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EAGLES Offseason Report
« on: Feb 21st, 2003, 11:42am »
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Well, the big news of the day is that Hugh Douglas did not get tagged.  Sources close to the situation indicate that the Eagles want Douglas, and Douglas wants to return to the Eagles, so the Eagles chose not to upset their star DE with a tag.  My guess is that it is about 50/50 that he will return.  The Eagles will be making more of an effort to bring him back now that DE Derrick Burgess underwent yet another surgery on his foot.  If Douglas leaves via FA, look for the Eagles to address the position in the draft (first or second round) or possibly by pursuing Vonnie Holliday.
 
The other FA who the Eagles are targeting is Shawn Barber.  The Eagles signed him to a one-year contract in last year's FA period (due to a serious injury in 2001).  He showed no ill effects from the injury and is looking to cash in this year.  The Eagles are likely to re-sign him to a longer deal.
 
FA Brian Mitchell (who I feel may have been the team MVP last year) wants to return to the Eagles.  Mitchell played last year for the veteran minimum.  It now seems likely that the Eagles will turn the return duties over to 2nd year players Brian Westbrook and Lito Sheppard.  Unfortunately Brian Mitchell appears to be gone.
 
FA punter Sean Landeta had a tremendous year until he suffered an injury late in the year.  He recovered quickly enough to be ready for the playoffs, but was placed on IR, eliminating his chance of coming back in 02.  The Eagles recently signed FA punter Dirk Johnson to a 3-year tender.  Johnson, a former college safety, is unproven in the NFL, but the length of the deal indicates that Landeta is gone.
 
The Eagles did sign FA long-snapper, back-up TE Mike Bartrum to a 5-year deal.  Bartrum is widely recognized as the best long-snapper in the league.
 
I'll bring you more when it comes available.  
 
 
 
 
 
Edited to change topic name and put a Turkey as the message icon.  This offseason has certainly been a turkey for the Eagles fans.
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Re: EAGLES Free Agent News
« Reply #1 on: Feb 21st, 2003, 5:43pm »
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Here's hoping it was a mistake for them to not tag Hugh. How serious, i.e.  , the Chiefs are I'm not sure, but word here is that Vermeil is heade to Philly immediately after the combine to talk to Hugh. Come on, you can spare him.
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« Reply #2 on: Feb 21st, 2003, 10:49pm »
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I kept looking at the Eagles website, KFFL, and other locations to see if they were gonna tag Douglas.  As an Eagles fan, I am very concerned they didn't.  I know that they wanted to keep relations amicable, but now he can fuck them up the ass.  I can see Hugh saying now..."Oh yea, I want to be an Eagle as long as I get 8 mil a year, wear a Chiefs uniform, and never have to play in the Vet again."  (sarcasim intended)
 
The Eagles are in deep poopoo if they don't make some good defensive signings this offseason.  Losing Barber and Douglas will hurt.  I guess they know what their doing.  However this is the second year in a row they let their star defensive player get away because they were afraid to strain relations by using their tag.  
 
Ok, enough bitterness for now.....
 
 
On a positive note, maybe they will bring the Ex-Raven/Texan Lewis in to replace Mitchell.
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« Reply #3 on: Feb 21st, 2003, 11:05pm »
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I wouldn't count on Jermaine Lewis coming in.  The veteran salary would be much more than Brian Westbrook is slated to get and they feel he can do an adequate job returning.
 
I think by not slapping the tag on Douglas, they were trying to avoid the anger that Trotter felt when they did slap the tag on him last year.
 
Anyway, middle linebacker is another serious issue.  Levon could come back for another year because he won't get any interest on the FA market - but there's a reason for that.  Barry Gardner has shown that he is not able to be the MLB they need.
 
Let's hope we can find a home for Al Harris.  It would be nice to package him with a 1st rounder to move up into the top 20.
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« Reply #4 on: Feb 22nd, 2003, 11:19am »
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I think the Eagles are being smart. I think they learned from the Trotter incident last year. If they slap a tag on Douglas he would get pissed and would almost surely not be back. I think Douglas will be an Eagle again next year. They will need him! Does anyone know if they are seriously considering making a run at Boston or Price. I am not sold on Price, but they desperately need help at the WR position. I don't think Andy Reid will make a run at Boston because of his off the field issues. He is just not an Andy Reid kind of guy. Without upgrading the WR corp, I don't know if they can make it to the Super Bowl with the same unit. But, I don't know if Price is good enough to help, or was he just benefitiing from Moulds on the other side of him. I think they really need to look at middle linebacker as well.
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« Reply #5 on: Feb 22nd, 2003, 10:05pm »
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The more I listen to the "experts" the less confident I feel about Douglas returning.  Seems Seattle may be in the market for him and Ray Rhodes is the one who brought him to Philly in the first place.  Plus Seattle has some cap room to play with.  I'd change my odds of Douglas returning to about 30/70 against.
 
Unless the Eagles front office is using a poker face I've never seen them use before, I don't think they see a problem with receiver.  I would love for them to pick up Curtis Conway (since David Boston is not the character player Andy Reid insists upon).  A middle linebacker would be sweet too and there are some out there (Shelton Quarles, Chris Claiborne, Wali Ranier, Takeo Spikes?).
 
I think if the Eagles lose Douglas, then Vonnie Holliday is a likely target for the Eagles.
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 24th, 2003, 8:56am »
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Bah... here we go again.     According to a report from Shawn Barber's agent, talks have broken down between the Eagles and Barber.  The agent feels there is no chance that Barber will return now.
 
Looks like the Eagles got their new stadium and tons of money from the personal seat licenses and are willing to let the team fall apart in the name of low payrolls.
 
I'm not happy about the situation already.  420-Fudd, I may be jumping on the Chief bandwagon early this year!
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« Reply #7 on: Feb 26th, 2003, 10:59am »
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Here's the latest scoop - gleaned from the Gridiron Newsstand vaults...
 
http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/5264354.htm
 
It now looks like the Eagles are making a push for Douglas, and not for Barber.  Although Barber's agent has backed off his stance that there was zero chance of Barber returning next year.
 
Looks like the Eagles will try to sign Douglas before Free Agency begins (the Eagles also have a fan-forum tonite, so a Douglas signing would make those fans much happier - incentive???) and will allow Barber to test the market to see if he can get a better deal than the Eagles.
 
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 26th, 2003, 3:02pm »
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Hot off the presses...
 
> For Immediate Release
> Wednesday, February 26, 2003
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> The Philadelphia Eagles today announced that they have re-signed QB Koy
> Detmer to a four-year contract. As is club policy, terms of the deal  were
> not announced.
 
 
Sorry Steg, can't say I found this one on the Gridiron Newsstand.  This was a press release directly from the Eagles... I have my sources.  
 
I had a feeling there would be a signing today because of the forum tonight (see previous post) - didn't think it would be Detmer though...
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 26th, 2003, 3:10pm »
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It is NOW available on the Eagles website, courtesy of the GRIDIRON NEWSSTAND...
 
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/store/news_features/theTopStory.asp?
 
I did beat the official site by 4 minutes on this news flash!  
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 26th, 2003, 4:58pm »
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Wow....I sure would be excited to go to this fan forum.  They signed a guy who won ONE game.  WOW!!!!
 
I STILL think it is a debacle they did not tag Hugh Douglas.  Being a good guy does not always pay off.  I personally am a fan of what Buffalo did.   Eagles keep getting screwed.
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« Reply #11 on: Mar 1st, 2003, 1:25pm »
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Alright.....this is probably the wrong place for this, but it is killing me to watch the Redskins getting so many free agents and Trung Canidate in one day while the Eagles are apparently doing nothing.  When I say nothing, they are not tagging free agents, they are not signing anyone(Detmer does not count as someone), and appear to not be interested in having any of the top free agents even visiting.  
 
And the thing that set me off was seeing this quote:
 
With Thomas and ex-San Francisco guard Fiore, the Redskins addressed a position that has been a liability for several years. The team has started 14 guards over the last three seasons.  
 
The Redskins now will have one of the best offensive lines in the NFL in Steve Spurrier's second year as coach. They already have two top-notch tackles, Chris Samuels and Jon Jansen.

 
To see the whole article goto:
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/news/2003/03/01/redskins_signi ngs_ap/
 
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And now I read this:
 
http://www.pennlive.com/eagles/times/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1046516557 137890.xml
 
The title says it all:
 
Eagles Douglas Walks
 
And to think they could have tagged him.  To think they could of tagged and traded him.  To think the Eagles have been dumb enough to do this two years in a row!!!  AHHHHHH!  I am PISSED!!!
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on Feb 24th, 2003, 8:56am, Philly wrote:
Bah... here we go again.     According to a report from Shawn Barber's agent, talks have broken down between the Eagles and Barber.  The agent feels there is no chance that Barber will return now.
 
Looks like the Eagles got their new stadium and tons of money from the personal seat licenses and are willing to let the team fall apart in the name of low payrolls.
 
I'm not happy about the situation already.  420-Fudd, I may be jumping on the Chief bandwagon early this year!

 
Appears we've signed Barber. 7 year deal reportedly. On to Douglas. Although I don't know how serious they are now.
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« Reply #14 on: Mar 3rd, 2003, 1:41pm »
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The Eagles are well on their way to claiming the "Most Available Money Under the Cap" trophy for a 4th straight year.
 
Shawn Barber to the Chiefs and Brian Mitchell to the (ouch) Giants.
 
Read all about it...
 
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/store/news_features/theTopStory.asp?
 
The funny part is how Dave Spadaro (editor of Eagles digest and online editor for philadelphiaeagles.com) also writes a story explaining that Eagles fans should just trust that the Eagles brain-trust (??) knows what it is doing.  Nothing quite like being pissed off at the organization AND having to listen to their propaganda.
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« Reply #15 on: Mar 4th, 2003, 9:56am »
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Eagles trade a 4th and a 6th round pick to Atlanta for LB Marc Simoneau.
 
Yes, I said it too... "Who?"
 
They can't give Brian Mitchell, a guy who has busted his butt for the Eagles for 3 years now, a $500,000 signing bonus, but they'll give this Simoneau guy a $1.5 million signing bonus despite the fact he has done Jack in the NFL.
 
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Philly, the local radio satation here just had a lengthy interview with a gal Rita Hughes, of WIP radio. Covered alot of Barber & Hughs and Eagles "state of the union" type stuff. I feeling your pain, more and more. They even got into a little Paul Brown and ended with some mutual Paul Byrd bashing. If they make a transcript available I'll let you know.
 
Side note. Rita sounds like she knows her stuff. I was  
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« Reply #17 on: Mar 4th, 2003, 5:52pm »
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It's Rhea Hughes... and yes, she does know her stuff.  She's pretty hot too!  She is on the WIP morning show every day.
 
It has been very painful here in Philly so far.  But I guess we go through this almost every year.
 
I'll be in Las Vegas in a few weeks and I'm going to put some money on my bet for the next Super Bowl champ... the Chefs.  
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Woo! Hoo! You heard it here first folks!  
 
 
Douglas is due in town tonight, sans agent, and the guess is, he'll take the Chief's and Seahawks' {his next stop} offers back to let Philly at least have a shot.
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Douglas is due to vist the Giants tomorrow as well.
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on Mar 4th, 2003, 6:07pm, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Douglas is due to vist the Giants tomorrow as well.

 
The local guy and the Phiily gal both agreed that the Giants have almost no shot.  Hardly an authoritive source, but that's what was said.  
 
He's far from a lock in KC, but if judging by Barbers words and entusiasm, gotta think the Chiefs have the inside edge. Has much of, if any of Barber's interview seen air time outside the KC market?
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I don't think Simeonau(?) was even a starter. Er... maybe he was but only because Atlanta ran the 3-4 Defense.
 
To be honest, I have no clue what in the hell Philadelphia is doing. Atleast their offense is in tact, but, their defense, which has been a catalyst for them, is being dismantled...
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My predictions on the Eagles being total idiots are coming true.  Reid actually had the nerve to name Simeoneau a starter today.   This is what you get when your coach is a GM.  Bring back a full time GM!!!!  
 
To think the Eagles could have used a tag..............
 
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The local guy and the Phiily gal both agreed that the Giants have almost no shot.   Hardly an authoritive source, but that's what was said.  
 
He's far from a lock in KC, but if judging by Barbers words and entusiasm, gotta think the Chiefs have the inside edge. Has much of, if any of Barber's interview seen air time outside the KC market?

 
I thought the Giants were going to seriously look at Hugh and release Holmes if they got him, thus making cap room.
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« Reply #23 on: Mar 5th, 2003, 9:13am »
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I'd lay 2-1 odds that Douglas ends up in Seattle.  I think he still has visits with the Broncos and Raiders in his immediate plans.
 
I haven't seen/heard the Barber interview, but I haven't been watching much TV in the past few days...  He say anything interesting?  Or is it the usual, "I'm so happy to be here mumbo-jumbo"?
 
Marc Simoneau has started about 8 or 9 games for the Falcons over the past THREE years.  I guess since Jim Johnson (Eagles D-Coord) is now the highest paid assistant coach in the NFL, they're going to make him earn that money...
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on Mar 5th, 2003, 9:13am, Philly wrote:

I haven't seen/heard the Barber interview, but I haven't been watching much TV in the past few days...  He say anything interesting?  Or is it the usual, "I'm so happy to be here mumbo-jumbo"?

 
Plentty of the oh so happy to be here and here is a link to the signing press conference. *attgnlny* http://www.kcchiefs.com/news_article.asp?ID=BNWVIPUPV2I7RB6IAC2PARX84W
 
It was even more obvious in the radio interview he did later that I don't have any links to, but Shawn strikes me as someone convinced that Hugh is going to be here.  At a minimum, he certainly wants Hugh here.
 
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