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Re: Jumping the Shark
« Reply #3 on: Jun 6th, 2005, 8:19pm » |
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on Jun 6th, 2005, 2:35pm, Philly wrote:| I certainly wasn't impressed whenever I saw him. |
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Then, you did not see him play often either because you did not have the opportunity to see the games or highlights or because he wasn't getting adequate playing time, which was certainly the case in both Oakland and Seattle. He looked tremendous in that Monday night game. Did you not catch  that game?
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Re: Jumping the Shark
« Reply #5 on: Jun 7th, 2005, 11:59am » |
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on Jun 7th, 2005, 10:02am, Philly wrote:| I saw the Week 8 game against Carolina where he did nothing. I saw the Week 12 game against Buffalo where he was ineffective. I saw the Week 13 game against Dallas where he looked good. I saw the Week 14 game against Minnesota where he looked OK. And, finally, I watched the Wild Card game where he had no catches in their loss. |
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As I have been arguing all along, that wasn't because of him. When he isn't on the field (like in the playoff game THOSE dumb-asses LOST), you can't totally blame him, especially when, when he was thrown some bones, he made the most of them. The bottom line is nobody wants to give the old guy a decent chance because of concerns for the future. They want/think they need to invest their time in their young guys. Jerry does not bring with him much of a future. That's how his value has deteriorated over and above anything else. He still has great hands,... blah, blah, blah. I argued this more thoroughly in my Broncos FF-specific team report.
Quote:| So, overall, I was underimpressed. He had one nice game (in a defenseless match on Monday night) that I saw compared to a number of poor games. |
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That's simply not true. He had a very solid game against Miami,... just a little known for a solid secondary! I've detailed this stuff in my Broncos FF-specific team report.
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Re: Jumping the Shark
« Reply #6 on: Jun 7th, 2005, 12:45pm » |
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Meaning no disrespect to the greatest receiver ever, I think Philly is correct, and it is a fairly obvious call. Rice is done. Although, it's really hard to root against a guy like him, there is no need to consider him for fantasy purposes.
Steg, I think you are right in that, if Rice was allowed to take a more featured role, he actually might be surprisingly productive. That seems really unlikely though.
If Rod Smith loses production to anyone this season, it will be to Darius Watts.
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Re: Jumping the Shark
« Reply #7 on: Jun 7th, 2005, 4:30pm » |
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on Jun 7th, 2005, 11:59am, StegRock wrote:| That's simply not true. He had a very solid game against Miami,... just a little known for a solid secondary! I've detailed this stuff in my Broncos FF-specific team report. |
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Please go back and re-read my quote that you posted. It simply IS true because I didn't see his game against Miami. Therefore, I cannot judge his effort. I don't know if his yards were slop yards or not. I'm only judging him on the games that I saw - which I very specifically detailed above and very specifically did not mention Miami.
And, regarding his lack of use... there is a reason for that, Steg. It's not like Mike Holmgren is a football greenhorn who can't see the value of a player. He wasn't playing because he couldn't help the team as much as Darrell Jackson, Koren Robinson, and Bobby Engram... and that is saying a LOT considering their collective issues.
I agree with JYJ that Watts should step up some more this year and bite into the production of Rod Smith. I predicted that Ashley Lelie would be the #1 FF guy for the Broncs last year and he and Smith had very similar numbers. This year it will likely be (1) Lelie, (2) Smith, (3) Watts, (4) Luke or Rice.
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