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the Bleachers
« on: Nov 6th, 2003, 6:55am » |
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the Bleachers
If you want to chat about anything under the sun besides football and without its having to be intertwined in a football-related conversation, such as other sports, baby announcements, cooking, pets, politics, economics, religion, philosophy, sex, chicks, books, whatever, etc., etc., as long as it is not covered by one of our other "thematic" threads like the "Happy Birthdays to our fellow Gridironers" thread or the "Get to know your Gridironers" threads, this "STICKY THREAD" is for you! Enjoy!
Link to the prior (in this case, the original) "the Bleachers" sticky thread:
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=58;a ction=display;num=1051295537.
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Re: the Bleachers
« Reply #1 on: Nov 7th, 2003, 2:55pm » |
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Okay, I'm going to kick this "the Bleachers" sticky thread off with something that has been having me shaking my head in puzzlement for quite some time. Do any of you watch any 24-hour news channels? If so, maybe even if not, you know that FOX News and CNN are basically "bitter" rivals. The former is considered the (first-ever) conservative news channel; whereas, the latter is the well-known historically liberal news channel (although they have somewhat come back to center post 9/11... but are starting to drift back way left). Anyway, I have NEVER in my life seen a show from one channel/network be advertised on another one, at least not a rivaling network of the same genre. So then, how is it that Anderson Cooper's show 360 on CNN has a commercial running on FOX?  Has anybody else out there noticed this? It runs a lot during the Hannity & Colmes show. I don't get it!  It's like CBS's having advertisements for Monday Night Football. It just "don't" make sense!
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Re: the Bleachers
« Reply #4 on: Nov 7th, 2003, 8:06pm » |
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on Nov 7th, 2003, 6:03pm, StegRock wrote:| Well, you'd think FOX (and any channel/network) would make sure to have a clause in their contracts with cable companies to avoid such a situation. I mean I've NEVER seen such a thing. You don't see CNN/SI getting plugged on ESPN. I mean I get what you're sayin', but it doesn't totally make sense. |
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I am not proud, but I am a frequent TV watcher. You see this all the time now. They are all owned by the same company. Viacom owns MTV, Cartoon Channel, CBS, VH1, etc..... You now see VH1 Commercials on MTV. MTV does the superbowl half time show for CBS.
The big conspiracy is that they are all owned by the German banks. 
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Re: the Bleachers
« Reply #5 on: Nov 7th, 2003, 8:09pm » |
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Changing the topic...
My wife and I don't get out much. With three kids under six, my work schedule and her being exhausted watching daycare kids all day along with ours, we just end up staying home, or have Noey21 and his wife over to play cards.
Tonight, we got a sitter to watch the kids so we can go to a movie. Problem is, we can't agree on what to see!!
She wants either Runaway Jury or Texas Chain Saw Masacre. I want Mystic River or Elf. The one movie we agree on, Scary Movie 3, starts too late for her. So, to compromise, we are going bowling... 
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Re: the Bleachers
« Reply #6 on: Nov 7th, 2003, 8:18pm » |
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on Nov 7th, 2003, 8:09pm, BarnabyWilde wrote:Changing the topic...
My wife and I don't get out much. With three kids under six, my work schedule and her being exhausted watching daycare kids all day along with ours, we just end up staying home, or have Noey21 and his wife over to play cards.
Tonight, we got a sitter to watch the kids so we can go to a movie. Problem is, we can't agree on what to see!!
She wants either Runaway Jury or Texas Chain Saw Masacre. I want Mystic River or Elf. The one movie we agree on, Scary Movie 3, starts too late for her. So, to compromise, we are going bowling...
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Enjoy bowling!! Hope you have fun! And there is nothing better than a good card game.
However, I recommend Mystic River.
It is a GREAT movie!!! As much as I hate Tim Robbins as a person, he was excellent in the movie. And for some unknown reason, I really like Kevin Bacon in movies. But, most importantly, it is a great story with a great ending.
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Re: the Bleachers
« Reply #7 on: Nov 7th, 2003, 8:23pm » |
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Enjoy rollin' tonight, BW! Bowling is a great sport, really. Big-time bowler here!  I've gotta' hammer this other issue out here, though...
on Nov 7th, 2003, 8:06pm, DirkDiggler wrote:I am not proud, but I am a frequent TV watcher. You see this all the time now. They are all owned by the same company. Viacom owns MTV, Cartoon Channel, CBS, VH1, etc..... You now see VH1 Commercials on MTV. MTV does the superbowl half time show for CBS.
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But, DD, I am almost certain that CNN and FOX are NOT owned by the same company. Correct me if I'm wrong. It's one thing with "music television" stations, but with news networks SO PITTED AGAINST ONE ANOTHER, it's whack! 
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Re: the Bleachers
« Reply #14 on: Nov 10th, 2003, 1:32pm » |
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on Nov 10th, 2003, 1:18pm, DirkDiggler wrote:
Dude--
VERY VERY brave of you to take a child to the movie. I have not been daring enough to do that.
At least you had a good time. Love Actually is one of those movies on our list for rental when it comes out on DVD.
My wife and I are going to the Matrix tomorrow. Despite all the bad reviews, I look forward to it. My son will be in day care. WHew hoo!! Parents day out!!
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Love Actually might be a better DVD movie than a big-screen movie. There are 10 different stories occurring simultaneously, so repeated viewings may help to sort out the characters a bit better. I'm also looking forward to the DVD to see what was edited out of the movie.
Anyway, my wife takes Darren (our son) to the movies every week when a local theatre has a "Reel Moms" promotion. They open the theatre at 10:00 AM and show a different movie each week (last week Mystic River, this week Elf...) and the entire theatre is filled with parents and their infants. Pretty good idea because everyone is in the same boat and is more tolerant (though etiquette still insists that criers need to leave until they are happy again). So she is familiar with how he reacts to movies... when he begins to fuss even a little bit, she feeds him and he generally falls asleep.
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Re: the Bleachers
« Reply #16 on: Nov 14th, 2003, 9:41pm » |
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I've got a good one for yous...
The New York City school system just passed a school "law" prohibiting cell phones in school, period and across the board because they are considered a distraction and an obstacle to the educational environment. I can "appreciate" that. Whether they are on or off, they are to be confiscated. How they will precisely go about that, I don't know, and though I am not sure where I stand on the issue (actually, more accurately put, I'm not sure if I even care to have a stance on the issue), the flaws in logic and common sense of those, the students and parents, fighting it is laughable and, well, indicative of a, well, very American brand of rationalization.
Those fighting it claim that the policy is not good because parents and their children lose their ability to contact each other (24-7, I guess  ), and they, moreover, argue that point in light of tragedies like 9/11 and the big '03 blackout. Well, the report(er) ignores the glaring question that is begged: What did we (all) used to do before cell phones, which was NOT long ago? So, we will too! Still, though, come on, kids and parents who are suckers for their kids, these kids ain't carrying around their cell phones so mommy and daddy can monitor them, quite the contrary. I would confidently venture that 90+% of the usage of kids' cell phones is to chat with their friends. Let's get real! Well, actually, that point was never made during the report, either. Of course, all the parents, like marionettes of their kids, pointed out the importance of their kids having their cell phones during tragedies, a premise that is flawed twofold. For one, so typical and yet so childish, these folks are arguing a day-to-day issue in terms of extremes. Come on, my kid needs his/her cell phone 365 days a year just in case another 9/11 happens.  Have you also equipped them with their terrorist survival pack? Of course, this is ignoring the fact that during tragedies, especially like 9/11, but also the '03 blackout, cell phones were not working (at least not reliably). This, too, was completely ignored in the report.
So, it's a pretty convincing case when only one side is broadcast... reported.
Whatever, I just get a laugh how people can convince themselves of the most silly of shit!
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Re: the Bleachers
« Reply #18 on: Nov 16th, 2003, 11:39am » |
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Yea, Noey, and the arguments against it that you guys would experience out in Cali, just given the locale, should be A LOT less, well, poingnant... weighty.
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Re: the Bleachers
« Reply #19 on: Nov 18th, 2003, 1:38am » |
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I can't stand the liberal media. It will be that which destroys our country if it is left unfettered...
On Nightline tonight, they reported on our (military's) efforts to quell renegade attacks on our soldiers in Iraq. First, they visit Tikrit, Sadam's hometown. Gee, that'll give us both sides of the coin. NOT! But, okay, this segment is about the casualties we're sustaining and you can't go to the "peaceful" areas (which do exist, though... up in the north and in the far south, but are rarely reported about). Those aren't the places we are sustaining casualties in. But, then, they go to a neighborhood in Baghdad where one of the residents "admits" that most of his neighbors are "Sadam loyalists" and that the Americans are being shot at "from all sides". As such, to fight back without just blowing shit up, our military performed a night house raid in the neighborhood. They claim it was a success, ferreting out dozens of anti-American renegade soldiers and their weapons. The following day they interview one of the residents of the neighborhood, remember an admittedly Sadam loyalist neighborhood, who tells them how, because of the raids, the Americans are now "more" hated in the neighborhood. Uh, duh! Sadam loyalists who we are pushing around. They are NOT going to "like" us, but that's not the point. The point is have they been diffused! Whatever, if they didn't do the raids and our boys were shot down in that neighborhood on that day, instead of ABC's being able to do interviews with the locals, they'd be reporting that.
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Then, they went on with a report on collateral damage, "innocent" Iraqi citizens who die in the crossfire. They close the show with a report about the soldiers from Fort Campbell who died in the blackhawk helicopter accident.
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Listen, you can hate the "stuffy" attitudes of many "conservatives" and you can hate FOX News, BUT at least their reports are cogent. On the other hand, the pervasive liberal media is all over the place (literally and figuratively); whatever subjectively makes sense at whatever given moment and fits their liberal agenda dictates what gets reported and how it gets reported.
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Re: the Bleachers
« Reply #21 on: Nov 18th, 2003, 9:52am » |
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Sometimes I think that a nationalist policy would be best. Let's not worry about other countries. Screw France, Israel, Palestine, Iraq, China, North Korea, Fiji, Florida (oops, that's one of ours)... whoever. Let them fend for themselves. All of the money that we send to (spend on) other countries could be better spent if it was put into our own infrastructure.
Unfortunately, that's not a realistic idea. The Middle East, left unchecked, is a pot boiling over. Saddam Hussein is not a reasonable person. He killed his own country's citizens if they so much as sneezed the wrong way. The treatment of women is disgraceful. Even if he didn't help to fund terrorism (which is still to be determined), he did nothing to discourage it. Does Saddam have ties to Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin-Laden? No one has proved that he hasn't.
Bush receives a great deal of criticism for his military action against Iraq without it being approved by the UN. Those critics will tell you that the main reason he put the focus on Iraq was to take the focus off the US economy and the Enron fiasco. But those same critics seem to have forgotten that Bill Clinton sent military forces into Bosnia without UN approval right around the time that his self-created scandals were heating up.
I think the original point here was that the media tends to be a bit too ambitious to find fault with the current administration's decisions and not to laud their good ones. What happened to the idea that the media was supposed to present an unbiased report of the events?
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Re: the Bleachers
« Reply #22 on: Nov 18th, 2003, 1:26pm » |
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Along the lines of what Philly says, the REAL goal with and the ULTIMATE determinations of the success of all our efforts these days are long-term and won't even be realized/known for at least 10 to 15 years and probably not REALLY for 25 to 50 years. History will be the judge... as it always is (as most of this kind of stuff is done by looking far down the road, lifetimes down the road, which your average people just looking around themselves can't comprehend).
If in 20 to 50 years we have succeeded with building a "South Korea" out of the rubble that is Iraq and Afganistan, we will have succeeded BIG-TIME. Two muslim nations basically on either side of the middle east joining modernity and becoming part of the rest of the modern world. HUGE SUCCESS! If it can be done in South Korea, it can be done in those places.
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Re: the Bleachers
« Reply #23 on: Nov 21st, 2003, 1:08pm » |
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Well, I started vacation this past Sunday. Three weeks off! Nice!
Started off with a little cleaning of the garage and getting all of the Christmas decorations out of the shed so the wife can go through them. Last night, went to the Simon and GArfunkle concert (my late father was a big fan, so I grew up on their music) It was a great show, they brought out the Everly Brothers for about four numbers, which was cool.
Now, I am going to  for five days with the family. It will be Mason (5) and Brady's (almost 4) second trip, and Emmas (14 months) first. Should be a blast!
Then, it's Thanksgiving, and then the Christmas decorations go up the following weekend.
So, I will be off the board for a few days. Everyone have a great Thanksgiving!!!
BW
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