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Grading the 2005 cheats
« on: Jan 6th, 2006, 6:22pm »
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Heres what I did. I took the top ten statistical players in the presented categories and compared them with the consensus rankings provided by Junk Yard Jake. This is in no means an indictment of JYJ. This was put together by consensus of:
 
Consensus Rankings are compiled from the following sites: Football Guys , Yahoo Sports , Sporting News , Fox Sports , About.Com, FFToolBox.Com , FFToday.Com , FantasySharks.Com , AskTheCommish.Com
 
I can tell you that my Sheets at FF weekly followed right along with the consensus. The info I compared the rankings with was provided by NFL.com. I usually do this type of comparison as a way of grading my preseason cheat sheets. This time as I was grading my info, I found this years cheats were very inaccurate. I hope this is clear enough to follow along.  
 
http://www.junkyardjake.com/ManOnTheStreet/overall.htm
 
 
Passing yards  
 
 NFL. Com  Top 10      Consensus Ranking
 
 
1.Tom Brady         12
2.Trent Green       4
3.Brett Farve         6      
4.Carson Palmer    13
5.Eli Manning       26
6.Kerry Collins       9
7.Payton Manning    1
8.Drew Bledsoe      23
9.Drew Brees         14
10.Matt Hasselbeck   11
 
Note*
 The consensus ranking is just QB rankings. Not overall. Tom Brady was ranked as the 12th best QB by the rankings.
 
Passing Touchdowns
 
1.Carson Palmer      13
2.Payton Manning    1
3.Tom Brady       12
4.Drew Brees      14  
5.Matt Hasselbeck      11
6.Eli Manning      26
7.Jake Delhomme   15  
8.Drew Bledsoe      23
9.Mark Brunell       38
10.Kerry Collins       9
 
Note*
Only 2 of the actual top ten were projected to be in the top 10
 
Rushing Yards
 
Shaun Alexander       2
Tiki Barber     10
Larry Johnson     35
Clinton Portis      11
Edge James      3
Lad Tomlinson     1
Rudi Johnson      13
Warrick Dunn     22
Thomas Jones     33
Willis McGahee       5
 
 
Rushing Touchdowns
 
Shaun Alexander   2
Larry Johnson      35
Lad Tomlinson      1
Edge James       3
Corey Dillon    8
Rudi Johnson      13
Mike Anderson   77
Stephen Davis     47
Clinton Portis     11
Jerome Bettis      36
 
Note*  
Mike Anderson at 77 was actually figured behind Maurice Clarrett.
 
Receiving Yards
 
Steve Smith   18
Santana Moss     29
Chad Johnson      3
Larry Fitzgerald  28
Anquan Bolden  14
Torry Holt     4
Joey Galloway  47
Donald Driver   17
Plax Burress      37
Marvin Harrison     5
 
Receiving Touchdowns
 
Marvin Harrison    5
Steve Smith   18
Chris Chambers  23
Hines Ward   15
Antoinio Gates     10
Joe Jurevicius       64
Larry Fitzgerald  28
Joey Galloway     47
Chad Johnson     3
Keenan McCardell   44
 
 
There are the numbers. Start the discusion
 
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Re: Grading the 2005 cheats
« Reply #1 on: Jan 6th, 2006, 6:44pm »
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I don't want to get into great detail about the cheat sheet rankings for your draft.  But, I will say that I hardly EVER use the rankings that they give me.  Because it is so difficult to try and predict how a player will perform before the season even starts.  
 
Take Joe Jurevicious for example.  There is no way he would be on that list if D. Jax didn't get injured.  Also, Im sure that Deuce, Duce, Priest, R. Moss, J. Walker, J. Jones..etc.. were all in the top ten in their respective categories, until they all got injured.
 
Personally, its not really fair to compare the season ending stat leaders to draft cheat sheets. Simply because of injuries.  Then their backup ends up being a super stud ( Barber, Parker) and when they get healthy, the lose playing time.
 
Yea, some may be closer than others.  But, that is usually luck...which just happens to be discussed on another thread
 
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Re: Grading the 2005 cheats
« Reply #2 on: Jan 7th, 2006, 1:18am »
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Cool analysis SteelKings, I think everyone kind of blew it this season on the rankings for certain players in particular.  I know I had Joe Jurevicius ranked in the 80's, but like Oakland pointed out, the Jackson injury really affected the disparity between projection and reality.
 
Also, everybody really tempered their projections for players like Carson Palmer and Eli Manning, and conversely, players like Kevin Jones and Randy Moss were very unpleasant surprises.
 
I still think consensus rankings are very useful,  because to the extent that you can use them in comparison to your own personal rankings, you can identify value players in the later rounds of your draft.
 
For example, you could have picked up Santana Moss in like the 8th-9th round of most drafts, even if you were personally high on him in preseason.   The consensus rankings (and average draft data, which is probably even better for this purpose) would suggest that you shouldn't have wasted a high pick on Moss.
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