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Re: The San Antonio or Los Angeles Saints
« Reply #7 on: Jul 5th, 2005, 10:55pm » |
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Right now "LA", not "L.A.", is holding on to their Saints... From "The REAL Feed":
Louisiana meets payment deadline to keep Saints
ESPN: NFL (05.07.2005 13:23)
State makes team payment with borrowed money by Associated PressNEW ORLEANS -- The state handed the New Orleans Saints a check for $12,415,267.53 Tuesday, its annual multimillion dollar payment to keep the team in Louisiana, according to Louisiana Superdome official Bill Curl. Under a 10-year...
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Re: The San Antonio or Los Angeles Saints
« Reply #12 on: Sep 7th, 2005, 7:55pm » |
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on Sep 7th, 2005, 7:03pm, StegRock wrote:I can't find much in print that claims this, but is owner Tom Benson really at this time considering moving the Saints? I seem to be hearing this prevalently on the airwaves and televisions. Does anybody have the inside track on this? Is this guy really this big of a (capitalist/capitalizing) asshole? I just can't believe it. On "the Gridiron Newsstand" I can only find this kind of rhetoric:
Saints set up in San Antonio
Team stress committment to New Orleans; site of home games undetermined
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Ultimately, Benson got fucked in this situation. He is in a no win situation. He loses in the long term and short term. He can stay in Baton Rouge for this season, but who the hell in that area has any extra money for football tickets? Luxury boxes? But he would seem to be the "good guy" and could be a rallying point for every one. (OR, everyone could ignore the Saints). Or, he can play in San Antonio. Seems like a reasonable solution since thee accomidations in Baton Rouge are not too good, especially factoring in the evacuees. Problem is San Antonio has a crap stadium too. No big time luxury boxes. Either way, the Saints ain't gonna be in a good situation this year.
Now, look at long term. It is no secret Benson wanted to move the team. Now if he moves the team he is an "asshole" for abandoning New Orleans. If he stays, he is in the same situation next year with no New Orleans stadium. I am pretty confident that a new stadium is NOT going to be a priority for New Orleans..... so what is an owner to do? He probably should just move to LA at the end of this year........ Either way, Benson is a bad guy.
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Re: The San Antonio or Los Angeles Saints
« Reply #13 on: Sep 7th, 2005, 8:00pm » |
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on Sep 7th, 2005, 7:55pm, DirkDiggler wrote:Ultimately, Benson got fucked in this situation. He is in a no win situation. He loses in the long term and short term. He can stay in Baton Rouge for this season, but who the hell in that area has any extra money for football tickets? Luxury boxes? But he would seem to be the "good guy" and could be a rallying point for every one. (OR, everyone could ignore the Saints). Or, he can play in San Antonio. Seems like a reasonable solution since thee accomidations in Baton Rouge are not too good, especially factoring in the evacuees. Problem is San Antonio has a crap stadium too. No big time luxury boxes. Either way, the Saints ain't gonna be in a good situation this year.
Now, look at long term. It is no secret Benson wanted to move the team. Now if he moves the team he is an "asshole" for abandoning New Orleans. If he stays, he is in the same situation next year with no New Orleans stadium. I am pretty confident that a new stadium is NOT going to be a priority for New Orleans..... so what is an owner to do? He probably should just move to LA at the end of this year........ Either way, Benson is a bad guy. |
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Dude, cry me a river... A guy that rich never gets fucked!
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Re: The San Antonio or Los Angeles Saints
« Reply #15 on: Oct 17th, 2005, 11:19pm » |
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on Oct 17th, 2005, 8:47pm, StegRock wrote:From "The REAL Feed":
San Antonio mayor eyes Saints for 2006 season
SI.com: NFL (17.10.2005 19:40)
San Antonio's mayor's taking advantage of this situation just seems so scum-baggy to me... This is capitalism, the deification of money,  both at its worst and at its best,... which is horrifying  ...  to think about. This is what capitalism has to offer humanity...  |
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It makes NO sense for the Saints to go back to New Orleans. Fact is that that this thread discussing this was started WAY before the hurricane. It was a possibility back in May this was going to happen. Why should the fact a hurricane make them stay? Fact is New Orleans is going to be smaller in population because many (smart) residents are NOT going to return.
Katrina sucked! It was a horrible disaster. So the loss of a football team is the least of the city of New Orleans problems. The Saints were a problem to the state of LA. before the hurricane. They could not afford the payments.
If the Saints don't go to San Antonio, then L.A. bound they are.
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Re: The San Antonio or Los Angeles Saints
« Reply #16 on: Oct 19th, 2005, 5:29pm » |
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You may be right in fact, DD,... BUT, in fact, you are not right...
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Anyway, from "The REAL Feed":
New Orleans mayor rips Saints owner (AP) (and, as well, he should)
Yahoo! News: Democratic Party (19.10.2005 16:36)
Mayor Ray Nagin disparaged Saints owner Tom Benson on Wednesday for working with San Antonio officials to permanently keep the NFL team in Texas. The mayor's comments came after the departures of two top Saints executives who were supportive of keeping the Saints in Louisiana. Nagin is concerned...
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Re: The San Antonio or Los Angeles Saints
« Reply #22 on: Mar 5th, 2006, 4:00am » |
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Well, the latest,... from "The REAL Feed":
Season ticket sales for Saints going 'awesome
ESPN: NFL (03.03.2006 12:28)
Without the team running a single advertisement, renewals for New Orleans Saints season tickets are nearly four times what they were a year ago.
Doesn't look like such a potentially bad economic move after all, huh, DD???
I'm just happy that, however it came to be, the "right" thing looks like it's going to be done... The irony is that Katrina may have ended up saving the Saints from moving out of New Orleans in the long run, which seemed inevitable going into last season.
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Re: The San Antonio or Los Angeles Saints
« Reply #23 on: Mar 5th, 2006, 8:30am » |
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on Mar 5th, 2006, 4:00am, StegRock wrote:Well, the latest,... from "The REAL Feed":
Season ticket sales for Saints going 'awesome
ESPN: NFL (03.03.2006 12:28)
Without the team running a single advertisement, renewals for New Orleans Saints season tickets are nearly four times what they were a year ago.
Doesn't look like such a potentially bad economic move after all, huh, DD???
I'm just happy that, however it came to be, the "right" thing looks like it's going to be done... The irony is that Katrina may have ended up saving the Saints from moving out of New Orleans in the long run, which seemed inevitable going into last season. |
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Increased season ticket sales at this point in time are not that big a deal. Hell, the sales are increased yes. BUt does it say how many people did not renew their tickets? The article even states that the ticket sales are high because so many people have credits from last year..... what will happen next year when those credits are gone??
As a business owner who would have a monopoly on a business, would you rather be in the second largest market in the nationor be in a city who could barely support your business before a hurricane and whose polulation will probably decrease by more than half?
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Re: The San Antonio or Los Angeles Saints
« Reply #24 on: Mar 5th, 2006, 11:40pm » |
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As a human being qua business owner, you're right...
As a human being qua human being,... I stay in New Orleans!
My being qua human is prior to and more important to me than my being qua business owner... Of course, I am not business owner, Tom Benson, owner of an NFL franchise. I am human being, Steve Stegeman, who happens to run a little fantasy football web site (with long-term hopes). 
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and I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that that's "the plan"... 
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