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If you or someone hasen't already picked him up, the waiver wire wonder is Houstons running back Dominic Davis. This kid looks strong. Look at his stats.
At home against the Jets week 7
27 carries-129yrds
9 Rec- 70 yrds
0 -td's
On this day Stacy Mack stole both red zone touchdowns from Davis making fantasy owners leary. Then look at this weeks stats.
On the road against Indy
25 carries-109yrds
7 rec-27yrds
2 TD'S
Stacy mack had 1 insignificant carry in the game. 1 Davis TD was a 15 yarder and the other was from 2 yrds out. Mack didnt steal that one.
The other arguement is that he plays for Houston. Because of that you shouldnt get caught up in getting excited about players from bad teams. However, That team seems to be getting better and better. Its possible that this could be a great pick up for someone. Especially if its a keeper league. Your thoughts?
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Re: Tough young rookie
« Reply #2 on: Oct 27th, 2003, 11:51am » |
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sk, you're presenting this as if it were new news. You do know this is old news, right? I mean if Davis hasn't been picked up in one's league yet, that's not a good statement about one's league.  Depending on roster depth, Davis should have been picked up once he started to flash those skills with some regularity like FIVE or SIX weeks ago or at least after his performance against Indy the Jets LAST week. Anyway, not to toot our horns too loudly here, and granted we have deep 21-man rosters, but frankly speaking, in the GBRFL, Davis was DRAFTED in (the 9th and final round of) our August 2nd (re-stocking) draft and has been held on to by said owner the whole time (said owner is not me  ).
Okay, continue your discussion of the obvious... 
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Re: Tough young rookie
« Reply #6 on: Oct 27th, 2003, 5:03pm » |
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on Oct 27th, 2003, 4:54pm, steelkings wrote:once he started to flash those skills with some regularity like FIVE or SIX weeks ago or at least after his performance against Indy LAST week.
Wow Steg,
You guy's in the Grid Iron leagues must be really smart. And way ahead of schedule. I thought that the Texans played Indy yesterday. where did the time go? I dont know how I didnt see those skill flashes Davis was displaying. Maybe he was hiding behind his 7 carries a game average in the first 5 games. Or maybe it was the massive 171 yrds he ran for over those 5 games. Or maybe it was the Stacy Mack Uniform he wore when he scored in those 5 weeks. Maybe I was blinded by the fact he was benched in favor of Tony Hollings and Stacy Mack During the Kansas City game. If only Dom Capers would have consulted you first, they could have flashed their way past the Chiefs. 
21 man rosters? Is there that many players in the NFL? We play with 12 spots  . I picked Davis up Friday.
Flashes for 5 or 6 weeks? Indy last week? Are you writing for Fanball now Stegman? I dont usually get uninformed garbage around here.
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Steel kings--
No need for the finger or for anyone to be a  or a  .
No one's upset. (except maybe you.) But there have been posts in regard to Davis. Numerous posts in numerous threads. JetDoc has actually provided many different insights in regards to him in his weekly analysis.
However, we are talking two different worlds of leagues. Keeper leagues truly had him targeted ages ago. As Steg pointed out, one guy actually drafted him in our league.
In addition, Steg said, "depending on roster size". On a 12 team league, depending on how many starters, I doubt I would have him either weeks ago. BUT, I would of have my eye on him weeks ago and probably added him at least a week ago. Just like you should have your eye on Rudi Johnson, Lamont Jordan, Ricky Williams(ind), etc.... Now with all that being said, I do agree with your conclusion he was a good pick up a week ago. Sportsline had him as the number one add after that Jets game.
SO relax, have a  ,  , or whatever your drug of choice is. Enjoy the site, keep posting, and have fun.
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Lamont Jordan? Ricky Williams?
Ricky williams -164 yrds rushing in 6 games (INDY)
Lamont Jordan-82 yrds rushing in 7 games
Ect. Ect.
You guys must get points if your running back just shows up. How many do you get for that?
I can only start 2 backs a game and they sure as hell arent gonna be Williams or Jordan.
I didn't get a chance to read the Oiler...opp's.. Texan week whatever anal-isis. All I did was point out....
SORRY....Iwont do it again. Now back to my bong
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« Reply #8 on: Oct 27th, 2003, 5:45pm » |
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Pardon me... I meant his 100+-yard game against the Jets two weeks ago.  If you'd have stopped and thought about it for a second, you'd have realized my quite small mistake rather than opportunistically playing off it. As for your inane and erroneous Fanball allusion/comparison,  if a) I were making a living from this and supporting a dozen or more employees and had a home office like Fanball, hell, if I were making ANYTHING from this, and then b) this was something I stated in an article or other "official product" and not on a message board forum, which, by the way, I provide along with a bunch of other cool stuff for FREE, sure, fire away... lop off my head... Otherwise, and in fact, that is just a jerky approach to take against me. 
As DD points out, the topic of Domanick Davis has been discussed quite a bit here already. That is what the handy-dandy "Search" feature is for. This topic did not merit a new thread to be started about it. That's ultimately whence I am coming here... trying a) to keep the thread proliferation here to a reasonable minimum so people's stuff doesn't go flying off page 1 in like half a day like at many other sites and b) to maintain organization and consolidation of discussion topics making it easier for us to get "the whole story" and get our facts straight by not just having disparate posts about a particular topic here, there and everywhere like at many other sites. 
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This site is one of my favorites. I think your work on it is outstanding! Its better than outstanding!
Now that ive blown ya.. lets digress.
I simply pointed out a player. I felt that in turn you called me stupid. You called my league stupid! Maybe we are.
As far as a topic without merit, thats bullshit. With your history search I found the subject last in the June 6th Texans Preview. I suppose I should instant message you with my topics before I post them.
Now, you are right, 1/2 the shit I said was unfair. that go's both ways tho.
Try to keep in mind that im still new. I dont know how to use 1/2 of this site. Give me a break and ill return the favor.
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Re: Tough young rookie
« Reply #10 on: Oct 27th, 2003, 6:19pm » |
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on Oct 27th, 2003, 4:54pm, steelkings wrote:| I dont know how I didnt see those skill flashes Davis was displaying. Maybe he was hiding behind his 7 carries a game average in the first 5 games. Or maybe it was the massive 171 yrds he ran for over those 5 games. Or maybe it was the Stacy Mack Uniform he wore when he scored in those 5 weeks. |
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Hmmmm... According to your very own numbers there, over his first five games, he had 35 carries for 171 yards. That's 4.9 yards-per-rush on a team that could hardly drum up a 3.0 yards-per-carry rusher. Point being, the guy "showed flashes" before Week 7. It is just that he "broke out" that week and REALLY broke out this week. There is a difference between "showing flashes" and "breaking out". The real savvy fantasy footballer extrapolates from those "flashes" or whatever and sees ahead; he does not (just) grab a player after the "breaking out" has begun (not that you shouldn't do that if it's possible) and, moreover, boast about it after the fact (not that that is what I am saying you are doing). Perhaps, as per the quoted sections at the top, after nastily and rather ignorantly bashing our league's system, the GBRFL system, you should reflect inwardly and ponder how your 12-man league makes you think (about things fantasy football) vis-a-vis how our 21-man deep-keeper league makes us think. Case in point, our guy knew about Domanick Davis back on August 2nd; you are starting a thread about him today, October 27th. That's fine! Don't get me wrong. But, without getting all flustered, you follow what I am trying to point out? We tend to think "in the box"... "in our box".
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We don't do a lot of that around here, something I believe you yourself have noted and complimented us and the site on. So, why is it so "cool" to do it now... moreover, to me?
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« Reply #11 on: Oct 27th, 2003, 6:28pm » |
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on Oct 27th, 2003, 6:11pm, steelkings wrote:Give me a break and ill return the favor.
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My last post was made before seeing your one right above it. But, I'm not going to be a total pussy and delete it. I don't think you'd want me to do that. I also think that there are some valuable thoughts worth considering (in general by everybody) contained in it. So,...  I'll "modify" it, though. 
Anyway, I'm with ya, bro'... 
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I dont like to insult anyone. Everyone has league pride. thats a good thing.
" Ignorance is a trait that drives men apart"
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on Oct 27th, 2003, 6:11pm, steelkings wrote:| With your history search I found the subject last in the June 6th Texans Preview. |
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Just a point of clarification here... I hate having inaccurate "realities" spread, which, moreover, may discourage some from using the extra convenience features we have here, in this case, the "Search" feature... If you do a search for "Domanick" just in "the Red Zone" over the last "60 days", you come up with a plethora of threads on which he was discussed quite a bit, dating as recently as late last week. 
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« Reply #16 on: Oct 27th, 2003, 10:19pm » |
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on Oct 27th, 2003, 8:28pm, 5-on-it wrote:This is by far the superior MB of any (FF or other) that I have ever been to  . |
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on Oct 27th, 2003, 6:11pm, steelkings wrote:| This site is one of my favorites. I think your work on it is outstanding! Its better than outstanding! |
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Here's what I don't get... Why is the correlation between how I run things and what is stated above not clearly perceived (or at least perceived to a similar degree that my condescendingness apparently is)? I hear this kind of thing from time to time, but I very rarely hear, besides from myself, "Hey guys, you really like it here because there's something a little different going on and it's got a good feel. Remember that it has something to do with how the dude runs the place... even if it comes at your VERY occasional expense. Just take it with a grain of salt. He does what he has to do the way he thinks it should be done and, go figure, we all generally love it." I mean you guys like not having out-and-out flamewars; you guys like the general tenor of the place. Most of the dregs are driven off by the way I run the show here, and if the droves of idiots do come through someday, you will be happy that I, at least, as administrator held my ground and ran a tight ship... setting according precedent and avoiding hypocrisy. Sometimes the captain of the ship has to do just that, captain the ship... and sometimes as site admin you have be a little harsher about "things" to get the point across... to hammer the point in. This way it's not forgotten... obviously and the person pauses and thinks twice the next time. That's the substantive effect... affect I am looking for. If I were to simply say, as you suggest, "hey steelkings, there are a few other posts already started regarding this subject," it would be forgotten like yesterday, especially by some of the flotsom that we could have coming through here. That fluff is for you guys to say to each other. (Since I don't usually get much help with that,) I've got to be a little more forceful,... but, of course, not outrightly disrespectful, which I am not; e.g., I very rarely stoop to name-calling. I'm not just another member; I'm the guy setting the tenor... that keeps out the morons and has guys thinking twice before posting (whatever bullshit they "feel" like posting willy-nilly), all of which ultimately reduces the chances of flamewars and makes for a nice, organized environment. My primary background is in teaching. I know... you give an inch, they'll take a yard. And, who says I'm not having fun? I enjoy running a site that's about "something", "something more" rather than just another free-for-all schmuck festival like what goes on at many other FF message boards. Perhaps the way I write intimidates. It shouldn't. Just take it whence it comes. I am ultimately going to run the show here the way I see fit, and ironically everybody who hangs on here seems to like it A LOT. I also have to say that this perception of condescendingness should be considered further. Most of the time that kind of "vibe" is at least as much about the perceiver as it is about the perceived... Now I just hope that didn't come off condescendingly.
Anyway, 5'er, how about some links to your boards? I'd love to drop by... and be just a visitor once in a while.
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« Reply #20 on: Oct 28th, 2003, 1:01pm » |
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Holy cow,  , who passed around the plate of paranoia and insecurity (yes, I mean you, sk, this time) and why did this guy take such heaping portions?
on Oct 28th, 2003, 7:13am, steelkings wrote:| A dreg, an Idiot. An hypocrit, and a moron. I think those were all directed at me. There was also Flotsom but Im not sure what it is so i'll choose to ignore that one. Now that was flat out mean. |
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You thought wrong, my friend. NONE, and I repeat, ABSOLUTELY NONE of that was directed at you, sk. I was speaking generally. Hell, I did not even use the word "hypocrisy" to point a finger outwardly at all at anybody.
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This is not at all what is being asked of you. You are welcome to stay. You've been a decent member here so far.
I just can't believe you're reading this as though it's ALL about you and twisting it up to so much to where the truth can hardly even be deciphered (if it were up to you). Originally, we had a beef. So, we had it out  sort of. But, you can't go (subsequently) reading into everything that it's all about you. That's something you gotta' look inside yourself and figure out. No one is responsible for reading your mind and dealing with what's going on inside you. All I can say is that everything is not a personal attack on you... unless you prove to be an idiot, a moron, a dreg, etc., etc., which I hope you are not and do not think you are, or if that's what you think you are, which I surely hope you don't, but ultimately do not have any control over, anyway, as that is inside you. Are we straight now and can we let this drop?
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on Oct 28th, 2003, 1:01pm, StegRock wrote:| Are we straight now and can we let this drop? |
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Evidently not completely, as I now see that you have your little cutesy, passive-aggressive "no post is insignificant" line under your avatar, not that I ever even mentioned the "significance or insignificance" of a post and not that yours was insignficant. I talked about organization, not significance. It's funny how things can be twisted (moreover, by someone looking to do so). Anyway, dude, rebel looking for a cause (yes, directed at you, sk), if you believe the spirit of that line of yours (not the substance of it as substantively I'm not sure what it means), then you may want to consider calling another FF forum home. There are a TON "out there" that have admins that are totally hands-off/don't give a shit and have absolutely no standards and will let you post whatever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want, however you want, for whatever reason you have. Of course, you may get flamed BIG-time for it, compared to how our "Gridiron Officials" go about things and/or my little, VERY occasional haughty barbs trying to push people to toe "the Gridiron" line. Not to mention, though I did not blink an eye on my initial reads of your post, now that I see how you think, I see that it is very plausible that you directed that "Jackass" (back, or as you perceived it to be "back") at me.
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All right , ill go. Hopefully you will allow me a thought out letter on my way out. Thanx
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