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Re: Turning it over
« Reply #2 on: Jul 29th, 2003, 1:39pm » |
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on Jul 29th, 2003, 1:19pm, KillerKingSting wrote:I'm not sure if this has already been done but, if not then, I would like to see if there is any interest out there for a new type of league. (most likely next season)
Basically, its an all-out IDP league.
Only play IDPs, (9 to 11 guys) , ONE Offensive Position (team offense totalling points scored and yards) and just for kicks , a punter position.
Though most of you probably already have , this might be a great way for players who haven't yet experienced IDPs to get their feet wet and see if they like it.
Just a thought.
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GREAT  idea, brother!  You got my complete support as admin here. It might be a little tough gettin' guys at this point (and with the announcement of the commencement of the GBRFL2 right around the corner), but let's see what we can do. I love the idea of establishing leagues with unique and innovative rules structures on "the Gridiron". If you/we can get it together, I'll definitely set you up with a message board.  It's the least I can do! 
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Re: Turning it over
« Reply #4 on: Jul 29th, 2003, 7:31pm » |
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I've actually been working on this xcoring system for a while. See what you all think (though I think its not going over to well)
Tackles = 1 pt.
Assts = 0.5 pts.
DLine tackles = 1.5 pts.
Pass defense = 2 pts.
Sacks = 4 pts.
Force Fumble = 4 pts.
Fumble Recovery = 5 pts.
Interceptions = 6 pts.
Safetys = 8 pts.
Blocks = 8 pts.
Return yards (rewarded to indiv. player) = 1 pt per 10 yds. (includes kick,punt, & turnover return yards - bump up Champ Bailey).
Sack yards = 1 pt per 5 yds.
Team win (If the player's NFL team wins) = 2 pts. to the individual player.
(I do this to buffer the fact that perhaps lesser LBs will get more tackles because they are on a bad defense that has to stay on trhe field longer thus resulting in more tackle oppurtunitys - perhaps the reason why they are on the field longer and get more tackles is because, they aren't as good as defensive players who aren't on the field as long - also point in case , take Al Wilson for example. When his team won last season, he averaged 2 tackles LESS than if his team lost. So give or take, 2 tackles seems to make up for that.
Also, we can use the player's NFL team points allowed just as a Team defense does as such
7 to 13 pts. allowed = +1 pt to player.
2 - 6 pts allowed = +2 pts per player.
0 (zero) pts. allowed = +4 pts per player.
Obviously I am not going to over board with buffering the point system for players who are on great defenses (they are great defenses for a reason, because they have great defensive players), but I am allowing for the Bigger name players to shine a bit more than , some unheard of guy on the cardinals who racks up the tackles just because the Cards can't or couldn't do much to keep their offense on the field longer (no offense to Card Fans, just trying to explain my rationale).
Roster size would be anywhere from 18 - 20 defensive players (not including Team Offense/Steam Position or Punter).
Starting line-ups would be 3-3-3 DL, LB, DB respectively.
Just as on the offensive side of the ball in some leagues, a mandatory CB would have to be in the line-up (as to mimic the mandatory TE).
Flexible line-ups can be considered if everyobe agrees perhaps, can take ONE player away from a position and add it to another (ie: 2-4-3 or 3-2-4 or 3-2-4 etc....)
Punters would score like this : +4 pts per Inside the 20 punt. +1 pt per fair catch. (-1) pt per Touch back. (-3) pts per block.
The Offensive/Steam position would reflect what is done with the DT position in a basic league using total points scored and total yards gained.
All this is up for discussion. Please post any interest and or ideas!!!!!!!!!! Be as creative as you can!!
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Re: Turning it over
« Reply #11 on: Jul 30th, 2003, 7:41am » |
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Well, I'm a bit computer illiterate here so, I have no idea how to copy someone's last post so that I can answer it like others do (is it a copy & paste thing? that I can do but, how do you do more than one AND how do you get the words in bold print?).
At any rate, please excuse my ignorance and I'll just do my best to answer so far, what I have read
To Philly = about a defensive TD = +10 pts for a LB/DB & +12 for a DL. Sorry, meant to post that before. 
Also on the question regarding sack yardage, NFL.com provides that information. It doesn't necessarily provide how many yards EACH separate sack detailed but gives the player's numbers of sacks and then, their sack yardage! Kool Huh!?
As far as tallying up the stats, not to worry, be my pleasure to do so. Although, there are weeks in which I work Monday & tuesday nights (its every other week, I might try and change shifts with someone though) and so, there might be a problem with me getting the stats and final results out till wensday morning. But I can try and do it tuesday morning after I arrive home from work.
If everyone could care less about the Team Offensive/Steam position then, maybe we should go with 11 IDPs instead of 9? Just a thought. It would offer alot of formation variation. And we could have a mandatory rule as to start a CB & DT , one each.
If we get enough hits then, maybe we can even do it this season but, if we fall short then, next year is just as good. We'll just keep pounding away at the idea and forming things to our likings. Also, what to call the league is another thing we should tackle.
I know next season I can get at least one other guy from my league if not 2. So that would make me, 2 others from my league, Philly, Dirk, & Bob. 6 so far, thats not a bad start at all! A few more and it'll be official. And ole Stegster might help us out as well!!!!!!
By the way, how many owners do you all want? 8-10-12?
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Re: Turning it over
« Reply #21 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 11:30am » |
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Every league should have a goal(s).
This league's goal will be to "educate interested Owners on players we hardly ever use".
The levels of emphasis with regards to our goal will be as such :
IDPs = (defensive players!!) Most emphasis!!!!!!!
RS = (return specialists) , players who usually return kick-offs (not to be mixed with Punt returners), hardly ever do much of anything else. But they could be fantasy sleepers in years to come, and/or already do contribute to their teams in a multi-facited role (ie: Antwan Randle El, etc).
P = (punters) , yes, they provide a vital role in field position. An inside the 20ydl punt is priceless. A high hang time that allows NO returns (ala fair catch) is frustrating for return teams. Much as you might sneer at this player, he is an important part of the game.
On the next message I will post the rules in regards to scoring, roster size, rules within the season, and so forth.
I might present some options for certain rules so that we can vote on them. Just remember, this is a new league and therefore WE are the ones that will build it from here!!!! Its our baby!!
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Re: Turning it over
« Reply #22 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 11:51am » |
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OK here are the rules I decided on.
They are all up to vote and unanimous tallys gets the nod.
Even though I will be the commish on this league, I don't feel like I should be the "tell-all" since, this is a new league and I would like it to take the shape of all our membranes (members).
However, I have done ALOT of research regarding the IDPs and so, as differences in opinion arise, I will post my researched information & rationale and I urge you all to take it into consideration.
First , we need a league name. Since the "goal" of this league is to educate us on players hardly used arounsd the FF world, perhaps the "forgotten ones", if you will, I vote to call it "Amnesia".
Please, everyonepost a name you would like this new league to be called, and lets vote on it!!
Also, we need team names so, I am going with the Nostrailian SnotKnockers! Its a hard hitting defensive name! And its kind of funny too!
Lets hear everyone else's names!
Next post = rules
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Re: Turning it over
« Reply #23 on: Aug 2nd, 2003, 12:21pm » |
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[quote author=KillerKingSting link=board=56;num=1059499147;start=0#22 date=08/02/03 at 11:51:09]OK here are the rules I decided on.
They are all up to vote and unanimous tallys gets the nod.
Even though I will be the commish on this league, I don't feel like I should be the "tell-all" since, this is a new league and I would like it to take the shape of all our membranes (members).
However, I have done ALOT of research regarding the IDPs and so, as differences in opinion arise, I will post my researched information & rationale and I urge you all to take it into consideration.
Draft order = serpentine , re-draft league. If we decide to ever make this a keeper league then, we can discuss that at that time. For now, I think a re-draft is best for a new league.
Anyone have any ideas on the order of picks? Perhaps a lottery or first come first serve type of deal? Please vote!
Rosters = 22 players. My thinking here is 2 players to choose from per starting line-up spots. Which are 9 IDPs, 1 RS, 1 Punter.
Can NOT have more than 26 players and no less than 18 players at any time during the season on your roster.
No restrictions on who you have on your rosters.
((Defense scoring)))
***Tackles
Solo Tackles = 1 pt.
Assts = 0.5 pts.
DLINE Solo tackles = 1.5 pts.
Pass defensed = 2 pts.
Sacks = 4 pts. (1/2 sack = 2).
***Big Plays
Forced Fumbles = 4 pts.
Fumble recoverys = 5 pts.
Interceptions = 6 pts.
Safetys = 8 pts.
TDs = 10 pts.
DLINE TDs = 12 pts.
***Yardage
Sack yardage = 1 pt. per 5 yards.
Turnover yardage = 1 pt per 10 yards. (includes int & fum returns or laterals on a defensive play).
***Special teams
Tackles = 2 pts.
Assts = 1 pt.
FF = 5 pts.
FR = 6 pts.
Blocks = 8 pts.
TD = 10 pts. (includes any type of STEAM TD.).
***Steam Yards
Punt Ret = 1 pt per 10 yards.
Kick Return = 1 pt per 20 yards.
***Punter
Inside 20 ydl = 4 pts.
Fair catch = 1 pt. (makes opponent's return man fair catch ball).
Touch Back = (-1) pt.
Blocked = (-3). pts.
***Offense stats
6 pts per TD.
1 pt per 10 yd rush/rec.
1 pt per 20 yds pass.
***Staring Line-Ups =
9 IDPs = 3-3-3 meaning 3 DL, 3 LB, & 3 DBs (with a MANDATORY CB as one of the DBs).
1 RS = must be a KICK returner (not Punt). He will also get all stats included in any other area of football he attributes to (ie : offense, Punt returns, defense, other Steam play).
1 Punter = see rules above.
All players are INDIVIDUAL and not positional draft picks.
***Flex line-ups.
May move ONE player from either position of your defense onto another position (ie : 2 DL, 3 LB, 4 DBs or 3 DL, 2 LB 4 DBs, or 3 DL, 4 LBs, 2 DBs etc etc.)
***Free Agency
I don't like the first come first serve format. I'm much too busy for that to be able to survive in any league. I also don't like the worst to first format. Rewarding owners who aren't doing their homework only contributes to the luck factor.
I suggest either a order that is OPPOSITE from the draft order.
Or, giving ourselves Fantasy Dollars (fake money) and using the blind Bid method where, each owner sends in a bid on each player during the seaon and highest bidder gets the player.
As always, add one, drop one.
***Post season, regular seasonal schedules***
Ok, here is where I will need alot of input. In all leagues I ever ran, we always playede the FULL regular NFL season (excluding the 17th week) and had our play-offs in the 16th week and the championship in the post seasonal NFL play-offs.
If you guys want to go with the "norm" on this, meaning we play only the regular season games, have our play-off and championship in the regular season then, thats fine with me. I just need some input.
If you all want to hear thge way I have always done it then, post me and I'll respond.
Trophy??, any ideas?? please post. Thanks, if by chance I have left anything out, then, let me know. I'm almost sure I have as I am typing right now, I just thought of another thing.
I have always done all my drafts via the phone. If you all want to do it another way, I'm game. Let me know.
Thanks!!! I'll get a sixth player from somewhere and then, we can go from there!!
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