

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #14 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 9:53pm »

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The way this is panning out, like I thought it would, means I'll get either of the 2 guys I thought I'd end up with...I just hope that the person I want in round 2 is still there...

« Last Edit: Jun 17^th, 2003, 10:05pm by BarnabyWilde »

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #15 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 10:01pm »

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I like Duece, but think he went a bit early.

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #16 on: Jun 17^th, 2003, 10:06pm »

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Well, Philly made my pick easy,as I was either taking Alexander or Faulk.

So far, going according to plan, just not in the order I thought...

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #17 on: Jun 18^th, 2003, 8:19am »

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on Jun 17^th, 2003, 9:15pm, Walker Boh wrote:

Go Broncos!

Right now, I also am high on Portis - for the same reasons Walker mentions - and would have taken him at #1 also. However, I have to be pleased with Holmes at #5. If he is healthy he is the obvious #1. Thanks to BW for making my pick and keeping this thing moving.

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #18 on: Jun 18^th, 2003, 8:35am »

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Dare I say that Holmes at #5 is a gutsy pick? Hard to believe that the guy blew away all competitors last year and is such a question mark this year. He carried me to many victories last year (except when he sat out my Super Bowl because of injury) and I don't think I could have taken him with even my 1.06 pick...

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #19 on: Jun 18^th, 2003, 10:52am »

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Can you say run on RBs? WOW. Actually its not shocking. That's just how i figured it would go. Doesn't matter I still will get the guys i projected at my picks.

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #20 on: Jun 18^th, 2003, 12:58pm »

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IMPORTANT ADMINISTRATIVE NOTICE

Rosters are being maintained in the first post of this thread; Cheatsheets are being developed in the first post of the thread you make your picks on!

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #21 on: Jun 18^th, 2003, 3:17pm »

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Oh, boy, that took FOREVER! I, with the help of one of Razzak's posts in the past where he shows how to use tables, figured out how to make them.

For the purposes of looking over "Rosters", it looks A LOT nicer and neater and makes the teams WAY easier to compare; however, we get that big gap in the first post. I don't know what's up with that. I still like the layout WAY more for the purposes of analyzing and comparing "Rosters", but we are going to have to live with that gaping gap for now. As for the "Cheatsheets", I am going to leave them the way they are. "Cheatsheets" are presented vertically, in any case, and it is not like you need to compare the different groups, anyway.

:whew:

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #22 on: Jun 18^th, 2003, 4:05pm »

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So far, the draft has gone how I expected. A little out of order (i.e. Duece going #3 surprised me, since I usually see him go around #6).

I'm on vacation this week, and have been dealing with some medical issues for my family, so I'll try to check in as often as I can.

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #23 on: Jun 18^th, 2003, 8:03pm »

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Sorry for the delay guys in making my 2nd round pick. Since I work nights I just got outta bed at 7pm. I really didn't want to send a list with the first 2 rounds . So, if my pick is close I'll send a proxy list from now on to help keep it moving.

If guys are really interested in where defensive players are getting drafted I think you'd need to do a draft more than 13 rounds. A lot of real good defensive players are going after round 13. Most of those spots guys will fill up the offensive side of their roster. If you want the draft to go more rounds I'm fine with that.

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Re: BW's IDP Mock Draft Commentary
« Reply #24 on: Jun 18^th, 2003, 8:24pm »

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on Jun 18^th, 2003, 8:03pm, DocNiner52 wrote:

If guys are really interested in where defensive players are getting drafted I think you'd need to do a draft more than 13 rounds. A lot of real good defensive players are going after round 13. Most of those spots guys will fill up the offensive side of their roster. If you want the draft to go more rounds I'm fine with that.

I don't think we're drafting bench players in this mock... just one player per position as outlined by BarnabyWilde in the initial thread.

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