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Philly's Mock NFL Draft, version 1.1
« on: Jan 27th, 2004, 12:39pm »
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Here's a newer, post-Senior Bowl version.  As always, thoughts and discussion are welcomed!  
 
 
 

# TEAM PLAYER POS. SCHOOL COMMENTS
1 Chargers Eli Manning QB Mississippi This is the franchise QB that Leaf and Brees were not.
2 Raiders Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh Pairs with Jerry Porter to form a formidable WR corps.
3 Cardinals Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami (OH) Did he play for more fans in college than he will in AZ?
4 Giants Robert Gallery OT Iowa Gallery could be the best player in the NFL draft, period.
5 Redskins Kellen Winslow, Jr. TE Miami Gibbs begins his second tour with an outstanding TE.
6 Lions Sean Taylor S Miami Lions needed lots of help in the defensive secondary.
7 Falcons* Chris Gamble CB Ohio St. There's no risk with Gamble, he has great size and speed.
8 Browns* Shawn Andrews OT Arkansas Browns may also trade up to #2 to grab Roethlisberger.
9 Jaguars Roy Williams WR Texas Gives Leftwich a young WR to grow with.
10 Texans Tommie Harris DT Oklahoma Texans desperately need help on their defensive line.
11 Steelers Stephen Jackson RB Oregon St. Cowher grabs best overall RB in the draft.
12 Jets Reggie Williams WR Wash. St. Takes over for the disappointing Curtis Conway.
13 Bills Kenechi Udeze DE USC Big pass rusher improves an already-impressive defense.
14 Bears Vince Wilfork DT Miami Clogs the middle and makes Urlacher more effective.
15 Buccaneers Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech Quality RB falls to the Bucs.
16 49ers DeAngelo Hall CB Virginia Tech Very fast, very aggressive, but smallish and a bit raw still.
17 Bengals DJ Williams LB Miami Puts the Bengals into the play-offs in 2004.
18 Saints Derrick Strait CB Oklahoma Tremendous CB fills a weak-spot for the Saints.
19 Vikings Will Smith DE Ohio St. Increased pass rush helps entire defense.
20 Dolphins Philip Rivers QB NC State Played himself into the #3 overall QB position.
21 Patriots** Greg Jones RB Florida St. Monster RB has climbed the charts recently.
22 Cowboys Nat Dorsey OT Georgia Tech Will open plenty of holes for a new Cowboys RB.
23 Seahawks Antwan Odom DE Alabama Big pass rush specialist fills big need for Seahawk D.
24 Broncos Michael Clayton WR LSU Broncos surprised he fell this far, grabs best player available.
25 Packers JP Losman QB Tulane Another strong-armed, mobile Bayou QB heads north.
26 Rams Vernon Carey OG Miami Versatile lineman adds strength to weakening offensive line.
27 Titans Karlos Dansby LB Auburn Fills an area of need for the Titans, who don't have many.
28 Eagles Randy Starks DT Maryland Eagles miss out on Dansby, but get a big plugger in the middle.
29 Colts Darnell Dockett DT Florida St. Athletic DT will join Freeney to form a very fast defensive line.
30 Chiefs Rashaun Woods WR Oklahoma St. Despite needs on defense, Chiefs can't pass him up.
31 Panthers*** Michael Jenkins WR Ohio St. Big WR will be nice complement to Steve Smith.
32 Patriots*** Chris Snee OG BC Local kid makes good.  Mean OG could start as a rookie.

 
 
* Draft order to be determined by a coin flip.
** Acquired the pick from Baltimore.
*** Draft order to be determined by Super Bowl winner.
                                                                       
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Re: Philly's Mock NFL Draft, version 1.1
« Reply #1 on: Jan 27th, 2004, 6:29pm »
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Great job.  A few general thoughts:
 
First, I do not think the Redskins will takea TE.  They need way too much D-line help.  
I see them taking Udeze or Tommie Harris.  
 
Second, why do you have Stephen Jackson over Kevin Jones?  Every report I have seen has Jones going first.  I am especially surprised because I think Jones fits Pittsburghs style better.
 
Third, this draft looks good for keepers.  4 QBs, 3 RB, and lots of WR especially versus last year when the top RB taken wasn't even going to play and the other one was stuck behind Priest Holmes.  
 
 
 
 
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on Jan 27th, 2004, 6:29pm, DirkDiggler wrote:
Great job.  A few general thoughts:
 
First, I do not think the Redskins will take a TE.  They need way too much D-line help.  
I see them taking Udeze or Tommie Harris.

I honestly thought they would grab one of the RBs available, but word from the Senior Bowl indicated a ton of interest in Winslow.  I personally wouldn't do it, but apparently Gibbs wants a pass-catching TE (certainly a need).  And the draft is very deep with DTs (might be the best position along with WR), so they can get a stud in the second round.
  
 
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Second, why do you have Stephen Jackson over Kevin Jones?  Every report I have seen has Jones going first.  I am especially surprised because I think Jones fits Pittsburghs style better.

Many people feel that Stephen Jackson is the better RB.  He is bigger and probably more durable over the long haul.
 
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Third, this draft looks good for keepers.  4 QBs, 3 RB, and lots of WR especially versus last year when the top RB taken wasn't even going to play and the other one was stuck behind Priest Holmes.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, JP Losman, and one more QB end up starting in the NFL in the next few years.  There are some seriously good WRs in this draft too.  Then you have 3-4 starting RBs in this draft as well, though it isn't really a position of strength this year. 
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Not a bad mock draft, about the same as all the others out there.
 
Some notes from myself.
1. Larry Fitzgerald won't be pairing with Joey Porter because Joey doesn't play WR, he's a OLB for the Steelers.
 
2. J.P. Losman probably won't be a first round pick and the same can be said for Phillip Rivers.  
 
3. For some odd reason I think the Chargers are going to trade the #1 over all pick. I just have a feeling about that.
 
4. Norv Turner is going to pass on Fitzgerald and go for Roethlisberger, he like to develop young QB's
 
5. I think Winslow may end up with the Redskins because they can't stretch the middle of the field.
 
 
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I too think the Chargers will trade the pick.  This is based on nothing but hunch.  Marty is a coach on a short leash.  I do not think he can stick around for a young QB to develop.  The likely trade canidate?  My guess is the Cards.  They will move up two spots to take Manning.
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on Jan 29th, 2004, 4:34pm, #1 Steelers Fan wrote:
Not a bad mock draft, about the same as all the others out there.
 
Some notes from myself.
1. Larry Fitzgerald won't be pairing with Joey Porter because Joey doesn't play WR, he's a OLB for the Steelers.

My bad... Jerry Porter.
 
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2. J.P. Losman probably won't be a first round pick and the same can be said for Phillip Rivers.

One of the two will go in the first round.  They might not be the most appealing QBs around, but there are so many teams that need one.  I think the Dolphins are very high on Rivers, but chances are that he won't be around when they pick in round 2.  
 
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3. For some odd reason I think the Chargers are going to trade the #1 over all pick. I just have a feeling about that.

I didn't include any trades in the mock.  They're just too difficult to predict.  But the Bolts have a bunch of needs and could trade down.  It's very tough to predict the 1st pick this year because the Chargers (if they stay put) need a QB, a WR, some O-linemen, some more defense...
 
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4. Norv Turner is going to pass on Fitzgerald and go for Roethlisberger, he like to develop young QB's.
Here's a rumor for you... Oakland dumps Gannon next year (he is too expensive) and signs Mark Brunell.  Norv Turner was one of the proponents of the Brunell-to-Miami talk before he took the job in Oakland.
 
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5. I think Winslow may end up with the Redskins because they can't stretch the middle of the field.
I think they have bigger needs than TE... If I was Joe Gibbs, I'd seriously look at Kenechi Udeze, one of the RBs, or even Sean Taylor.
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