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« on: Mar 5th, 2004, 6:39pm »
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Giants sign Eagles LB Carlos Emmons. It's at least a start to signinng several players they are looking at...
 
 
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Today's Free Agent Update – Coleman, Haggans, and Nesbit Signed?: BigBlueInteractive.com is hearing from a few sources that tentative deals may have been finalized between the Giants and unrestricted free agents DT Rod Coleman (Raiders) and LB Clark Haggans (Steelers). However, we have not received any definitive confirmation and thus the signing of these two remains speculative at this point.  
 
The Star-Ledger reports that a source "close to the situation" said Coleman's visit to the Giants went well and that Coleman is very interested in the Giants. Publicly, Coleman is said to be committed to visiting the Falcons before making any decision. The agent for Haggans also said his visit went extremely well. "He enjoyed meeting with everyone out there and liked the way they would theoretically use him," said Haggan's agent. Publicly, Haggans is said to be visiting the Lions next before making any decision. ESPN is reporting that Haggans is receiving serious interest from the Giants, Lions, and Steelers and that his value has soared into the $2 million per year range. ESPN says Haggans will make his decision today.  
 
A Jacksonville radio station and Jacksonville.com are reporting that the Giants have signed unrestricted free agent OG/OC Jamar Nesbit (Jaguars). The 28-year old Nesbit is 6-4 and 330lbs. He was a primary back-up for the Jaguars in 2003. From 1999-2002, Nesbit played for the Panthers, where he started.  
 
Meanwhile, unrestricted free agent SLB Carlos Emmons (Eagles) visited the Giants yesterday and The Ledger speculates that Emmons is one of the Giants' most wanted free agent targets. Emmons will undergo a physical from the Giants today (Emmons broke his left fibula in December). The Eagles, Saints, and Steelers are also pursuing Emmons.  
 
Unrestricted free agents DT Fred Robbins (Vikings), DT Steve Martin (Texans), OG Mike Goff (Bengals), and CB William Bartee (Chiefs) also arrived at Giants Stadium yesterday. Robbins' agent says the level of mutual interest between Robbins and the Giants is "high". According to Martin's agent, the Texans are making a late push to re-sign Martin by raising their offer to him.  
 
OC Rich Braham (Bengals) is scheduled to visit the Giants today. S Rich Coady (Rams) is scheduled to visit next week. The New York Post reports that while Braham is visiting, it is the 28-year old Goff who the Giants have higher on their wish list. The Post says the Giants are interested in converting Goff, who played right guard with the Bengals, into a center.  
 
There was one internet report that said the Giants may also be interested in DE Bert Berry (Broncos). The Denver press speculates that LB Ian Gold (Broncos) may also be of interest to the Giants.  
 
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
« Reply #1 on: Mar 6th, 2004, 10:07am »
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Giants also ink DT Fred Robbins from the Vikes...
 
 
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
« Reply #2 on: Mar 7th, 2004, 3:57pm »
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Giants sign Shaun O'Hara from Cleveland to play center. He is also an excellent long snapper as well. Nice to see them rebuilding the O- line...
 
http://www.giants.com/news/index.cfm?cont_id=234161&right_include=/i ncludes/eisens_archive_module.cfm
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
« Reply #3 on: Mar 7th, 2004, 11:31pm »
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The Giants aren't getting the big name guys, but are filling there whole rather well. They still have a wasy to go before they get back to a SB team, or playoff team for that matter. I see them bringing up the rear in the NFC East this year.
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
« Reply #4 on: Mar 10th, 2004, 8:48pm »
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Wow...the Giants will have a completely new set of linebackers this season. Jones, Short and Barrow all gone after they cut Barrow today...
 
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
« Reply #5 on: Mar 10th, 2004, 9:48pm »
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So, Jim, what's your take on the Dhani Jones for Carlos Emmons swap?  Any winners and losers or is it a push?
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
« Reply #6 on: Mar 10th, 2004, 9:55pm »
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I don't know really....Jones thinks he is better than he really is. Mr. air guitar after every tackle.   He is speedy for sure. Emmons is less flashy, but a better tackler I think. Maybe the change of scenery will do both of them good and they both play well.
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The thing I noticed about Emmons was that you never noticed him... at least until he was injured.  He is very solid and does his job well.  I think he should be able to come back from his broken leg without any problems.  He is a bit bigger than Jones, yet has enough speed to shut down the TEs and RBs coming out of the backfield.
 
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
« Reply #8 on: Mar 10th, 2004, 10:29pm »
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The knock on all three departed LB's were that none of them were good in pass coverage. Barrett Green and Emmons are better vs. the pass then the three ex backers were. I have heard rumors the Giants will hand the job to one of their your guys already on the team (Nick Greisen) or draft a rookie in the second or third round in this year's draft.
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
« Reply #9 on: Mar 11th, 2004, 8:19am »
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What happened to Brandon Short?  I don't remember seeing anything about him leaving.  I remember him being a very good LB at Penn State and it seemed like he was just starting to come into his own as an NFL LB - at least when I saw him play against the Eagles.
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
« Reply #10 on: Mar 15th, 2004, 6:12pm »
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Giants sign another former Browns offensive lineman in Barry Stokes. That gives them three solid lineman, and hopefully a fourth when they draft Gallery.  
 
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/NYG/7174014
 
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
« Reply #11 on: Apr 3rd, 2004, 9:18pm »
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This offseason is going to be an interesting ride for Collins owners.  From "The REAL Feed":
 
Collins' future with Giants still in doubt
SI.com: NFL (03.04.2004 19:27)

 
LOCAL and OFFICIAL backup from "the Gridiron Newsstand", including a little news on Ron Dayne and the chances of his mounting a comeback with new head coach Tom Coughlin at the helm:
 
Straight from the horse's mouth, the Giants official web site,
http://www.giants.com/;
 
AP report -
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/sports/AP-FBN-Giants-Collins.html;
 
Giants notebook piece, includes info on Dayne and Collins -
http://www.nj.com/giants/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/108090060822174 0.xml.
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
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As per "The REAL Feed", here's the latest on Collins:
 
Collins future depends on Giants' draft picks
ESPN: NFL (05.04.2004 22:55)

 
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
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Well, news out of "the Gridiron Newsstand" indicates that the Giants are seeking a trade with the Chargers for the No. 1 pick:
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1777846;
 
http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/story?id=1777540.
 
They are eyeing up Manning big-time.  Could be Collins!
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
« Reply #14 on: Apr 8th, 2004, 7:31pm »
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Great info, Steg-man! The G-Men's answer to Chad! (For the Left Coasters, this is like the Raiders/9ers.)  I wonder what the Giants would look like with a major QB.....Let the bandwagoning begin!
 
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I cant believe the chargers have not learned  from the vick deal,some say the giants should not do the deal I realize they need alot of help but you have to start some where.Eli manning seem to me like a great place to start to me.Hey callie I like chad also.thanks again for the link help
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Any time, Crash.  Thanks for the thanks!  Lookin' forward to your info!!!!
 
And here's what All Sorts Sports says about the Giants/Manning thing:
 
"8 April, 2004  
 
Giants (NJ.com) The Giants' intentions in the April 24 draft might no longer be much of a secret. They hold the fourth overall pick and general manager Ernie Accorsi called Chargers general manager A.J. Smith two days ago to ask the cost of trading up to the No. 1 spot. Can you say "Eli Manning?" "I've also spoken to another club ahead of us and one behind us," Accorsi said last night. "We're exploring our options. I've said that we'd explore our options from the beginning, from moving up to moving down to staying where we are." The Giants aren't about to divulge any draft-room secrets. Yet the latest round of speculation was actually supplied by Smith, who told the Associated Press yesterday: "(The Giants) would like to move from four to one. Anything we discuss (beyond that) is football business between the two of us." Of course, just the public acknowledgment of their trade discussion by Smith and Accorsi may be proof in itself that nothing is on the front-burner. But should they make a deal, there is little doubt that Manning is the Giants' man. They love Iowa left tackle Robert Gallery, too, but not No. 1 overall. Meanwhile, the Giants continued to be active in free agency yesterday, adding a big run-stuffer -- emphasis on "big" -- in signing defensive tackle Norman Hand to a two-year, $2-million contract."
 
Wait-and-see time of the year.....
 
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
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Regarding the news of the Giants seeking a trade with the Chargers for the No. 1 pick, allegedly to get Eli Manning, here's what's currently topping "The REAL Feed":
 
Giants Interest in Manning a Smokescreen?
About.com: Football (12.04.2004 07:35)
Reports surfaced over the weekend that the New York Giants have contacted the San Diego Chargers about acquiring the No. 1 overall pick in the NFL Draft, presumably with the intent of selecting Mississippi quarterback Eli Manning. But don't be...
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« Reply #18 on: Apr 13th, 2004, 7:41pm »
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I am a huge Giants Fan, (hence the LT picture), but I think the Giants really want Gallery, but are afraid that he will not be there at 4.  I tend to think that Gallery is a very solid pick and the QB, whomever it is, needs the protection to do anything.  I know I am stating the obvious, but I think the Giants will do fine with Collins and can win with him at the helm.  Go for the lineman.
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« Reply #19 on: Apr 14th, 2004, 8:21pm »
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This thing is a lot of fun for me.  Here's what All Sorts Sports said today:
 
"14 April, 2004  
 
Chargers (The Union-Tribune)  Chargers General Manager A.J. Smith has said repeatedly that he won't seriously consider trade offers for the top pick in this month's NFL draft until tomorrow at the earliest. Still, the pervasive opinion among many league observers is that Smith wants to unload the selection. The opinions are based not only on the Chargers having numerous holes to fill after an eighth consecutive non-winning season, but also on the fact that the team mass e-mailed writers and reporters last week after the New York Giants inquired about possibly dealing for the choice. It's almost unheard of for a club to post such information on its Web site, let alone do a mass mailing to reporters about it. A lot of people took that to mean that the Chargers are desperate to stir up interest in the pick, then unload it to the highest bidder. However, after further review, a trade seems less likely with each passing day. The reason is Iowa offensive tackle Robert Gallery. Two well-placed sources said recently that there is no chance of Gallery slipping past the second pick, where he would be taken by the Oakland Raiders or a team that trades with them, possibly Cleveland or Washington. If true, that almost forces the Chargers to stay at No. 1. The Chargers' two biggest needs are offensive tackle and quarterback, in that order. If Gallery goes second overall as expected, trading down could cost the Chargers not only the top-rated offensive linemen, but also top-rated quarterback Eli Manning of Mississippi, who is projected to go first overall. At this point, things are playing out in such a fashion that they likely will stay put and take Manning."
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
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News coming out here in the New York metropolitan area indicates that Neil O'Donnell may be going to the Giants to, at first, START and then by around mid-season fill the role of Eli Manning's backup.  Here is the LOCAL corroboration from "the Gridiron Newsstand":
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/story/188043p-162805c.html;
 
http://www.nypost.com/sports/giants/23406.htm.
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Guess we all heard Collins got the axe.  Think he'll end up backing up Gannon???
 
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Re: Giants Offseason Report
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Here's, at least, a curious piece from "The REAL Feed":
 
Strahan lowers expectations
ESPN: NFL (01.05.2004 14:51)
 
Not really what Giants fans want to hear, I would guess!
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From Kurt Warner's agent about the Giants:
 
"It's a team that is looking for a quarterback," Bartelstein said. "We've certainly talked to them. Whether it will lead to anything is hard to say. The Giants are one of the teams I've had ongoing conversations with regarding Kurt's situation. They just drafted a quarterback who is going to be their franchise quarterback, there is no question about that. Kurt understands that. He understands you're not going to find the perfect situation in May or June."  
 
IMHO - They need a guy to cover the first half of the season, at least, until Eli is ready.  At this point, it's probably Kurt's best hope to start.
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From Kurt Warner's agent about the Giants:
 
"It's a team that is looking for a quarterback," Bartelstein said. "We've certainly talked to them. Whether it will lead to anything is hard to say. The Giants are one of the teams I've had ongoing conversations with regarding Kurt's situation. They just drafted a quarterback who is going to be their franchise quarterback, there is no question about that. Kurt understands that. He understands you're not going to find the perfect situation in May or June."  
 
IMHO - They need a guy to cover the first half of the season, at least, until Eli is ready.  At this point, it's probably Kurt's best hope to start.

 
Unbelievable waste of money if the Giants sign him.  He is garbage.  He can't throw the ball anymore.  The games he played last year were embarrasing!!!
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