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Re: Dolphins Off Season Report
« Reply #4 on: Mar 16th, 2004, 7:54am » |
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on Mar 15th, 2004, 11:32pm, DOLFAN wrote:GO BOSTON! GO BOSTON! GO BOSTON!! GO BOSTON!!!
Yeah baby. This is exactly what MIA needed. Now we have 2 very good WRs. All of a sudden we have a legit offense.
RWms owners will be loving this. Jay Feeley owners too. I'm still not sure what this will do to Chambers and/or Boston stats wise. It may help or hinder both of them, only time will tell. I still see Boston posting similar #s next year. Chambers may take a slight hit.
I will say this though, all we need is 1 more OL guy and we are talking a solid Superbowl run now. The DEF is still intact too.
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Haven't the DOlphins on the verge of the Superbowl for a few years now? I am getting really tired of hearing this from a team that can't even make the playoffs.
(OH yea, be confident that a 3rd string QB and/or Fiedler will take the Dolphins to glory.)
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Re: Dolphins Off Season Report
« Reply #5 on: Mar 16th, 2004, 11:09am » |
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on Mar 16th, 2004, 7:54am, DirkDiggler wrote:Haven't the DOlphins on the verge of the Superbowl for a few years now? I am getting really tired of hearing this from a team that can't even make the playoffs.
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Thank goodness someone else said it!  I didn't want to have to. I personally (and not just because I have Chambers) don't "get" this trade at all. Their main problem is on O-line and at QB. Receiver, they were okay at. It's who's responsible for getting them the ball that's the problem. Now, they're stuck having to hammer out how to deal with Boston's PHAT  (and FAT  ) contract. Of course, with Boston's former receiving coach from the Cardinals now with the Dolphins, it was fairly obvious that this was going to go down. Personal connections usually trump all else (when the money is "all in order"). Anyway,... 
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Re: Dolphins Offseason Report
« Reply #7 on: Mar 16th, 2004, 2:38pm » |
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Just to come to DOLFAN's defense here a bit - and also that QB everyone is dissing...
AJ Feeley was not the 3rd string QB on the Eagles. Sure, gameday he was listed as the 3rd stringer, but that was only because Koy Detmer was the holder. If there had been a long-term injury to Donovan McNabb, AJ Feeley would have been the starter over Detmer.
Feeley won 5 of 6 games for the Eagles as a starter. He would have won the 6th had his kicker not missed a makeable FG. And, keep in mind, he did this with the league's worst receivers, an aging and largely ineffective TE, and a RBBC that included a rookie RB.
There is a reason that Feeley was coveted by the Dolphins. Remember Jake Delhomme.
Now if you want to gripe about the Dolphins offensive line, that's perfectly justifiable.
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Re: Dolphins Offseason Report
« Reply #8 on: Mar 16th, 2004, 3:37pm » |
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Philly, I don't think it's so much the analysis in a vacuum, at least for me. It's all about the theory of relativity: the quarterbacks they have and the availability (actual, by being a free-agent, or anticipated, by being on or very near the trading block) of the likes of a Jeff Garcia or Tim Couch, neither of whom they made a play for, vis-a-vis the receivers they have and signing an injury-prone, head case in David Boston, i.e., relatively speaking, Jeff Garcia would have been a much greater upgrade than David Boston. ... Also, for every Jake Delhomme there is a Ray Lucas. 
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Re: Dolphins Offseason Report
« Reply #9 on: Mar 16th, 2004, 4:03pm » |
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To perpetuate the continuum of the analysis in a vacuum... I just feel that AJ Feeley will succeed in Miami. He has the size and arm strength needed to be an NFL QB. He has been able to learn the game without being thrown to the wolves. He is well-respected by his teammates and has his ego firmly in check.
It's a bit misleading to point out that Miami did not go after Jeff Garcia (who is undersized, old, injury-riddled, and a criminal) or Tim Couch (who has yet to prove he can make it in the NFL AND is a head case) and went, instead, after a WR. WR was a need for them. They've tried to find a receiver to put opposite Chambers for a few years now. Gadsden, McKnight, Thompson... none have been good enough to allow Chambers to flourish, even when their offensive line was in better shape than it is now. Furthermore, there was the opportunity to obtain a top talent at the position for a cheap price (6th round pick + a scrub to be named later) and reunite him with a position coach he has success with a few years ago.
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Re: Dolphins Offseason Report
« Reply #10 on: Mar 16th, 2004, 4:10pm » |
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on Mar 16th, 2004, 4:03pm, Philly wrote:| WR was a need for them. They've tried to find a receiver to put opposite Chambers for a few years now. Gadsden, McKnight, Thompson... none have been good enough to allow Chambers to flourish, even when their offensive line was in better shape than it is now. |
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That's where the question lies... Was it that the other receivers weren't good enough or was it the quarterback(s)? 
Anyway, I basically like Feeley, too. We'll see if he beats out Fiedler to start the season, though.
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Re: Dolphins Off Season Report
« Reply #11 on: Mar 16th, 2004, 6:54pm » |
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on Mar 16th, 2004, 7:54am, DirkDiggler wrote:
Haven't the DOlphins on the verge of the Superbowl for a few years now? I am getting really tired of hearing this from a team that can't even make the playoffs.
(OH yea, be confident that a 3rd string QB and/or Fiedler will take the Dolphins to glory.)
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DD you know that I personally have not said that MIA was a SB team for the last 4 yrs. The so caled "experts/idiots" have said that, not me. I also said last year that we would miss the playoffs by 1 game. Nailed that on the head too. The Pats just keep kicking our ass.
Yes they have been on the "verge", just not quite there. This fills a MAJOR VOID and it should help them get over the hump. Boston does carry baggage and is somewhat of a risk, but so is any player taken with that 5th round pick.. Fine, it's better than not carrying anything at all.
This deal makes perfect sense. He cap hit si acceptable for the next 2 years. Chambers is an UFA next year too, so why not reduce the risks at WR now while looking at the future too.
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Re: Dolphins Offseason Report
« Reply #12 on: Mar 16th, 2004, 7:09pm » |
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I am not quite as hopeful as Philly, but agree that Feeley can be a starter in this league. I seem to remember Stegey last year was all over Holcomb from the year before when he filled in for Couch. He thought he could do it. In his defense though he did get hurt ...before he got benched. He had some faith in Delholme too. Actually he traded for the guy...in his defense it was after he played some games this year though to prove his worth.
on Mar 16th, 2004, 4:10pm, StegRock wrote:
That's where the question lies... Was it that the other receivers weren't good enough or was it the quarterback(s)?
Anyway, I basically like Feeley, too. We'll see if he beats out Fiedler to start the season, though. |
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No, the WRs in question have problems. The QB situation did not help things. Look at PHI, they ahve a great QB and the WRs can't do much at all.
The WRs for MIA were all castoffs from other teams. So what does that say if they can't even be a #3 for many opther teams? They suck.
Gadsden only had interest from Minny last year when he tested the free agent market, but he wanted more $ and never got it. He played well early in his career, but injuries and age have eaten at his skills, not that he was a stud anyway.
Boston is just a good fit, hands down. Also please someone tell me how Boston can't be worth a 5th round pick and some marginal player from the DEF?
Mia is great at drafting DEF guys, Shanny at RBs. Trade from your strengths to improve your weaknesses.
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Re: Dolphins Offseason Report
« Reply #14 on: Mar 16th, 2004, 7:37pm » |
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on Mar 16th, 2004, 7:09pm, DOLFAN wrote:| I am not quite as hopeful as Philly, but agree that Feeley can be a starter in this league. I seem to remember Stegey last year was all over Holcomb from the year before when he filled in for Couch. He thought he could do it. In his defense though he did get hurt ...before he got benched. He had some faith in Delholme too. Actually he traded for the guy...in his defense it was after he played some games this year though to prove his worth. |
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What are you talking about?  Your second use of "in his defense" doesn't even make sense!  Anyway, where do you get off?  What's your point incessantly bringing up this irrelevant-to-the-case-at-hand Holcomb BS at every turn like that defines my fantasy career  (not to mention that I cut my losses with him by trading him away before all hope was lost)? How 'bout we air your dirty FF laundry in every thread? 
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Re: Dolphins Offseason Report
« Reply #15 on: Mar 16th, 2004, 8:56pm » |
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on Mar 16th, 2004, 7:37pm, StegRock wrote:
What's your point incessantly bringing up this irrelevant-to-the-case-at-hand Holcomb BS at every turn like that defines my fantasy career (not to mention that I cut my losses with him by trading him away before all hope was lost)? How 'bout we air your dirty FF laundry in every thread? |
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What are you talking about? 
I don't bring up Holcomb at every turn. I can't remember bringing him up on this site in reference to your infatuation with him last year.
I was referring to you being very high on a backup that didn't do anything, became a bit gunshy, IMO, before going for Delholme. That deal alone is indefensible. It was a solid move. I was talking about your wait and see approach about a backup QB from the year before. You did dump Holcomb after the writing was on the wall though. Good job.
I in no way "air your dirty laundry in every thread". I don't even know what you mean by that. As far as the , love ya babe.  
Oh yeah back at ya bro.
I made far more mistakes last year with keeping PINK over Tony G, and then cutting McCardell are just some of them. I really had no idea that this would push you over the edge and generate this response. I guess I touched a nerve. I was just pointing out that many guys thought Holcomb was going to be the guy, and they were wrong. That was my attempt at tying him into QB question marks of backup QBs being able to carry the load as a starter.
I'm certain that you will post me another love letter about all of this BS.
Wasn't this discussion about Boston? Oh yeah, you don't like it because it affects yone of the WRs on your team, now I see. I have Boston, it hurts my team more than yours. Relax my friend, TO is now on PHI. Be thankful he didn't end up in BALT where they don't pass the ball. That deal would have hurt T.O. AND Jamal Lewis.
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Re: Dolphins Offseason Report
« Reply #21 on: Jul 25th, 2004, 11:09am » |
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IF Ricky Williams stays retired, who do the Dolphins turn to? I don't think Travis Minor is an option.
They do have good trade bait in Chris Chambers and Oguneleye. Both of these guys are in the final year of their contract.
My GUESS is that Oguneleye goes to the Minnesota Vikings in a trade for Michael Bennett and something else(Dontarius Thomas?) There have been rumors out there that Ontario Smith has stepped up enough that Bennett may be expendable. This trade makes sense for both teams. Or, maybe Ontario Smith is expendable.
My second guess would be Anthony Thomas of Chicago. They believe Jones will be the man and I see Thomas being expendable.
Finally, there are the cuts that may happen. The Raiders have way too many running backs as do the Broncos. Maybe they will sign one of those cut guys. However, with the trade bait they have, they should get a quality back somewhere.
I do know that Ricky really screwed them in their timing. THe Dolphins could of had Eddie George!
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Re: Dolphins Offseason Report
« Reply #22 on: Jul 25th, 2004, 1:29pm » |
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on Jul 25th, 2004, 11:09am, DirkDiggler wrote:IF Ricky Williams stays retired, who do the Dolphins turn to? I don't think Travis Minor is an option.
They do have good trade bait in Chris Chambers and Oguneleye. Both of these guys are in the final year of their contract.
My GUESS is that Oguneleye goes to the Minnesota Vikings in a trade for Michael Bennett and something else(Dontarius Thomas?) There have been rumors out there that Ontario Smith has stepped up enough that Bennett may be expendable. This trade makes sense for both teams. Or, maybe Ontario Smith is expendable.
My second guess would be Anthony Thomas of Chicago. They believe Jones will be the man and I see Thomas being expendable.
Finally, there are the cuts that may happen. The Raiders have way too many running backs as do the Broncos. Maybe they will sign one of those cut guys. However, with the trade bait they have, they should get a quality back somewhere.
I do know that Ricky really screwed them in their timing. THe Dolphins could of had Eddie George! |
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I think the Chicago swap makes the most sense. I know Chicago was active in their pursuit of Ogunleye earlier in the off-season, but weren't willing to pay such a high price for him.
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