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Problems @ KFFL!?!?
« on: Mar 28th, 2003, 12:27pm » |
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I have some important questions I would like to ask you all about the "Hot off the Wire" service that KFFL provides. Let me preface this by saying that their "Hot off the Wire" is something that has been part of my daily FF diet for a number of years now; I think it is a fairly good service. That said...
(PLEASE, let's keep answers targeted... I want this to be focused! Thank you!)
1. Would you consider KFFL one of the most popular and successful fantasy football information sites? From 1 to 10, with 1 being low and 10 being high, how would you rank their popularity?
2. From 1 to 10, how would you rank KFFL "overall" (if you use a preponderance of their services) or "in general" (from what you can tell by what you do use, including assessing layout, format, interface, etc., etc.)?
3. Would you consider KFFL's "Hot off the Wire" one of the more, if not the most, popular single resources on the internet, at least with regards to fast information dissemination? From 1 to 10, how would you rank its popularity?
4. From 1 to 10, how would you rank KFFL's "Hot off the Wire"?
5. From 1 to 10, to what degree do you think KFFL's popularity and success is tied to "Hot off the Wire"?
6. Do you visit/use any of the other features KFFL provides for FREE? If so, which ones? And, how would you rank them from 1 to 10?
7. Do you use/subscribe to any of KFFL's pay services? If so, which ones? And, how would you rank them from 1 to 10?
8. Have you ever used KFFL's "Hot off the Wire" in conjunction with "the Gridiron Newsstand"?
9. What other alternative "Hot Wire"-type or "Newsstand"-type services are out there/do you use/would you recommend? (Feel free to provide links!) How would rank them from 1 to 10?
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Re: Survey: KFFL's Hot off the Wire!
« Reply #1 on: Mar 28th, 2003, 12:30pm » |
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My answers:
1. YES, perhaps #2 right behind Fanball, if it is even fair to consider Fanball a "secondary" site anymore. 9.5
2. 8.5
3. YES, perhaps the most popular of its kind to date. 10
4. 8
5. 10, KFFL's emergence is ALL ABOUT the success of their "Hot off the Wire" and the fact that it is FREE!
6. YES, but not really! I guess way back I signed up for their "E-mail Updates" and I still get them. I think they are just overkill, just another impersonal newsletter, nothing new there. 3
7. NO.
8. YES (if you haven't figured it out).
9. Well, I don't know if I'd recommend them, but there is:
Fanball's News Breaks - 5.5, meaty because of the extended "fantasy perspectives" they give, BUT very NOT up-to-the-minute or comprehensive, at least when compared to something like "Hot off the Wire" or what I am going to mention next. Bottom line, I do check them out, though, usually once a day, nevertheless.
FootballInsider.com - 6, it is just TOO wired... to the point that it compromises the site's user-friendliness and interface A LOT. I mean the whole web site is nothing but news-feed links. But, as far as mass distribution of football information goes with respect to sheer numbers, it has to be #1. Bottom line, as some of you may know, I used to work (no, not just do free fantasy articles, actual employment) for "Football Insider" back in 2000; the site used to be in my "Great Eight" fantasy football information sites that I indicate on the GBRFL home page (current FantasyFootballer.com index page); it is NOT anymore, and I VERY rarely visit the site. Looking at ALL the links actually gives me a headache... seriously.
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Re: Survey: KFFL's Hot off the Wire!
« Reply #3 on: Mar 28th, 2003, 3:44pm » |
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1. 9.5 Every true fantasy footballer is aware of KFFL.
2. 9
3. Hot off the wire is the most popular website link that exists for fantasy footballers. 10
4. 8 - Hot off the wire is good, but does not provide direct links to the article.
5. 9.5 KFFL became popular based on Hot Off the Wire.
6. Yes. I use their weekly rankings--4.5 draft information--5 free agent infomation--3 As you see by my rankings, I don't think that much of the rest of kffl. I use it mostly for 'reference' purposes only. Just a quick glance.
7. HELL NO.
8. Yes, as stated earlier, KFFL does not provide direct links to the articles. I use the gridiron newstand to get the local take and to try to find the actual article.
9. I do use other sites. Would I recommend them? Not really.
4for4.com--- Hard to impossible to navigate site. Mostly a pay site. I only use THE DAILY NEWS link. HOWEVER, this only updates once per day. Outdated info, BUT, tends to have "smaller" and "local" takes on players. For example, this is where I first found the Couch vs Holcombe controversy info. about 2 days before other sites. (4 rating based on the fact only once and day, but occasionally I find a gem)
TheRedZone.org---not a pretty site, but it does have links directly to an article with the headline. Not updated in a timely fashion. If I ever need a "list" of something related to football, they will probably have it.
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Re: Survey: KFFL's Hot off the Wire!
« Reply #4 on: Mar 28th, 2003, 5:12pm » |
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1. Would you consider KFFL one of the most popular and successful fantasy football information sites? From 1 to 10, with 1 being low and 10 being high, how would you rank their popularity?
10 - Popularity being considered equal to being widely known by even novice ffplayers.
2. From 1 to 10, how would you rank KFFL "overall" (if you use a preponderance of their services) or "in general" (from what you can tell by what you do use, including assessing layout, format, interface, etc., etc.)?
10 - with trusting thier content being my overall factor in their overall rating. That they've kept the same format as the have for as long as they have is fine by me. Not saying it absolutely couldt not be improved, but I know that place like the back of my hand. Change would be met with resistance initally by me.
3. Would you consider KFFL's "Hot off the Wire" one of the more, if not the most, popular single resources on the internet, at least with regards to fast information dissemination? From 1 to 10, how would you rank its popularity?
same answer as #1
4. From 1 to 10, how would you rank KFFL's "Hot off the Wire"?
I guess I consider them one and the same. They could strip every service but Hot Off The Wire and I'd still rank them high. It's what they do.
5. From 1 to 10, to what degree do you think KFFL's popularity and success is tied to "Hot off the Wire"?
10 - all of it. The stats are better elsewhere, the message boards are better elsewhere, etc
6. Do you visit/use any of the other features KFFL provides for FREE? If so, which ones? And, how would you rank them from 1 to 10?
hotwire is my bookmark page, on busy news days, especialy in season, I go straight from there to the "team notebooks" - 10+ for those if the main page gets a 10. Next stop is the message board, team specific ones, where I basically am just a lurker. Their main board is useless so I'll say 1, but the team specific boards can expose some real insight, so 8. I do subsrcibe to their free e-mail things and in season it usally old news to me by the time I get it but they do sen a bunch of "number" stuff as well, so I keep subscribed. Hmm...8. Have used many of the other areas like the trade calculator on occaision, say 8.
7. Do you use/subscribe to any of KFFL's pay services? If so, which ones? And, how would you rank them from 1 to 10?
Nope. Had two league mates this season that did and both say they wouldn't again. Won't rate it since it's second hand. I won't pay anyone for ff info. I do pay for my stats service/league management software, but thats a different type of info imo.
8. Have you ever used KFFL's "Hot off the Wire" in conjunction with "the Gridiron Newsstand"?
what. Like to verify a story? No. Read about it on KFFL and then use the TGN to go to that cities sources for more info, yes
9. What other alternative "Hot Wire"-type or "Newsstand"-type services are out there/do you use/would you recommend? (Feel free to provide links!) How would rank them from 1 to 10?
Fantasysharks has a player news feature that is different. I didn't get into using it as much as I thought this last season, but, they run an informative sight. Their main draw for me is that they are the home of Tony Holm.I've followed his Progno for years. the link would be www.fantasysharks.com
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Re: Survey: KFFL's Hot off the Wire!
« Reply #6 on: Mar 29th, 2003, 11:11am » |
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1. N/A
2. N/A
3. N/A
4. N/A
5. N/A
6. no
7. no
8. no
(I think I've visited the KFFL Hotwire maybe once in my life...)
9. In season, I use the CBSSportsline feeds because my fantasy league hosting site uses them (cnnsi.com). They're not very timely and they pick and choose amongst the stories, often missing many. (Rating: 3.5)
Off season I use TheRedZone.org (didn't know about it until the end of this past season). I find it to be a very good site. It has timely news and tends to cover most of the stories I'm interested in. I also like their lists on the right hand side of the page. Often they have stuff I'm interested in (salary cap numbers, free agent lists, strength of schedule, schedule rotation, etc.) that I can't find anywhere else. (Rating: 8.5)
I also check out nfl.com and espn.com once in a while (a lot less frequently than I used to.)
Sorry I couldn't help you with the kffl info you wanted. It's just not part of my routine.
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Re: Survey: KFFL's Hot off the Wire!
« Reply #8 on: Mar 29th, 2003, 4:54pm » |
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on Mar 29th, 2003, 4:50pm, Walker Boh wrote:| Now that I'm aware of KFFL, I'll check it out and get back to you. |
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Uhhhh! Thanks, Walker, but you don't have to waste your time! It is a decent resource, but...
..."SHOCK  AND AWE  " is coming... on to "the Gridiron"! 
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Re: Survey: KFFL's Hot off the Wire!
« Reply #12 on: Mar 30th, 2003, 10:10pm » |
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There was a purpose to this thread. I agree with many of you who rate "KFFL's Hot off the Wire" highly. I, as indicated above, do, too. It may have been the undisputed #1 heretofore. However, there is a change brewing on "the Gridiron Newsstand" that will alter that landscape. It is not at all the same. But, much more than "Hot off the Wire" ever did, "the Gridiron Newsstand" will act as a "One-stop shop and home base for fantasy football information!" This should become the ONE (and really only) page you need to bookmark when it comes to your daily FF diet! I have put a lot of effort into this project and I only hope that it helps you all have success on the fantasy football gridiron and, moreover, as it was specifically made with YOU all in mind, gets appreciated. Well, let me get on it... Get ready to begin the new week of the rest of your fantasy football lives...
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Re: Problems @ KFFL!?!?
« Reply #13 on: Jun 22nd, 2003, 4:56pm » |
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Just in case you were wondering, I did tweak the topic of this thread so as to ask this question here.
Anyway, when visiting KFFL.com, do any of you also get that "Run-time at Line 120" error? I get it every time I hover over the links they have on the left side, making it so I cannot access them. I can only access the links they have to the right, which include "Hot Off The Wire", by the way. 
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Re: Problems @ KFFL!?!?
« Reply #14 on: Jun 22nd, 2003, 7:47pm » |
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1. Would you consider KFFL one of the most popular and successful fantasy football information sites? From 1 to 10, with 1 being low and 10 being high, how would you rank their popularity?
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2. From 1 to 10, how would you rank KFFL "overall" (if you use a preponderance of their services) or "in general" (from what you can tell by what you do use, including assessing layout, format, interface, etc., etc.)?
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Their news feeds are not really that good IMO. They do break some big stories on their own, but they also post a lot of speculation in what I think is just BS their writers make up.
3. Would you consider KFFL's "Hot off the Wire" one of the more, if not the most, popular single resources on the internet, at least with regards to fast information dissemination? From 1 to 10, how would you rank its popularity?
9.. same as the site
4. From 1 to 10, how would you rank KFFL's "Hot off the Wire"?
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Good for the timeliness, but bad because of the BS they post
5. From 1 to 10, to what degree do you think KFFL's popularity and success is tied to "Hot off the Wire"?
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6. Do you visit/use any of the other features KFFL provides for FREE? If so, which ones? And, how would you rank them from 1 to 10?
I don't even visit kffl anymore.
7. Do you use/subscribe to any of KFFL's pay services? If so, which ones? And, how would you rank them from 1 to 10?
Hell no.
8. Have you ever used KFFL's "Hot off the Wire" in conjunction with "the Gridiron Newsstand"?
Nope.
9. What other alternative "Hot Wire"-type or "Newsstand"-type services are out there/do you use/would you recommend? (Feel free to provide links!) How would rank them from 1 to 10?
ESPN, Fanball, and Google Searches do well for me.
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Re: Problems @ KFFL!?!?
« Reply #17 on: Jun 23rd, 2003, 12:17am » |
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It appears the problem was on my end. I reinstalled my browser and it was okay, though I still have some problems on other sites. Like, e.g, does anybody get the "Runtime Line 0, 144, etc., etc." error when they visit Jon's FFFL site located at http://www.geocities.com/geniuswithwords/fffhomepage.htm?
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Re: Problems @ KFFL!?!?
« Reply #18 on: Jun 23rd, 2003, 8:16am » |
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on Jun 23rd, 2003, 12:17am, StegRock wrote:| It appears the problem was on my end. I reinstalled my browser and it was okay, though I still have some problems on other sites. Like, e.g, does anybody get the "Runtime Line 0, 144, etc., etc." error when they visit Jon's FFFL site located at http://www.geocities.com/geniuswithwords/fffhomepage.htm? |
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That's a negative Sergeant. 
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