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2004 CBFL Cheatsheets/Commentary Thread
« on: Jun 13th, 2004, 9:14pm » |
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On this, the very first post of this thread, I will maintain position-by-position cheatsheets. This will also act as our commentary thread. Don't put comments on the picks thread on the CBFL board! Put them here! Thank you! 
Cheatsheets
(To view the actual draft, go to:
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=54;a ction=display;num=1087175612.)
QB's
1. Daunte Culpepper - Vikings
2. Peyton Manning - Colts
3. Michael Vick - Falcons
4. Donovan McNabb - Eagles
5. Matt Hasselbeck - Seahawks
6. Marc Bulger - Rams
7. Trent Green - Chiefs
8. Chad Pennington - Jets
9. Tom Brady - Patriots
10. Brett Favre - Packers
11. Steve McNair - Titans
12. Aaron Brooks - Saints
13. Jake Plummer - Broncos
14. Jake Delhomme - Panthers
15. Jeff Garcia - Browns
16. Joey Harrington - Lions
17. Brad Johnson - Buccaneers
18. Carson Palmer - Bengals
19. Byron Leftwich - Jaguars
20. Josh McCown - Cardinals
21. Drew Bledsoe - Bills
22. David Carr - Texans
23. Tommy Maddox - Steelers
24. Mark Brunell - Jaguars
25. Rich Gannon - Raiders
26. Kyle Boller - Ravens
27. A. J. Feeley - Dolphins
RB's
1. Priest Holmes - Chiefs
2. Deuce McAllister - Saints
3. LaDainian Tomlinson - Chargers
4. Clinton Portis - Redskins
5. Jamal Lewis - Ravens
6. Ahman Green - Packers
7. Shaun Alexander - Seahawks
8. Ricky Williams - Dolphins
9. Kevan Barlow - 49ers
10. Fred Taylor - Jaguars
11. Edgerrin James - Colts
12. Domanick Davis - Texans
13. Travis Henry - Bills
14. Marshall Faulk - Rams
15. Rudi Johnson - Bengals
16. Corey Dillon - Patriots
17. Michael Bennett - Vikings
18. Kevin Jones - Lions
19. Brian Westbrook - Eagles
20. Julius Jones - Cowboys
21. Tiki Barber - Giants
22. Stephen Davis - Panthers
23. Curtis Martin - Jets
24. Marcel Shipp - Cardinals
25. Duce Staley - Steelers
26. Charlie Garner - Buccaneers
27. TJ Duckett - Falcons
28. Thomas Jones - Bears
29. Lee Suggs - Browns
30. Correll Buckhalter - Eagles
31. Warrick Dunn - Falcons
32. Eddie George - Titans
33. Onterrio Smith - Vikings
34. Justin Fargas - Raiders
35. Tatum Bell - Broncos
36. DeShaun Foster - Panthers
37. Willis McGahee - Bills
38. Chris Brown - Titans
39. William Green - Browns
40. LaMont Jordan - Jets
41. Quentin Griffin - Broncos
42. Anthony Thomas - Bears
43. Garrison Hearst - Broncos
44. Steven Jackson - Rams
45. Mike Alstott - Buccaneers
46. Tyrone Wheatley - Raiders
47. Dominic Rhodes - Colts
48. Greg Jones - Jaguars
49. Musa Smith - Ravens
50. Chris Perry - Bengals
51. Najeh Davenport - Packers
WR's
1. Randy Moss - Vikings
2. Tory Holt - Rams
3. Marvin Harrison - Colts
4. Terrell Owens - Eagles
5. Hines Ward - Steelers
6. Chad Johnson - Bengals
7. Steve Smith - Panthers
8. Joe Horn - Saints
9. Anquan Boldin - Cardinals
10. Santana Moss - Jets
11. Laveranues Coles - Redskins
12. Derrick Mason - Titans
13. Andre Johnson - Texans
14. Jimmy Smith - Jaguars
15. Eric Moulds - Bills
16. Koren Robinson - Seahawks
17. Peerless Price - Falcons
18. Darrell Jackson - Seahawks
19. Charles Rogers - Lions
20. Javon Walker - Packers
21. Chris Chambers - Dolphins
22. Amani Toomer - Giants
23. Jerry Porter - Raiders
24. Rod Smith - Broncos
25. Larry Fitzgerald - Cardinals
26. Plaxico Burress - Steelers
27. Marty Booker - Bears
28. Justin McCareins - Jets
29. Isaac Bruce - Rams
30. David Boston - Dolphins
31. Ashley Lelie - Broncos
32. Daunte Stallworth - Saints
33. Keenan McCardell - Buccaneers
34. Marcus Robinson - Vikings
35. Keyshawn Johnson - Cowboys
36. David Givens - Patriots
37. Reggie Wayne - Colts
38. Donald Driver - Packers
39. Brandon Lloyd - 49ers
40. Andre Davis - Browns
41. Roy Williams - Lions
42. Deion Branch - Patriots
43. Peter Warrick - Bengals
44. Drew Bennett - Titans
45. Quincy Morgan - Browns
46. Reggie Williams - Jaguars
47. Eddie Kennison - Chiefs
48. Rod Gardner - Redskins
49. Kevin Johnson - Ravens
50. Joey Galloway - Buccaneers
51. Dennis Northcutt - Browns
52. Travis Taylor - Ravens
53. Tyrone Calico - Titans
54. Muhsin Muhammad - Panthers
TE's
1. Tony Gonzalez - Chiefs
2. Todd Heap - Ravens
3. Jeremy Shockey - Giants
4. Kellen Winslow - Browns
5. Alge Crumpler - Falcons
6. Boo Williams - Saints
7. Randy McMichael - Dolphins
8. Dallas Clark - Colts
9. Bubba Franks - Packers
10. Freddie Jones - Cardinals
11. Antonio Gates - Chargers
12. Marcus Pollard - Colts
13. Itula Mili - Seahawks
14. Jim Kleinsasser - Vikings
15. Daniel Graham - Patriots
16. Desmond Clark - Bears
17. Byron Chamberlain - Broncos
18. Jason Witten - Cowboys
19. Erron Kinney - Titans
20. L. J. Smith - Eagles
21. Billy Miller - Texans
22. Anthony Becht - Jets
23. Ben Troupe - Titans
24. Christian Fauria - Patriots
PK's
1. Mike Vanderjagt - Colts
2. Jeff Wilkins - Rams
3. Jason Elam - Broncos
4. David Akers - Eagles
5. Adam Vinatieri - Patriots
6. John Kasay - Panthers
7. Matt Stover - Ravens
8. Josh Brown - Seahawks
9. Ryan Longwell - Packers
10. Jay Feely - Falcons
11. Olindo Mare - Dolphins
12. Paul Edinger - Bears
13. Sebastian Janikowski - Raiders
14. Aaron Elling - Vikings
15. John Hall - Redskins
16. John Carney - Chargers
17. Billy Cundiff - Cowboys
18. Jason Hansen - Lions
19. Morten Andersen - Chiefs
20. Shayne Graham - Giants
21. Martin Gramatica - Buccaneers
22. Doug Brien - Jets
23. Joe Nedney - Titans
24. Seth Marler - Jaguars
D/ST
1. Baltimore Ravens
2. New England Patriots
3. Philadelphia Eagles
4. Carolina Panthers
5. Dallas Cowboys
6. Miami Dolphins
7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
8. Denver Broncos
9. Oakland Raiders
10. Minnesota Vikings
11. Kansas City Chiefs
12. Jacksonville Jaguars
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Re: 2004 CBFL Cheatsheets/Commentary Thread
« Reply #15 on: Jun 15th, 2004, 3:19pm » |
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on Jun 15th, 2004, 3:11pm, sexydexy wrote:I see some ridiculous things in this draft so far. This is my criticism, mind you but here goes...
LT2 at number 3? Whatever the guy who picked Deuce was smoking, tell him I'll take two! |
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I'm with ya on this one, but I've never been a Deuce fan and I'm the recipient of LT2, so all is cool with me!
Quote:| Daunte Culpepper in the first round? Is this the same guy that got injured last year and the same guy that was nicknamed the "Human Turnover" not 2 years ago? |
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Too early in my opinion. He went 2.10 last season in this same league.
Quote:| Culpepper ahead of Manning?! Manning plays 16 games! Culpepper missed games last year. Manning puts up comparable numbers to Culpepper in points per game AND he plays more games. |
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If Culpepper stays healthy, he is the clear #1 QB. He will throw for 4000 yards (+/-) plus he can run the ball and score that way too.
Quote:| Michael Vick the number 3 QB? Yeah, maybe if he can hit the broadside of the barn and not get injured. I'd easily take a Trent Green or Hasselbeck over Vick. |
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Vick is valuable in this league because of his rushing yards/TDs. I question his ability to stay healthy and also to adjust to a new offense this season.
Quote:| I also don't understand Barlow going so high. All Fred Taylor has done is put up numbers while playing all his team's games the last 2 years. And Edge...he has an injury past but when healthy, he puts up stud numbers. Barlow is too much of a question mark. |
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Barlow will get the TDs that Fred has NO shot at getting. Remember that the Jags drafted a vulture in Greg Jones this year. Plus Fred stayed healthy all last year which means the odds against another healthy season are against him. Edge should be a stud this season.
Quote:| Holt before Harrison?! Let's see, the most consistent fantasy football WR (along with Moss, mind you) or a guy who put up one huge year...hmmmmmmm... |
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I owned (and rode) Torry Holt in one of my leagues last year, but I'd still go Marvin before Torry just because you know Marvin will get his.
Quote:| That's all I got for now. I'm sure I'll be more critical as it goes along. But then again, I am a critic more often than not. |
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Keep it coming! (As long as it isn't directed at me...  )... Heh, just kidding, I love criticism.
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Re: 2004 CBFL Cheatsheets/Commentary Thread
« Reply #18 on: Jun 15th, 2004, 6:02pm » |
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Sorry to be so long in answering, guys. This is the first time I got to this thread. Just too busy. I work too hard for my filthy lucre.
As for the LT2/Deuce thing, my rankings went LT2, Priest & Deuce or Deuce then Priest. The reason I did NOT take LT2 when I could (which I planned to do if I could when setting up this year) was the SD melt down I've been hearing about from my West Coast friends. Worse than anything I read on the web. (They're looking for another thing like last year's Raiders - break my heart.) I was concerned he'd be boom or bust. This was the overall second pick. This league has no trades or waiver wire, live or die by what you start with. Priest was gone, no big deal. It was LT2 or Deuce. You can't always go by the last year's performance in the 21st century NFL. You go with what you project for this year. (I look for a break-out year for Deuce, call me crazy, time will tell, razz me later if you're right, I will buy you a drink and crown you King, with a great big smile on my face.  ) It could all be the usual AFC West smoke & mirrors (a nod to Steg). They love that stuff out there. This was my call and I'm stickin' to it.
As for a QB so early, had no intention of doing that until the top tier guys started disappearing. I wanted one, if I could get one. There are a lot of WR's out there, and every year WR's below the elite just pop right up and surprise, they are fragile sometimes, and you all know this already. The elite QBs above McNabb were gone, T.O. is in the house, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a bunch of rushing yards out of McNabb. (Hope I got all the scoring system right!)
Any questions? Fire away! 
P.S. I keep what I smoke for me and whoever I crown King.
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Re: 2004 CBFL Cheatsheets/Commentary Thread
« Reply #22 on: Jun 15th, 2004, 8:01pm » |
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A few comments.
1. Consistency is not a virtue in this league. You want players that absolutely explode and when they are off are way off. The best ball format makes it so that the whole idea of consistency is turned on its head. An interesting sidebar to this is that, surprisingly, Culpepper is an extremely consistent QB while Manning is erratic.
2. I took Vick because I think this will be his year. He is still young enough to get huge rushing stats, but starting to get wise enough to be a better QB. His WR corps is much better than before. Basically I wanted to be a Vick owner and experience the excitement on an elevated level when I watched him play. Not every pick I make is based solely on winning/losing. I want guys I like to watch play and I root for.
3. No real reaches so far, but the QBs are really close to being reaches (including my pick of Vick).
4. According to Average Draft Position, Stephen Davis and Marshall Faulk are the best values so far.
5. Although Callie is one of the 'guys' around here, and certainly knows her football as well as any guy, she is never a 'him'.
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Re: 2004 CBFL Cheatsheets/Commentary Thread
« Reply #23 on: Jun 15th, 2004, 8:16pm » |
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Overall, I don't think it has been as bad as sd, observing from the outside, thinks. THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, I feel obliged to say that, in general, Stephen Davis's falling to the end of the third round, especially behind the likes of rookie RB's Kevin and Julius Jones, is pretty preposterous and unjustifiable. 
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