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C. Johnson or S. Jackson who to keep
« on: Jul 16th, 2005, 12:44am » |
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Okay, it is getting close to draft day. I have asked this question here before and I will now ask it again. The information is more clear at this point, but not entirely lucid. Who should I keep in a league with only one keeper, Chad Johnson or Steven Jackson?
I am leaning towards Jackson. While he may not be as strong as Johnson in the coming year, Jackson will probably be a bigger stud in the years to come. Jackson may have some of his time compromised by M. Faulk and who knows how much Martz will want to run. This said, the Rams are playing a lot of weak run defenses this year. So, he could put up some big numbers even if his carries are somewhat limited by Faulk.
Chad Johnson is on the verge of becoming one of the dominant wide receivers in the game. He and Palmer did very well together in the second half and Johnson, with the exception of touchdowns, has put up very comparable numbers to M. Harrison over the last two seasons.
I think I may be able to get Johnson in the first round. Then again, I may be able to get Julius Jones, Rudi Johnson or Domminick Davis (sp?) in the first round. If I can leave the first round with Johnson and Jackson, I would be very happy. There should be enough running backs in the second round for me to get a decent number two.
My quandry is clear. Do I protect a guy who I think will be one of the top wide receivers this year or do I keep a guy who has great long-term value?
I won my league championship last year largely on the shoulders of the Bills DST and Antonio Gates. Therefore, I understand that a season is not solely reliant on the first two or three rounds. Regardless, I have a tough decision and would love some help.
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RB- LT, Lynch, Addai, F.Jackson, D. Foster
WR-Wayne, A.Johnson, C.Johnson
TE-H.Miller
K-Akers, Gould
DST-Steelers
Start-QB,2RB,2WR,TE,K,DST
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Re: C. Johnson or S. Jackson who to keep
« Reply #1 on: Jul 16th, 2005, 11:43am » |
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(Somewhat in accordance with my "the better half" rankings here in "the Red Zone) You gotta go with the RB Jackson. To me, all else has to be put aside, you gotta go with the #12 RB over the #4 WR. The one disclaimer,... if you were like 90% sure you could get Rudi, who I have ranked #6 among RB's, in your draft. Then, maybe, just maybe, I would keep Chad. On the other hand, if you did that, you'd be putting a lot of your eggs in the Bengal  basket, a VERY dangerous tight-rope to be walking despite ALL the hype. Good luck! 
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Re: C. Johnson or S. Jackson who to keep
« Reply #5 on: Jul 18th, 2005, 10:39am » |
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Thanks, fellas. Your advise is very sound. I will probably protect Jackson. This seems like the most sound move.
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Re: C. Johnson or S. Jackson who to keep
« Reply #8 on: Jul 21st, 2005, 3:24pm » |
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He gets 1 keeper, msb. He states that. He doesn't tell us what exact pick he has, but he does mention who he's likely looking at getting with the pick he has in the first round. I appreciate your thoroughness, msb, of course. So, don't get me wrong... But, the way you put it, you kind of make it sound like the prior responses were "uneducated" as opposed to what you'll come up with with further information,... when in fact adequate enough info may have been given to make an appropriately educated response. I mean unless there's a bomb he forgot to drop on us, I think the analysis heretofore is fairly accurate. But, anyway, have at it...  The scoring system surely would be a valuable extra piece of info... though, barring its being a fluky system, it very likely won't change things all too much.
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Re: C. Johnson or S. Jackson who to keep
« Reply #9 on: Jul 21st, 2005, 4:34pm » |
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on Jul 21st, 2005, 2:55pm, mutantseabass wrote:| I like Stephen Jackson just dont like Jackson in Martz system. |
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So, what is it, msb, that you don't like about Jackson in Martz's system? I mean, mind you, I am not a fan of Mike Martz, but I think I still like Jackson in that system. I do think, based on his size and build, that he is better suited to a Denver Broncos-type system, but I still think he'll do great in St. Louis.
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Re: C. Johnson or S. Jackson who to keep
« Reply #11 on: Jul 21st, 2005, 8:13pm » |
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Thanks, msb, for the contrite "comeback" (double-entendre intended).  Way to gain (my) respect!  But, really, you need not feel all too bad. I was just expressing with forthrightness the (logical) implication of your post (that, I thought, you likely did not intend). In any case, as the guys around here will tell ya, I tend to be a bit spotty... every day of the month.  ...  |
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Re: C. Johnson or S. Jackson who to keep
« Reply #13 on: Jul 25th, 2005, 12:19pm » |
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First of all, thank you all for your input. I hope that I can be as helpful you all at some point.
Here is some additional information that hopefully will answer everyone's quesitons.
I have the fourth pick in a snake (I have the 4th, 21st, 27th, 44th, etc.) At the time of my original posting I did not know the draft order. This information should help a lot.
We do not get points for receptions
TDs are 6 points
Yardage scoring is fairly standard
We can only protect one player
We start 1 QB, 2 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE, 1 DST, 1 K each week
The only way I think I could trade Johnson or Jackson is if I traded a pick or traded for a pick. I do not think that our league allows us to trade draft picks. If I could trade a draft pick, I might, I stress might, be able to unload Johnson or Jackson to the guy who would have to protect Hesslebeck or Taylor (see below). This guy has the 2nd pick in the draft.
Here is a list of players who have the potential to be protected. Each line represents one team. A slash between players means that they will protect one or other.
S. Alexander/D. McNabb
R. Moss/P. Holmes
H. Ward (owner is a huge Steelers fan)
L. Tomlinson
D. Culpepper/J. Lewis
P. Manning/W. McGahee (big Bills and Huricanes fan sp he may protect McGahee)
D. McAllister/T. Owens
F. Taylor/M. Hasselbeck (seriously, these are by far his two best players)
E. James
C. Portis/D. Davis
T. Barber/A. Green
and obviously
S. Jackson/C. Johnson
Please let me know if any other information would be helpful.
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QB - Rodgers, Schaub
RB- LT, Lynch, Addai, F.Jackson, D. Foster
WR-Wayne, A.Johnson, C.Johnson
TE-H.Miller
K-Akers, Gould
DST-Steelers
Start-QB,2RB,2WR,TE,K,DST
no rec. pts, 6pt. TD
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