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Re: Vikings Offseason Report 2006
« Reply #2 on: Jan 20th, 2006, 8:22pm » |
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Double D, GREAT post, but regarding the starting of this "offseason report" thread,... I had to make a judgment call on this a couple weeks ago and I came to the determination outlined on the following thread page:
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=55;a ction=display;num=1109964598;start=75.
In accordance with that determination, this thread will be temporarily locked until "OUR" "in-"season, i.e. the post-season, has COMPLETELY and indubitably ended and "OUR" offseason CLEARLY begun. So, continue to post on the in-season threads until the Pro Bowl has been played. Thank you!
P.S. (By the way, I prefer the (mis)spelling of "offseason" without the hyphen and will edit any threads that are a part of our "official 'Offseason Reports'" titled otherwise. I have my philosophical reasons...  Again, thank you for you anticipated cooperation.) |
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Re: Vikings Offseason Report
« Reply #9 on: Mar 8th, 2006, 5:41pm » |
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Culpepper tells Vikings to trade him or release him
This move isn't that suprising. Culpepper's not been anywhere near Winter Park during his rehab. And the fans of Minnesota, for better or worse, have decided they don't like Culpepper, so he's not really expected to be welcomed back with open arms.
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How a bunch of idiots can decide "we're better off" without the best WR in football, and one year later without a top 5 QB is beyond me. Culpepper started out 2005 in terrible fashion, but some of that is attributable to no running game and a terrible offensive line. Go back to 2004, and if Manning doesn't throw 49 TDs, Pepp probably gets quite a few MVP votes. Statistically, he had one of the best seasons for a QB ever. But the average Minny fan will say he's too dumb to run the offense, or fumbles too much, and place the whole damn thing on Pepp's shoulders, rather than moving some of that to a dunce head coach, an unqualified offensive coordinator or a poor coaching staff in general |
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If you're holding Pepp in a keeper league, you've gotta hope he ends up in Miami or AZ. Some of the other QB seekers are probably Buffalo, NYJ, Detroit and NO. But really there's probably only 10 teams that wouldn't improve my having Pepp in their lineup. Still, AZs stable of WRs, and Miami's offensive resurgence and family ties make those two homes most suitable IMO.
For more on whether you should trade Pepp now, see the Viking report!
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3 straight underperforming seasons, one nitwit head coach, 2 problem child WRs, 1 collosal trade bungle....but a wild boat party with booze and hookers!!!????? Priceless.
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Re: Vikings Offseason Report
« Reply #15 on: Mar 10th, 2006, 12:17am » |
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I've read that it was going to be a Rams/Vikes deal for Bulger.
Guess we'll find out tomorrow!! 
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Re: Vikings Offseason Report
« Reply #17 on: Mar 10th, 2006, 9:46am » |
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sk, I believe your proving my point quite efficiently. The Minnesota fan base, and apparaently some Steeler fans too, have placed the recent woes of this team squarely on Pepps shoulders. I don't know how closely you've followed Minnesota this past 5 years, but I don't know how you can come to the decision that the Vikings are better off w/o Pepp if you had followed them closely.
1st off, the best showing for a Minnesota defense in the past 5 years was last year. There's no questioning the fact that it's easier to win when the D is forcing 3&Out situations and keeping the opponent under 20 pts.
Second, and thanks to soso for pointing this out, if you had watched, you'd have seen the Vikings threw a grand total of 4 passes over 40 yards with BJ in there. FOUR! The Vikings had to change the O to match BJs limitations. He got great D support, fantastic special teams play (remember the Giants game?) and a much improved O-Line as Loney/Tice finally got their heads out of their arses and shuffled the line. Had Pepp been playing under the same circumstances, I believe he'd have settled into a fine season, and stopped pressuring so much.
The team that gets Pepp is going to be ecstatic. There's very likely going to be a Pro Bowl or 3 in his future, and if that's true, how can a team be better off w/o him?
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Re: Vikings Offseason Report
« Reply #18 on: Mar 10th, 2006, 9:48am » |
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on Mar 10th, 2006, 12:17am, Oakland4life wrote:I've read that it was going to be a Rams/Vikes deal for Bulger.
Guess we'll find out tomorrow!!
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I hadn't heard this, but it reunites Pepp with Linehan, under whom he had a phenomenal year. It makes sense, but maybe the rumor started because of this fact.
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Re: Vikings Offseason Report
« Reply #20 on: Mar 11th, 2006, 8:03am » |
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I love a good healthy debate.
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As a Steeler fan purhaps Im not as close to the situation as a die hard Purple eater is. My best friend is a Vikes fan and I do know quite a bit.
Quote:| SK if you wanna put it like that we could list a HUGE list of QBs....hmmm Donovan Mcnabb, Jake Delhomme, peyton manning and the list goes on forever |
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Theres a huge difference between Pepper and the rest of the list. The rest of the list doesnt have an even turnover to Td ratio over 6 playing years. C-pepp is a turnover machine. I dont care how good your defence is, if you QB is not taking care of the ball your gonna loss some games. Espeacially to the better teams. Im not just talking about last year either. How about 2002-2003 when he had 23 picks and 21 fumbles. Ok ,he only lost 8 of the fumbles but the points still made.
Quote:| you'd have seen the Vikings threw a grand total of 4 passes over 40 yards with BJ in there. FOUR! The Vikings had to change the O to match BJs limitations. He got great D support, fantastic special teams play (remember the Giants game?) and a much improved O-Line as Loney/Tice finally got their heads out of their arses and shuffled the line. Had Pepp been playing under the same circumstances, I believe he'd have settled into a fine season, and stopped pressuring so much |
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The fact that the Vikings as a team played better with Brad Johnson speaks volumes ! The "D" played better with a different QB. The speacial teams were more motivated with a different QB. The team went 7 & 2 with a different QB. 4 passes over 40 yrds and 7 & 2, I'll take that any day.
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Lastly, How could you ever want to keep a guy who pulled a Ron Artest and quite clearly stated he wanted out. He doesnt want to be there. As a player how could you bitch about an organization that (at first ) was willing to stand behind you, when in your recent past includes roasting a knee, enjoying a boat trip, Playing the race card accussing both the media and the organization of protecting the white people on the boat, on top of being the leagues leading turnover machine when you were injured. He went Ron Artest! How could you ever want to keep that?
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Re: Vikings Offseason Report
« Reply #23 on: Mar 11th, 2006, 8:58pm » |
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Here's a good little article about Daunte's woes and lack of suitors:
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9301001
On Friday, published reports had him all but packed for the Oakland Raiders, with several media outlets weighing in on the possibility of a Randy-Daunte reunion. Then, when the Raiders cut starting quarterback Kerry Collins later in the day, a trade for Culpepper looked like a sure thing.
Only one problem: It didn't happen. No, check that -- it wasn't close to happening.
Ask the Vikings. Ask the Raiders. They'll tell you. Well, at least one side will.
"There was no real offer," said a source close to the situation, "because the Raiders weren't interested. They looked into it, but they weren't interested."
And the reason?
"The same reason Baltimore backed off," said the source. "(Culpepper) has bad knees that won't allow him to practice until August."
I've also read that no one wants to give up a second round pick for Daunte's knees.
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