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"3 Strike Ruling" on jimmyc
« on: Jan 20th, 2006, 1:21am » |
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This thread is where you can cast your vote on this issue and/or where I will report the tally of any votes sent to me privately.
The question is...
Should Jimmy Carver be removed from the league for breaking the "3 Strike Rule"?
The possible answers are...
1) Yes, he should be removed!
2) No, he should not be removed!
3) I ABSTAIN.
Here is how the votes will be tallied...
Like all GBRFL matters, the determination is made by a majority of those who voted "Yes" or "No". Abstentions, whether stated or due to failure to respond are completely removed from consideration. So, hypothetically, if five dudes abstained or just neglected to vote; three voted "Yes", and two voted "No", "Yes" would prevail.
Discussion may be conducted on this thread, BUT please make sure the casting of your vote is clear.
All votes are to be submitted and discussion is to close on this issue at 11:59 a.m. on Sunday, January 29th.
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Re: "3 Strike Ruling" on jimmyc
« Reply #6 on: Jan 20th, 2006, 2:17pm » |
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Ray hit the nail on the head from my perspective. The damage to this team may be irreperable w/o supplemental draft picks. It could take 5 years with a dedicated, committed owner to make it competitive again.
The week Pepp went down (the day the lights went out in Minny  ), I was efforting a trade to ensure I got the #1 FA pick so I could get BJ. Jimmy didn't want/need/care for the FA pick in our trade, and threw it in w/o any thought. As it is, I ended up with Warner & BJ, he got Stephen Davis, and the rest is history. I didn't know Davis was going to plummett like he did, so it's not like I tried to screw him, but if it were me, it would've take a LOT more to get that FA pick.
I don't have the history you guys do in this league, so I haven't had a front row seat to the demise of this team. But I'm invested going forward, and am really jazzed by this format. It takes 10 teams in a format like this to make the league stellar. We're operating with 9.
I vote for removing him.
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Re: "3 Strike Ruling" on jimmyc
« Reply #8 on: Jan 20th, 2006, 9:20pm » |
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on Jan 20th, 2006, 8:15pm, jimmyc wrote:| at this point i officially resign from GBRFL2. |
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Jim, this is a day late and a dollar short, bro. I mean... at this point (after you are already mathematically eliminated) this wasn't the "big" thing to do (anymore). As a matter of fact,... at this point it's kind of... cheese
Quote:| this team will be competitive next year and is not SHIT as some of you have proclaimed and will not take the 3-5 years to reach the next level as next year will prove. |
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This, I don't totally disagree with. I don't know about next year, but...
Quote:| the fact that i turned down CBFL is an issue unto itself and has no bearing on anything in this discussion - so much for icing on the cake. |
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Oh,... but it does, man! It may not be of "direct" significance to the limited scope of this vote, but it does speak loudly to the "bigger picture", which is ultimately most important. I mean the way this whole endgame played out, which involved my offering you the CBFL as an olive branch of sorts, does matter. You just left me hangin'. Common courtesy does matter. When you were owed absolutely nothing, I was frantically trying to contact you mainly in an effort to keep you "in 'the Gridiron' fold" and extend that gift to you. You did not even let me do it. Your course of action resulted in the twarting of a kind action directed toward you. That does matter! You exhibited a pattern of behavior that this endgame was just further corroboration of. It all "matters" and is worth reflecting on...
Quote:| as far as my trades or lack there of: ill take s. davis for k.warner plus an FA pick anyday. |
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This is a tricky one, bro. Your claiming this is actually proof in the pudding. I mean in a vacuum I don't totally disagree with you. But, in the GBRFL context... If you can read between the lines, the bigger point being made is that because you simply weren't using your #1 free-agent picks, you weren't valuing them nearly to the degree that they should be in the GBRFL context. That potentially made you exploitable in a way that affects league balance. That's the insidious snowball effect a non-participating, not clued-in owner has.
Quote:| thanks again steg for letting me participate in the league. |
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You're welcome. But, I wish it didn't have to come to this.
Quote:| dont be surprised if i post a comment or two... |
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Understand, though, all things considered, that we probably won't be holding our collective breath on this one. 
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In any event, best of luck...
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Re: "3 Strike Ruling" on jimmyc
« Reply #10 on: Jan 20th, 2006, 10:37pm » |
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Jamo,... the rest... fine. BUT, this...
on Jan 20th, 2006, 9:26pm, Walker Boh wrote:| Jimmy, I'm glad that you finally put an end to this. |
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...come on, bro. At the point of his post, he had already been voted out (the last three dudes' votes couldn't change a thing).
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Re: "3 Strike Ruling" on jimmyc
« Reply #12 on: Jan 20th, 2006, 11:36pm » |
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on Jan 20th, 2006, 10:40pm, BarnabyWilde wrote:| I am more interested in the naming of jimmy's replacement. |
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That's not going to be for A WHILE, based on a number of factors, not the least of which is the fact that I don't want to deal with it until I have the time to deal with it properly. I have a process I want to implement, which is going to incorporate you guys, but is going to be time-consuming (like this was on me; for you, BW, it's a couple sentences and out; for me,... it's an ordeal; so, it's a little easier for you to give the sanctimonious "move on" spiel).
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Re: "3 Strike Ruling" on jimmyc
« Reply #13 on: Jan 20th, 2006, 11:44pm » |
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on Jan 20th, 2006, 11:36pm, StegRock wrote:
That's not going to be for A WHILE, based on a number of factors, not the least of which is the fact that I don't want to deal with it until I have the time to deal with it properly. |
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I figured as much. Wishful thinking on my part. 
Quote:| I have a process I want to implement, which is going to incorporate you guys, but is going to be time-consuming (like this was on me; for you, BW, it's a couple sentences and out; for me,... it's an ordeal; so, it's a little easier for you to give the sanctimonious "move on" spiel). |
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I know. I like short answers;you on the other hand, would only get to one question on the final round of Family Feud, since there is only a 20 second time limit!
And I would not trade spots with you for anything...except maybe a GBRFL2 championship.
Keep up the good work Steggie. 
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Re: "3 Strike Ruling" on jimmyc
« Reply #14 on: Jan 21st, 2006, 1:09am » |
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on Jan 20th, 2006, 10:37pm, StegRock wrote:Jamo,... the rest... fine. BUT, this...
...come on, bro. At the point of his post, he had already been voted out (the last three dudes' votes couldn't change a thing). |
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Would it have been better if he never came back at all? I know he could have handled this situation much better, but at least he did the right thing in the end. He apologized, admitted he was wrong, and thanked you for allowing him to play. I respect that.
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Re: "3 Strike Ruling" on jimmyc
« Reply #15 on: Jan 21st, 2006, 2:07am » |
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on Jan 21st, 2006, 1:09am, Walker Boh wrote:| Would it have been better if he never came back at all? I know he could have handled this situation much better, but at least he did the right thing in the end. He apologized, admitted he was wrong, and thanked you for allowing him to play. I respect that. |
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Jamo, first of all, take a deep breath... I said, "The rest is fine." It was your specific statement: "Jimmy, I'm glad that you finally put an end to this," that I object to and was VERY disappointing to me. He was already voted out when he "resigned", for Christ's sake. This particular element, the timing of his "bowing out", which, mind you, is a bit of an overriding element, remains lame, period. The rest is,... well,... cordial. But, what if the vote was kind of close-ish? Granted, he may have done the same thing. But, that begs the question. Maybe he wouldn't have. The bottom line is he didn't. And, "after the fact" statements pale in comparison to "proactively stepping up", and even come off as passive-aggressive (even if it's not). It just makes the sentiments more hollow, man. ... I mean,... sure,... Jamo,... I guess what he did is better than nothing, BUT to go as far as to give HIM credit for "finally putting this to an end",...  COME ON!!! Nothing was put to an end until the writing was on the wall and after I was forced to dump HOURS and HOURS of time dealing with it (in the most just manner possible).
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