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EAGLES - Week 8 Analysis
« on: Oct 24th, 2003, 5:13pm »
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This Sunday is a battle of the Green.  The Eagles and Jets face off for only the seventh time in NFL history.  The Eagles have never lost to the Jets in the regular season and have not played the Jets in Philadelphia since 1978, when Harold Carmichael caught two touchdowns and blocked an extra point attempt for good measure.  Herman Edwards, now head coach of the Jets, was an Eagles starting cornerback in that game.
 
The Jets come into the game having won their last two games after opening the season with four straight losses.  Their offense has struggled on offense scoring only 94 points.  They've managed only one rushing touchdown this season.  Their defense, while giving up lots of yards to opposing runners, has kept teams out of the endzone and has shut down the opposing passing games.
 
The Eagles, whose offensive struggles are well-documented, have actually scored one more point this season than the Jets.  Their rushing offense is one of the better ones in the league, while their pass offense has been deplorable.  The Eagles have been hit hard by injuries this season on defense, but have still performed well.  They've shut the door on opposing rushing games, but have allowed some yards through the air.
 
The Jets look to get a lift as Chad Pennington will play this week for the first time since breaking the wrist on his non-throwing arm.  He won't start the game, but will enter the game sometime during the first half.  The Eagles hope that rookie first-round draft pick Jerome McDougle could see his first regular-season action this week.
 
I imagine this will be yet another low-scoring game with the Eagles just doing enough to pull out a win and remain unbeaten against the Jets.
 


 
QB:
McNabb started well last week, completing his first 5 passes for 45 yards on a TD drive.  After that he fell apart again.  Reid has indicated that McNabb will only be pulled if his injury necessitates it.  If McNabb struggles into the third quarter, look for his thumb to suddenly begin to hurt.
 
McNabb: 16-28 170 yards, 1 TD, 5 carries-24 yards, 1 FL

 


 
RB:
Brian Westbrook was the hero in the latest Miracle at the Meadowlands installment.  Despite being listed as questionable, he carried the load and more.  He is clearly the number one option on offense now and is even more dangerous a weapon than McNabb.
 
Westbrook: 18 carries-104 yards, 1 TD, 3 catches-22 yards
Staley: 4 carries-19 yards, 2 catches-12 yards
Buckhalter: 4 carries-13 yards

 


 
WR:
The WRs had a grand total of one catch between them last week.  We also saw the introduction of Greg Lewis (the fastest of the WRs and also an undrafted free agent) in the lineup.  Look for continued experimentation amongst the WRs to find some sort of lineup that can get open.
 
Pinkston: 3 catches-35 yards, 1 TD
Thrash: 2 catches-29 yards, 1 carry-8 yards
Mitchell: 3 catches-26 yards

 


 
TE:
LJ Smith had the only big play in the passing game last week.  Look for him to continue to improve, when given the opportunities (i.e., a pass anywhere near him).
 
Smith: 2 catches-25 yards
Lewis: 1 catches-8 yards

 


 
K:
Akers has yet to miss a FG, but has only had 6 opportunities.
 
Akers: 2-2 XP, 2-2 FG

 


 
Defense:
The defense should be able to put some pressure on Testaverde and force him to throw the ball away a bit.  Pennington will also feel some pressure and still isn't game-ready yet.
 
Defense: 13 points allowed, 35 rush yards allowed, 240 pass yards allowed, 1 INTs, 1 FR, 4 sacks

 


 
FINAL SCORE:
Jets 13
Eagles 20

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Re: EAGLES - Week 8 Analysis
« Reply #1 on: Oct 24th, 2003, 9:58pm »
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Nice analysis.
 
I hope the Eagles WR get more balls thrown their way.
 
I also hope McNabb gets 17 completions.  I somehow picture him with 11 or 12.  I don't see him emerging from his slump this week.  
 
I am curious about Lewis's emergence as a WR.  Speed does a receiver not make.(that is what Yoda would say.)  
 
And on a personal note, I do not like LJ Smith.  He has not impressed me at all.  I think the Eagles should get a better TE this offseason.
 
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« Reply #2 on: Oct 24th, 2003, 10:03pm »
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on Oct 24th, 2003, 9:58pm, DirkDiggler wrote:
Nice analysis.
 
I hope the Eagles WR get more balls thrown their way.
 
I also hope McNabb gets 17 completions.  I somehow picture him with 11 or 12.  I don't see him emerging from his slump this week.  
 
I am curious about Lewis's emergence as a WR.  Speed does a receiver not make.(that is what Yoda would say.)  
 
And on a personal note, I do not like LJ Smith.  He has not impressed me at all.  I think the Eagles should get a better TE this offseason.
 

 
I wouldn't expect too much from McNabb, but I think he will be a little better than last week.  I think the Jets are so poor against the run that the Eagles will be able to sneak some pass plays through.
 
As far as Lewis, I'm not a fan... he was undrafted for a reason.  I think they were just trying to shake things up a bit, although I'd like to see Mitchell at the one, Pinkston at the two, and McMullen in the slot.  That might be a workable combo.
 
Finally, I actually think LJ Smith has a HUGE upside.  He's been slow to start this season, but by next season he will clearly be the #1 and I think he'll really start to produce then.
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RB:  
Brian Westbrook was the hero in the latest Miracle at the Meadowlands installment.  Despite being listed as questionable, he carried the load and more.  He is clearly the number one option on offense now and is even more dangerous a weapon than McNabb.  
 
Westbrook: 18 carries-104 yards, 1 TD, 3 catches-22 yards

 
 
  I hope so! I have to start hin this week
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I wonder what Duce Staley thinks of his fucking hold out now?
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on Oct 24th, 2003, 5:13pm, Philly wrote:
QB:
McNabb started well last week, completing his first 5 passes for 45 yards on a TD drive.  After that he fell apart again.  Reid has indicated that McNabb will only be pulled if his injury necessitates it.  If McNabb struggles into the third quarter, look for his thumb to suddenly begin to hurt.
 
McNabb: 16-28 170 yards, 1 TD, 5 carries-24 yards, 1 FL

 
Actual: 17-23 141 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 2 carries-18 yards
McNabb played well yesterday.  The running game was going full-bore, which gave McNabb time to find his receivers.  He still isn't hitting any long passes, but the completion percentage was up dramatically and mistakes were down.



 
RB:
Brian Westbrook was the hero in the latest Miracle at the Meadowlands installment.  Despite being listed as questionable, he carried the load and more.  He is clearly the number one option on offense now and is even more dangerous a weapon than McNabb.
 
Westbrook: 18 carries-104 yards, 1 TD, 3 catches-22 yards
Staley: 4 carries-19 yards, 2 catches-12 yards
Buckhalter: 4 carries-13 yards

 
Actual:
Westbrook: 5 carries-25 yards, 2 catches-16 yards
Staley: 9 carries-47 yards
Buckhalter: 15 carries-100 yards, 2 TDs
Buckhalter left the game in the first half with an ankle injury, opening the door for Buckhalter who had already taken one TD from Westbrook.  Buckhalter ran the ball very well, as did Staley when he had the opportunity.  The Eagles RBs all averaged 5 yards a carry or more.



 
WR:
The WRs had a grand total of one catch between them last week.  We also saw the introduction of Greg Lewis (the fastest of the WRs and also an undrafted free agent) in the lineup.  Look for continued experimentation amongst the WRs to find some sort of lineup that can get open.
 
Pinkston: 3 catches-35 yards, 1 TD
Thrash: 2 catches-29 yards, 1 carry-8 yards
Mitchell: 3 catches-26 yards

 
Actual:
Pinkston: 2 catches-23 yards
Thrash: 4 catches-23 yards, 1 carry-4 yards
Mitchell: 2 catches-29 yards
The receivers certainly had a better week than the one previous, but they still are not getting the ball consistently and when they do, it is generally for short 5-10 yard gains.  The WRs have still not found the endzone this season.  Freddie Mitchell has been getting open across the middle and deep, but doesn't get the ball thrown his way enough.



 
TE:
LJ Smith had the only big play in the passing game last week.  Look for him to continue to improve, when given the opportunities (i.e., a pass anywhere near him).
 
Smith: 2 catches-25 yards
Lewis: 1 catch-8 yards

 
Actual:
Smith: 3 catches-32 yards
Lewis: 1 catch-8 yards
Chad Lewis caught the first pass of the game and then disappeared for the rest of the contest.  LJ Smith is developing as more of a threat in the offense.



 
K:
Akers has yet to miss a FG, but has only had 6 opportunities.
 
Akers: 2-2 XP, 2-2 FG

 
Actual: 3-3 XP, 1-2 FG
The big news here is that Akers actually got a FG attempt (his first in 13 quarters) and missed it.  Of course it was a 55 yarder.  He made his other FG attempt (30 yards) with ease.



 
Defense:
The defense should be able to put some pressure on Testaverde and force him to throw the ball away a bit.  Pennington will also feel some pressure and still isn't game-ready yet.
 
Defense: 13 points allowed, 35 rush yards allowed, 240 pass yards allowed, 1 INTs, 1 FR, 4 sacks

 
Actual: 17 points allowed, 125 rush yards allowed, 266 pass yards allowed, 1 INT, 1 FR, 2 sacks
The defense allowed many more rushing yards than was expected, but was able to keep the Jets at bay with timely plays and takeaways.



 
FINAL SCORE:
Jets 13
Eagles 20

 
Actual:
Jets 17
Eagles 24
The Eagles remain undefeated in the regular season against the Jets.  I have a feeling that the Jets would have won this game if Vinny Testaverde had remained in the game as QB.  Pennington certainly looked good, but made some mistakes that he might not have had he not been seeing his first action since pre-season.


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« Reply #6 on: Oct 27th, 2003, 2:46pm »
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Nice job Philly!  
 
Analysis was very close to actuals.  I enjoy seeing how close we can predict the outcome, as well as the general flow and strategy of the games.  You hit this one pretty dead on!
 
 
Congrats on a much needed win for the Eagles, especially since my Vikes laid a big fat one in the 'dome this weekend!
 
 
GO VIKES!  Bring on the Cheeseheads!
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Latest updates...
 
Eagles RB Brian Westbrook suffered a high ankle sprain on his left leg.  He will probably be listed as doubtful for the game against Atlanta.  Grab Buckhalter now if you can.  He ran the ball well against the Jets and has a nose for the endzone.  The Falcons are very weak on defense and Buck could have another big day.
 
Eagles DT Hollis Thomas tore a bicep in the game yesterday, will have surgery tomorrow, and is lost for the season.  Thomas was having a career year after missing the past two seasons with foot injuries.  He lost a great deal of weight between the spring minicamp and the pre-season and showed increased speed and quickness.  The Eagles are already thin on D-line with Burgess, Green, and Grasmanis out for the year and McDougle still recovering from a pre-season injury.  The Eagles will look to sign a warm body to put into the D-line rotation.
 
Eagles OG Jermaine Mayberry (Pro-Bowler in 2002) has been placed on the IR with an elbow injury.  The Eagles signed Kevin Dogins to back up Bobbie Williams and John Welbourn at the guard position.
 
Still no ETA on the return of Jerome McDougle or Brian Dawkins.  Bobby Taylor is still having problems with a foot strain and is day-to-day.
 
Eagles have been VERY fortunate the past few years not to get hit with injuries.  I think it all caught up with them this season.
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In my yahoo league we start 4 defensive players.  Do you think Darwin Walker would be a good pick-up?  I've seen a few Eagles games lately & he seems to be in on every play.  The starting CBs for Minn are also available.
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[quote author=Philly link=board=55;num=1067030016;start=0#7 date=10/27/03 at 15:02:05]Latest updates...
 
Eagles RB Brian Westbrook suffered a high ankle sprain on his left leg.  He will probably be listed as doubtful for the game against Atlanta.  Grab Buckhalter now if you can.  He ran the ball well against the Jets and has a nose for the endzone.  The Falcons are very weak on defense and Buck could have another big day.
 
Grab Buckhalter now????? Did you see what Steg said when I suggested Dominic Davis? Be careful what you say dammit!
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on Oct 27th, 2003, 5:06pm, steelkings wrote:
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Eagles RB Brian Westbrook suffered a high ankle sprain on his left leg.  He will probably be listed as doubtful for the game against Atlanta.  Grab Buckhalter now if you can.  He ran the ball well against the Jets and has a nose for the endzone.  The Falcons are very weak on defense and Buck could have another big day.
 
Grab Buckhalter now????? Did you see what Steg said when I suggested Dominic Davis? Be careful what you say dammit!

 
Someone is a little bitter.  I thought we GAINED an hour of sleep this weekend??  
 
And yes, GRAB BUCKHALTER.  Westbrook should be out a few weeks and BUCKHALTER should be the man.
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Diggy,
Im not bitter. I just have a sour , bile like taste in my mouth from being bitch slapped by you and Steg this afternoon for throwing around the name Davis. For you geography buffs. I live in Indiana. We dont ever change time.
 
One day I too will be able to use names like Buckhalter and be loved by everyone too!
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Im not bitter. I just have a sour , bile like taste in my mouth from being bitch slapped by you and Steg this afternoon for throwing around the name Davis. For you geography buffs. I live in Indiana. We dont ever change time.
 
One day I too will be able to use names like Buckhalter and be loved by everyone too!

 
Bitch slapped?  My post was rather tame.  You need a little tougher skin if you felt I bitch slapped you.  And just to not hurt your feelings, I won't make any your momma jokes.  
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Steelkings, surely you must realize that Buckhalter is (was?) available in more than a few leagues if you have smallish rosters and not too many teams.
 
I know many leagues have owners who were very wary of the Eagles RBBC early in the season, and when they finally decided to go with an Eagles back for their roster, it was probably Westbrook.
 
I grabbed Buck off waivers in a Yahoo league earlier today.  If you felt that I was being condescending or anything (as you felt compelled to rip my Eagles analysis and it's lack of popularity in another thread despite no provocation from me) then maybe you should address that issue separately and privately.
 
I am trying to provide some good advice here - even if it's not always accurate, it is always with the other owners' success in mind.  Clearly Duce Staley is the more known back in Philly, and he averaged more than 5 yards a carry yesterday, but I felt that his lack of involvement in the red zone meant that Reid had more confidence in Buck's ability to get into the endzone (despite some battles with fumbilitis).
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« Reply #15 on: Oct 28th, 2003, 12:26am »
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Humph...  I am just seeing the "extended version" of this thread now for the first time.  Interesting!  ...
 
Anyway, thanks, Phil, for consolidating and incorporating your Buckhalter update/recommendation on this thread.  It surely did not necessitate a thread of its own.  This was an appropriate place to put it.
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You guys are as sensitive as a babys butt rash. I like the Eagles . Im a western PA transplant. I lke the Steelers ,Pitt Panthers,The lions of Penn State, The 76ers,  Ect,Ect Ect. There is an alliance through out the state of P.A. As goofy as I am , I even like Bulger because he's anouther good Pennsylvania QB. I also enjoy the Eagles Analysis. I truly think its cool that you spend the time to do it. as I am as a Steeler fan, im sure its frustrating to be the fan of an underachiving team. Its even More frustrating for me when I have Staley on my roster.  
Perhaps My ribbing is out of line. Perhaps its just not exceptable from someone out of the nitch. Either way I didnt mean it as a pesonal insult. If its taken that way. My bad.
I was considering doing a Steeler or Colt analysis, but at this point im scared to put anything on the board.
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on Oct 28th, 2003, 1:23pm, steelkings wrote:
You guys are as sensitive as a babys butt rash. I like the Eagles . Im a western PA transplant. I lke the Steelers ,Pitt Panthers,The lions of Penn State, The 76ers,  Ect,Ect Ect. There is an alliance through out the state of P.A. As goofy as I am , I even like Bulger because he's anouther good Pennsylvania QB. I also enjoy the Eagles Analysis. I truly think its cool that you spend the time to do it. as I am as a Steeler fan, im sure its frustrating to be the fan of an underachiving team. Its even More frustrating for me when I have Staley on my roster.  
Perhaps My ribbing is out of line. Perhaps its just not exceptable from someone out of the nitch. Either way I didnt mean it as a pesonal insult. If its taken that way. My bad.
I was considering doing a Steeler or Colt analysis, but at this point im scared to put anything on the board.

 
I realized you were upset, but I thought you were taking a pot-shot at my analysis in the other thread.  Since you weren't, no harm, no foul.
 
Anyway, when captainpurple was giving some predictions about his Vikings, I encouraged him to consider doing a weekly Vikings analysis, which he does now and I consider it one of the best analyses on the site.
 
Also, on your tagline "No post is insignificant."  That's exactly why I am here on this message board.  I remember when I first started logging into another message board (which will remain nameless) I found my posts were either ignored or ridiculed.  There was very little thought-provoking commentary or anything resembling a love of fantasy football.
 
Here I find people (for the most part) really enjoy the game and doing the analysis to help other people.  I've developed some pretty good friendships here in just over a year and, as evidenced by my post count, I don't even bother to go anywhere else now.
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Dig it! Youve been pretty good with your predictions latley. Almost right on the money. If its not to much trouble, will you predict a couple of TD's for Duce this week.
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Only if they are accompanied by a couple for Buckhalter (since I grabbed him in one league and have a waiver claim pending in my money league for him)...  Just a teaser for the next analysis...
 
I expect a breakout offensive game from the Eagles this week.  (Although if I say it, it will probably be a 6-3 game.)
 
I look forward to a Steelers or Colts analysis from you in the future too!
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Yeah maybe you could tell us what's up with Plax?  Could this be Cowher's last year as the Steelers head coach?
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